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Can anyone help please with Parish records, Census, Court records or Family of:-
Thomas Chilton born c1809
Convicted in the Salop Assizes 21 March 1835 for Highway Robbery age 26.
Occupation Farm Labourer & Sweep.
Usual place (?residence) Much Wenlock.
Prison ?
Hulk ?
Any help at all is greatly appreciated,
EddieW :)
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Hi EddieW, :)
Nearest I can find is from the Munslow par registers,
01 Jun 1806 Thomas Millichope & Hester, base children of Sarah Chilton [Clinton erased]. :o
could be he adopted his mothers name,
Best wishes,
Pete.
ps my ggg grandfather on the 51 census Cound, Shropshire had a Millichope as a neighbour, :)
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Thanks Pete
I will see if i can find some more info on him.
Lots of info about them when they get to Australia but their past always seems a mystery.
There is a family in the IGI in Little Wenlock that fits the dates but it is only a maybe until i find a deffinate link.
Cheers
EddieW :)
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Hi Eddie
Try the Shropshire Archives http://www.shropshire.gov.uk/archives.nsf
The staff are extremely helpful, and do respond quickly to email and telephone enquiries.
Or..... I can do look ups at the Archives but at the moment have a huge list to do, and I won't be able to get there until next week. If you don't mind the wait then I can look up the information for you ;)
Jan
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Hi Jan
Thanks for the reply and kind offer.
I have just tried the site you mentioned and downloaded the parish records but only got a list of towns and records they have and could not open the actual record itself.
If Thomas Chilton was actually from Much Wenlock his birth or christening should be in Much Wenlock CB 1755-1812 (92-112).
I could not find any Assizes records or Convict records, maybe they don't have those.
I have found that Patience is a virtue in Genealogy, so if you have time one day you are in there even next month that will be great.
Regards
EddieW :)
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Hi EddieW
The Shropshire Archives do have Assizes/Convict records of sorts (I can't remember what they called them now!!!!) - I only know this because I've got to do a similar look up for another Rootschat member.
I have added your request to my list, so please bear with me and watch this space..............
Jan :)
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Hello Eddie
Are you sitting down? I hope so because I went to the Shropshire Arichves today and found this about your Thomas Chilton:
Shropshire Lent Assizes, March 21st 1835
Calendar of the Criminal Prisoners
1. Thomas Chilton, aged 23 a Chimney Sweep
2. George Taylor, aged 24, a Labourer Town and Liberties of Wenlock
"Robbing John Evans on the night of 31st July 1834 on the highway of the parish of Much Wenlock of about nine shillings ??? committed on 24th August 1834 by Edward Talbot, Clerk. Re-committed 18th October 184 by William Bates, Clerk
Judgement of Death Recorded"
He is also listed under "Convicts Under Sentence" with George. Both Judgement of Death Recorded.
What do you think of that then?!!!!!
Jan
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Thanks Jan thats fantastic and very much appreciated ;D.
His records from Tasmania just say Highway Robbery.
It seems a bit extreme to get the death sentence for nine shillings even in those days but maybe it was with violence or a weapon. Most sentences seem to be commuted to life and transportation to the Colonies.
Also on the records was Usual Place, Much Wenlock but that could be just were he was living and not were he was born as i first thought.
This has narrowed his birth date down a bit more but still no parents. Sometimes there were letters sent to the courts for compasion so i may have to look for something like that.
I have two Thomas Chilton's around the time from the IGI, not that the IGI is perfect.
Thomas Chilton chr 21 Jul 1811 Dawley Magna and Thomas Chilton chr 27 Dec 1812 Preston-On-The-Weald but the search goes on.
If you have any suggestions how i might find a definite link to his parents please let me know.
Regards
EddieW
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hi Eddie
I know my Thomas Chilton isnt the same as yours but I was wondering if you had ever come across this one in your travells?
Thomas Chilton b 9 Jun 1804 Saint Mary, Shrewsbury, Shropshire
married Ellen ?
Parents William and Mary
Would love to know more if you have come across them.
Sounds like you've hit a jackpot with your Thomas - very interesting reading.
Thanks
Good luck with your research.
all the best
Marian
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Hi Marian
Sorry i don't have anything on the Thomas Chilton you are looking for , he seems to be the one in the IGI but there is no marriage for either him or his father.
Have you tried the 1841 census, Thomas b1804 should be in that. Also the LDS Family history centre should have a film for St Mary .
Good luck.
EddieW
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thanks Eddie
Ill keep looking.
Happy Hunting
all the best
Marian
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Hi Marian,
Any help,
The register for the p'ish of Tong begininge the 19th of may ann. domin. 1629.
Volume 1.
27 Oct 1782 Elizabeth, d. of William & Ann Chilton bap.
25 Apr 1783 John, s. of William and Ann Chilton bur.
The names of Children baptized at Withington begynning in the year of our Lord one thousand fybe hundred and nynetie one.
18 Apr 1762 Samuel, s. of William and Mary Chilton bap.
The Parish Register of Wrockwardine.
25 Nov 1804 William Chilton & Charlot Ellis.
The Register Boohe of Christenings Weddings and Bnrials for the P'ish of Wroxeter continued Anna B'ni 1613.
26 Sep 1708 William, s. of John Chilton, day labourer & pauper, & Martha bap.
11 Jan 1713 William Chilton, of Uckington, in p. Atcham, yeoman bur.
05 Jul 1741 William, s. of William & Ann Chilton, born 29 Jun 1741 bap.
18 Mar 1743 Ann, d. of William & Ann Chilton, born 08 Mar 1743 bap.
06 Jan 1747 Martha, d. of William & Ann Chilton, b. [---] bap.
06 Mar 1749 William Chilton bur.
27 Aug 1775 William, s. of John & Elizabeth Chilton.
24 Nov 1811 Elisha, illegitimate s. of William Chilton & Ann Evans, b. 12 Nov 1811.
Edm: Dana, Vicar.
21 May 1793 William Walker, p. St. Peter in the City of Hereford, & Mary Fox, lic. Wit: Mary Chilton, Jno. Fox.
18 Sep 1808 John Smith & Elizabeth Chilton. Wit: William Chilton, Elizabeth Williams.
Shropshire: Shrewsbury - St. Mary Parish Registers, Lichfield Diocese
Errata.
28 Jun 1665 Susanna, d. of William Chilton.
02 Jul 1780 William, s. of John Chilton & Mary, bap.
17 May 1795 William, s. of William Chilton & Mary, bap.
25 Apr 1802 William, s. of Wm. Chilton & Mary; ibid; Shoemaker; born 30 Dec 1801.
08 Jul 1804 Thomas, s. of William Chilton & Mary; Castle foregate; Shoemaker; 09 Jun 1803
25 Sep 1808 Edward Evans William & Mary Chilton Cordwainer Cast. foreg. 04 Aug 1805
23 Nov 1795 William Davis & Anne Hammonds. Wit: John Chilton.
The Register of Tibberton
This Register-Book for Tibberton bought in the near of our Kord 1719, by Thomas Podmore?? Chapel-Warden: Anno Dom: 1719.
27 Jul 1761 No. 4. Richard Hall of this p., tow dresser, & Jane Jones of this parish, sp. mar.
By Geo. Greaves, C.
Wit: John Bennett, William Chilton.
27 Jul 1761 No. 5. William Chilton of this p., weaver, & Mary Eaton, sp., of this p. mar.
By Geo. Greaves, Curate.
Wit: John Bennett, Richard Hall.
Shropshire: Leighton, Atcham - Parish Registers, Lichfield Diocese
A Register Book for the Parish of Leighton.
15 Jan 1685 William, s. of Daniell & Mary Chilton bap.
28 Feb 1738 William Chilton bur.
22 Jul 1712 Margaret, w. of William Chilton, of Uckington Aff. d'd bur.
Shropshire: Shrewsbury - St. Chad Parish Registers, Lichfield Diocese
The Parish Registers of St. Chad's, Shremsbury.
Volume 1.
17 Oct 1676 William Chilton, taylor bur.
20 May 1680 William Wilding & Anne Chilton mar.
01 Mar 1781 Chilton, William, s. of John & Mary bur.
Shropshire: Lichfield - Wills and Administrations, 1516-1652
Lichfield Wills and Administrations Registered in The Consistory Court of The Bishop of Lichfield and Coventry. 1516 to 1652
Series 1.-1516-1526
1595 Chilton, William, ad. 150
Give us a shout if you want some more,
Best wishes.
Pete.
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Hi Pete
The trial of Thomas Chilton shows that i had his birth year too early. It now appears to be 1812.
Do you have anything on a Thomas Chilton around Little or Much Wenlock close to that year.
Thanks
EddieW :)
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wow - thanks Pete
Lots for me to look into (which I wont do tonight - been up since 5am!) I shall look into it all when Im more awake and I will get back to you then
Thanks very much - well appreciated
speak soon
all the best
Marian
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Hi Marian and eddieW, :)
No problem Marian, got me out of cutting the grass,It seems the both of you are searching for Thomas, although different ones, Sorry what I failed to mention was they were all the Thomases listed in the Litchfield diocese, here are the other two
Hereford diocese
Shropshire: Sibdon Carwood, Hopton Castle, More, Clunbury - Parish Registers, Hereford Diocese
The Register Booke of the P'she of Sibdon, Anno Domini, 1582.
29 Aug 1778 Thomas, s. of Edward Chilton and Margt ??
Chirburn Darish Begisters.
03 Jul 1657 Thomas, f. Thomae et Annae Chilton bap.
16 Jul 1699 Thomas Chilton, yeoman sep.
22 May 1727 Thomas, f. Samuel et Sarae Chilton bap.
27 Aug 1728 Thomas Chilton sep.
01 Dec 1728 Thomas Chilton sep.
26 Jan 1728 Thomas, f. Edwardi et Elianorae Chilton bap.
17 Apr 1729 Thomas Chilton sep.
08 Jul 1741 Thomas Perkin & Mary Chilton mar.
24 Apr 1743 Thomas Olivers & Jane Chilton mar.
30 Apr 1790 Thomas, s. of Mary Chilton, pau. bap.
21 Sep 1790 Thomas Chilton, inft., pau. bur.
Shropshire: Worthen - Parish Registers, Hereford Diocese
17 Dec 1770 John Thomas & Elizth. Chilton. By Saml. Sneade, Clerk. Wit: Samuel Phipps, Richd. Chilton.
Munslow Parish Registers.
01 Jun 1806 Thomas Millichope & Hester, base children of Sarah Chilton [Clinton erased].
Willey Parish Registers.
25 Mar 1683 Thomas, s. of John Chilton & Joan.
30 Aug 1761 Thomas, s. of Sam: Chilton, furnaceman, & Ann.
05 Jul 1683 Thomas, the son of Chilton [sic].
26 Oct 1684 Thomas Chilton.
St Asaph diocese
Shropshire: More - Parish Registers, 1569-1812
Che Register Booke of the P'she of More, Anno Domini, -
Volume 1.
29 Aug 1778 Thomas, s. of Edward Chilton and Margt. bap.
Thats the lot folks, as you can see if I enter Thomas Chilton, the discs will give every entry with a Thomas and a Chilton mentioned, I have included these for you to make your mind up, There are a lot more Chiltons here,
Sorry Eddie, no sign of your Thomas, ???
Best wishes.
Pete :)
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Hi Eddie
Usual Place, Much Wenlock but that could be just were he was living and not were he was born as i first thought.
I can check out Much/Little Wenlock parish regisers for Thomas's baptism, at least if it isn't there then you can definitely rule it out!!
Did he marry in Tazmania? Just wondering whether the certificate would give father's name.
Jan
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Thanks for the info Pete
You never know once i find the Thomas i am looking for some of the Chilton's you listed may be his relations.
Cheers
EddieW :)
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hi Pete
Finally got around to looking through all the stuff you sent through about William and Mary Chilton.
Brilliant help - thank you.
on this one - what does the " ibid;" mean???
25 Apr 1802 William, s. of Wm. Chilton & Mary; ibid; Shoemaker; born 30 Dec 1801.
I noticed this was the only marriage for a William and a Mary - I think its too early to be mine - but will keep an open mind...
27 Jul 1761 No. 5. William Chilton of this p., weaver, & Mary Eaton, sp., of this p. mar.
By Geo. Greaves, Curate.
You dont happen to have any marriages for the following do you please...
Thomas Chilton and Ellen
Thomas born 1803 Shrewsbury
Ellen born abt 1808 Limerick Ireland
and the two eldest children were born in Ceylon!!!!
any help would be great
thanks for everything .
all the best
Marian
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Hi Marian :),
Sorry I have not got a clue what it means ???, these records make for fasinating reading, they have been transcribed with no atempt to correct the spelling or grammer, I think I only posted you the Litchfield diocese, for your William, I will have a look on the others two, St Asaph and Hereford. Unfortunatly I only come up to ab 1815, so I would not have this marriage, I did try to find him on the 51 census, no luck, will keep trying though, if I find anything I will post you,
Best wishes.
Pete :).
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:D
hi again Pete
Thanks anyway - you've been a great help. I agree some of the reading on the census' are brilliant reading - makes me laugh sometimes making others in the room look at me strangely!!!!
happy hunting
all the best
Marian
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Hi Jan
If you can check Little & Much Wenlock parish registers when you have time that will be great.
Pete has posted a fairly comprehensive list of Chilton's and it doesn't seem like there is one there at that time. There is only one in the IGI at Little Wenlock but that is in 1808 so if you can't find any more i will start looking further out.
He did get married in Tasmania but there are no parents listed on any of his records in Australia.
Regards
EddieW :)
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Hi Eddie,
Some years since your post re: Thomas Chilton, so I assume you now know he was transported to Tasmania on the prison ship Bardaster in 1835 . . he married Martha HENRY in 1844 . . died (possibly drowned) in 1853. His daughter (Eliza) Mary married my great-grandfather, Louis Barnett.
Ross
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Hi Ross
You must have a different Thomas Chilton to ours
Our Thomas Chilton did marry Martha Henry in 1844 but he did not die in 1853 nor did he drown
His daughter Eliza Mary did not marry Louis Barnett
Eddie
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http://search.shropshirehistory.org.uk/collections/search/?q=Thomas+Chilton+Wenlock&cb_submit=Search
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Okay Eddie,
According to archives here in Melbourne, "Chilton, Mary Elizh (sic)", (sometimes shown as "Mary Elizabeth Chilton") (born in Tasmania in or about 1860) married my great-grandfather Louis A. Barnett in 1891.
You are now saying that this Mary Elizabeth Chilton is NOT the daughter of Thomas Chilton, born 1812, who was transported to Tasmania on the convict ship Bardaster in 1835.
Interesting. Your opinion runs contrary to my research.
Ross
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As I stated before, you must have a different Thomas Chilton and family than ours
Thomas Chilton and Martha Henry's child was Eliza Mary (not Mary Elizh) born in 1850 not 1860 and married in 1868 as Elizabeth
Eliza being only 18 when she married needed permission of her guardian Catherine Horan a relation of her mother
Eliza did not marry again as her husband did not die until 1913 and she died in 1931
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Hi, I'm trying to find info on Elizabeth Chilton and her husband Thomas Smith (particularly Thomas) if you could please share anything you have with me? Thanks in advance!!
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Hi, I'm trying to find info on Elizabeth Chilton and her husband Thomas Smith (particularly Thomas) if you could please share anything you have with me? Thanks in advance!!
you give very little to go on, no dates etc. Were they married in shropshire, or just born there?
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For Marian (Maz1):
I have plenty of info on Thomas Chilton b1804. He is my 3x ggrandfather. He joined the 61st Regiment of Foot in 1822 and served until 1844. Married Ellen Connell in Limerick Ireland in Mar 1825 and served much of his career in Sri Lanka. Died 5 Sep 1877 in Lichfield, Staffs. I can provide you with copies of his military record.
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hi Eddie
I know my Thomas Chilton isnt the same as yours but I was wondering if you had ever come across this one in your travells?
Thomas Chilton b 9 Jun 1804 Saint Mary, Shrewsbury, Shropshire
married Ellen ?
Parents William and Mary
Would love to know more if you have come across them.
Sounds like you've hit a jackpot with your Thomas - very interesting reading.
Thanks
Good luck with your research.
all the best
Marian
I have plenty of info on Thomas Chilton b1804. He is my 3x ggrandfather. He joined the 61st Regiment of Foot in 1822 and served until 1844. Married Ellen Connell in Limerick Ireland in Mar 1825 and served much of his career in Sri Lanka. Died 5 Sep 1877 in Lichfield, Staffs. I can provide you with copies of his military record.