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Title: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: johnpeel on Saturday 20 May 06 08:41 BST (UK)
Anyone  have any records/photos of the above school which was part of the SHAFTESBURY HOMES.

I was one such pupil and there must be many around that served in the services and are able to exchange info etc.

Regards johnpeel 
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: Reyz on Monday 22 May 06 11:38 BST (UK)
Hi John

You could try the Surrey History Centre in Woking

http://www.surreycc.gov.uk/surreyhistoryservice/

You are able to search on-line for references of the records etc they hold there.
I am not sure if you would be able to access individuals names etc if they were in Care.  However,  photos may be a possibility.

Good luck
Reyz

Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: johnpeel on Monday 22 May 06 19:37 BST (UK)
Hi Reyz

Many thanks for the info of where to follow up my queries.

Regards Johnpeel
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: srobinson on Sunday 05 October 08 06:37 BST (UK)
Hi John

I was just searching for information on this school. I was going through my dad's photos and found his leaving certificate. He left Bisley I think in 1942 so you two would have overlapped. His name was Graham Roland Robinson and I believe one or several of his brothers were there with him.

Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: johnpeeler on Sunday 05 October 08 10:40 BST (UK)
Hi?????

Many thanks for your reply and it is quite surprising that very few ex pupils are able to access the web to put forward their experiences and it is nice to hear from one of the family as there could be so much to write about.

I have a couple of photos that include me in the class of the "Ironsides" that were one of the houses of the senior part of the establishment and I am also aware that are two films of the "Empire Day " celebrations that were held  1937 and 1938 but it is very expensive to enable one to get access to them.

Anyway it is very encouraging that at least I have had a reply and I suppose like me a lot of the boys eventually ended up in the forces but the experiences there stood us well in those years and must say that looking back the education we received was top class.

If you are interested further do not hesitate to reply.

Regards John


Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: srobinson on Monday 06 October 08 06:57 BST (UK)
Hi John

I'm so delighted to hear from you! This is wonderful. I would love to talk to you, or see anything you might have of the school. I would love to get a hold of the film (how would one find that?).

I only have photos of my dad from when he was in the services (he joined the Royal Marines after Bisley). After the war he joined the Merchant Marines, and that took him to Canada (where he 0-90-=0-09ghjemigrated). He passed away in 1995, and I only have this certificate to tell me anything about his school experience.  I'm sure even if he was still with us, he might never have gotten onto the internet.

Oh I just checked. He joined in 1937 and left in 1941. So you would have overlapped for sure.

It is interesting it was an orphanage. In my dad's case I think he went there because his father died young and left his mother with 8 kids to raise. Thank god he was able to get a good education.  I'm delighted to learn you thought highly of it.

I'd write you a personal message but can't figure out how yet.

Sandra



Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: johnpeeler on Monday 06 October 08 10:11 BST (UK)
Hi Sandra,

Nice to hear from you and will keep you posted but at the moment I am a little busy as I seem to have rather a full life.

Yes it does seem that our paths have crossed and although it is many years ago I would like to think that I do recall the name but perhaps I am being optimistic . Anyway if you have any details of his house name that would certainly be a help and I have a couple of pics that I am able to send over.  Pity that we did not keep any records but certain things are imprinted on ones mind. I would like to think that he was our class leader but that might be too much of a coincidence as I do vaguely the name.

I also went down the same path in as much that I went into the Fleet Air Arm and went out to the far east with the British Pacific Fleet and on the return journey I met another lad from the school so there were a few connections along the way.

I am writing my life up for my family and will send you a copy of my period there if you are interested as it gives a little insight of what we were doing as young lads.

Nice to hear from you and will be in touch.

Regards John (ps what is your area )
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: srobinson on Monday 06 October 08 16:12 BST (UK)
Hi John

I feel very lucky to have run into you. You have to love the internet. I would absolutely love to read what you write.

I will check with my dad's sister to see if she might know the house name. I will also look through his files again for any clues.

What I can tell from the leaving certificate is that it says Table Prefect, form attained was VIA, and he was no. 28 out of 30 boys (funny that sounds low because he was so smart). It also says 1st Dorm XI for football, 1st Dorm XI for cicket, field games very good, and swimming 25 yards. Not into scouts or band. I know he was big into running and read books all the time (would tell me now he'd carry one in his shirt everywhere he went).

We live in Vancouver Canada. Will be going to England in March. Where abouts do you live? Maybe we could chat in person!

Sandra
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: johnpeeler on Monday 06 October 08 21:59 BST (UK)
Hi Sandra.

My that is along way away and as for the internet it is an ever open book at least it is for me and I must say that I  and use it to its full extent or at least I think I do as  I have used it to search my family tree and have done very well.

I also love reading books and it is a standing joke that I can never pass a book or newspaper and that is probably from my school; days as we all had a lot of opportunities to read in the well stocked libraries both in the dormitories and the recreation room where we congregated every Saturday and Sunday evening. Our highlight of the week was to try and get a peek at the film which would arrive midweek one of those big film cans for showing in the recreation Saturday   and anyone who could find out what would be  in advance  was a hero.

The picture that I have attached is that of the "Ironsde" House and it would be a coincidence if your dad was on it but it is difficult I know to pick out faces after all these years but I am no. ten from the left and the army officer is Lt.Col Weigall inspecting us about  on Empire Day1938.

The othe pic is of the senior school , a very old print I should think about early 1900's. but there are other ones that can be found on the web.I will send you an edited picture of the "Ironside" Empire Day as it needs cropping.


Many years ago I accidently met a lady in France who had bougjht the school cottage hospital in 1952  and she enquired about various numbers scratched on the outside walls and I was able to tell her that they were the numbers of the boys that were in the hospital and I told her that I had had ckicken pox in her house. She was quite intrigued as she always wondered what they were on there for.


We live in Chelmsford the county town of Essex about 30 miles east of London and it would be a pleasure to be able to meet up  when you visit the UK next March and will be looking forward it very much.

Well Sandra must close now and be in touch and looking forward to any further information that you might have

Regards John







 
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: srobinson on Tuesday 07 October 08 06:41 BST (UK)
Hi John

I've been unable to view the attachment. Did you attach it or am I doing something wrong? I was so excited to have a look and then so frustrated I wasn't able to figure it out.  I know if my dad were in one of your pictures I could pick him out in a heartbeat (his family all look so distinctive and similar to one another- easy to spot).

That is a great story about the film and the library. That must be where my dad too got his love for books. Growing up we had TONS of them and he was very into encyclopedias and just self-learning. He didnt have a n opportunity to go to university of course, but he was one of hte smartest people I have known. It sounds like it was a terrific environment to grow up in.

Do you know about how many boys would have been in your graduating class?

My dad talked a lot about the war. I think for him going into the service was a fantastic adventure, a chance to see the world that he otherwise would not have been able to. We grew up with many many stories of the war- both of what it was like to be a kid during the raids and bombings, and also being in the Marines (he served on a landing craft). Many of his family were in the service, but he was the only one to choose the marines and went by himself. He was like that. (one funny story is he was in Australia and walking on the beach and who does he run into? one of his brothers!).  He never told me about any medals (he wasn't interested in them) and only when he passed away, I contacted the right office and they mailed me three of them (I can't recall the names offhand but one is the Burma star). That was a wonderful gift. I would have loved him to see them. 

I looked up where you live in google. It looks close to the sea. My dad lived in Surrey but not sure where and I would like to visit his house when I'm there (my aunt has the address and they took a recent picture of it a few years back). And we will also visit his family who still live in Stevenage, Herts. I went there once before but it was 30 years ago.

We should make plans to meet.

Sandra

PS: You sound MUCH younger than you must be!!




Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: ronbut on Monday 30 March 09 15:07 BST (UK)
I was at Bisley juniors about 1940/41?, the Headmasters name was Read. I remember the air raid shelter was under the Shoemakers workshop. Some of my friends were Stewert,Thompson(came from Hong Kong), Savage. We marched to the Senior School on thursday evenings for the film shows.
Anyone out there remember any of this.
Ron.
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: johnpeeler on Tuesday 31 March 09 12:52 BST (UK)
Hi Ron,

I was at  Junior school in 1937 and then went up to seniors IRONSIDES 200A  c. 1938 leaving in 1941. and then went into FAA as air mechanic like wise other boys who went into the various services.

I have just contacted a Chobby Wells 1938 Mersea Island  who had two elder brothers in the same seniors and had a good couple of hours reminiscing. His daughter sent me further photos of the time of the band etc. a "Pop Hope. if you remember
him. Also have contact with a John Larner 1940 who lives in Gravesend.

With are a few around now we all have a bit of time on our hands now to to the searching .

Regards John.

 
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: ronbut on Friday 03 April 09 10:37 BST (UK)
Hi John,
Thanks for your reply although I do not recognize any of the names its interesting to see there are some of us out there. Yes I too went into the forces, I didn,t wait for National Service so signed on for 5 years in the Army in 1950, part of that time i was posted to Korea. I have always felt that the rigid way the School was run was very good for us in later years, remember all the kit we were issued with and the parades on Saturday mornings(and the cup of Senner after). I seem to remember that I was in Trojon House, juniors of course.
During the end of the 2nd world war we were bombed out and I was sent to friends on Canvey Island, the strange thing was that the Headmaster there at my school was the brother of the Mr Read at Bisley.
Do you remember the Shoemaster at the juniors ?, he was the terror of us all, we used to hate it when the warnings went as we had to go into his workshop to go down the shelter.
All the best from Ron.
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: petert99 on Thursday 30 April 09 12:51 BST (UK)
I was at Bisley boys School 1952 - 1956. I now live in Australia I will be going to the UK next year. I would to know if the old school buildings are still there, and to look around.
regards
petert
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: johnpeeler on Thursday 30 April 09 15:01 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

I apologize for the reply as I have been  a bit busy lately but I think that it was knocked down in the 1950's but I can try and find some information but you could probably looked at Google Earth as there goog views.

I am given to understand that two of the houses outside of the entrance are still there so they probably show up.

I have some good pics of some shots for Empire Day 1937/1938 but I think this is a bit before your time but I can send over if you are interested.


Regards

John
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: petert99 on Monday 04 May 09 09:47 BST (UK)
Thank you John,
      Yes, I have looked on Google Earthand could not find it and so I asked the question. I will return and look round for old times and show my Australian wife. Thank you again. Regards petert
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: WilliamLornePaxton on Thursday 30 July 09 04:20 BST (UK)
Hi there,
my father went to Bisley (he passed away a week ago) and now I am doing research on his life. He must have been there around 1941. His name was William Lorne Paxton.

In those days I think he went by Lorne. After Bisley he went to Canada but spent most of his life in Southern California.

If any of you remember him, let me know!

Thanks,
Lorna Paxton
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: johnpeeler on Tuesday 04 August 09 17:53 BST (UK)
Hi Lorna,

I have just picked up your request and i was at the Bisley School 1936 -1941 and if you are able to send me further information and probably have two contacts who were there about the same time who might be able also help. I seem to think that the name Lorne rings a bell in those past times as they were many years ago.

I have some really good pics of the time that you might find interesting.

Regards John Constable
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: WilliamLornePaxton on Tuesday 04 August 09 17:58 BST (UK)
Hi there,
I know his best friend at Bisley was named Jack Johnson (how's that for a common name!!).

I am getting a jpeg of my dad when he was around 9 or 10 yrs old which I will post as soon as I have it.

Oh, we also have a book called When Dreams come true (Or something like that) that gives the history of the school

Thanks for your reply and I'll be back in touch with the photos.

Lorna
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: WilliamLornePaxton on Saturday 08 August 09 01:59 BST (UK)
Hi John,
here are a couple of photos of my dad- Lorne Paxton. In one of them he was probably 9 and the other we're guessing anywhere from 18-22.

He was born in 1931 in Canada to English parents. He was actually a canadian citizen and not long after bisley he returned to canada and joined the army and went to Korea.

Anyway, let me know if the photos ring a bell.

Many thanks,
Lorna Paxton
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: WilliamLornePaxton on Saturday 08 August 09 02:00 BST (UK)
forgot the images...
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: ancient brit on Friday 02 October 09 13:30 BST (UK)
Good day Ron. Just fell into this website, I was a Bisley Boy, and guess what, my name is/was George Savage, I left in 42 and went on to "Arborfield Boys School" 3years and then onto the Colours, were I spent 26 years, most of them good years, I hope Im the Savage you knew, My older brother was also at Bisley, was Senior Boy whist in the Junior School. Cheers.
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: johnpeeler on Monday 05 October 09 20:55 BST (UK)
Hi Ron????,

Thanks for the reply and have you any info on your House name as I was one of the "Ironsides"
I have some pics ,very good ones from that era and in touch with a "Chobby  Wells" who had two older other brothers.

In fact had seen him a couple of times as he lives in Mersea Island  in Essex and have had quite a few chats with him tis last year.

Anyway if you are interested I could send you a couple of  prints over.

John. 
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: p.johnston on Sunday 24 January 10 14:21 GMT (UK)
Hi there, my father was at Bisley boys school around that time, he said it was a tough school but the education was fantastic, they were even taught Latin & ancient Greek.
Now i have a photo of my dad in the army cadets camping out whilst attending Bisley. He said that in this photo he had hold of his best friend who was in-front of him, but i don't remember what his name was, or if he mentioned it.
I wonder if this is the same person you are talking about.
Oh my fathers name is / was Jack Johnston
If this photo is of any help to anyone, i will gladly post it on to you by email, there are 6 other boys in the photo.

My address is Moderator comment: e-mail address removed to prevent spamming and other abuse.  Please use the personal message system to exchange e-mail addresses.  Thank you
If you know who these boys are, it would be nice for me to put names to faces, & what they went on to do in their lives.
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: hmcmillan29 on Sunday 24 January 10 14:50 GMT (UK)


Hi All,

I have just stumbled over this topic and I was attracted to the name "Shaftesbury". 

My Great Great Grandfather was connected to the Shaftesbury Society.  He wasnt a pupil, so Im guessing he was staff.

Please excuse my ignorance, but I have no idea where he was based, or anything about what he did.  Maybe you would recognise his name.  I realise that he would have died before some of you were there, but as the saying goes....If you dont ask, you dont get!!

His name was Samuel Sharpe.  He was born in 1859 Bethnal Green and he died in 1937 in Streatham, London.  I believe that his wife also had connections too and her name was Minnie Sharpe. 

My Gran has a bible that was presented to him, (I think from Lord Shaftesbury, I will need to check to writing again in the bible).

What a fascinating post.  I will continue to read about your memories in the homes.

Many thanks
Hazel  :)
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: hmcmillan29 on Sunday 24 January 10 17:19 GMT (UK)


Hi John,

Thank you very much for the PM.  The info is amazing, thanks.

I must ask my Gran if she knows the role, whereabouts, timescale etc, of when my Great Great Grandfather was connected to the Shaftesbury Homes.

His wife Minnie died whilst working at one of the homes.  On her death certificate in 1920, she was stated as the "Wife of Samuel Sharpe, Official of the Shaftesbury Society, Superintendant of the Lads Rest".

I will continue to read your posts here and I will now try and seek some info on my ancestors times in the homes.

Thank you for your time.

Hazel
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: gerald.pntlworld.c on Wednesday 17 March 10 14:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Ron
I was at the juniors  from 1939-1942 i was a Trojan then i was transfered to the Shaftesbury House about three miles up a gravil road.
i remember the Headmaster Read. I think the master of the shoeshop was Winton. I remember going down to the airraid shelter quite a lot during the War.
I remember Thompson ( Douglas) and his brother Peter sadly no longer with us.
I am in touch with Douglas Thompson i ring him occasionly and he rings me.
I think the film shows were on a Wednesdays and if you punished for any reason you could not watch the film show, do you remember the Senna we used to have on a Saturdays after Breakfast When i was at the Shaftesbury House we used to march to the Juniors School for our lessons and on Sundays we marched to the Chapel which was next to the School we Marched behind the band.didnt you go to the Shaftesbury house i think you went there when you was about 12 years of age and you wore long trousers then.
I left the School in 1948.
gerald.

If there is anything else you want to know keep in touch.





Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: John58 on Wednesday 11 August 10 15:43 BST (UK)
My father Basil John Arthur Perry was at Bisley School in 1941 he would have been about 15-16.
He went on to enlist in the Army - Tank Regiment.

Does anyone know him or have any information / pictures?

Regards,


John58
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: Trojan on Sunday 12 September 10 03:15 BST (UK)
Hi Leslie Jones was at Bisley Juniors 1938-1941 & the Seniors at Shaftesbury House 1941-December 1944.
No 35 in Juniors & 200 in Seniors. Friends were Tony Brooks,(36) & Frank Bronley (20) in Juniors. I was in Trojans in Juniors & Ironsides in Seniors.   Hard to remember all the names, there was a Prefect Withers in Seniors, a Thomas (199) in Seniors.   A McSwan in Juniors. Housemaster Bill Tull Juniors, then a Mr Cole, (got sacked), then Mr Wenman (His daughter was killed crossing the road at the local Bisley School.  He left soon after. Teachers Miss Turner, Matron "Bluebottle", Charlie Rogers Room 3 Music), "Horsey"Paddock (Room 6 Mathematics), Mr Macey (Room 3a), Mr (Sarkey) Goodger (Room 5 History & Geography I think) , Sports Mr Masefield.
Headmaster Bertram Reid, Bandmaster ??, Tailoring Teacher? Shoemaking Teacher? (had a Glass Eye) Mr Russell Engineering.  Don Ryan (OLd Boy) I met in SIngapore 1949 in the Royal Signals).. Keen Brothers (Twins)
That's about all in the grey matter at the moment.  I have just turned 80 & trying to write my Bigraphy.
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: Trojan on Sunday 12 September 10 03:24 BST (UK)
Hi Lorna I was at Bisley, both Juniors & Seniors from 1938 to 1944, your Father's name rings a bell but I cannot place him yet. Do you know what Dormitory he was in in Juniors &/or Seniors?
Kind Regards,
Leslie Jones (35 & 200)
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: Trojan on Sunday 12 September 10 03:27 BST (UK)
Hello John, Your Father would have been in the Senior School at Shaftesbury House, when I first arrived in the Junior School, 3 miles away, in 1938.  The name rings a bell, but I may have met him at an old Boy's Reunion a few years later. Did he have a Brother at the school also? Kind regards, Leslie Jones Bisley 1938-1944
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: Trojan on Sunday 12 September 10 03:31 BST (UK)
Hi John, I lost Email contact with you (Through Friends Reunited) when my computer crashed. Not sure when you posted your last messaage on this site, but though I would let you know I am still about in New Zealand, having just turned 80 & trying to start my Autobiography again after a 6 year lapse.  Hope you get to read this. Leslie Jones.
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: Trojan on Sunday 12 September 10 03:36 BST (UK)
Hi Lorna, Would love to get a copy of the book, "When dreams come true" where did you get it, & can you confirm the Title & the Author. Would like a copy of your Dad's photo while he was at Bisley, it may jog my ancient memory.
Kind Regards,
Leslie Jones
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: streeturchin on Monday 20 December 10 11:17 GMT (UK)
there are a number of decent photographs on the frith sites, 1914 pictures of the main building, and of the junior school and many other shots, inc. bisley village
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: streeturchin on Monday 20 December 10 11:29 GMT (UK)
out of interest I was a boy at Bisley Boys School, in Shaftesbury rd. 1954-1959,
I remember marching to church/ chapel on Sundays, my brother was also there with me, I was caned so many times, 3 in front of the whole school that I became used to it.
I was also a boy that other boys liked, and two masters too, so I have happy memories of fighting them off, when I could.
Still I have been told that, that problem was rife at most boarding schools in england at that time!
However I still have happy memories, of adventures in the common, the tanks firing at night on the range, hunting snakes etc. in the bracken, scrumping the headmasters prize apples, for which I was caned, telling spooky stories in the dorm. at night, raiding parties from one dorm to another, the CV shout when masters were abound.
once the chapel was on fire, and we junior boys were beating the flames, dressed in our dressing gowns...also there would be fantastic fires on the common, after the fires we would find, frogs, etc burnt to a crisp.
I shall tell some other real stories if I have anyone interested, meanwhile ask any questions and I shall give a truthful answer.
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: gerald.pntlworld.c on Friday 18 February 11 15:22 GMT (UK)
Hi John
I was a pupil at bisley boys school from 1939-1948 i was a Cavalier, i have quite a lot of photos of the school and Shaftesbury House some records but a lot were destroyed in a fire in London in the 1950s, you can obtain photos and records from the Surrey History Centre 130 Goldsworth Road,Woking, Surrey, gu21 6nd.
www.surreycc.gov.uk/surreyhistorycentreservice
shs@surreycc.gov.uk
Hope you find what you are looking for,
best Regards.

                          Gerald



Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: gerald.pntlworld.c on Friday 18 February 11 15:23 GMT (UK)
Hi John
I was a pupil at bisley boys school from 1939-1948 i was a Cavalier, i have quite a lot of photos of the school and Shaftesbury House some records but a lot were destroyed in a fire in London in the 1950s, you can obtain photos and records from the Surrey History Centre 130 Goldsworth Road,Woking, Surrey, gu21 6nd.
www.surreycc.gov.uk/surreyhistorycentreservice
shs@surreycc.gov.uk
Hope you find what you are looking for,
best Regards.

                          Gerald




Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes, Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: Trojan on Saturday 19 February 11 11:29 GMT (UK)
Hi, Anyone from or about The Shaftesbury Homes @ Bisley, Surrey, UK.  I find this site a bit confusing as it also runs into Geneology, but would love to have ongoing communication with any Old Boys from Bisley, Juniors or Seniors.  Please feel free to Email me direct, I do not send out circular Jokes etc, just reply to Friends & Family.
I last posted here in September 2010. My Email is <lynles@slingshot.co.nz>  My memory is confusing me with the layout of the Junior School, & the Senior School, so would love to have a drawing of anything anyone can regarding the Buildings etc.  I was there April1938-December 1944.    Can anyone remember what the Bandmaster's first name was .....Pope.     Also the name of the Shoemaking Teacher, with a Glass Eye.   Mr.Tucker I think was the Engineering Teacher, who was the Tailoring Teacher? Bertram Read was the Headmaster, Bill Tull was the Junior's Housemaster, Bill Wylie was the Seniors Housemaster.  Miss Turner was one Junior Teacher, who was the other? Charlie Rogers (3a) was the Music Teacher, (3b) Mr Macey, I cannot remeber what he taught, was it basic Maths?  (5) Starkey Goodger...what was his forte, English?  (6) Horsey Paddock, advanced Maths.     Mr Mansfield Groundskeeper & Sports Master.   Was there a Form 4? who was the Teacher.
When Bill Tull retired, 1939 I think, he became the Landlord of the Crown & Anchor Hotel at Knaphill, Nr. Woking Surrey.   His Daughter Margaret was one day older than I, & were madly in Love. She bought me sweets down to the Playing Fields on Saturdays, as I rarely behaved enough to earn any from the Tuck Shop.   Mr Wenman took over from Bill Tull, but when his Daughter was killed srossing the road outside the local School, he & his Wife moved away.   He was replaced by a Mr Cole, more later. Leslie B. Jones GCR. KCSM.
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: RSA 378 on Friday 25 February 11 01:15 GMT (UK)






RSA 378. I posted recently about my time at Bisley, but it doesn't yet appear on the site. Will try and retrieve it and re-post.










Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: RSA 378 on Friday 25 February 11 01:31 GMT (UK)
I posted on 21st February 2011. Does not yet appear on site.
RSA 378
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: RSA 378 on Sunday 27 February 11 01:00 GMT (UK)
I was at Bisley from March 1935 to July 42. I sat the RSA exam in July 40, top of school. I was a Spartan, and Cavalier 123, and school elevens for cricket and football. Earned the Queens Prize 41 and 42. My brother was a year ahead of me. I came to Sydney 1955, my brother to Canada later. Haveonly one photograph from school, would appreciate others. Labour Omnia Vincit!
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: RSA 378 on Tuesday 24 May 11 07:07 BST (UK)
From RSA 378
I seem to have been an early entry and haven't followed up since, but happy to see the site now. My brother and I went to Bisley in March 1935, both Spartans, then Cavaliers (Nos. 112 and 123 respectively). He was head prefect, and topped his year in the RSA and I did the same in July 1940. Yes, it was headmaster Bertram L Read, matron Rand, Horsey Paddock of 6a, bandmaster Hope ex-army, senna and the picture show (and sweet shop) on Sats. RSA 378 is for my 'place card' number in the exams, and I still have the exam papers and class results. Left July 42.
I found quite a few maps and a bit of history on the web, including pics of the start of Farm School (later the juniors), and that the senior school (and the Socierty?) was shut down (I think 1956) and senior school is now (very rebuilt) Coldingley Prison (a restricted site in case any of you are thinking of going back for a visit - or a spell?)
My brother Walter John joined the RN, served as navigation officer on MTBs, left as a Lieutenant, joined Power-Samas (the then punch-card firm) and married and emigrated to Canada as computer systems 'expert'. He died about 5 years ago.
I was an aircraft fitter apprentice at General Aircraft, Feltham, and also in the RN from 44, electrical mechanic, went out to Singapore Naval Air Station (Just as war finished) left as Petty Officer, emigrated to Australia in 1955 to set up Melbourne office of W E Sykes, the gear cutting firm of those days. Have written it down for my son as much as I remember.
Now in Sydney, 85 in Sept. Happy time at Bisley. Good to read the stories
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: bohdithedog on Saturday 19 November 11 06:10 GMT (UK)
Hi John and Sandra,

I am so excited to be reading this thread. My dad, Harry Valentine Smith and his brother Cecil Smith were both in Bisley from 1936 to 1942. The images you paint of yourself John and your father Sandra are great and remind me of my dad. That library must have been a refuge for so many as my dad was known to always have a book as well, and we would joke that he would read a match box if there was nothing else around (I actually have vivid memories of him picking up anything and reading it if it was in the vicinity!). His ritual when I was growing up was that of going to the library every Saturday morning and returned the 5 or so books he had read that week and getting another 5 more. Dad joined the navy in WW2, then after the war he immigrated to Australia (where I am now).

The only clue I have of my dad's time at Bisley is a small book titled "A Man's Pocket- Book or Religion" and inside it has a pasted sheet on the  front Stating - Bisley School Surrey present to Harry Valentine Smith on leaving the school date July 1942. Francis H Clayton Chairman and Bertram L Read Headmaster.

John, I thought that the name of his brother may trigger some memories as I don't imagine Cecil was a common name even then.

I'd love to see or hear anything you are willing to share.

I hope to hear from you
Thanks in advance
Tania
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: cbaughen on Monday 19 November 18 17:18 GMT (UK)
Although this series of posts doesn't appear to be active I will still try.
My father (Berney Charles Baughen) and his brother (Clifford Walter Henry Baughen) were at Bisley school in the late 1930s. I don't know for certain when they joined or left. Clifford was born in 1922. At some stage he joined the RAF but sadly was killed in 1943 on his last training flight before taking his active duties. He had married about 4 months before this tragedy. Berney was 5 years younger but sadly passed away in 2016. Before his death I managed to get him to record some of his life stories and they are available at www.baughen.co.uk/Berney . One tells of his time at Bisley and indicates he joined about 1934. Berney played cornet in the school band.
I've tried to locate both of them in the 1939 Register - Clifford had probably left school by then. Has anyone else been able to locate pupils at the school? I did try browsing the records for the area but had no luck.
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: Kaza59 on Saturday 26 August 23 02:15 BST (UK)
Hi....I know it is a long time since this thread has been used, but I have just found this. I am in Australia.
My Father - Albert Arthur Smith was a student at the school in 1939- and could have been earlier as well. He was 9 in 1939.
I know it is a longshot now due to age. but wondering if anyone remembers him and could perhaps give me memories of him. He didn't speak of this part of his life and we would love to know about him during his childhood.
His brother Percy who was older, could have also been here with him, but I cannot find information on him. in the records.  He was Gordon Percival Smith and would have been 11/12 in 1939.
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Karen
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: cbaughen on Saturday 26 August 23 07:58 BST (UK)
With some help I managed to find my father in the 1939 Register at Bisley. You may to recheck. My imge reference was RG101/1935A/012/31   TNA_R39_1935_1935A_012 . The Guild of One Studies did a webinar on finding people in the 1939 Registry (was recorded). Is your relative still alive (if so the entry will be redacted). My father is no longer with us and therefore I can't ask him if he knew your relative.  Good luck.

Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: Kaza59 on Sunday 27 August 23 01:58 BST (UK)
Hi

Thank you for your reply.

I have a copy of the page from the register for 1939 that shows my Dad's details, which is how I found out he had been there.  He has passed and that is why I am guessing is the reason this came up when I did a search for information on Ancestry.

I was hoping that there might have still been someone around that knew him then....yes a lot of wishful thinking  :)

Anyway it was worth a try and I again thank you for your response.

Karen  :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: cbaughen on Sunday 27 August 23 07:26 BST (UK)
My father, who was obviously at there at the same time , wrote down his memories of this period in his life. They can be found at https://www.baughen.co.uk/PDFs/My%20Childhood.pdf (https://www.baughen.co.uk/PDFs/My%20Childhood.pdf) .
Title: Re: Shaftesbury Homes,Bisley Boys Central School 1936-1941
Post by: Kaza59 on Sunday 27 August 23 08:37 BST (UK)
Hello

Thank you for that.

I have read and it gives me some idea of how Dad may have spent his time and what life would have been like there.

I really appreciate all your assistance with this.

Regards

Karen