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Independent Islands => Isle of Man => Isle of Man Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Spotty on Wednesday 27 October 04 20:04 BST (UK)
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I'm not sure if anyone can help with this one. I have just found out I have a link to the IOM.
Charles Birch b 1857 (Born Liverpool) married Margaret E b 1867 (born on IOM) and had at least two children Thomas Edward and Charles Henry. Thomas Edward was also born on the IOM in 1889.
Are there any marriage reocrds for this pair.
Thanks in advance. Its a long shot. :)
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I'm still looking for this pair or if anyone can find any 1891 census records for Birch on the IOM I would appreciate it.
:)
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Hello there,
I've found your family in 1891, but they're not in the IOM they are in Liverpool -
1891
34, Guthric Street, Liverpool, West Derby
Charles Birch 34 Head M Plasterer Liverpool, Lancashire
Margaret E Birch 24 Wife M Isle of Man
Thos. Edwd. Birch 2 Son Isle of Man
Charles Henry Birch 7m Son Lancashire, Liverpool
(RG12/ 2991/ 69/ 15)
Doesn't help much with their marriage though! There's nothing on the IGI :( Perhaps if you managed to get a birth certificate for one of her children (born in England), it would give you her maiden name and aid your research :)
Best of Luck
Sue ;D
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Thank you very much indeed :) :) I'm well happy with that.
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Wow that was a quick reply ;D
Have you got them in 1901? Margaret's name seems to have changed to Lily ???
Sue
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Wow that was a quick reply ;D
Have you got them in 1901? Margaret's name seems to have changed to Lily ???
Sue
*groans* nothing in my tree is straight forward!! Who's Lily? a second wife maybe. No of course not, you're right she's just now down as Lily.
I'm collecting things to look for on the 1901 thats 2 things to check now (saving up to £5)
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Well if his second wife is the same age and born in the IOM then yes!!
1901
21 Guthrie Street, Liverpool, West Derby
Charles Birch 44 Head M Plasterer Lancashire, Liverpool
Lily Birch 34 Wife M Isle of Man
Thomas E '' 12 Son Isle of Man
Arthur I '' 7 Son Lancashire, Liverpool
Frank W '' 5 Son '' ''
John Henz 64 Lodger M Plasterer '' ''
(RG13/ 3491/ 162/ 30)
Regards
Sue :D
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Thanks ever so much for this Sue.
This is a bit tenuous but after reading some threads about deaf census takers....
Here middle initial was E. I wonder if that was Elizabeth and she was known as Lizzie - can you see where I'm going with this one!!
I notice they have moved along the road too.
Oh well many thanks again for all your help.
xx
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Yes, you could well be right, you have to have a very open-mind with these old records ;)
I have found this listing in the birth index -
1896 - Frank William Birch 8b - 538 - June Reg. dist. West Derby
It ought to reveal Margaret/Lily's maiden name and progress your research. You can apply online at
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificate/index.asp#0
Hope you sort it all out in the end :) If you would like any further help (I have a subscription to ancestry) or if you would like me to send you a scanned copy of the original census returns then send me a PM with your e-mail address
Best of luck
Sue :)
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I've ordered that birth certificate so I'll see if that clears things up... or not!.
;)
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Good luck ;D
Post your findings when you get it, it's always good to get feedback.
Sue ;)
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hey Sue,
The birth cert came today and I was right her middle name was Elizabeth and maiden name Quayle. On Genes there are a few Quayles on the IOM so i can investigate more now,
Cheers for your help.
Pam.
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Nice one - I'm really pleased for you.
Quayle is a very common Manx name, try Brian Lawsons site there are loads of them on there ;D
http://www.lawsons.ca
Good luck
Sue :)
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I just spotted as well that on the childs birth cert she is down as Elizabeth Margaret so it probably was 'Lizzie'. :)