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Title: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: wendydbriscoe on Monday 28 August 06 11:38 BST (UK)
Hi,
On a Recent trip to Vadso Norway while i was visiting Relatives, I came across a Grave in the local Church yard
It read
Midshipman Edward J Howard
HMS Active
No Date of Death
I wonder what he was doing in Vadso so far away from Home
I have a photo of the Grave if anyone is intrested
Kind Regards
Wendy
Title: Re: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: Dave Francis on Monday 28 August 06 12:07 BST (UK)
Hi Wendy

Sounds like a RootChat challenge to me!

How old would you say the gravestone is?

Had a look at the CWGC website, but can't see a suitable burial in Norway.

On the National Archives website the following are available from the 'Registers of Seamen's Services':
Edward John Lees HOWARD dob 18 Feb 1896
Edward HOWARD dob 23 April 1886
Edward HOWARD dob 29 September 1879
Edward HOWARD dob 3 July 1879
Edward HOWARD dob 12 May 1866

HMS Active, a destroyer, appears to have had at least two incarnations, probably more.
Perhaps it saw action in Norway in WW2?
Title: Re: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Monday 28 August 06 12:25 BST (UK)
From Wikipedia:

# The eighth Active, launched in 1869, was a Volage-class iron screw corvette, sold in 1906.

# The ninth Active, launched in 1911, was the lead ship of her class of scout cruiser. She served in World War I and was scrapped in 1920.

# The tenth Active (H14), launched in 1928, was an A-class destroyer. She served in World War II, taking part in the sinking of three submarines. She was broken up in 1947.


HMS Active #9 took part in the Battle of Jutland (1916).

Rambler
Title: Re: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: wendydbriscoe on Monday 28 August 06 12:40 BST (UK)
Hi
Thanks for your reply to my message
The Grave could Be World War2
as Norway was occupied during this time
But i would love to solve the mystery
The grave is well looked after by the locals
        regards
        Wendy
Title: Re: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: liverpool annie on Friday 01 September 06 18:09 BST (UK)



Hi Wendy and welcome to RootsChat !  :)

Can you post the photo by any chance ?

Annie  :)
Title: Re: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: wendydbriscoe on Friday 01 September 06 21:00 BST (UK)
Hi Annie,
            Thanks to your reply regarding my message regarding R.N Grave Norway.
I tried to attach my photo to my message but the photo was to big for some reason.
If i could have your e-mail address i will willing send it to you.
Kind Regards
Wendy
Title: Re: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: GRACELAND on Monday 04 September 06 16:32 BST (UK)
Have you tryed Postin On the War Fourm ?



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If you want i could ? :)
Title: Re: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: liverpool annie on Monday 04 September 06 16:53 BST (UK)


We need the photo on HERE Grace !!  ;) ;) ;)

Could you please help Wendy ??

Annie  :)
Title: Re: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: GRACELAND on Monday 04 September 06 16:55 BST (UK)
Annie Tell here too send it to me you have my address  :D
Title: Re: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: harribobs on Monday 04 September 06 17:06 BST (UK)
is it an official war grave?

does the headstone look like this?

(http://harribobs.smugmug.com/photos/34334350-S-1.jpg)
Title: Re: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: richard1952 on Tuesday 20 January 09 11:56 GMT (UK)
I think this Edward John Lees Howard was my grandfather's cousin (names and dates fit exactly).  Was there a date on the grave?

Could you email me a photo?

Thanks

Richard Smith (*)

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Title: Re: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: Norse59 on Wednesday 16 October 13 18:53 BST (UK)
Being a native of Vadsų, I know this grave well. This link: http://www.finnmarken.no/lokale_nyheter/article6125474.ece leads to an article in the local newspaper, concerning who has the responsibility to maintain the grave.

The first paragraph of the article reads (in my translation):
"On August 4th 1896, the sailor Edward J. Howard died in Vadsų. The 19 years old boy fell from the rigging of one of the English ships moored in Vadsų. The accident occured in connection with the solar eclipse thet drew both scientists and foreign navies to Vadsų in 1896."
Title: Re: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: Michael Martin on Thursday 15 February 18 14:25 GMT (UK)
Hi. I am the organist of Vadsų church and have seen this grave myself. If i can send the photo i have to someone then let me know at michaelmartin94@ymail.com
Title: Re: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: AncestryPete on Thursday 01 March 18 14:47 GMT (UK)
What superb help from Norway !
Title: Re: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: jamcat95 on Sunday 04 March 18 09:54 GMT (UK)
Hi all

Here is his death record. He was born 1877:
https://urn.digitalarkivet.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050216020399.jpg - nr17

He was a midshipman.

Place of residence:
Service on.............? - perhaps someone can make the other word out.

Cause of death:
He fell down from the rigging and died instantly.


Ian

Title: Re: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Sunday 04 March 18 10:36 GMT (UK)
"Service on.............? " Training ship HMS Active.

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1991JBAA..101..162M

He is mentioned on page 167.

Malky
Title: Re: R.N War Grave Norway
Post by: jamcat95 on Sunday 04 March 18 10:40 GMT (UK)
Nice one Malky.

Just noticed that the thread is very old. Just hope they get the new info.

Ian