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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: Jessy on Thursday 31 August 06 11:11 BST (UK)
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Can anyone help me find this woman??? I think she was born about 1885 in Newcastle upon Tyne. She married a J Rutherford Fletcher who was I believe scottish. She was president of the Carl Rosa operatic company. Her fathers initial was D and he lived at 24 Kenilworth Rd Newcastle on the day of Thereses wedding. Thats all I know but I am desperate to find her :'( Jess
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what was the date of the marriage?
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Hi david, Unfortunately I dont know guessing maybe 1915
all I have is a newspaper cutting with no date it says she was the youngest daughter of D Healy but no christian name. My mother was her cousin and was her bridesmaid and looks about max. 5 years younger and she was born 1900. I cant even find a birth record for Therese to work back on her parents names??????? Maybe a brick wall on this its such a shame. Jess :-[
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Any good?
Birth June 1900
Newcastle upon Tyne
Theresa Josephine Healy
10b 70
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Her father was Daniel :
1901
RG13/4775 109 4
Westgate, Northumberland
42 Longley Street
Daniel Healy, head, 38, Printer Compositor
Mary A, wife, 35
John, son, 13
Mary R, dau, 11
George J, son, 9
Cicely, dau, 6
Thomas D, son, 5
Teresa J, dau, 10? months
All born Newcastle
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WOW Tati thats what I was looking for - I need to make sure her Mother was Mary Ann Sword born to James W Sword and Isabella (nee Robson). That she had a sister Margaret. This is very exciting!!!!! Jess
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Well ... I don't know :P
The one marriage I can see at first sight is
Daniel Healy to possibly Mary Annie Ogle Dec 1886 Newcastle 10b 246
which would about tie in with their eldest child John being age 3 in 1891 :-\
Was your Mary Ann Sword born ca. 1865 Newcastle? (I can't see one on census)
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1891
89 Stone Street, Westgate
Daniel Healy - head - 28 - Printer's compossitor - Newcastle
Mary A Healy - wife - 25 - Newcastle
John Healy - son - 3 - Newcastle
Mary R Healy - dau - 2 - Newcastle
+ 1 servant
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Hey Jessy - just remembering - weren't you tracing OGLEs??
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Can you see Daniel in 1881, David? ??? I'm getting nowhere :-\
This is the match I can see for Mary A Ogle:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=17042434
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Yes Tati, The other side of the family are Ogles. When I was told my mother was bridesmaid to her cousin we always thought it was to a Sword. Guess you have found someone I havent got on my tree how exciting. Jessy
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Not found him in 1881 yet
1871
44 Low Friar Street, Newcastle, Northumberland
Thomas Healy - head - 36 - Engine fitter - Ireland
Mary Healy - wife - 36 - Clothers dealer - Hexham
Daniel Healy - son - 8 - Newcastle
John Healy - son - 2 - Newcastle
Thomas Healy - son - 1 - Newcastle
+ 1 servant
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Hi guys, could you help me work back on Mary Annie Ogle. I may have two possible fathers there was a Robert Ogle born 1843 and a George Ogle born 1848 both of whom I have no wives and children for. Maybe Mary is one of their daughters??? Just shows I have been looking in the wrong place for weeks. Jess
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In 1891, he's called Robert Jones Ogle.
1861 has a Robert Jones Ogle son of George and Susannah.
RG9/3817 32 58
Elswick, Northumberland
53 Tyne Side Terrace
George Ogle, head, 41, Steam Engine Fitter, b. Durham Chester le Street
Susannah, wife, 40, b. Durham City
Robert Jones do., son, 18, Iron Founder, b. Gateshead
Mary Ann do., dau, 12, scholar, b. Nortumberland Mast**
Mary, dau, 10, scholar, b. do.
Joseph Mathew?, son, 3, b. do.
Big gaps in children's ages ... wonder if this is a 2nd marriage
Couldn't you open the link to the 1881 census posted earlier?
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=17042434
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Sorry tati I didnt see the 1881 link Im getting too excited here need to calm down. So keep me right Robert married a Mary J - they had a daughter Mary A and she had a daughter Therese Josephine. am I right???? Just shows how easy it is to run off in the wrong direction heres me thinking it was a sword connection for weeks. Thanks for all this info I need to sit and digest with a coffee. Id make you one too if you were here. ;D Jessy
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That's what it looks like, yes.
I'd be careful however on Robert's parentage until you find a christening record for him, just to check hboth his parents names. In case he was Susannah's son prior to her marriage to George, or the other way round.
Same for Mary A.
Tanja
(dying for a coffee ;D)
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Marriage December quarter 1863
Newcastle upon Tyne 10b 170
Robert Jones Ogle to possibly Mary Jane Stephenson
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And possibly:
Sep 1844 Tynemouth XXV 332
George Ogle on the same page as a Susannah Jones
In 1851, George is only 4 years old ??? There's a brother Thomas age 6 who is blind, and daughters Margaret age 2 and Mary 1 month.
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Yes thats them. So really the bridesmaid was not a direct cousin which is what threw us she is 1/2 cousin. Probably they just said cousin for the paper article. I think Robert was born 1 year or so out of wed lock to George and Susanna. Jessy