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Title: what is an Enderd?
Post by: dizzybare on Monday 08 January 07 19:38 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have the 1871 census for my G Grandfather Henry Hosier which shows he was a boarder at North Surrey District  School in Penge Surrey.

He is noted in relationship to head as ''enderd.''
I have cross referenced with other pupils who are also noted as enderd.
Has anyone any ideas why? What was an enderd?

Thanks
Diane  ???
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: Necromancer on Monday 08 January 07 19:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Diane, I think it must be a foible of the people who Ancestry used to transcribe the records (big school - many pages of original Enumerators data)   ... theres nowt in the Relationship column after Page 4 - where the Scholars start ...

It may be some sort of code meaning 'entered' ?
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: meles on Monday 08 January 07 20:00 GMT (UK)
"Endered" is not in the Oxford English Dictioary.... :-\

meles
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: suey on Monday 08 January 07 20:02 GMT (UK)

Does not appear in any of my dictionaries  :(  can you give the specific reference for the page it appears on cos I can't find it  :(


I think Newfy might be right - just another best guess by Ancestry
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: Tati on Monday 08 January 07 20:04 GMT (UK)
I looked through quite a few pages of the folio and couldn't see any mention of 'enderd' either.
The column seems to be blank for all the children  ???

Reference is RG10/851 129 39
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: PrueM on Monday 08 January 07 20:05 GMT (UK)
Agree with Newfy...it's some anomaly courtesy of the Ancestry transcribers.  Looking at the actual census image, there is nothing but a tick or check mark in the relationship column, to indicate I think that the data on that sheet had been transcribed over to another document. 

Prue
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: julianb on Monday 08 January 07 20:17 GMT (UK)
I remember this - I have someone in my tree there in 1871.

I've looked at the first sheet of pupils, and the last - and as others have said there's nothing but a line drawn down (if that).

But my chappie, William Bransden, is described as an "Enderd" on the ancestry summary.

I think the transcriber must have enderd the third dimension  ;D

JULIAN
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: dizzybare on Monday 08 January 07 20:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone for  looking.

I thought maybe it was an olde English word and may be important.

Never leave anything unturned just in case!!!

Diane
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: wrjones on Monday 08 January 07 20:45 GMT (UK)
Could the word simply be;endeared-loved one?

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: PrueM on Monday 08 January 07 23:02 GMT (UK)
Lovely thought, William, but the word is only found in the transcription online, not on the actual page.  :)
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: Renee on Tuesday 09 January 07 13:45 GMT (UK)
Hi,
   Even though the spelling is wrong,could someone have meant "Indentured". As in
referring to the person being bonded to the
owner or resident?
                     Renee
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: meles on Tuesday 09 January 07 16:40 GMT (UK)
I think that's an excellent guess, and in another context might be right, but he is a boarder at school, so unlikely to be indentured in this instance.

meles
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: Renee on Wednesday 10 January 07 13:31 GMT (UK)
I "Googled" the word "enderd. Here is one Quote on the word:
  "The necessity of water Baptism.
which does,however,believe in the necessity of Baptism,though I agree that if one died after choosing baptism,or is "Enderd",from Baptism, they can still...."
   So,in this context,has something to do with religion. I also saw a reference to the game,"Dungeons and Dragons",but don't think it would apply to your entry. Also,
I believe,even students who boarded at schools could be taken in as servants or bonded as future teachers to pay
their tuition.   
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: Necromancer on Wednesday 10 January 07 13:34 GMT (UK)
Is this thread really a 'Pick the right definition' competition   ???
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 10 January 07 20:00 GMT (UK)
AAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!  ::) ::) ::) ::)  This is driving me up the wall!

Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but if you read what Newfy and I wrote waaaaay up the page, you will see that the word enderd does not feature on the census page at all, only in the transcription done by Ancestry

The word has nothing to do with the person on the census!  It is some random thing added by an Ancestry transcriber, for reasons known only to them. 

THERE IS NO WORD "ENDERED" ON THIS CENSUS RETURN!!!  THEREFORE IT CAN'T MEAN ANYTHING!!! 

*takes deep breath*

...right.  I feel better now.  Please return to what you were doing.  Sorry to shout  ;)
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: Necromancer on Wednesday 10 January 07 20:02 GMT (UK)
 ;D ;D ;D

it was getting quite surreal


 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 10 January 07 20:04 GMT (UK)
Well done Prue  ;D ;D ;D

I thought that I had missed something - but I think I feel better now  ;)

This is an enderd, entry:

'                                         '



Gadget
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 10 January 07 20:18 GMT (UK)
Thanks folks  ;)

Nice work, Gadget  ;D

Can we lock this thread now?  ;D

Prue
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: dizzybare on Wednesday 10 January 07 20:26 GMT (UK)
Flippin eck

sorry I asked now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 10 January 07 20:29 GMT (UK)
No worries dizzybare  ;) ;D
Just goes to show, one needs to read previous posts on a thread before one goes to post an answer  ;)

Cheers
Prue
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: suey on Wednesday 10 January 07 20:55 GMT (UK)



and here endered the lesson  ;D ;D

Suey...sorry folks could'nt resist  ;D
Title: Re: what is an Enderd?
Post by: RJ_Paton on Wednesday 10 January 07 21:36 GMT (UK)
I think this one is wandering off topic (a lot  ::) )

I think the original point has been answered and for the moment I've locked the thread