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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Banffshire => Topic started by: dizzliz on Sunday 04 February 07 18:48 GMT (UK)
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Anyone can help me please. I am trying to trace my Harvey family tree . I dont have much info but do know that:
Charles Harvey married Margaret ?
they had
James born 1840 ( my great great grand father)
Charles born abt 1841
Margaret born abt 1843
William born abt 1845
Peter born abt 1851
after this I loose the family for a while. I know all the children above ere born in Banffshire .Can trace till the 1851 Cenus then cant find them again till James's son John got married in 1888 in New Zealand.
If anyone can help me it would be appreciated . Thank you
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Hi Dizzliz
Welcome to RootsChat :)
These are the entries for the children of Charles Harvey and Margaret BROWN showing on IGI, actual extracts from the OPRs:
1. JAMES HERVEY Birth: 29 FEB 1840/ Christening: 22 MAR 1840 Gamrie, Banff, Scotland
2. CHARLES HARVEY Birth: 16 MAY 1841 Gamrie, Banff, Scotland
3. MARGARET HARVEY Birth: 13 MAR 1843 Gamrie, Banff, Scotland
4. WILLIAM D. HARVEY Birth: 18 JUL 1845 Gamrie, Banff, Scotland
5. PETER HARVEY Birth: 17 JUL 1849 Gamrie, Banff, Scotland
6. ALEXR. L. HARVEY Birth: 04 APR 1852 Gamrie, Banff, Scotland
And the parents' marriage also showing as an actual extract on IGI:
CHARLES HARVEY Marriages: Spouse: MARGARET BROWN
Marriage: 28 MAY 1839 Gamrie, Banff, Scotland
Regards.
Monica
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The family in 1861:
Charles Harvey 48, hair Daisser (dresser?), b. Gartly, Aberdeenshire
Margaret Harvey 46, b. Keith, Banffshire
Margaret Harvey 17, b. McKeff, Banffshire
Peter Harvey 11, b. McKeff, Banffshire
Alexander Harvey 8, b. McKeff, Banffshire
Address: 7 Soutar St, MacDuff, Banff
Regards.
Monica
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Can't easily see James in 1861? Do you approx dates for when he arrived in NZ, have you managed to find any details of his crossing? Did he marry in NZ and have children there?
The closest I can see is possibly a mistrasciption of his surname, but I am looking at an index rather than the original image:
James HAWAY, 21, lodger, druggist, b. MacDuff, Banffshire
Address: 7 8 Black's Buildings, St Nicholas, Aberdeen
A possible entry for brother Charles lodging in a Sclater houshold in Edinburgh:
George Harvey, 19, lodger, Clerk Newspaper Office, b. MacDuff, Banffshire
Address: 7 Richmond Pl, Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Midlothian
Regards.
Monica
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To Monica,
Gee whizz thank you so much for that info on my Harvey Family it is so appreciated. In answer to your questions about James born 1861 we have no approximate dates of arrival for any of the family as I have done the shipping listd but to no avail, also we know he married Elizabeth Miller with no dates and that they had a son John but weather they had any more family we dont know :D
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Can't see a marriage for James and Elizabeth Miller in Scotland, so they must have married in NZ (?).
Regards.
Monica
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I am a direct descendant of James Harvey. He is buried in the village cemetery at Kirknewton, now in the County of West Lothian, Scotland. Until 1975 Kirknewton was in the County of Midlothian. He died aged 73 on 19th December 1913 in Kirknewton. He left a widow, Agnes Gibb. His parents were Charles Harvey and Margaret Harvey nee Brown. His occupation had been at the time of death a retired Oilwork Labourer. The local area was the largest world producer of oil (ie mineral oil extracted from the ground, which accounts for the orange shale bings or slags surrounding this area). The grave has a headstone marking his death and that of his widow, who died on 1st June 1918 in Kirknewton. In the next grave is buried his son, William.
Charles Harvey and Margaret Brown had children as follows:
James born 22 Mar 1840
Charles born 16 May 1841
Margaret born 13 Mar 1843
William D. born 18 Jul 1845
Peter born 17 Jul 1848
Alexander Leask born 4 Apl 1852
All were born in Macduff, a town 2 miles east of Banff in Aberdeenshire. Macduff is a fishing port situated on Gamrie Bay and was known as the parish of Gamrie.
Sometime around the 1850s they moved to Stirling, ie St Ninians. A son, Charles, was involved in the printing business. There Margaret Brown died aged 60 on 27 Aug 1875; her widower Charles died aged 78 in nearby Old Sauchie on 11 Dec 1890 (St Ninians Parish, Parish No. 488/1, Entry 73).
The Marriage Entry for the Newington District of Edinburgh (Parish No 685/5, Entry 159) shows that 31 year old James Harvey, a Clerk residing in the Pleasance, Edinburgh, married Agnes Gibb on 23rd May 1871. Prior to their marriage they had a son, James, on 6th June 1870. (Newington 685/5 Entry 708). The occupation of father James is recorded as Druggist's Assistant. They later had a number of other children, all born locally, and from which I am descended in the male line. Just prior to the 1891 census the family moved to Kirknewton. The forefathers of his wife, Agnes Gibb, all came from West Lothian since the 1600s. She grew up in East Calder, 2 miles away from Kirknewton.
The children of James Harvey and Agnes Gibb are:-
James b. 6 Jun 1870
Mary b.1872
Margaret b. 1874
Agnes b. 1876
Charles b. 1878
William b. 1881
Archibald b. 1883
All were born in the Edinburgh area. I have no record of a John having been born to them.
AH
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The Old Parish Record for Gamrie ie Macduff (Parish No 155/3) for 1839 states:
"May 28. Charles Harvey in this Parish and Margaret Brown Parish of St Clements Aberdeen were married 28th May."
The Old Parish Record for the town of Falkirk (Parish No 479) for June 1838 states:
"James Harvey and Margaret Brown both of this parish married 22 Current."
Have you got the correct "James Harvey and Margaret Brown"?
AH
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re harveyofgartley, hi there yes there is somehow a connection would love to chat to you more here is my home email addy please send me a email and also i will pop back here later to answer you with what i have thanks heaps :)
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ummm maybe i need to apologise as have just relooked at my records and the info i have is that John Harvey born 1860 birthplace looks like Dudley ? Piaford ? or similar as the writting on the cert is hard to read . The certificate is a marriage cert from 1888 of John Harvey and Letitia Coulter married in Wellington , New Zealand. Johns parents were James Harvey ( engineer ) and Elizabeth Miller.
Anyone please help all this is making my head go round and round
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Does anyone know what happened to William D Harvey born 1845 son of Charley and Margaret when researching this family.
My husbands great grandfather was William MacDuff born about 1845 Banff Scotland and emigrated to New Zealand assumedly in 1860s so far noone has found his birth records.On our family tree William D Harvey comes up as a potential member. Any information would be a help
Thanks
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All were born in Macduff, a town 2 miles east of Banff in Aberdeenshire. Macduff is a fishing port situated on Gamrie Bay and was known as the parish of Gamrie.
Not strictly correct. The town of Macduff is indeed in the parish of Gamrie, but there are other places in the parish of Gamrie, including Gardenstown which I have heard referred to locally as Gamrie.
The parish kirk of Gamrie is about six miles from Macduff - see http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ7962 - but there is also a kirk in Macduff itself - see http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=84886572 - which was built in 1805.
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I have to agree with Harveyofgartly that James Harvey did marry Agnes Gibb and died in Kirknewton. I am descended from Margaret Brown's youngest brother James, and I have researched the Harvey family thoroughly as part of my Brown family research. However I too am missing the whereabouts of William D Harvey after the 1861 census at the Colleonard Nursery in Banff.
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I saw a post by you dated 2007. I have just come on to this website and finding my feet, as they say. Do you still need help with the family Harvey from Macduff (Parish of Gamrie)?
James Harvey is my great-grandfather. He died on 19 December 1913 in Kirknewton in the Parish of Kirknewton & East Calder. I do have some family records. He was married to Agnes Gibb of East Calder and who died in 1918.
James was the son of Charles Harvey (b. 1812 in Gartly, near Huntly, Aberdeenshire). His father was Peter Harvey, born around 1768, probably in Gartly. There were quite a few Harvey’s living in that parish in the 18th century.
Charles married Margaret Brown and his father Peter married Jane (Jean) Mason about 1790.
Around the late 1850’s the entire family moved to Stirling. Why I do not know but one explanation may have been to do with famine in that part of Scotland during those times.