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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Northumberland => England => Northumberland Lookup Requests => Topic started by: koru on Wednesday 07 February 07 08:34 GMT (UK)
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my ancestor was born in Wallsend, NBL in 1785. His name was Thomas Macnay> I believe he also married there. His wifes name was Mace (dont know whether this was her 1st
or surname. I know of only one son born 1827 also wallsend, named Matthew Macnay. Thomas and Matthew were both coal miners. This is all I know about them & so would appreciate any information.
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Hi Koru
Welcome to Rootschat!
This seems to be the family in 1851 - I think the Mace name might be a misunderstanding of the wife's name!
HO107/2392/441/42
Thomas MACNAY H M 65 - coal miner - Northd Wallsend
Stacey W M 65 - do modified see below
Mathew son U 21? - coal miner - do
Ralph son 13 - do - Durham Hetton
Margaret DAY serv 10 - do
Address: Haswell, Durham
Have you found them in 1841?
kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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Welcome to Rootschat Koru 8) 8)
I think it's Alace ;)
Will post 1841 details in a mo ... :D (Unless you are already typing it, Arranroots?)
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A few more children for you in 1841 and the wife's name is quite clear here (assuming it is the same one!)
HO107/296/12/32/19
Thomas MCNAY 50 - coalminer - N
Alice 50 N
Joseph 15 - do -N
Elizabeth 14 N
Matthew 12 - do - N
Eleanor 9 N
Alice BARTRAM 3 Y
Ralph MCNAY 3 Y
Address: ?Wreckenton, Gateshead, Durham
A ;)
(sorry Tati - already done them!) :-[
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I think it's Alace ;)
Just looked back at 1851 and agree with you Tati - definitely written Alace
A ;)
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Baptism Wallsend (C of E):
Elizabeth Macnay 30 Oct 1831 d/o Thomas and Alice
Burial Wallsend
William McNay, age 6, Wallsend, 13 Aug 1837
Baptism: Carville Wesleyan Wallsend
Mary Mc Nay born 11 Sept 1819 baptised 13 Sept 1819 d/o Thomas McNay and Alice
I couldn't find a marriage in Northumberland or Co. Durham
Janis
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thanks to all for the speedy reply to my query. I will study it tonight . I had reached a stage when I did not think I could continue with my family tree but I am now inspired to keep going. With appreciation..Koru
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Just to add a wee bit, brought on by spotting Janis's mention of Wesleyan church.
Up to July 1837 the only LEGAL way to marry in England, was in a church of the "established church of the land"
( = a "Parish" Church, = The Church of England)
Quakers and Jewish people were exempted from this legislation.
So the choice for Wesleyans, Presbyterians, Catholics etc, was to...
* marry in the "wrong" church,
** just not marry,
*** marry beyond te reach of English law.. e.g Scotland
Michael Dixon
(RC who crossed from Northumberland to Scotland to marry... but not for legal reasons..and after 1837 ! LOL )
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Hi ive been researching my family tree on and off for about 10 years and today after going from site to site ended up here - your post is from 2007 so no doubt you have found out more about your links to Thomas Macnay but just to let you know I am related...Thomas is my gggg grandad.
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I am very sorry but koru's email address is no longer working. Sadly we have not been able to find a new address for Koru.
Regards
Sarah
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Looking for birth/baptism for matthew macnay c1831 wallsend tyne and wear parents thomas macnay and alice... previous comment has another child baptised in carville methodist church wallsend 1819
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Matthew MAGNAY Baptised 1 November 1829, St Peter, Wallsend
Parents THOMAS/ALICE
Abode Wallend
Fathers Occp Pitman
Sibling Baptised same day was a JOSEPH;
Other Sibling as listed before same Church;
WILLM, 2 Nov 1817
(FreeREG)
Thomas MAGNAY Married Alice WAGGIT, 9 January 1809, All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne
(FreeREG)
Trish :)
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Much appreciated trish ... another question answered :) was told the macnays originated from scotland ..with mc bit you can understand why but I dont know how far ive got to go back...although the further back I do go the further north they are
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Your welcome :)
More Childrens Baptisms this time under MAGNA;
St Peter, Wallsend;
RICHARD, 10 April 1814
ALICE, 3 December 1815
Parents Thomas/Alice, same details as others
Then at St Andrew, Lamesley, Durham;
MAGNAY;
SARAH, 7 July 1836
RALPH, 7 July 1839
Abode Eighton Banks, Fathers Occp Pitman
Boy she was having Children for a lot of years!
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1851 Alice is born c 1786 Wallsend, this may be her given Parents names;
Alice WAGGET Baptised 30 July 1787, St Mary the Virgin, Ovinghamham
Parents RALPH/SARAH
Abode Wylam
Ralph WAGGET married Sarah WESTMORLAND, 18 Feb 1787 same Church
(just made it to the Altar!)
(FreeREG)
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Thankyou so much for your help
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3 years later how family history research time flies by :)
looking for parents of Thomas Macnay born 1785 Wallsend
thankyou
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FreeREG has a possible but St Bartholomew, Tweedmouth;
Thomas MACKNAY 30 Aug 1786 to THOMAS/ALICE
Abode Spittle
Sibling;
EDWARD 2 June 1785
Edward MAGNAY likely married Mary BOWMAN 21 May 1809 Newcastle upon Tyne
1851 Edward appears to be in East Thickley, Durham as Macnay born c 1788 Berwick on Tweed
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Thankyou so much, i would never be able to find this by myself. :-\