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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Peeblesshire => Topic started by: Alanex on Tuesday 13 March 07 19:25 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I've hit a dead end with my Pennycook/Pennycuick family. I have various family born in and around Peebleshire. Anyone have any of these (or similar) names in their tree around this area?
My earliest entry is of a James Pennycuick who married Isabella Stewart. Not sure where either of these were born, but one of their children was born in West Linton, who then had his own children in Tweedsmuir, West Linton and then Broughton.
As you can see a lot of their births were in this area, but James Pennycuick and Isabella Stewart were married in Glencorse, Midlothian.
regards,
Alan.
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hi pal,
see their marriage...
14/5/1837 glencorse
no sign of any children on the igi's... very strange?
do you have children's names to see if we can find them on the census.
Joe
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Hi
theres a James Pennycook living in midlothian working as an AgLab married to a 30 year old Isabella.
They have 4 kids
John aged 6 b.midlothain
James age 3 b. midlothain
Alexander age 1 b. midlothian
and Marion age 7mo " "
probably not yours but worht a try, i will look in 1851 see if i can see them.
caroline
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hmm,
i tried searching for pennyc**k born in peebleshire to see if i could find their kids in 1851 but the only family is of James and Helen, i can't see james and isabella.
how did you find out about the kids births?
if you let us know the names i will look for them on ancestry because there is probably a spelling mistake going on there!
caroline
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hi pal,
believe that this is your family....
1841 census- woolmet, newton, midlothian
james...age 25...farm labourer
isabella...age 30
john...age 6
james...age 3
alexander...age 1
marion pringle...age 7 months
1851 census- rosehill, penicuick, midlothian
james...age 14...farm labourer...born west linton 1837
1861 census- easter hearthstone, tweedsmuir
james...age 21...ploughman
marion carruthers...age 17...servant...born tweedsmuir
on the 7/6/1861 james and marion married in tweedsmuir
pennycook children from the marriage...
janet...born tweedsmuir 30/8/1861
isabella...born west linton 7/3/1863
john...born broughton 23/12/1864
francis...born biggar 26/11/1866
alexander....born currie 8/2/1869
elizabeth...born currie 17/1/1871
jemima...born currie 13/2/1873
william...born currie c1878
1871 census- bankhead, currie, midlothian
james..age 32...farm labourer
marion...age 27
janet...age 9
isabella...age 8
john...age 6
francis...age 4
alexander...age 2
elizabeth...age 2 months
janet shaw...mother-in-law...age 42
if i was you i would search for a death cert for james between 1878-1881, which would confirm exactly who his parents were.
1881 census- warriston road, currie
marion...age 37...farm labourer
janet...age 19...farm labourer
john...age 16...farm labourer
francis...age 14...farm labourer
alexander...age 12
elizabeth...age 10
jemima...age 8
william...age 3
after the census was took marion remarried...she married henry armstrong.
1891 census- belmont road, south park, colinton
henry...age 51...mason's labourer...born ireland
marion..age 47
william pennycook...age 14...stepson...farm labourer
Joe
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hi caroline,
i reckon that is the correct family you found.
Joe
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hi pal,
marion carruthers was the daughter of william and janet shaw, she was christened 16/9/1843 in tweedsmuir.
janet shaw was the daughter of francis and elizabeth stark. she was born 3/2/1821 in skirling peebles. her parents were married on the 10/12/1819 in dolphinton, lanark.
1841 census- tweedshauy, tweedsmuir
francis...age 40...farm labourer
elizabeth..age 50
janet...age 20
james...age 10
john...age 5
1851 census- toll house, tweedsmuir
francis shaw...age 56...toll keeper
elizabeth...age 58
janet...age 30
euphemia...age 25...servant
james...age 20...english teacher
isabella...age 1...granddaughter
marion carruthers...age 7...granddaughter
elizabeth wemyss...age 1 month
Joe
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great news my friend
francis and elizabeth made it past 1855, so this will allow you to get their death certs and you will be able to get back a further generation...
1861 census- bield toll house, tweedsmuir
francis...age 60...labourer...born gordon berwickshire c1801
elizabeth...age 67...born carnwath c1794
euphemia...age 35...domestic servant
isabella...age 11...grand-daughter
elizabeth wemyss...grand-daughter
francis gordon...age 10...grandson
elizabeth gordon...age 6...grand-daughter
1871 census- dumfries road, riggs, tweedsmuir
francis...age 71...labourer
isabella...age 21...grand-daughter...housekeeper
1881 census- dumfries road, riggs
isabella shaw...age 31
francis...age 5
Joe
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well done joe!
my head is all :D trying to work it all out!
caroline
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Hi all,
Thanks for the info, I'll have to double check I have it all.
Here's what I have. I need to double check my sources, but it should be from either ScotlandsPeople or IGI.
JAMES PENNYCUICK born Abt. 1816.
ISABELLA STEWART born Abt. 1811.
Married 14 May 1837 in Glencorse, Midlothian, Scotland
Children:
i. JOHN PENNYCOOK, b. Abt. 1835.
ii. JAMES PENNYCOOK, b. Abt. 1839, West Linton, Peebleshire, Scotland
iii. ALEXANDER PENNYCOOK, b. Abt. 1840.
iv. WILLIAM PENNYCOOK, b. Abt. 1842.
v. ARCHIBALD PENNYCOOK, b. Abt. 1844.
vi. ROBERT PENNYCOOK, b. Abt. 1846.
Still having problems with the parents of JAMES PENNYCUICK born Abt. 1816. Can't seem to find a link to the many Pennycook/Pennycuick families in and around Edinburgh.
Thanks again,
Alan.
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Alan
I have been trying to find a connection between Wm Pennycuick, Thos Lestrange and Ronnie McMillan, whose gravestone is in Condobolin, New South Wales, Australia cemetery.
http://cemindex.arkangles.com/inscription.php?id=1327903
Condobolin cemetery site:
http://cemindex.arkangles.com/inscriptions.php
Also, there are 10 deaths in New South Wales Births Deaths and Marriages:
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm
Any clues?
Jean
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my grandfather was James Pennycook . His mother was Mary Lestrange. He came from Condoblin as far as I know. He had a brother Alexander and a sister Ethel Bonie?. He was born 1872? d 1953 in Hamilton NZ and was married to Sarah Davidson Smyth. He came to NZ to bring the Australian Court to the Exhibition in Christchurch. I'm new at this. Can anyone associate these details with theirs. I have other info
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Following your posting, I have started a new one at
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=377514.new
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All I have is the history of this ersons family. He married my Aunt a Widow Le Breton.
John Mitchell Pennycook
Birth 1901 in Isleworth, London, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom
Death 25 May 1972 in Cammeray, Northern Beaches, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Parents
Charles Hamilton Mitchell Pennycook Born Fife.
1870 – 1915
Frederika Mehetabel Rumsey Johnston Born Wales
1868 – 1937
Their Children all born in England and all but John died England.
George Hamilton Charles Pennycook
1897 – 1967
Henry Mitchell Johnston Pennycook
1898 – 1961
John Mitchell Pennycook
1901 – 1972
Frederick Mitchell Pennycook
1903 – 1978
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See previous post re: Charles Pennycook. His Father Peter and Mother Hamilton Hammilla, Havilla etc nee Mitchell.
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Hi and thanks to those suggestions.
Marion Pennycook married James Hamilton in 1851 in Newbattle. There is no Isabella as suggested and I know for a fact that their kids names were William (died in infancy), James born in 1856 and Helen Porteous born in 1860. For some reason Marion stayed in Scotland when James, James and Helen went to Australia in 1870. Marion worked in a paper mill and as a servant (census shows). But she did die in 1886 at the Inveresk Combination Poorhouse. It is this record and her burial that I am truly seeking. Where did deaths from this institution end up buried? Thanks Karen