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Title: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: SASHAR on Saturday 24 March 07 06:16 GMT (UK)
Looking for any children born to Theodore George August and Augusta Emma Eichler.  They were married 1888 Victoria.
Also if deaths are in Vic.

Have checked SA for births.

Regards,  Sashar

Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: trish251 on Saturday 24 March 07 09:13 GMT (UK)
The marriage is given on the AVRI as

EICHLER, Theodor George Augus   married MILICH Emma Auguste 1888 Vic ref 3885

Children
Herbt Alf                Theodore Geo Au Emma Augusta Milich Horsh 1892 33500
August Edw           Theodore Geo August Emma Augusta Milich Dimboola 1890 12120
Theodor Herbt       Theodore Geo Aug Emma Augusta Milich Horsham 1891 23908
Rubina Gerte         Theodor Geo Aug Emma Augusta Milich Jeparit 1897 11936
Clara Ida                Theodor Geo Aug Agusta Emma Milich Jeparit 1900 11908
Berthold Theodor   Theodor Geo Aug Augusta Emma Melich Dimboola 1889 11680

Trish
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: deeiluka on Saturday 24 March 07 09:24 GMT (UK)
Deaths....

Emma Augusta EICHLER aged 80 died 1946 at DNONG Ref: 20586
Parents: Carl Christian Milich & Johanna Elizth  LEHMANN

Can't see one for her husband.

.....dee

Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: SASHAR on Saturday 24 March 07 09:35 GMT (UK)
Thankyou Trish and Dee,
Great job once again - much appreciated,  Sashar
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: trish251 on Saturday 24 March 07 10:19 GMT (UK)
These were the only other references I could find for the children

Herbt Alfd Eichler married Maria Selma Deckert 1917 6658
Raymond Alfd Eichler born Herbt Alfd Selina Maria Deckert Nhill 1918 29855

Deaths

Herbert Alfred  Theodor Geor   Auguste Emma Milich   Swan 80 1973 2689
August Edward   Theodore       Augusta               Behd 94 1984 29463
Theodor Herbert Theodor Geor   Augusta Emma Milich   Murr 84 1975 15930

Trish
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: SASHAR on Sunday 25 March 07 03:17 BST (UK)
Hi Trish,
Thanks so much for sending further details.  Always nice to get a bit more info.
Kind regards,  Sashar
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 26 March 07 00:23 BST (UK)
hello there Sashar

Can't remeber whether or  not  you  have  this  information but  will  add  it  just in case
JULIE AUGUSTE HENRIE eichler  female
married
JOHANNES REINOLD MILICH male
in 1891/4066

REGARDS JENN
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 26 March 07 00:34 BST (UK)
hello  sashar

a death for you

CLARA IDA ACKERMAN died aged 25 in 1925/5747 at Jeparit
father Theodore Geo Eichler mother Emma Augusta Milich

regards jenn
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: SASHAR on Monday 26 March 07 00:40 BST (UK)
Hi Jenn,
No I didn't have that info - thankyou.

Could you see if there is a marriage for Clara to ACKERMAN
and also the birth of Julie Auguste HENRIE in Vic.

Much appreciated - Sashar
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 26 March 07 00:43 BST (UK)
and also the birth of Julie Auguste HENRIE in Vic.


so sorry  here  should  have added  the  surname  of EICHLER

regards jenn
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: SASHAR on Monday 26 March 07 00:59 BST (UK)
OK Jenn - have sorted that out, thanks - Sashar
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: SASHAR on Saturday 02 June 12 06:04 BST (UK)
Just going through some old reports and realised I still had a few unanswered queries.    Not sure what happened with the last few posts but I am interested in the marriage of Clara Ida Eichler b. 1900 Jeparit to unknown Ackerman (in Victoria?).   Clara's parents Theodore George August and Emma Auguste EICHLER nee Milich.
Clara ACKERMAN died 1925 Jeparit.

Also need the birth details of :-
Julie or Julia, Auguste/a Henrietta EICHLER
Julia m. Johannes Rheinhold MILICH 1891 Victoria.

Maybe she was born o/s but hoping someone could check Vic records for me.

Possible also that the family ended up in New Zealand.

Thanks,
Sashar

Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: majm on Saturday 02 June 12 07:23 BST (UK)

Also need the birth details of :-
Julie or Julia, Auguste/a Henrietta EICHLER
Julia m. Johannes Rheinhold MILICH 1891 Victoria.

Maybe she was born o/s but hoping someone could check Vic records for me.


Hi there,

My online index has
1891 Johannes Reinhold MILICH marriage to Auguste Herriette Julie EICHLER with ref # 1866   Hopefully the mc would give her birth details and her parentage.

Will look further for birth of this bride  :)

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: majm on Saturday 02 June 12 07:27 BST (UK)
Something odd

There’s also in 1891 in Vic another marriage ! and of course a different ref no.

This one is # 4066

Julie Auguste Henrie EICHLER and Reinhold Johannes MILICH

I hope there’s spare pennies to sort out which is which !

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: SASHAR on Saturday 02 June 12 07:34 BST (UK)
Thanks JM - why me ???
My trees never seem simple.

I might check if there is anyone else around searching this family.    It's not a direct line so I don't think I'll be spending any money.
I just like a neat tidy ending - asking the impossible I think  :)

I'll note that on my file though, most interesting,
Sashar
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: cando on Saturday 02 June 12 07:41 BST (UK)
Marriage
MILICH Johannes Reinhold Born Hochkirch
EICHLER Julie Auguste Henriette F born Borra  [Should be Burra]
1891 Reg#4066

Birth
EICHLER Julie Auguste Henrietta Fredericka
Father August Heinrich  Mother August Hermiene BARTHOLOMEW   
At Redruth  27 Dec 1864   Bur 331/34

Cheers
Cando


Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: majm on Saturday 02 June 12 07:43 BST (UK)
Well found CANDO

I had spotted a further mystery circa 1870 - 1872 on NSW BDM births index .... with some late "V" series baptisms that are odd too.  I think you have found the 'right' birth for Sashar

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: SASHAR on Saturday 02 June 12 07:47 BST (UK)
Thanks Cando,

In my own backyard - I was thinking they were in Victoria.
Just checked and  I have another Eichler in this tree, same parents, so Julie's brother also born Burra.
He also married a Milich in Victoria.

Thanks for your help,

Sashar



Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: mariona on Saturday 02 June 12 07:52 BST (UK)
Hi!
Clara Ida Eichler married Frederick George Ackerman
in New Zealand in 1923 #5012
Mariona
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: SASHAR on Saturday 02 June 12 07:53 BST (UK)
Quote
Marriage
MILICH Johannes Reinhold Born Hochkirch
EICHLER Julie Auguste Henriette F born Borra  [Should be Burra]
1891 Reg#4066

Would there possibly be any children born to this couple in Victoria?

Sashar  :)
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: SASHAR on Saturday 02 June 12 07:57 BST (UK)
Hi Mariona,

Wow, thanks for the NZ connection.   Clara must not have stayed long as she died in Victoria.
Just googling around I got the impression some of the family "Milich" may have stayed in NZ.

I wonder if Julie and Johannes MILICH nee Eichler may have ventured there also.

Thanks for your help,
Sashar

Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: mariona on Saturday 02 June 12 08:08 BST (UK)
Yes Julie and Johannes Milich children born in New Zealand
Emma Lydia 1902 # 5604
Bertha Matilda 1904 # 5130
Carl Auguste 1908 # 18410
Mariona
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: SASHAR on Saturday 02 June 12 08:14 BST (UK)
Thanks for finding the births Mariona,

I'm not sure what years you can check for deaths in NZ but would you mind checking for Julie and Johannes MILICH.
Just wondering if they remained in NZ or returned to Australia.

Much appreciated,
Sashar
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: mariona on Saturday 02 June 12 08:20 BST (UK)
Johannes died 1943 # 24492 age 75
Julie died 1946 # 20714 age 81
cheers
Mariona
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: mariona on Saturday 02 June 12 08:31 BST (UK)
Sorry should have said they died New Zealand
Mariona
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: cando on Saturday 02 June 12 08:32 BST (UK)
Some of the family ended up in my neck of the woods.

I can't find a marriage for Clara Ida to an ACKERMAN.  

Death
EICHLER Augusta
Father August BARTHOLOMEWS August  Mother Henrette RATT
At Sea Lake   77 years  1916  Reg#12205


Cando
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: SASHAR on Saturday 02 June 12 08:35 BST (UK)
Thanks again Mariona.   It seems that branch of the family may have settled in New Zealand.
Is it possible to find anything further for the Milich children Emma b. 1902, Bertha b. 1904 and Carl b. 1908?   Possible marriages, children, deaths etc?

Back to the EICHLER branch and possibly in Victoria, could I have a check for the deaths of:-
Theodor George August EICHLER born 1862 SA (wife of Emma Auguste Milich).
and their eldest son:-
Berthold Theodore EICHLER born 1889 Victoria.

Everyone's help has been great,
Thanks,
Sashar   :)

Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: cando on Saturday 02 June 12 08:41 BST (UK)
Quote
Marriage
MILICH Johannes Reinhold Born Hochkirch
EICHLER Julie Auguste Henriette F born Borra  [Should be Burra]
1891 Reg#4066

Would there possibly be any children born to this couple in Victoria?

Sashar  :)

MILICH Alma Julia
Father Johannes Reinho  Mothe: Julia Hetta Fried EICHLER
At Dimboola  1892  Reg#12728

MILICH Marie Louisa
Father Johannes  Mother Julia EICHLER
At Dimboola  1894  Reg#20026

MILICH Geo Bernhard
Father Johannes Bernhard  Mother Julie EICHLER
At Dimbool  1899  Reg#9889

Cando

Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: SASHAR on Saturday 02 June 12 08:46 BST (UK)
Hi Cando,
Yes this family is all over the place.

Mariona found the marriage of Clara in NZ
Quote
Clara Ida Eichler married Frederick George Ackerman
in New Zealand in 1923 #5012
Mariona

Clara died in 1925 in Victoria so she didn't stay too long in NZ.  Not sure if Frederick George ACKERMAN was NZ or AUST born.

Quote
Death
EICHLER Augusta
Father August BARTHOLOMEWS August  Mother Henrette RATT
At Sea Lake   77 years  1916  Reg#12205

Having trouble sorting where the death above belongs.   That would be Augusta EICHLER nee BARTHOLOMEWS.   Her father August and mother Henrette BARTHOLOMEWS nee RATT.
Have I got that right?

Thanks for the other Milich births Cando.

Sashar   :)

Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: cando on Saturday 02 June 12 08:52 BST (UK)

Thanks again Mariona.   It seems that branch of the family may have settled in New Zealand.
Is it possible to find anything further for the Milich children Emma b. 1902, Bertha b. 1904 and Carl b. 1908?   Possible marriages, children, deaths etc?

Back to the EICHLER branch and possibly in Victoria, could I have a check for the deaths of:-
Theodor George August EICHLER born 1862 SA (wife of Emma Auguste Milich).
and their eldest son:-
Berthold Theodore EICHLER born 1889 Victoria.

Everyone's help has been great,
Thanks,
Sashar   :)


Sashar you may find this link helpful  :)
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/

Wonder if this is your EICHLER born c1862

EICHLER Gustav
Parents unknown
At Nhill  38 years  1899  Reg#10769

Will try and find their son later...evening meal needs attention.

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: SASHAR on Saturday 02 June 12 09:00 BST (UK)
Thanks Cando,
I will try that NZ link, thankyou.

Quite possibly that is my Eichler.   He was August but probably known as Gus.    Could have been a guess by person recording the death that he was Gustav.

I will have lots to double check on TROVE now.  ;)

Tummy rumblings here as well.

Thanks for everyone's help, much more info than I expected.

Sashar  :D
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: SASHAR on Sunday 03 June 12 06:33 BST (UK)
To save anyone searching further - I have found leads on the NZ site that Cando recommended.   They in turn have led me to find lots more information on the Eichler and Milich families in New Zealand including War Records, Family Histories and even a marriage in the UK.

I'm pretty sure Berthold Theodore Eichler's death would be in NZ.   He married there in 1922 and had 12 children.   Hopefully he lived to a ripe old age and that is why a more recent death record cannot be found.   NZ deaths finish 1962.

The family along with other relatives, moved to NZ in 1901.

I'll continue searching the net and get back if I need anything specific.

Thankyou all for your help tracing this family over such a vast area.

Regards,
Sashar  :)



Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: cando on Sunday 03 June 12 08:58 BST (UK)
Good Sashar as I couldn't find anythere in Aus.

Cando
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: mariona on Monday 04 June 12 02:46 BST (UK)
Hi Sasha
Berthold Theodore Eichler died age 84 on 28/11/1973 and buried 30/11/1973. He is buried at Hamilton Park Cemetery NZ
in section RSA-09-096
Mariona
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: SASHAR on Monday 04 June 12 05:13 BST (UK)
Thanks Mariona,

I'm not very cluey on NZ places so that has saved me quite a lot of searching time.

I see Bert's wife and daughter are also buried there as well as Julia Milich.

Your help is much appreciated,
Sashar  :)

Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: Jus? Dan on Friday 22 June 18 12:22 BST (UK)
How are you both so I'm reading this and am really curious how far back I can track my family. I'm the great grandson of berthold Theodore eichler. My grandad is Roger 1 of his 12 children. My mother is shona eichler. Please let me know if there is something more to know
Title: Re: EICHLER Vic records
Post by: wivenhoe on Friday 22 June 18 13:00 BST (UK)
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx
the...RecordSearch…...Eichler...….

to find -
Auguste EICHLER   naturalisation...…...links to image of this document...application at 1914

Auguste is widow, 5 children dead, 5 boys 3 girls living...….etc