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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Mayo => Topic started by: Diski on Sunday 08 April 07 03:19 BST (UK)
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If anyone has Crossmolina Parish, Co Mayo ancestors, I would be happy to look them up in my databases
I have the Tithe-ca 1833, Griffiths Val 1856, 1901 and 1911 census, The Crossmolina Chrush Register #1279204, plus lots miscallaneous info.
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PLEASE Please please...
give as much detail as possible, as the church film is in very bad shape and difficult to interpret. There are several years missing. It ranges from 1832-1880, but is particularly difficult to read in the very beginnng years, and the last years there are very few entries.
I have the data base broken down into column headings:
Month, day,year, childs name, fathers first name, fathers last name, mothers first name, mothers last name, residence, and notes. Under notes, I put in email addresses or researchers additional info that I have collected, surname varients, if they emigrated, who they married, ect.
I can sort the database by each column, using what ever info you have given me.
Helpful or nessasary info includes:
You must at least know they are from Co mayo, and better still from Crossmolina. I will do a only general search if you are unsure.
Date or time frame, ie 1840-45.
Parents names- first and or last if possible.That includes wife or mother. (If I have only a last name of the father and the wifes first and or last- it may be enough to make a connection.
Siblings related to the lookup you are requesting. (If I couldn't read a name in the reg, I may find a sibling in the register)
Any surnames related to the family while living in Crossmolina- it could be a witness who may be a relative.
Any spelling varients that you have seen the name under- ie Byron Berrane Birrane Barran...
If the childs name is Bridget, but goes by the name of Bessie or Delia, ect.
If you are lucky enough to have a residence, please share it!
If you have grandparents names- it may help me find info to additional family.
Date they left Ireland- I don't want to be looking for families in 1870 if they emigrated in 1847.
Do you know if the parents married in Ireland? Date please-even a guess.
Please be patient- i do get busy! Put in Crossmolina Lookup in subject line- it will not be noticed without that. This is a new site to me, so I do hope that I am 'alerted' when someone responds to this offer. Otherwise I may forget to return here to check for requests. :-\
Diane Sweeney Groman
Researching BYRON CONNOR DOOHER SWEENEY BARRETT and many more from the area of Crossmolina, Moygawnagh, Killala...
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Welcome to RootsChat, Diane, and thanks for a great offer. I'll have a sort through the Irish relatives and see what I need checking.
Monica
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As Monica said, welcome to Rootschat. And thanks for such a generous offer. It's people like you who have found me so many relatives. ;D
Kath
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Thank you ladies, for welcoming me!
Its because of volunteers that we make any headway at all, in my opinion. I am so thankful that I got the genealogy bug when the internet became so popular- I dispise writting letters!
I made my Crossmolina Sweeney Connections thanks to the internet and all the genealogy Bullatin Boards, I encourage everyone to use them. What a GIFT they have been to me. I posted my names in the states my ancestors lived in when they emigrated, posted them in Ireland community websites, and everywhere else I could.
What a thrill it is to walk the same l;and that my Sweeneys farmed in the 1800s, and to meet and talk to new found relatives- still living on the same land today! The original house is now used as a storage shed or barn, with the cornerstone reading 1805. Awesome indeed to touch that stone, I hope every single one of you Mayo decendents get to do that very same thing!
Good luck to you,
Diane Sweeney Groman
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Magnificent. I am longing for the day that I can go to Ireland and England to walk the walk. I always get choked up when I hold documents or pictures that my ancestors held, or go to the actual grave, or see a home they lived in.
I too have queries on all the boards I could find. I forget where they are and I forget passwords to get on to some of them. I started before the Internet and it wasn't easy. What a difference the Internet makes.
I have ancestors who were in Doocastle in Mayo. As far as I know, so far, that is my only Mayo connection.
See you around the boards.
Kath
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How nice of you to offer to do this!
I know the following:
From the 1901 Crossmolina census, living in townland Lackalustraun 2 were my grandfather Thomas O'Boyle (b. 1868), his wife Delia Lavelle (b. 1871), my great-grandmother Catherine O'Boyle (married name) (b. 1841).
Would your database information provide any of the following?
- father of Thomas O'Boyle
- Catherine's maiden name
- parents of Delia Lavelle and any related info
- marriage information for Thomas and Delia
Thank you again for any information you can provide.
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Hello Bobwst
In case you don't have the 1911 census:
1911 Lacklustraun:
Tho OBoyle Head 55 m
Delia OBoyle Wife 45 m
Martin OBoyle Son 13 s
Michael OBoyle Son 11 s
Mary OBoyle Dtr 9 s
Kate OBoyle Dtr 7 s
Delia OBoyle Dtr 5 s
Julia OBoyle Dtr 3 s
ellen OBoyle Dtr 1 s
Kate OBoyle Mother 80 w
Oboyle:
1850 64 Nov Francis Mich OBoyle Cath Fergus
1854 73 May Pat Mich OBoyle Cath Fergus
1863 110b Feb ? Mich OBoyle Cath Fergus
1865 115b June Mich Mich OBoyle Cath Fergus
1867 124a Dec Tho Mich OBoyle Cath Fergus
1870 136a April Ann Mich OBoyle Cath Fergus
1875 165a August Cath Mich OBoyle Cath Fergus
1856 81a June Celia Mich OBoyle Cath Fergus
1858 89b July Edw Mich OBoyle Cath Fergus
1860 99a Oct Mary Mich OBoyle Cath Fergus
Levelle Info:
1869 134a Nov Bridget Mich Lavelle Barb Merrick
1872 146b March Mary Mich Lavelle Barb Merrick
1874 157b April John Mich Lavelle Barb Merrick
1876 170b Oct ? Mich Lavelle Barb Merrick
1879 184b May Eleanor Mich Lavelle Barb Roche?
1869 None Jan MARR Mich Lavelle Barb Merrick
Notes:
All children born to Barb Merrick were from Letterbrick.
The child born to Barb Roche? was from Tawnakeel.
Delia is a derivative of Bridget
Ignore the middle column.
? means name was unreadable.
Please remember there are many names that are missing or unreadable-this is a list of name that I could decipher. Plenty of room for error, so you may want to check the film out yourself- 1279204.
In Griffiths Valuaton done in ca 1856, there were 2 Patrick O'Boyles and 1 Francis OBoyle. No Fergus families in the townland.
There was a Patrick Lavelle in Letterbrick, and a Michael Lavelle in Tawnakeel
Have no marriage info for Tho & Delia- database stop 1880ish.
Not sure if you subscribe to the Mayo list- there are several people researching the OBoyles in Crossmolina-myself included. You might want to post your names there- Im sure you'll get several inquiries.
Hope this is the right info for you!
Diane Sweeney Groman
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Thank you, Diane,
Such a quick and helpful response! I am new at this and you make it look so easy.
Thanks again.
Bob Webster
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Hello, I was hoping you could look up O'Boyles in Crossmolina. The father was solomon O'Boyle who married his wife Mary Judge about 1845 or so. They had a son named John who married a girl named Anne quinn. Her father may have been a Peter Quinn. I hope you could help me. Bob
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Hi does this include Ballina please?
I wouldlove the Marriage of ..
Ellen Rowlands and Thomas Ruane of Cominch and parents of them if possible.
Husbands G Father was
Hugh Ruane of Cominch Feb 1877 one younger sister called Anne but older one's are known of,
Thanks so much for the kind offer.
Sue x
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Hi Dianne,Thanks for shareing you information.I have people in Ballysakerry but they are not easy to find and someone told me to try Crossmolina.The name is Samuel Aikins/Ekins,he married Elizabeth Birch around 1800/1812,his son James was born 1812 he married Catherine Little around 1829 as there son James born 1830Tey shifted to Scotland around 1843 there were other children ive found on thecencus,Hannah 1833,Ann,1837,Betsy 1841,Margaret 1843.Im pretty sure Samuel stayed in Mayo.I would be very grateful for your help or contacts you may have Thanks Osca.
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I have an ancester Named Michael Rourke and his wife Mary Unknown who are listed as living at Barrackhill Newport Mayo in the Griffin. One of his sons was named William Rourke who lived in Crossmolina. Do you have any records of Rourke/O'Rourke with marriage or baptism or death records in Crossmolina. Michael Rourke was born 1800, Willaim was born 1830 Approx. Other children of Michael were John, Patrick,Edward. Would like to know others named such as sponsors or parents if any.
Thanks
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Hi, Diane
What a wonderful offer, I nearly jumped with joy when I saw it. I have an ancestor who hails from Crossmollina her name is Barbara Langhan (langan) born circa 1822 to John a stonemason and his wife Nancy - I have no other information for John and Nancy. Barbara married in England in 1853, she was at this point a widow with the surname Sweeney. Given that at this marriage J & N are listed as still in Ireland (although if they are indeed still alive at this point is another question) we are assuming (I know!!!) that she came to England with her first husband Mr Sweeney and that they married in Crossmollina - I can find no record of her life here before her second marriage but there is no evidence of any children from it on subsequent documents. I can find no record of her first husbands given name.
Thank you in anticipation.
Diane (also with just the one n!)
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Diane, Hi
I just reread your original post and noticed that you also have the name Sweeney - spooky or what seeing as we have the same given name! However, I am no blood relation (as far as I know) to the Sweeneys. Other Irish branches are Durcan/Durkin from Sligo and Mulhearn/Brogan with at least one birth given as Queenstown, which was a bit of a puzzle!
Diane
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To Sue Bristol
1858 January Marriage of Thomas Ruane and Eleanor Rowland, of Derra.
1859 Jan Can't read
1860 Nov Mary
1862 Dec Ellen?
1864 Can't Read
1866 May, Cant Read
1868 June Cant Read
1870 Nov Margaret
1873 May Mary
1875 Oct Catherine
1879 July Honor
All christenings took place in Cominch, Crossmolina Parish in the District of Ballina.
I am not clear what your saying abt Hugh?
Hope that helps,
Diane Sweeney Groman
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Thanks so much for your very generous offer! It is through the kindness of people like you that I have found that my Corcorans came from Crossmolina Parish, Co. Mayo. Unfortunately, they started to immigrate to the Province of Quebec in Canada around 1817, and from there successive generations migrated to other parts of Canada and the US. Your records don't cover that period, but I will post what I do know in the hope that somebody from the same line might see it. I expect that some family members stayed behind in Ireland. In particular, there was a son named Matt who studied at Apothecary Hall and worked at a pharmacy in Castlebar in the early 1800s.
Several of my Corcorans worked for the Hudson Bay Company in Canada starting in 1817.
I have an unknown Corcoran male born around 1725. He had two sons, Edward and John. I believe that Edward immigrated to the US. John was born around 1755 and married Bridget Edwards. Their known children born in Ireland are:
Bridget, who married Walter Burke
Richard (b. 1775), who married Margaret Nash
James (b. 1778), who married Bridget (b. 1791). These are my GGGG Grandparents.
Patrick (b. 1787), who married Genvieve Gagnon in Canada
Elizabeth (b. 1788), who married Michael Rowan (b. 1778) - several children born in Ireland
John (b. 1791)
Thomas (b. 1794), who married Charlotte Sophia Sutherland (b. 1799) in Canada
Edward (b. 1799), who married Julia Cassidy (b. 1807) in Canada
James and Bridget had the following children born in Ireland:
Mary (b. 1808)
John (b. 1811)
Luke (b. 1812)
Elizabeth (b. 1817)
Bridget (b. 1825)
Successive children of James and Bridget were born in Canada - Annie, Marie and James.
Can anybody tell me what villages comprised Crossmolina Parish in the late 1700s?
I would love to hear from anybody connected to this family and would be happy to share any information that I have.
Nicole
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Hi Dianne,Thanks for shareing you information.I have people in Ballysakerry but they are not easy to find and someone told me to try Crossmolina.The name is Samuel Aikins/Ekins,he married Elizabeth Birch around 1800/1812,his son James was born 1812 he married Catherine Little around 1829 as there son James born 1830Tey shifted to Scotland around 1843 there were other children ive found on thecencus,Hannah 1833,Ann,1837,Betsy 1841,Margaret 1843.Im pretty sure Samuel stayed in Mayo.I would be very grateful for your help or contacts you may have Thanks Osca.
Hi Osca, I am very sorry its taken so very long to get back to you- computer problems, vacations, new computer adjustments...
So, I have looked in my Catholic records and found NONE.
But I do have Church of Ireland records for Crossmolina that show several Erwin Ekin ect, but none with any of the given names you gave me. The film I got this from is from LDS # 897365- I only copied the Crossmolina records but most likely there are many other parishes on the reel.
Sorry I couldnt help!
Diski
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Hi Diski,Thanks for the reply and although we found nothing,thank you for looking for me.I will continue to try to find them.Osca
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Hello Diski,
I wonder if you could help me find my 2xgreat grandparents, they were from Co.Mayo but don't know what parish.
John McEllin and his wife Margaret.
They were living in Staffordshire in 1843 as their first child was born there.
He was a Rag and Bone man by trade.
Thank you for your kind offer hope you are successful.
Ange.
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Hi Ange,
The surname is not found in Crossmolina at all.
I have 2 books byMacLynsaht on surname origins, and it apparently is a Roscommon name originally A synonym of the name is McAllen and other spelling varients of such- Allyn Allan Allin...you might see what the other spellings bring up.
You might also want to look at Griffiths Valuation to see where in Mayo it turns up' Do a google search to find the site for Griffiths Valuation search on line.
Good luck to you.
Hello Diski,
I wonder if you could help me find my 2xgreat grandparents, they were from Co.Mayo but don't know what parish.
John McEllin and his wife Margaret.
They were living in Staffordshire in 1843 as their first child was born there.
He was a Rag and Bone man by trade.
Thank you for your kind offer hope you are successful.
Ange.
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Hi Diski
Not used boards before so I hope this finds you OK!
Your offer is extremely generous and of great interest to me. I wonder if you could add to that i have collected to date?
Mother-in-law has a grandfather gone missing (family Skeleton?). I've done what I can and think I have traced his birth and that of a sister they never knew he had. I am trying to get as much as I can before having to come over to search locally.
Person of interest Duncan William Ferguson b. 28 Dec 1864 to Murdoch(k) Ferguson and Sarah Whitty (Whitby) Crossmolina
if we can get more on Father would be good but also sister who may have died young:
Elizabeth Ferguson b. 13 Nov 1866 Crossmolina.
Think Murdock(h) was gardener.
DW Ferguson married in Belfast 1893 to Martha McRoberts
Many thanks in anticipation.
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Hi there,
I only have ONE Ferguson:
Jun 1 1838 John, born to Patrick Ferguson and Catherine Corcoran, residence is Crossmolina town. Witness were Alex ?? and Sarah Barrett
I had NO Whittly or Whittby or McRoberts surnames either. No Murdock or Duncans either.
Personally, the Whittby sounds like a Church or Ireland name. If you already KNOW they came from Crossmolina, I would look into other denominations such as the Church of Ireland records. I have Church of Ireland, but only a few and they are for early 1800s. I have no McRoberts, Whitby ect, and one Ferguson for COI:
Sept 13 1814, Marriage of Francis Ferguson and Sarah Huston of Ballina and Stonehall (Foxford Parish?).
The fact that they married in Belfast also suggests COI roots, not catholic. Of coarse, I could be wrong, but thats where I would be looking.
The Crossmolina DISTRICT, which is what is frequently seen in the Indexes, does not mean they were born in the Parish or town of Crossmolina-the district covers several parishes. Church of Ireland districts are no the same as the Roman Cath districts either!
The North Mayo site may have other church records-or more complete catholic records than what I have-for a fee they will do a search of there computerised records. Might be worth it to have them do a search for one of them-hopefully it with show what parishes they came from, and that will help you in your future research.
Good Luck Ali!
http://mayo.irish-roots.net/
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Thank for your efforts Diski.
where I found a tenuous link was at the following URL and it possibly led me astray - i'll keep looking.
Thanks again
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~colin/FergusonsOfIreland/Mayo.htm
Ali.
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I know the author Joe from our frequent exchanges of information on our individual families- his work is excellent and trustworthy.
Since I dont see where it states his sources, it could be from the Birth records from Civil Registration, or from the CD of Index of Births for the years covering 1864-1867 in Ireland. I suspect that his list is from the Index of births, which is not limited to Catholics only, as one would expect in a Catholic Church Register. I'm fairly certain his reference to Crossmolina means the Registration DISTRICT of Crossmolina, not the parish itself.
Try this link for a map of the Civil parishes are, and search the surrounding parishes to find your Fergusons. http://www.connorsgenealogy.net/Mayo/mayocp.html
Diane
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Hi Diane,
Thanks for your offer to look up records for Crossmolina. I believe my great,great,great grandmother, Jane Corcoran was born in Crossmolina in 1820. She married John Fleming, and when he died, moved with her three children to the US. They were Roman Catholic. The children's names were: Anthony, John, and Mary (who married John Glynn from Galway.)
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Hi Samiie,
You didn't specify what records you are requesting-Janes birth, the childrens births?, marriage info??
As I stated in my original post, I dont want to waste my time giving you information you already HAVE. I want to give you NEW info that will benefit you.
So clarify for me please,
Thanks, Diane
PS- When did John Flemming die? Do you know the townland by chance? Never hurts to ask :D
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The information I have on this family is very limited.
Birth of Jane Corcoran b. 1820, possibly in Crossmolina.
Birth of John Fleming b. about 1820, possibly in Crossmolina.
Marriage of John and Jane in Crossmolina. Blacksmith
Birth of Anthony Fleming b. Dec. 1842. Emigrated to USA in 1861 or 1865.
Birth of Mary Fleming May 1852. (d.o.b. varies from 1840 to 1852 in various documents)
Birth of John Fleming, son, date unknown.
I do not know when John (senior) died or where.
Thanks again for your efforts.
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Hi Samiie,
I have the following for you:
Marriage of John Flemming and JEAN Corcoran in 1833. Residence was Enaghbeg.
Son, John born 12 Aug 1833. Witnesses were William Flemming and Betty Gultry/Godfrey.
A child born (couldn't read the name) abt Sept 24 1846. One column was cut off so the birth or christening could be the date given here. Male witness could not be read, female witness was Mary Flemming.
In 1833, the Tithe has a James, William and John Flemming in seperate homes in EnaghMORE, under subdivision called Dublin. There is also a holding under Enaghmore called Corkron (Corcoran varient) Holding, although there were no Corkron or Corcorans (or Flemmings) on the land! Enaghbeg South had a Patrick Flemming.
I am in the very slow process of trying to correct errors and add missing info in the database, but it is very slow going. You can request again in a few months to see if I have moore for you- seems like there should be more children born to them by.
Diane
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Thank you, Diane, for looking up the Fleming/Corcoran families. 1833 seems a little early for my Jane Corcoran/John Fleming marriage. Census records in the US indicate Jane was born in 1820. If it is Jane, can you tell which church this wedding took place in? I am assuming the children were baptized in the same church.
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It would be called St Tiernans I believe. The film does not state the church. Also, there were "chapels" that could have been filmed together in the PARISH of Crossmolina film. There is a church in Crossmolina that is called St Tiernan today, but the original one was either replaced, or repaired. I was there for my Sweeney reunion in 2005 and is very beautiful with lots of stained glass. If you do a google search you should find a photo on line of the present day church.
In 1820, there was no catholic church since it was illegal/against the law to be catholic. Catholic Emancipation occured abt 1833, and thats when the churches were being built. There are no Catholic records before 1830-baptisms and marriages were done on the sly.
As for birth years and ages, as well as spellings of surnames and townland,you should be very open minded. Even in 1911 the ages were 10 years off! They had no reason to know the actual birthdate until the 1900s when the Old Age Pension was put into effect. Sometimes they would hide there age for various reasons as well.
Admittedly, being a 13 yr old bride is a bit young, but if she became pregnant prior to marriage- they would have married. The age was most likely a guestimate so its likely she was 15 or so.
Diane/Diski
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Dear Diski, what a wonderful offer and welcome to RootsChat!! My maternal grandmother's family are I understand from Co. Mayo and you may be able to help. Robert Loftus (Lofthouse), born circa. 1827. was the father of my G/Grand Dad (Thomas Loftus), born 1849. The following info. is gleaned from Griffiths: County: Mayo
Barony: Gallen
Union: Swineford
Parish: Killaser
Townland: Cuillowaghtan
I am keenly trying to suss out when Robert got married and to whom!! Any help at all would be greatly appreciated!! Bill
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Sorry Bill, but my offer is only for Crossmolina Parish in Co Mayo- I dont have registers for the other parishes. You can go to the Genforum or Rootsweb web site and look thru messages that might relate to your area of Mayo. The Co Mayo rootsweb has a great many baptisms on line from a good variety of southwest Mayo, Castlebar area.
You can also go to the Surname lists and post your names there-you would be surprised at the number of responses you will get with a good query!
Unfortunately 1827 is very early for catholic church records- most of the catholic registers didn't even start until aft 1830. You would be lucky indeed if they were COI (there registers started much earlier than Catholic)!
Good luck Bill,
Diski
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Dear Diski,
Please allow me to send a quick thank you, a) for responding so quickly and directly and b) for giving me some other ideas in the search for my G/G/GF in Mayo.
Many thanks!!
Bill
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Hi does this include Ballina please?
I wouldlove the Marriage of ..
Ellen Rowlands and Thomas Ruane of Cominch and parents of them if possible.
Husbands G Father was
Hugh Ruane of Cominch Feb 1877 one younger sister called Anne but older one's are known of,
Thanks so much for the kind offer.
Sue x
Sue, Ellen Rowland and Thomas Ruane of Cominch are my great grandparents. They were married February 14, 1858. Here are the births of their children. Ellen Ruane, born in 1862, was my grandmother.
Bridget 14 January 1859 Bridget married William Flynn 2-6-1883.
Mary November 1860
Ellen December 1862 Ellen immigrated to the USA in either
1885 or 1886. She married Charles C Chambers 31 January
1889 in Chicago Illinois.
Patrick 28 February 1864 Patrick died 12 July 1892 aged 24 years.
He died of Tuberculosis just a short time/2 mo. after he
immigtated to Charles and Ellen (Ruane) Chambers. Funeral
from his sisters home Mrs Charles Chambers 95 East Huron
St,Chicago to The Holy Name Cathedral to Calvery Cemetary
in Chicago.
Winifred May 1866 Winifred married John Moyles 12-4-1897.
Thomas 25 June 1868. Thomas married Bridget Naughton and their descendents still own the farm in
Cominch.
Margaret 6 November 1870
Mary May 1873 Mary married Thomas Walshe 24-3-1895
Cathrine 3 October 1875 (I think she was known as Celia)
Hugh 14 february 1877
Honor 27 July 1879
Ann I am not sure of her birth date. I think it was about 1881.
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Hello Diski, Thanks for your kind offer. I really really appreciate it. I hope I have enough information to help you search.
I'm looking for information on John Caregan who was born in Crossmolina around 1822 plus or minus. More specifically he was from Tawnakeel or Toonakeel. Is that part of Crossmolina or is it separate? He had at least one child, Bridget who was born in Crossmolina in 1842. Bridget may have changed her name to Corrigan. She was later married to John J Staunton or Stanton on 16 Feb 1864.
I'm also looking for information on Patt Staunton who was born around 1820 or so. He was born in Barycostello, which I believe is also in or near Crossmolina. He had at least one child who was John J Staunton or Stanton who was born in 1843 I believe in Crossmolina.
I would really like to learn the names of their wives and marriage dates.
Again, Thank you. Jim Robson
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Hi Jim,
Tawnakeel is a townland in Crossmolina Parish.
I have no Caregan entries, most are Corrigan/Currigan. The person who entered the names into the Church register wrote the names as he heard it, and there is a wide variety of creative spellings for surnames in any parish register. So, the name Caregan and Currigan are the same name, it was not changed. The same registrar could have spelled the same name any number of ways- its amazing how creative they were!
Specifically those in the Tawnakeel townland was a Pat Corrigan and Mary Clarke, (Clark, Clerk...) but at a later date than your are looking for. There was no Tawnakeel listed in 1833 Tithe, but in the Griffiths Valuation (1850) there was a Patrick Corrigan mentioned in Tawnakeel.
YEAR MONTH CHILD FATHER SURNAME MOTHER SURNAME RESIDENCE
1854 June John Pat Corrigan Mary Clarke Tubrid
1862 June Mich Pat Corrigan Mary Clarke Tawnakeel
1863 July Martin Pat Corrigan Mary Clarke Cloonkelly
1868 April Br Pat Corrigan Mary Clarke Tawnakeel
1856 11-May Peter Pat Corrigan Mary Clarke Tawnakeel
1860 Feb Pat Pat Corrigan Mary Clarke
1853 6-Feb MARRIAGE Pat Corrigan Mary Clarke
Early Corrigan couples that may possibly be parents to your John :
John Corrigan and Mary Dooher? had William in 1841. I couldnt read the townland.
Pat Corrigan and Catherine Loftus of Letterbrick. They had Patrick in 1846 and Martin in 1850. A Peter age 19 and Patrick age 11, both of Townakeel, attended Letterbrick School in 1873.
Bryan Corrigan and Jane Bourke of Enaghbeg- they had several children, including one in 1845 whose name I could not read. Bryan was living in Enaghbeg in 1833 Tithe records.
Here are all the Corrigan families listed in the Griffith Valuation:
CARROWKEEL Bryan Corrigan
CARROWKEEL Daniel Corrigan
COOLNABINNIA Anthony Corrigan
ENAGH BEG Mary Corrigan
TAWNAKEEL Thomas Corrigan
On to the Stanton/Staunton info:
We have no townland called Barycostello, but we do have a Rathnacostello.
There were not many Stanton/Staunton christenings or marriages in Crossmolina:
1864 16-Feb MARRIAGE John Stanton Bridget Corrigan Rathnacostello
1854 Sept Laughlin Malachy Stanton Mary Barrett
1863 Oct Malachy Malachy Stanton Mary Barrett
1856 30-Dec Wm Laughlin Stanton Mary Barrett Shipe (Killeen)
There were no Stantons in 1833 when the Tithe was done. In 1856 Griffiths Valuation has in Killeen "Tenents of Stanton" but no given name for this person. There were no other Stauntons listed in all of the parish.
Thats all I have for now Jim. Please be aware that the register is difficult to read-pages missing, torn, faded, unreadable, and I may have interpreted the written words wrong, and even though I did the best I could, there are errors. The film is 1279204 from the FHC-you should look at it yourself.
Diane
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Hi Diane, Thank you for all your hard work. That must have taken hours. I appreciate it.
Thank you also for the teaching as you went along.
You confirmed the marriage date of John and Bridget and raised new information about Rathnacostello, which heretofore was unknown to me.
You also provided much other information which someday may fall into place like pieces to a puzzle.
Thanks for the film number. Can you give me a URL to the FHC? I've gone through the links in the beginners section but don't seem to find it. I will definitely look it up.
And lastly... Thank you!!! :)
Best regards, Jim Robson
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The Family History Center Library link is:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhl/frameset_library.asp?PAGE=library_collection.asp
There is a great deal of info on this site, and lots of records are free.
Tawnakeel, as I mentioned, was not listed as a townland in 1833 so it must have been under another townland prior to that time. If you have a lot of research i Crossmolina Parish, I recommend Tony Donohoe's book "History of Crossmolina". Very informative, but not well indexed.
Let me know if you have other questions or names to lookup,
Diane
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Good Morning,
This is my first attempt to find additional information about my grandfather, Francis O'Boyle who was cited in the 1901 Mayo census, age 40. What I have found thusfar from the 1901 census is:
Francis O'Boyle was married to Mary McLoughlin, age 30.
They had the following children born between 1893 and 1901: James, Patrick, Hugh and my father Michael O'Boyle [who was born in 1901].
My father knew little of his father, Francis, because he died in 1902. My father believes that Francis emigrated to the United States in the 1800's and returned to Mayo where he bought a farm in or near Corvoderry, Moygawnagh, Mayo Ireland where he lived with his children until his death. Sometime after 1902, the family moved into Crossmolina. My father, Michael emigrated to New York City in 1927.
Much thanks in advance if you can help fill the gaps in our family history.
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Hello Johno
I have your Oboyle family in Corvoderry for 1911, but only have heads of house:
Ed McLaughlin
Mich McLaughlin
Fr O'Boyle
Owen O'Boyle, Jr
Owen O'Boyle, Sr
Jas O'Boyle
Neil O'Boyle
Cath McLaughlin
Jas McLaughlin
Wm Hopkins
Mich McDonald, Jr
Mich McDonald, Sr
Unfortunately I have no christening for Moygawnagh or for the time frame. My records for marriage and christenings are Crossmolina cover basically 1835-1880.
However, Oboyle is a popular name and there are several people that are actively researching a FRANCIS OBoyle in Crossmolina. I highly recommend posting your info on the rootsweb Co Mayo site to find those that are active in researching. Be sure to check the archives for old posts because there has been quite a bit of activity for Francis OBoyle. Here are the Francis Oboyle that were born in Crossmolina-remember there are a lot of names that I could not read, or pages missing from the register so its not complete. If you can get the name of Francis father, and if they have Crossmolina connections I can probably help you.
Diane
What townland were they living in when they went to Crossmolina?
1850 30-Nov Fr Mich OBoyle Cath Mary Fergus Loch- Pat Flemming Mary Oboyle
1874 Jan Fr John OBoyle Cath Lynn Lean
1874 July Fr Fr OBoyle Cath Gill Rathmore Robt Gill Mary Cafferkty
1879 August 14 Fr Owen OBoyle Mary Hefferan Jn Hefferan Msr? Hefferan
1857 12-Jul Fr Pat OBoyle Br Rowland Lacklustraun Pat Hogan Honor Rowland
1874 15 jul Fr Mich OBoyle Cath Gill
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Hi I wonder if you can help.
My great grandfather's birth cert states that he was born in Crossmolina on the 3/11/1874 - baptised in Killala
Name: Martin Lamond - we now the name as Lammond
I have not seen the certificate but it apparently states father as John Lamond and mother as Anne Browne.
Is there any records you have relating to the name Lamond as I don't seem to be having much luck..
Thank you
Caroline
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Hi Caroline,
Oddly, I can find NO Lammond in the register, even though I see 2 Lammond living in Toureen when Griffiths Valuation took place ca 1855ish. They were:
John Lammond
David Lammond
I look in the IGI for varients and couldn't find those either.
I also looked under mothers or wives named Brown/e with no close matches. The register I have is Catholic christening and marriages only.
Was your Lammond Catholic? Was there a townland mentioned?
Its possible that he was born in the Crossmolina DISTRICT and not the parish of Crossmolina. That would entail other parishes which I don't have.
Sorry I don't have more for you Caroline,
Diski
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Thank you so much for looking... It is such an unusuall name that I am betting that the John Lammond in Toureen must be his father..
Staunch Catholic - Martin had 12 children including my Grandad David Lammond all brought up Catholic.
Thank you so much
Caroline
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Hi I wonder if you can help.
My great grandfather's birth cert states that he was born in Crossmolina on the 3/11/1874 - baptised in Killala
Name: Martin Lamond - we now the name as Lammond
I have not seen the certificate but it apparently states father as John Lamond and mother as Anne Browne.
Is there any records you have relating to the name Lamond as I don't seem to be having much luck..
Thank you
Caroline
Dear Caroline,
I am also a descendant of John Lamin (as the name appears in early records) and Anne Ruane. I live in the US. My grandfather, Patrick, was the oldest of their children. Others who came here were Mary, who married Patrick Grifferty, and lived in Philadelphia, John, who married Mary Fleming and lived in Scranton, William, who was killed in the mines in 1900 and Mikie, who married Mary Carnahan and lived also in Philadelphia. I have met the descendants of Maggie, the youngest girl who still live in Mayo, and son Thomas's son, Peter who had the farm in Rathnamaugh. We have been trying to track down Martin. He was the youngest son, probably born after 1880 and we knew he lied in London.
We have the whole scoop on the family so please contact me at (*). I'm enclosing a picture of my grandfather. Everybody in the family more or less resembles him.
Your cuz,
Marybeth VW
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I am also a descendant of John Lammin. In the US, the name became Lamond. He was the son of John Lammin and Mary Mullins, and also had a sister, Elizabeth. In early Crossmmolina Church records, it appears that there was a James Lammin as well. John Lammin's wife was Anne Ruane. This is sometimes written as Rowen, which may account for the confusion with the name, Browne.
John and Ann had the following children: Patrick, d. Scranton, PA 1911, Mary, d. Philadelphia, PA 1936, John, d. Scranton, PA., 1945, William, d. 1900, Scranton, PA, Michael, d. Philadelphia, 1955, Catherine, (may have died in childhood), James,Thomas and Maggie, who remained in Ireland and Martin, who moved to London.
They were all born at Tooreen, in Crossmolina Parish, Diocese of Kilalla. Thomas seems to have moved to Rathnamaugh after he married. We have managed to track down most of the descendants, but until I saw the posting here, had no way of finding Martin. Is there any way of passing this message along to Caroline?
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This is all great news - Martin Lammond lived in Consett Co Durham in England and had 12 children. He was born 1874 and died in 1960 - he was a coal miner and so was most of his sons. He maried Annie Smith but I have not found the record of the marriage as yet.
I would really like some birth dates if you have that information.
Many thanks for finding these details its nice to finally find out your roots..
Caroline ;D
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Dear Caroline,
I will have to write this in pieces because I have just discovered that there is a limit on length. The Lamin/Lammond/Lamond family is definitely Scottish in origin. We believe that they arrived in Mayo as a result of the Battle of the Diamond and other religious disturbances in the late 18th century. My mother, who passed away at the age of 96, and was the last of her generation, told me that there was a tradition that one of the family had been transported to Australia. I found a James on the ship Ann, who arrived in Sydney in 1800. He had been convicted of being a United Irishman.
Your Martin's grandfather, who was also John, was married to Mary Mullins or Mullin. They had a daughter Elizabeth who was born on June 26, 1833. Martin's father, John, was probably born before that, as the records do not go back beyond 1832. The connection with Mullin families in later records suggests that this is the correct family.
John Lamin was maried to Anne Ruane, daughter of John Ruane and Catherine Callaghan of Crossmolina Town on Feb. 1, 1861. She was born on March 23, 1834. The children who are recorded in the registers are Pat, 1862, John, 1863, Mary, 1864, James, 1868, William, 1870, Thomas, 1871, Catherine, 1873, and Maggie, 1880. Mikie is not recorded and his death certificate indicates that he was born in April of 1870. This is not possible but many of the Irish who came here had no idea what their real birthdates were. As far as Martin is concerned, there is probably a civil record for him.
I have a lot more on these people but cannot send it in this e-mail because it will be too long. Tell me about your family.
Marybeth
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Hi Caroline and Marybeth
I was impressed with all the names you can up with Marybeth- I had to go over each name in my register to compare your names with mine. I have to admit when I copied the pages from the register at my local FHL, the copier was very tired and thus the copies are not too clear. The register was none to clear either!
I would be happy to send you what I have but it does take me a long time to compile it and I usually run out of time on this site so it would be easier to email them back & forth. I will have my email posted under Personal messages, so if you could contact me there using my email, it would be a great help.
I appreciate the feedback on my comments as I would like the register to be as complete, and as correct, as possible.
See you in our emails ladies!
Diane
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Hi,
I only joined this site recently and as a result of the links and information I have received I have found a few links to the Maye family from Mayo from what I have found so far most seem to have been from the swineford area but, I came across a reference to a William Maye in Crossmolina when looking up the Griffiths valuation record.
He was called William Maye and was a tenant of Thomas Sheridan looks like he (rented) a small garden and house. i don't know if he was a relation yet or who his family was or where they went ! any information would be brilliant and most gratefully accepted
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Hi
I found no brides or grooms marrying into Sheridan and May lines, perhaps they were neighbors?
I found no Wm being born, but did find a Mary born Jan 18 1834 to Wm May and Cetty/Kitty? Monnelly, res Creevy.
Witnesses were Wm Heffernan and Mary Duggan.
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Hello Diski, Thanks for your kind offer. I really really appreciate it also.
This is what information my mother in law has given me and what I could find.
Anthony William Molloy b-1908 +/- 1, married Annie O'Connor 1931, born 1908+/- 1, Annie died in 1949 in Stockport England.
His children were
Michael J Molloy b-1931
Anthony W Molloy b-1933
Bridget T Molloy b-1934
James L Molloy b1938 d 1945
Annie O'Connor brother was Patrick and her sister was Lottie O'Connor
Anthony's father was also Anthony Molloy
Anthony's mother was Lucy Peacock b- London England?
Anthony's fathers brothers were Tom and Jim and his sisters were Annie and Maud
thanks :)
Trevor
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Hi there Diski,
I hope you can help me a little (well a lot really) I am looking for family that came from Crossmolina I know some details but not many and was wondering if you would be able to either point me in the right direction or if you could check the records for me as I have been trying to find stuff on the internet and I have come to a brick wall.
The details that I have are :
Bridget Gallagher b. 1853 (mother)
John Gallagher b. 1851 (Father)
Thomas b. 1881 (son)
Ellen b. 1883 (Daughter)
Celia b. 1885 (Daughter)
Norah b. 1887 ((Daughter)
Julia b. 1889 (Daughter)
Annie b. 1891 (Daughter)
I know that Ellen Married Michael Kelly circa 1902 but that is all that I know about Michael Kelly so I would be grateful if you could tell me anything about them.
Thanks in advance
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Looking for a Francis Morrison+wife Ann,both born about 1810.They came to England around 1847ish, there birth place in the 1851 census was Mayo but so far cannot trace them. ps son called James also born Mayo
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Hi Trevor,
Sorry, I don't mean to be difficult but I am confused with all the Anthonys in your tree and need some clarity.
Please explain just WHO you want me to look up, and the time frame. I am not clear which Anthony was the husb to Lucy Peacock, nor which Anthony was born in Crossmolina and when.
Were the Oconnors from Crossmolina? If so, WHO and when they were born in Crossmolina would be helpful. While the O'Connor name is not so common, it was frequently shortened to Connor-which was very popular in Crossmolina- all the surnames have the same given names so unless there is an uncommon name such as Celia involved with the search it can be very confusing and take a lot of time.
Was Lottic born in Crossmolina?
Thanks Trevor
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Hi Daxtman
Unfortunately, the time frame you gave is not covered in the church register-it gets very sparse from 1875 on. However, I do have have a John and Bridget (nee KELLY) giving birth to several children in the 1870's in Derra townland, and none of the children are the same as what you gave, so thats encouraging.
I will give you those name and dates but first I would like to know if they were still in Crossmolina in 1901 as well as 1911? I can look for more info in the census records to try and confirm if this is the same family as I have in the register.
Diane
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Kerrill,
Morrison is not a Catholic name, and I did not find any in the Cath Register. I DO have Morrison in the Church of Ireland Register for Crossmolina and several other COI parishes in North Mayo and can not find any Francis Morrison births or marriages. Perhaps you should look for the births or marriages of the one of the first born children in Eng where the parents place of birth might be listed.
Also looked in the International Genealogical Index (aka IGI) and again found no Francis Morrison. Do you know his wifes maiden name?
Diane
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Hi Daxtman
Unfortunately, the time frame you gave is not covered in the church register-it gets very sparse from 1875 on. However, I do have have a John and Bridget (nee KELLY) giving birth to several children in the 1870's in Derra townland, and none of the children are the same as what you gave, so thats encouraging.
I will give you those name and dates but first I would like to know if they were still in Crossmolina in 1901 as well as 1911? I can look for more info in the census records to try and confirm if this is the same family as I have in the register.
Diane
Thanks for that Diane I know john and Bridget where in crossmolina in 1911 just don't think the children where, well not all of them.
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Hi Daxtman,
I have a family that looks like yours but the date don't work. Let me know what you think-
This is from the 1911 census (maximize your window to view better, although it still overlaps Co of Birth):
TOWNLAND First LAST RELATION AGE Birth ear OCCUP M,S,W YRS,# CO BIRTH
Mullenmore So 1 Anthony Gallagher Head 81 1830 Farmer m Mayo
Mullenmore So 1 Celia Gallagher Wife 75 1836 m 54/11/7 Sligo
Mullenmore So 1 John Gallagher Son 40 1871 m Mayo
Mullenmore So 1 Bridget Gallagher Dtrlaw 35 1876 m 11/5/5 Mayo
Mullenmore So 1 Tho Gallagher Gson 9 1902 s Mayo
Mullenmore So 1 Celia Gallagher Gd 7 1904 s Mayo
Mullenmore So 1 Ellie Gallagher Gd 5 1906 s Mayo
Mullenmore So 1 Anthony Gallagher Gson 2 1909 s Mayo
Mullenmore So 1 Mary Gallagher Gd 1 1910 s Mayo
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This looks to be your family in 1901:
1901 Derry Lower 5 Gallagher John Head 50 1851 Farmer Mar Mayo RC
1901 Derry Lower 5 Gallagher Br w 48 1853 Mar Mayo RC
1901 Derry Lower 5 Gallagher Tho s 20 1881 Single Mayo RC
1901 Derry Lower 5 Gallagher Ellen d 18 1883 Single Mayo RC
1901 Derry Lower 5 Gallagher Celia d 16 1885 Single Mayo RC
1901 Derry Lower 5 Gallagher Nora d 14 1887 Single Mayo RC
1901 Derry Lower 5 Gallagher Julia d 12 1889 Single Mayo RC
1901 Derry Lower 5 Gallagher Ann d 10 1891 Single Mayo RC
1901 Derry Lower 5 Kearins Martin nephew 5 1896 Single Mayo RC
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Hi Diane,
Yes thats the one that I got but I can't find the Marriage ellen Gallagher to michael Kelly which I believe took place in Crossmolina circa 1902.
Do you have any access to these records.
Thanks for all the effort and hard work you are doing.
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No, I don't have anything that 'current' for Crossmolina. I don't have the site address but the CR index is on-line. Perhaps under Ireland on the Rootschat site?
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Sorry about that Diski
I read it again and I also got confused with the Anthony's LOL
I will ask my mother in law if she can give me some more details.
thanks ;D
Trevor
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Index to Irish civil registrations:
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347
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Hi
My grandfather was martin Lammond and i was born in consett at No 3 third st my father was Thomas Lammond can you give me any more info
regards
Colin
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Hi Tom,
I am your cousin. My grandfather was Patrick Lamond, born, Jan. 12, 1862 to John and Anne Ruane Lammin, as they spelled the name then. John's parens were John Lammin and Mary Mullins. Anne's parents were John Ruane and Catherine Callaghan. The children, besides my grandfather were John, b. late Feb. or March, 1863, Mary, b. May, 1864, James, b. March, 1868, William, b. Feb, 1870, Thomas, b. 1871, Catherine, b. 1873, Martin, b. Nov. 1874, Michael, b. between 1874 and 1879, and Maggie, b. 1880. Patrick, Mary, John, Willie and Mikie all came to the US. There are still cousins in the Crossmolina area. I can give you more details if you would send me a private message or respond to this reply.
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Sorry, Colin, I misread the original post.
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I am researching a Family of Rourke in Mayo from 1800 through 1880's any listings for BMD would be a big help. Other names with marriage unions include Langley and Cusack.
One branch moved to Crossmolina. Thanks for any help.
Tom O'Rourke
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Hi Tom,
YEAR MONTH CHILD FATHER SURNAME MOTHER SURNAME RESIDENCE Witness WITNESS WITNESS WITNESS
1864 May Cath Jas Rourke Br Reilly xm None None Mary Waters
YEAR MONTH CHILD FATHER SURNAME MOTHER SURNAME RESIDENCE Witness WITNESS WITNESS WITNESS
1856 30-Nov John Pat Orourke Cath Mackey CR CR Gallagher Br Rowland
CR means Couldn't Read it or info was missing.
No Langley (I do have Langan) or Cusack under Grooms/Father or Bride/Mother.
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Colin,
What aere the dates- please see my original post about needed info. Info for 1900 and later is difficult to find unless you have more specific info.
Where is Consett?
Diane
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Dear Colin and Diane,
I have been in touch with more recent generations of this family in the Crossmolina area. I met Thomas's son several years ago. He was living in Rathnamaugh, althugh he has since passed away. One cousin, who is a teacher in the area, sent me an outline of the descendants of those who remained in Ireland. I know where everyone is in the US. Attached is a picture of Mary Lammond Grifferty's son, Father Joe, who was an Augustinian priest. This family lived in Philadelphia. I would like to help out.
Marybeth VW
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Hi caz129 & Caroline my father was Thomas Lammond born in consett he had a brother david who moved to London with sisters Norah, Cassie & brother Billy does any of this ring a bell
regards Colin
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Hello Diane/All,
I am trying to find more info on the Gillespie name in Crossmolina. Starting with my GGGrandfather
Michael Joseph Gillespie b. July 9, 1876 in Dereen, Crossmolina
d. Sept. 29, 1964 Youngstown, Ohio
Wife Rose Ann McSherry b. June 27,1887 Co. Sligo
His father was Peter Gillespie b. ? Ireland
d. Abt. 1915
Wife Mary Josephine Mulhearn (spelled several ways)
Marybeth (mamev1),
I notice you are researching Gillespies. Any connection?
Thank you,
Kevin
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Hi Kevin,
I have the 1901 census for you in Derreen:
Names First Rel Age Year Born Occup Marriage Birth Religion
Gillespie Mary w 57 1844 Mar Mayo RC
Gillespie Peter Head 55 1846 Farmer Mar Mayo RC
Gillespie Maria d 31 1870 Single Mayo RC
Gillespie Mich s 26 1875 Single Mayo RC
Gillespie Margt d 24 1877 Single Mayo RC
Gillespie Peter s 22 1879 Single Mayo RC
Gillespie Br d 20 1881 Single Mayo RC
Gillespie Ellen d 15 1886 Single Mayo RC
Gillespie Nora s 11 1890 Single Mayo RC
The church records are incomplete and also could be erroneous due to the condition of the register and how I interpreted the writing. Here they are, but PLEASE don't take it as gospel. I am in the process of checking the register again but your time frame is too early-I am only up to 1855ish so it will be a while yet, but I will check next week for your family and also get the sponsors. Here is what I have BEFORE double checking the register:
Church records MONTH CHILD FATHER SURNAME MOTHER SURNAME RESIDENCE
1869 Feb Mary Peter Gillespy Mary Mulherin Dereen
1872 Dec Tho Peter Gillespy Mary Mulherin Tristia
1874 July Mich Peter Gillespy Mary Mulherin Letter-
1876 Oct Margt? Peter Gillespy Mary Mulherin Dereen
1879 Feb Peter Peter Gillespy Mary Mulherin Dereen
1881 March Br Peter Gillespy Mary Mulherin Dereen
Thats it for now,
Diane
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Dear Kevin and Diane,
I am stumped with my Gillespies. I know of three siblings, Anthony, who fought with the PA 8th regiment in the Civil War, Mary, who seems to have married into a Judge family in Pittston and Dominick, my great-grandfather who died after a fall in 1896. Because PA death certificates at that time didn't specify parents or place of origin beyond Ireland, I can't really tell where he was from.
I am aware of traditional Irish naming patterns: Dominick's oldest son was Patrick, another son was Anthony and a third son was Joseph. His daughters were Honora, who died in infancy, Margaret, Mary Ann, Elizabeth and Alice. Naturally, I am looking for Gillespies whose father might have been a Patrick, although I am not excluding other possibilities, of course.
My late father, who was born in 1902 and who knew some of the people of the immigrant generation, said that his family was from Ballina. (This could have been the Gallaghers, as well.) I have been reading the Kilmoremoy parish records and have seen large numbers of Gillespies in townlands of that parish. I am currently on baptism #10, 258 and am only up to 1833. My guess is that Dominick was probably born between 1835 and 1840 so I still have a way to go.
I know there were numerous Gillespies in Crossmolina but for some reason, I don't think my Gillespies were from there. I've read through Crossmolina a few times looking for various names, and no one seems to fit in with what I do know.
Mary, Dominick and Anthony all apear on the 1860 Luzerne Co., PA census, living in a boarding house in Pittston. Later, Dominick and Anthony moved to Scranton. I have Anthony's papers from the CW, but since he didn't apply for a pension, there is nothing to specific about his background. And so, I will keep reading Kilmoreloy until the cows come home. Maybe I will find something there that can be of benefit to us both.
Marybeth VW
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Hi Marybeth
My database does not show any Dominicks Eliz or Alice names born in that time frame.
Sounds like you have a HUGE project ahead of you!
Good luck!
Diane
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Dear Diane,
Thank you. I imagine that I will finish Kilmoremoy sometime in this lifetime. Then it will be on to another parish. The only good thing about this is that I have filled notebooks with transcriptions from these parish records. If any of the names that I have pop up in these discussions, I might be able to provide some help to someone.
I did read all that was available from Kilfian parish, where my Ruddy and McHale ancestors originated. There are only ten years of records extant but I found a great deal on the above names as well as Munnelly/Monnelly/Manley families. (That's the family I was actually looking for, for someone here in the US.)
Take care,
Marybeth VW
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Hello Marybeth -
I am interested in your Munnelly/Monnelly records. My ancestor was Mary Munnelly born about 1844. I have found, what I believe to be her marriage record to Peter Gaughan 15 Feb 1868 in Bellmullet Chapel, Belmulley, Mayo. Her residence at time of marriage was Tallaghan. Her father's name was Michael.
Do you have any Mary Munnellys or Michael Munnellys in your records? Her name was later changed to Munley when she emmigrated to USA - Pennsylvania.
Thank you
Trish
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Dear Trish,
I have not gotten as far as Belmullet. However, one of my Manley/Munnelly correspondents is connected with the area so I have forwarded your question. Can you give any more information? Where did Mary settle in the US? Any other information that might be helpful? Right now I am reall, really bogged down reading Kilmoremoy. I am up to something beyond the 10,000th baptism and still am not out of the 1830's. I don't see a lot of Munnelly's there, however.
I do have Tony Donohoe's book on Crossmolina Parish, however and he writes this about the historic Munnelly's: The O'Donnell came to Mayo in the early 17th century, presumably after the defeat at the Battle of the Boyne. He planted Achille, Ballycroy, Glenhest and parts of Erris with his followers. These included Munnelly O'Doherty who were settled in Ballymunnelly."
I will let you know what my correspondents think.
Marybeth
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Hi Marybeth -
Thank you for your response. She immigrated in 1883. Their ship was one of the first to leave Blacksod Bay under Free Emmigration. Mary (Munnelly) Gaughan and her husband Peter Gaughan settled in Winton Borough, now Jessup, Pennsylvania with their three sons. I believe that she had a brother Patrick who also settled there. He went by Patrick Munley.
Any help would be much appreciated.
All the best,
Trish
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Any chance of having a look for Francis Morrison came to England in the 1850s wth wife Ann and possably son James.
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Hi,
I checked all of my notebooks hoping that there might be a Morrison mixed up with one of the families I was referencing but apparently they were not connected. Then I checked Tony Donohoe's book on Crossmolina. He has all of the names indexed and in some cases, quite a bit on certain prominent or numerous families. He doesn't have Morrisons indexed.
I will try a few other things, just to see if I can identify them with a townland or even a differernt parish. I am doing Kilmoremoy right now and haven't seen that name. But I am still in the 1830's.
Marybeth VW
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Wondering if there are any records for a Solomon (b 1804 and died in 1886) and Mary Judge O'Boyle in the records. Also wonder if there are records for his son John who married an Anne Quinn in 1866 era. Son Edward married a Margaret Murphy, Ellen married a John Moylett, Bridget married a John Gannon, Ann married a Forrester in Scotland. Would love to know Mary Judges and Solomons parents and siblings. Thank you, Bob
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Thanks so much,Have 1841--1901 census's Preston Lancashire if you ever need to search there.Also most of the Directories for that area.
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Ihave another book, a History of Mayo by J.F. Quinn. The only Morrison I found in that was from Killalla. Owen Morrison was making claim to damaged property after the 1798 uprising.
In reference to the Munnelly/Gaughan families of Winton, PA... I found Peter and Mary Gaughan on Powell Street in the borough in 1900. Peter wa born in 1845, Mary in 1847. (This is rarely accurate because a lot of people didn't know how old they were. They had four children, 3 living. Only son James, age 22 was then in the household. Peter was a day laborer in the mines. Which meant he worked as needed. James was a laborer. All three were said to have come here in 1881. This too may be a slight inaccuracy. Also living in the household was a nephew, Corneliius Eggleston, age 16, born in Pennsylvania.
On the same page there was a Nora Munley, head of house, born 1869 in Ireland. There were three sons, all born in Pennsylvania, Edward, Thonas and John, ages 6, 4, and 1. She claimed to have come here in 1883.
On Church Street, there was Patrick Munley, b. 1846 and wife Jullia, b. 1855. He too was a day laborer. They too say they came here in 1880. They had nine children, eight of whom were living: Michael, 22, Anthony, 20, Dennis, 17, < Margaret 16, Nellie, 12, Mary, 9, Katie, 3, and Julie, 2. Only son Michael was born in Ireland.
It is interesting to note that one of our Judges, Thomas Munley, descends from one of these families. There are a large number of them "up the valley" as we say, and they are very prominent.
Marybeth VW
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Hi Trish,
I found the following for Crossmolina Monnelly:
CR means Can't Read
1841 15-Mar Mary Pat Monnelly Mary Monnelly CR John Monnelly Mary Moran
1847 21-Feb Mary Edw Monnelly Cath Hannahugh C Gariff Mich Hannahugh Winifred Kelly
1850 30-May mary Pat Monnelly Mary Barrett Derra John Gillespy Rose Monnelly
1846 Sept Mich John Monnelly Mary Dolan
1866 July Mich Pat Monnelly Jane Higgins Gortskeddia
Have NO Gaughans marrying into Monnelly or vice versa in Crossmolina.
I have a book called "Where the Sun Sets" by Fr Noone and I have it indexed at this web site:
http://www.celticcousins.net/ireland/freeimmigration1883.htm
It appears Peter came from a townland called Shraigh, aka Strath aka Holm in Belmullet Parish.
There was Peter Gaughan and John Gaughan families that emigrated. There were other Gaughans as well, that lived in the townland-
Kate Gaughan married Arthur Bingham
Austin Gaughan was imprisioned in the 1920s and released from Sligo prison Nov 1924 for involement in Civil War
Mary Gaughan was teacher in the Nat'l School.
Tallagh was in Ballycroy Parish, and a Tullaghanduff in Kiltane Parish. There is mention of a Fr. Cormack Monnelly lived here in the beginning of the century (20th C). A Patrick Monnelly family went to Co Kildare in 1957. A Tho Monnelly was a poet and wrote "Tullaghan Bay and Sweet Dromore. He was a member of the RIC and emigrated to England where he married and became a Sanitation Inspector. He died 1953 age 57.
Hope thats some help Trish,
Diane
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Hi Kerrill
Morrison is a COI name in Crossmolina, but have no listings for a Francis and Ann.
No Morrison for the Catholic Register either.
Sorry!
Diane
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Hi Bob,
I know we have corresponded several times before on your Oboyle line before. Isn't Jane a cousin that you correspond with on the Oboyles and surely she has shared the info with you. I feel like we have already covered these Oboyle families already so I am not sure what more I can provide you.
If I haven't already mentioned -The Catholic church records do not cover births before 1832, so finding a birth in the register is not possible for anything earlier. Here is what I have:
Church records MONTH CHILD FATHER SURNAME MOTHER SURNAME RESIDENCE
1871 Nov Honor John OBoyle Honor Quinn Tooreen
Church records MONTH CHILD FATHER SURNAME MOTHER SURNAME RESIDENCE Witness WITNESS WITNESS WITNESS
1856 15-Apr Br Solomon OBoyle Mary Judge Ballycoroon Hugh Ruane Mary Rape
1858 18-Mar Ann Solomon OBoyle Mary Judge Tooreen John Gallagher Ellen Barrett
1861 Dec Sara Solomon OBoyle Mary Judge Tooreen Pat Kelly Ellen Barrett
1881 Feb MARRIAGE John Gannon Bessy OBoyle Tooreen (I have no christenings)
1866 Feb MARRIAGE John Mylott Ann OBoyle Tooreen
1870 April Eleanor John Mylott Mary OBoyle Tooreen
1876 May ? John Mylott Mary OBoyle Tooreen
1878 April Pat John Mylott Eleanor OBoyle rathmore
1881 Jan Mich John Mylott Eleanor OBoyle Tooreen
I am afraid you will never find parentage of Solomon Oboyle or Mary Judge in the Catholic Register Bob. You'll have to find more creative means I think!
Diane
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Thank you Diane! Bob
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Hi Bob,
You might to try a more personal approach- try posting your Oboyle line in the community BB in Crossmolina, the OBoyle surname list, perhaps the Library in Castlebar has a genealogy section that has OBoyles, the North Mayo genealogy may have more records available to them than us 'outsiders'.
Diane
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That sounds good and worth a try. Do you have any emails or websites for them? Thanks BC
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I don't want to get off topic, but I did find two things for a Francis Morrison. There ia a marriage listed in the 1880's in the Ballina Assizes (?) and two children, Anne Kate and Frances within a few years. This demonstrates the presence of the name in the vicinity, but from this side of the pond, I'll be darned if I can find anything else. I don't suggest that this Francis is the one you are looking for. I think, however, given traditional naming patterns, there were some relatives in the vicinity.
Marybeth VW
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Thanks for that Marybeth, we think Francis was born around 1810 if the age on the 1861 census is correct. His birthplace on the census states Mayo,but later on his son James puts down Longford,I know that the answer could be that Francis moved to Longford and then James was born. Thanks for looking I will soldier on.
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Bob
Here are a few. You might also concider posting your family tree on-line. Any of the genealogical sites like rootsweb, cyndislist, ect will allow you to post your tree for free- make sure you privitize it so no info on living people or personal notes is made public though. Also be sure you list a current email address and street address so people can contact you.
You could post your tree on this Mayo list as well as rootsweb Mayo list.
http://www.mayolibrary.ie/en/Home/
http://mayo.irishroots.net/
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/
http://www.connorsgenealogy.net/Mayo/
Good luck Bob,
Diane
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I have an Edward Sweeney 1816-? & his wife Barbara Walsh 1831-?
their children were Belinda 1848-1922.Maria 1851-1951,Kate 1861,Michael 1862-1948,Celia 1863,Eliza 1864-1939,Agnes 1865-1902,Thomas 1868,Albert 1870,John 1858.
were is Ballygowan?
Any help greatly appreciated.
Kim
See separate topic here:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,380024.msg2528306.html#msg2528306
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Family records show Crossmolina origins as follows:
great grandfather Terrans (Terence) Francis McNulty, born 10 Aug 1839
his brother, Peter, born 1844
another possible brother, Patrick, born 1846
brothers immigrated to US 1859-1863
their father was named John
their mother was named Honora (maiden name: Jebrey, sp?)
John may have had a brother Michael and sister Mary
There is a John McNulty listed twice in the Parish of Crossmolina, Keenagh Beg, in Griffith's Valuation
Any information would be appreciated
Richard McNulty
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Richard,
John and wife Mary Doherty live in Keenagh during the Valuation. Children I have born to them are:
1858 21-Nov Mary John McNulty Mary Doherty
1858 Jan MARRIAGE John McNulty Mary Doherty
1860 March Pat John McNulty Mary Doherty
1862 April John John McNulty Mary Doherty
1864 May Peter John McNulty Mary Doherty
1868 July Mich John McNulty Mary Doherty
1870 Nov Honor John McNulty Mary Doherty
1873 April Cath John McNulty Mary Doherty
I have no Terrence or Francis , Peter, McNulty births that early. nor any John McNulty and Honora giving birth to any children.
There is a Peter McNulty and Bridget Nelson living on Rake st having children in the early 30s & 40s. Thery married in 1833. Also a Pat and wife Sara Nelson (most likely siblings marrying siblings.) also on Rake st who married in 1838.
Perhaps they lived along the fringe Crossmolina Parish, but went to another parish church such as Moygawnagh, Addergoole, Kilfian, ect.
Also tried to link the siblings of John, Mich and Mary but made no connections.
Infortunately the register is missing pages, and entire months and years so it is not complete.
Sorry I couldn't help,
Diane
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Hi
I am new to Rootschat, just noticed your post regarding a look up at Crossmolina Church Records, I am looking for William Donlon who married Mary Madden and had a number of children, John and William that I know of, I found the following Griffin's Entry
Name Mary Donlon
Parish Crossmolina
Barony Tirawley
Place ENAGH BEG
Any help would be great
Kind Regards
Leanne
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Hi Leanne,
I found the following Donelan in Enaghbeg/Ebeg:
Church records MONTH CHILD FATHER SURNAME MOTHER SURNAME RESIDENCE Witness WITNESS WITNESS WITNESS
1838 18-Jul John Tho Donelan Eliza Caden Ebeg John Donelan Mary Caden
In the History of Crossmolina, author Tony Donohoe states that in the tithe of Enaghbeg North, which was taken in the 1830s has a John Donnellan listed as leasing land on parcel #7. By 1857, abt the time Griffiths Valuation was done, there was a W. Mary Donnellan. Tony claims that this John was married to Mary Corrigan/Currigan.
There are not many Maddens in Crossmolina, but very numerous in Ballycastle/Doonfeeny Parish.
You didnt mention the years you are searching for-that may help me narrow down some of the transcribing errors in the register.
Diane
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Hi Diane,
Thank you so much for that info, it was really great, It has really helped
I am travelling to ireland, would this parish fall under North or South Mayo? Is there a library that would have some information that i could look over ?
Thanks so much again, I will need to find where to go next
Kind Regards
Leanne
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Leanne- have a look at this new thread MAYO RESOURCES & LINKS - there's lots of information there.
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,387116.0.html
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Hi Leanne,
Crossmolina is North Mayo. They do have a local library, and I believe a Mrs Gallagher is librarian there.
The County library is in Castlebar, and they have a link to other libraries as well, so you might want to email Castlebar and Crossmolina library to see what holdings they have that are pertinent to your interests.
I know Castlebar has internet items to look at, including old maps of the townlands:
http://www.mayolibrary.ie/en/home/index.aspx
Good Luck to you!
Diski/Diane
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Hi,
I haven't been on this site in awhile, but I wanted to mention that over the years I have collected a vast number of baptisms and marriages from North Mayo parishes. I have already posted various names from Kilmoremoy and am in the process of putting up the Crossmolina records. I only have the parish map up for now, but am working on it every day. It might be of some help to some of the people writing here. The website is http://irishhereandthere.yolasite.com. The Ballina records only go to 1850 as of now but I have many, many more to post. I have selected names from Lahardane, and the ten extant years from Kilfian, as well.
MarybethVW
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So gracious for you to research for so many of us. I am looking for any records, BMD or Land for Anthony Carlin, Carolin, Carland or even CAROLOAN. I see on Landed Extates that an Anthony Carolan bought Abbeytown in 1852. He is possibly our relative. James Carlin, (ETC) and Mary Doherty were married about 1828, had two children, Terrance b.1830 and Catherine b. 1832. The family left for Quebec in 1836 to a place called Grenville where I am finding many records. The family was definitely Roman Catholic. Anthony was married to a Margaret David or Davis about 1795 but no location.
Anything you can send will be huge for our family.
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Hi Margym317
The early 1830s are difficult for the Catholic population in Mayo. Church records for Cathics started abt 1833 and for the parish of Crossmolina, those records are very badly damaged. I have a good many christenings where I couldn't read childs name, or parents name. So your Carolan MAY be there but I could not read it.
I do have a book called The History of Crossmolina by Tony Donohoe he mentions Abbeytown being purchase by an Anthony Carolan of Crossmolina (I assume the town of) a successful merchant and he and his family lived there. In 1901 census, the is James Carolan and his wife Eliza nee Quinn (of Cabra) and 2 sons living there. Sons are Jas and Pat Carolan.
If you know the townland in Crossmolina where your earliest Canavans came from I can look it up in the book since it goes by village name.
Diane
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I have ordered the Tony Donahoe book but it will take time and I would guess it is reference only but I can only hope. The LDS film for Crossmolina also says some records are faded but I will take a $6.50 chance and see if I can find any matching names. We are so far back that the chance of any records will be a miracle! Thanks for what you are doing for us.
Oddly enough, my father's family is from Ballyhaunis just about 30 miles from Crossmolina. I was there last May and really want to make a fourth trip before I die!
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The book is very interesting for doing genealogoy but is not well indexed so you really have to read the entire thing and write down page number and any names and townlands that you are interested in.You may find what you are looking for.
I am going over this summer for 6 weeks or more- most of it for visiting sites, but I plan to spend a week or so in Crossmolina.
You may also be interested in a magazine that the parish started putting out anually. First issue is 1994 and is full of wonderful tidbits of history and families that grew up. Its not indexed but is a great read. I am trying to gather up all issues and have about half of them thanks to friends and distant relatives. If you make it over, you may want to pick up some or read them (at the library?).
Good Luck!
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What is the name of the parish? Is that a civil name or the Roman Catholic church in Crossmolina. Thanks for your response. :)
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Crossmolina is a parish as well as a Registration district so the townlands vary.
Civil districts tend to run close to the Poorlaw Unions.
For the timeframe of early 1830, Abbytown is in Crossmolina Parish but in the Poor Law union district of Ballina.
The name of the magazine is 'Crossmolina Chronicles'.
Diane
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You are a wealth of information. Thank you, thank you!
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I am looking for info on my ancestors Michael Lynott and Catherine Hughes. They emigrated to Canada sometime before 1853 (son James Joseph Lynott was born in Canada in 1853). I have notes on some old family documents that suggest that they were from Crossmolina. Any help that you could give would be wonderful!
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I found birth of your James to this couple:
Michael Lynott ans Catherine Hughes
James, christened 27 Aug 1834 in townland of Carrowgarve in Crossmolina Parish. Witnesses were Herbert Lynott and Sara Hughes.
This was the only entry for this couple.
Diane
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Hi Diane
Could you please check for a patrick Kilkenny ca 1821 married ca 1843 had at least 2 children Patrick born ca1845 and John born ca1849 father stayed in mayo sons emigrated to England
any help would be great
I Posted before but i think it was removed
Thanks Patrick Kilkenny
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Hi Diane
Could you please check for a patrick Kilkenny ca 1821 married ca 1843 had at least 2 children Patrick born ca1845 and John born ca1849 father stayed in mayo sons emigrated to England
any help would be great
I Posted before but i think it was removed
Thanks Patrick Kilkenny
Your post was split from this thread and moved here since it wasn;t clear whether the family were from Crossmolina area or merely Co.Mayo-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,454405.msg3158776.html#msg3158776
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Hi-
I could not find any male Kilkenny families that I managed to decipher. I do have 2 female Kilkennys marrying in in 1880 :
Pat Flannaghan and Ann Kilkenny married Dev 27 1880
John Tully and Cath Kilkenny married June 27 1880
Both couples from Kilmurray.
No children found to be born to them, although the register is VERY sparce from the 1877s onward.
Diane
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I am searching for REA's. I have seen stories of REA's buried at Rake Street cemetery in Crossmolina and REA's living in Ballina and REA's at the Greyfort (now torn down) in Lislea, barony of Corran. Any help in finding any of them would be greatly appreciated.
My father passed away 5 years ago and I told him I would find our home town in Ireland so that his ashes could be put in a lake or river nearby.
The only relative that I know of that was born in Ireland was William F. (could be Franklin or Flemming) Rea born in 1782. Family stories say that he is from near Donegal Bay in what was Ulster before it became a Free State.
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What time frame are you looking at. I don't have ANYTHING for the 1790s-was he catholic? Did you read my introduction for requesting information?
Lough Conn would be the lake beside Crossmolina.
Sounds like they may have migrated during the Battle of the Diamonds which was about 1790-a good many families came down from Donegal then. Perhaps the Mayo library in Castlebar has a history for you.
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No Rea in my database for catholics 1833-1880. You could try the North Mayo genealogical center and ask them for a paid search-they do have cemetary transcriptions.
Diski
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I am looking for information on:
Michael Clifford, born in Crossmolina about 1820, emigrated to US about 1845
Harriet Cavanaugh/Kavanaugh, born about 1830, emigrated to US about 1847. She may have been the daughter of Daniel Cavanaugh and Mary Tigue.
James Haggerty, born June 1847 or 1847, emigrated to US in 1850 with his mother Ann & Mary Ann Haggerty. described as her sister
All were Catholics & immediately or eventually settled in the Scarnton, PA area. I think Ann Haggerty and her son first lived in New York.
Thank you so much for any information you can provide.
Maureen Haggerty
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As explained in my original post, no records avail before 1833-so no info on Cliffords or Cavanaughs. I checks the Tithe, done ca 1833 and there is no mention of either name.
Checked for a Jas Heggarty born abt your time to a Ann, but nothing comes up. That time frame records are very scarce.
Sorry!
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Thanks very much!
Maureen Haggerty
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Hi,
Just noticed your generous offer, which I'd like to take up, if I may.
I'm interested in a Patrick Ward, born on 10 Jan 1837 to Patrick Ward and Mary Maloney. RC.
His naval service records mostly give the place of birth as Ballina, Mayo, but in one of them Ballina has been scored out & replaced with Killann. (I can't find a Killann in Mayo - someone suggested it might correctly be Kilfian.)
I'd be very grateful if you could have a look for me, please.
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I can't help but take you up on this offer. I am traveling to Ireland next month and would love to be able to visit a specific place in County Mayo.
I recently came across the names of my great-great-great grandparents in a list of early couples in County Mayo. Their are listed as being married in Crossmolina in Feb. 1833. Currently, the only information I know for sure is that Francis (Frank) O'Boyle was born in 1795 in Mayo and married Margaret Walsh (sometimes Welch or Welsh) born in 1799 in Mayo. They had four children in Mayo before leaving for Canada in 1848: Timothy O'Boyle born May 1837, Francis O'Boyle born Dec 1840, Daniel O'Boyle born 1844, and Margaret born 1842
OK. I guess I have a lot of info., but it still would be nice to have a specific place to visit. Thanks in advance for any information you can give me!
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Well, not sure if this is the correct family, but here is a possible link. Please remember that the church records were in very bad conition during the early years of record keeping for the Catholic church, so while I did my best, its quite possible that I read the microfilm incorrectly.
The townland is abbreviated so it full name is Carrowcloughy. You may want to contact the church or North Mayo Gen Soc to see if they have other info for you. However, there are a good many active OBoyle researchers on the Co Mayo rootsweb list as well as the surname list-you ought to post your names.Be sure to include OBoyle and Crossmolina on th subject line so it catches the Oboyle researcher attention.
Marriage of Tho O'Boyle and Margaret Walsh Feb 6 1833 of Carrowcloughy, witness John Hunt and Br Walsh
Hope this is yours-there is nothing quite so awesome as walking the same grounds as your Irish ancestors!
Diane
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Hi Diane,
You are so wonderful to make this offer. If I may impose on your kindness and ask when you have a chance to check the Crossmolina Church records for my g-grandparents Charles Dogherty/Doherty and Mary Kelley who married around 1860. He was from Sligo and she was from Mayo. They had 6 children in the Foxford/Belgariff area 1861-1877. (Sponsors' names in baptisms were Ford, Roache, McNulty and Dempsey.) He died in the Swinford workhouse in 1883. I fear that they may have married in the Toomore parish and there are no surviving records for that time period. But maybe I will get lucky and you will find them in Crossmolina.
Thanks so much!
Kate
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Sorry Kate, I don't have that couple in the register. Did you try the Latter Day Saints IGI?
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/frameset_search.asp
Mostly for 1864-68 so you might find some children.
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Thanks for your help.
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Bhoy,
Very sorry to take so long replying-I must have overlooked your query!
I only had 3 Wards in Crossmolina Catholic register, and none fit your family.
It could be Kilfian parish or even Killala which was a navel post at one time.
Sorry I couldn't help.
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Bhoy,
Very sorry to take so long replying-I must have overlooked your query!
I only had 3 Wards in Crossmolina Catholic register, and none fit your family.
It could be Kilfian parish or even Killala which was a navel post at one time.
Sorry I couldn't help.
Okay, thanks anyway.
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Hi Diane
I have just noticed your kind offer of look ups and wondered if I could ask you if you can help me. All I know about my g.g. grandfather Edward Wilson is that he was born in Mayo around 1813 (ish) and his parents were Edward Wilson occupation Stonemason and Mary Wilson m.s. Tigue. I have been on a Mayo ancestors site and found a birth for 1815 for an Edward Wilson with parents Edward Wilson and Mary Wilson and the address is Crossmolina parish of Crossmolina Cofi. I can't be sure its the corrects birth unless I can prove the mothers maiden name was Tigue. I also found a death for an Edward Wilson on 19th February 1864 aged 75 address Poorhouse district of Killala and he is a widower and occupation Mason. ( I think he may be the father of the Edward born in Crossmolina. I found a death in 1818 for a Mary Wilson in North Mayo but don't know if she is the mother. Is there any way you can help me tie this information in. I wondered if the poorhouse records may give any details of Edward Wilsons family. Any advice you could give me would be most helpful Thank you
Boop
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Hi Boop,
Sorry, but I have NO Edward Wilsons from either the RC or the CofI records. I have Wislons, but no Edwards, nor any Wilson married to a Tigue in Crossmolina. I don't have have any info on other areas in Mayo, so you may have to search the register from the LDS films.
Good luck!
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I have alot of info on O'Boyle, tooreen crossmolina. Honor O'Boyle married Martin Barrett would like to know more on the Barrett side. They had children one of which was Mae Barrett who had a child out of wedlock and spent alot of her life inn Chicago as a consequence. I have recently met my Irish family and was rather a shock to them as they did not know she had had a daughter and I am the resulting Grand daughter!
Barretts I believe were from Rathnamaugh, hard to get info though.
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Dates for each event would be nice to have.
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Honor O'Boyle b1886 to Edward O'Boyle and Margaret Murphy.
Honor married Martin barrett.
Martin Barrett b1878 d1927 in drowing accident near Tooreen, Co Mayo.
They had 5 children, one daughter was Mae Barrett b1913 d1991 and she was my Grandmother.
Janet
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Janet,
I really want to HELP you, but honestly-you make it difficult ;)
You already stated you have a lot of O'Boyle info (I remember helping you with some of that), so just PRECISELY what info are you asking for? I don't want to read between the lines, and I don't want to spend hours looking for info you already have...are you seeking info on the Barret line?
Please read my original statement as it contains what records I have, and the years that it covers...and, the more info you give me, the more likely I can help.
When/who went to chicago, did anyone remain, what townland did they live in-toureen?
It appears that you are looking at info that is ca 1900-have you looked at census records, or Griffiths Valuation (REVISED) which is very handy to look at if you haven't yet seen it.
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Okay Janet, first allow me to appologize for giving you grief-you did state that you are looking at Barrett info. I must have zoned out or something-I'm so sorry!
Anyway, info for Crossmolina after 1885ish is not avail if your looking for births, marriages or deaths.I am sure you have already looked into census records, so I won't go there unless you ask me to.
You mentioned Rathnamagh, and I normally wouldn't have any info for that parish, but I actually do have Griffiths Revised in partiality (is that a word?). So I will give you what I have, but it only gives info on land that changes hands.
It is very confusing to follow to, so I will give you the FHL film number in case you want to figure out the specifics- #852245!
If you email me at (*), I will try to make sense of it for you and sent it via email.
Again, Im sorry I was being difficult!
Diski
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Still looking for any traces of James or Anthony CAROLAN. James and his wife Mary Doherty CAROLAN left for Canada about 1835 so they should be in the Tithe data base. Two children born in Ireland, Terrance and Catherine. Wish I could access the Tithe data base Mother of James was Margaret David or Davis who married Anthony. History of Crossmolina says they were from Derry but where do I start there? 'Tis such a puzzle.
Margaret Moore
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Just do an internet google search 'Tithe Mayo Ireland' and Im sure there will be several free sites available to search. Same with Griffiths Valuation and census records.
Here is what I have for Carolan Tithe:
Ballyvimaha John Carolan
Ballyvimaha Patrick Carolan
Ballyvimaha John Carolan
Cartrongilbert Anthony Carolan
For church records:
YEAR PAGE MONTH CHILD FATHER SURNAME MOTHER SURNAME RESIDENCE
1838 26 5-May Ant Jas Carolan Br Walsh Ballyvicmaha
1849 60 25-Mar Jas Jas Carolan Br Walsh Ballyvicmaha
1832 6 3-Dec Br Ant Carolan Eleanor Gallagher xm
1835 21 17-Oct Pat Ant Carolan Eleanor Gallagher xm
Perhaps your Carolans were not from Crossmolina?
Diski
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Perhaps they were not from Crossmilina but so many homes were trashed in the north that families moved to Mayo for food. They left for Canada in 1835 so Griffiths does not help me. The History of Crossmolina says they came from Derry. Again a vast search.
This is what I know:
Margaret David or Davis married Anthony Carlin per Quebec Drouin record.
Anthony does not appear in any Canadian Census so I may assume he died in Ireland and Margaret went to live with son James.
James married Mary Doherty and they had two children, Terrance and Catherine but can't prove who was born first but prior to 1835.
I will have to concentrate on more Canadian records until I can go across the pond!
Thanks for your help.
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I would really love some help with my family history and you seem to be the person to ask. I have great great grandparents names Patrick and Bridget Donnelly. I do not know Bridget's maiden name. They were born in County Mayo. I believe they were born in 1840(Patrick) and 1841(Brigdet), but don't know for sure. I have info that leads me to Crossmolina Parish with Carrowkilleen and Gortnahurra as other parts of their locality. They had a daughter Anna in April of 1873, but she was born in the US(Hastings, Nebraska to be exact). I don't know if there were other children, and I'm not sure when they emigrated. If you have any clues to exactly when they were born, when they were married, her Maiden name, any children born in IRE, and possibly their parents names, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you for any help.
Jackie
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What is the earliest reference year you have on Pat & Bridget Donnelly is the states- do you have them in the 1860 or 1870 census in Nebraska?
Unfortunately for you, few records exist for the dates you give. In 1840 they are very poor condition, and 1874 is the tail end of the register and only a few christenings were entered.
In the Tithe for all Donnellys listed in Crossmolina:
Carrowgarve No.-Skelbun? Martin Donnelly
Killacorraun Edmond Donnelly
Griffiths Valuation (ca 1856) for all Donnellys:
ATTISHANE Patrick Donnelly
ATTISHANE Godfrey Donnelly
CARROWKILLEEN Anthony Donnelly
CARROWKILLEEN John Donnelly
I did not find any Pat Donnellys being born in the 1840s, but I have a good amount of unreadable names-so he could be there but can't say for sure.
I can polk around abit to see if there are any naturaliation records. If you have more info it would hel- brothers or sisters to Pat perhaps?
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Now I find a land patent record which mentions Terrance Carrolan as brother to James Carlin. Spellings are different everywhere! But they are brothers. So it looks like Terrance came to Quebec first but I know they all came from Mayo. Anthony is the only connection to these to sons so I am hoping that the Anthony Carolan that lived at Abbeytown would have been their father. Only one record is found and that is for the Mother of James being Margaret David or Davis Carlin widow of Anthoni Carlin and she died in 1860 at age 99 with the census note of death by old age. So all these "Car" people are the same family. Irish spelling will be different. Any ideas?
Between the Irish spellings, the Canadian records and French transcribers I am trying to keep an open mind on the spellings.
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Hello to all on Crossmolina Church Records
I have a couple question's if I may! My first is my Morrisons come from Crossmolina or area also around Killalla Bay area now I have have found a place in some record a person had called Glanedagh, Crossmolina Co. Mayo is this a district of Crossmolina the town or a townland outside the town.As I have searched and can't find it anywere! And my other is according to a obit I read of my great great granddad it stated he had come to Canada with his mom and dad and siblings when he was 15 which was 1841/42 now being from this area were would have my family sailed from and would their ship dock in Quebec as they did end up in Saskatchewan at one point ?I hope so one could answere my questions as I feel I have so hit a wall and I thought someone that has gone threw records just may have seen something that would relate ... Thank you all and have a great day .. Diane ( this is my email * )
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Hi Diane,
Glenadagh is in Kilfian Parish and in the district of Crossmolina. I do have a few Morrisons that were entered in the Church of Ireland register (which covers a good amount of North Mayo, including Kilalla) LDS film # 897365
YEAR MONTH NAME FATHER SURNAME MOTHER SURNAME RESIDENCE
1778 CONFIRM And Morrison
1803 18-Jan Jane Jas Morrison Ann Annagh,Kilfian
1803 13-Feb Mary John Morrison Eleanor Rathmore
1804 CONFIRM Eleanor Morrison
1807 none MARR Matt Morrison Mary Shannon Bglan,Keerglan
1807 Feb MARR John Morrison Mgt Morrison Glenadagh,Kilfian
1815 15-Jan MARR Matt Morrison Mary Shannon Glenadagh,Kilfian
This one, below, is the only Morrison entry in the Catholic Register:
YEAR PAGE MONTH CHILD FATHER SURNAME MOTHER SURNAME
1807 IGI 28-Feb MARRIAGE Thomas O'Donnell Ann Morrison
As far as port of departure goes I can't say for sure. People from Mayo left from Killala, Galway, Queenstown (Cobh) or even went to Scotland then possibly to English ports. In the 1840s there are very few ways to determine is found might have found the correct family in the Emigration papers because the passenger lists were so vague- first and last name, sometimes an age, where they were from-which would be listed as Ireland
. Not much else.
Diski
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Wow thankyou there Diski :)
Nowon this list there is 2 matt Morrison's and Mary Shannon's on set being 1807
from Bglan , Keerglan (?is this another distric area also) and the other 1815 Glenadagh are these the same people?Just 8 years apart !! Does Marr mean married on this date? How do I find these questions out? I thankyou for your reply . Also is there any maps out there that would show this Glenadagh or is this area now long gone?
Thanks again
Diane
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Hi Diane,
Matt was from Ballinglen, in Doonfeeny Parish, Poorlaw Union of Killala. Mary from Keerglan in Kilfian P, PL Union of Killala. Glenadagh is also Kilfian P, PL Union of Killala. All these parishes are north of Crossmolina. If you wanted to look at that film you may very find more christenings. I just pulled those Church of Ireland that related to Crossmolina district. If you go to the Caslebar Library they may have parish maps on line. Try a google search for North Mayo parish maps-or even a general map. Or try just typing in the villages and maps to see what comes up. Since these christenings were North Mayo, there may be web sites that have more christenings for you. That would be another google search!
Good Luck!
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Hi Diane,
Thank you so much for doing this!!!
I would be so grateful for any information you might be able to give
me on my grandfather "William McGoff". He was from Crossmolina
(Enagh Beg). He married my grandmother Margaret Hegarty. I think his mother and father were John McGoff & Mary Sweeney. And he had three children:
Mary Rita, Martin & Kathy (my mom, uncle & aunt). I really want to trace his roots even further back. I only have one picture of him, and am hoping to find someone somewhere who can point me in the direction of more from throughout his life...
Thanks again - so very much! Cheers for now -
Brenda
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Hi Brenda,
Well, you and are cousins! I met your mom and aunt at the Sweeney Reunion I held back in 2005 in Westport and Crossmolina. What a dear woman she was to me. She sends a Xmas card with pics of the grandkids every year, which is a great gift to those involved in family genealogy! I plan to send a card & pic this year but was waiting until the Xmas rush is behind me. Tell your Mom Hello for me & a card is coming soon ;)
Your mom has given me an acct of your family, and you are correct in saying that William was son of John McGoff and Mary Sweeney. Mary is sister to my great grandfather John Joseph Sweeney who emigrated in 1882 to Massachusetts. John is son of Patrick S and Catherine Connor of Enaghbeg.
I have a letter from Johns daughter Ellie (who married Walter Burke and raised family in Mass) but would like to send it via Email.
I'lll be thrilled to exchange family info with you. Please email me at my hotmail (*) and we can chat more.
Diane Sweeney Groman
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Oh MY GOSH!!!!
Hi Diane,
I am so amazed! How funny, I thought for a minute that maybe we were related when I saw "Sweeney" in your name. I don't believe it - how cool
is that. We were just talking about the reunion...
I will email you, and you will know it's me from: brynze
Take care for now,
Brenda
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@ Margym 317...
I am Anthony Carolan's great great grand daughter and our ancient family photo album contains some pictures taken in Quebec. Can I help?
JRyan
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Hi Diski, would you be kind enough to see if you have any Church of Ireland or Tithe records of Ormsby's from around Crossmolina prior to 1850. There were Ormsby's in Gortnaraby, Cloghans, Rinagry, around Ballina and as far north as Ballinglen and Killeena in Doonfeeny, some of whom probably used the C of I church in Crossmolina. Thank you in anticipation.
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This is on an excel spreadsheet:
YEAR MONTH NAME FATHER SURNAME MOTHER SURNAME RELATIONSHIP RESIDENCE EVENT
1803 28-Sep Tho John,Esq Ormsby Eliz Gortnerabby Christening 897365
1804 18-Feb Eliz Ormsby spinster Richmond Burials 897365
1804 CONFIRM Isabella Ormsby Confirmation from Killala Reg 897365
1804 CONFIRM Ann Ormsby Confirmation from Killala Reg 897365
1805 30-Mar Wm Ormsby Lecarrow Burials 897365
1805 24-Jan MARR Geo Ormsby Cath Bourke spinster Rungrey,TobernaveenAdergoole MARR 897365
1807 28-Aug MARR Tho Ormsby Mary Moore Ardagh,Agoole MARR 897365
1808 2-Sep John Ormsby Esquire Gortnerabby Burials 897365
1811 22-Feb MARR Chas Ormsby Jane Askins Rathrea,Kirkawalla MARR 897365
1813 18-Jul John Ormsby Esquire Gortnerabby Burials 897365
1817 CONFIRM Belinda Ormsby Confirmation from Killala Reg 897365
1817 CONFIRM Jane Ormsby Confirmation from Killala Reg 897365
1817 CONFIRM Mary Ormsby alias Moore,widow Confirmation from Killala Reg 897365
YEAR PAGE MONTH CHILD FATHER SURNAME MOTHER SURNAME RESIDENCE WITNESS WITNESS WITNESS WITNESS
1805 IGI 24-Jan MARRIAGE George Ormesby Catherine Bourke None None None None None
1861 105b Nov Patrick Thomas Ormesby Winifred Brogan CR Ned Brogan Rose Cormick
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Good morning, I have just noticed your really kind offer I wonder if you would be able to help me. I am desperately trying to trace my husbands family. I have just spent a wonderful weekend in Ireland and met many fantastic people who suggested I try your forum.
I am trying to trace my husbands family to form my family tree, his grandfather was born on 7/7/12 registered as Michael John McConnell or McDonnell Moyles in Edinburgh born to a Margaret Moyles, father unknown. Margaret Moyles was listed as having no fixed abode and working at a chocolate factory. Margaret came from County Mayo, Ballina, Crossmonlina, Foxford area. Michael was sent back to live with his grandparents when he was about 7 or 8 and was bought up by her family there, we are not sure if she returned with him, or is she married or if she died.
When Michael was in his mid late teens he moved to Leeds to live with an Aunt or Uncle, North Street, Dewsbury Road area. Whilst living in Leeds I believe he also referred to himself as Dennis Moyles (or Michael John St Dennis Moyles). There is talk that he worked on a fairground in Leeds and was possibly a prizefigther and MC at an Leeds Irish Club. In the late 1930s he moved to Lowestoft in Suffolk, to join the merchant navy in WW2.
I have looked at some family trees and think the following could be likely Margaret Moyles born 1884 to John Moyles and Bridget Moyles (nee McHale) they are listed at Derreen on the 1901 census. Does anybody know of their whereabouts on the 1911 census?
Johns parents were Terence Moyles and Mary McDonnell and Bridgets parents were Martin McHale ad Margaret McHale from Keelogues. Does this ring any bells with anyone? Can anybody please tell me what happened to this Margaret?
I wonder does Crossmolina church hold confirmation records as I would imagine he would have been confirmed when he was a teenager?
All our Moyles are petite with black hair, if this helps. Any clues would be really appreciated. Please be assured all replies will be treated with the utmost discretion as we would hate to cause any family upset. It would just be lovely to know the roots of the family to pass to our son, we know of no other Moyles family!
Thanking you in anticipation.
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Hi Diski, Thank you so much for kindly posting the Ormsby records. This will keep me busy for a few days. Are these records from St Mary's church in Crossmolina, and am I right in assuming that there are no surviving Ormsby records prior to 1800? Thank you again.
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Yes, these are from St Marys. But I just 'happened' to copy them because I was only interested in my Catholic relatives at the time. So there is very likely more records for the COI registers. I have not done any research in COI so I don't know whats available.
The series of 5 volumes by J. F. Quinn, 'The History of County Mayo' would very likely have more on the Ormsby family though. Also The History of Crossmolina by Tony Donohoe also has a bit of info on the family. You might very well get good results on a google search too. Concider using google.ie search engine-that might have better results. They were major land owners so there is surely info out there for you on the internet.
Don't forget the surname message boards in Ireland as well. Good luck!
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Girl Rose,
Church registers filmed by the LDS end about that same time, so unfortunately I can't help with Margt birth, but you can do an on-line search of the index to see what comes up. I believe Rootchats has a link under Ireland-General, or maybe someone out there can help us with the link to Ireland births index. I really must do a better job at keeping those links handy myself. Sorry!
I also sent your request to a friend, she may some info that can help on the Moyles.
Here is the 1911 census results for moyles in Derreen:
First LAST RELATION AGE Birth ear OCCUP M,S,W YRS,# CO BIRTH
John Moyles Head 72 1839 m Mayo
Bridget Moyles Wife 68 1843 m 40/10/8 Mayo
Bridget Moyles Dtr 16 1895 s Mayo
Peter Moyles Son 14 1897 s Mayo
It appears had 6 other children that are still alive in 1911, so Margt could be one of them. I also did a search for a Margaret, and there were none in Crossmolina in 1911, so she may have gone to Scotland by then for work.
I found one entry for Terrence:
YEAR PAGE MONTH CHILD FATHER SURNAME MOTHER SURNAME RESIDENCE WITNESS WITNESS WITNESS WITNESS
1846 50 2-Sep John Terence Moyles Mary McDonnell South Carrowgarve martin McDonnell Ellen McGowan
I suggest you concider going to the North Mayo Genealogical website and sending an email to see if they can help. There records are more complete since they have cemetary records and all surrounding parishes too.
You can also do a search for Margt Moyles from this site as well I believe.
http://www.mayo.irish-roots.net/Centres.htm
I'll let you know if I hear from my friend.
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Thanks soooo much for your help, really appreciated, I think you are correct in her leaving Ireland for Scotland for work, this makes good sense. I shall check the census for 1911 in Scotland when it is released later this year. Would be wonderful if your friend could help as I think the answer to this mystery is going to be local knowledge.
Thanks once again, hopefully hear from you again in due course, do thank your Friend for me x
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Thanks soooo much for your help, really appreciated, I think you are correct in her leaving Ireland for Scotland for work, this makes good sense. I shall check the census for 1911 in Scotland when it is released later this year. Would be wonderful if your friend could help as I think the answer to this mystery is going to be local knowledge.
Thanks once again, hopefully hear from you again in due course, do thank your Friend for me x
Please see main thread re Moyles family to prevent duplication of information
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=517754.new
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Hi Diski, Thank you again, you have been most helpful.
Yes, these are from St Marys. But I just 'happened' to copy them because I was only interested in my Catholic relatives at the time. So there is very likely more records for the COI registers. I have not done any research in COI so I don't know whats available.
The series of 5 volumes by J. F. Quinn, 'The History of County Mayo' would very likely have more on the Ormsby family though. Also The History of Crossmolina by Tony Donohoe also has a bit of info on the family. You might very well get good results on a google search too. Concider using google.ie search engine-that might have better results. They were major land owners so there is surely info out there for you on the internet.
Don't forget the surname message boards in Ireland as well. Good luck!
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Thank you Heywood!
Rose Girl,
The register that I have does not cover Confirmations, but perhaps if you write the Church itself they may have those records. My register from FHL # 1279204 covers Christenings and marriages only for ca 1830-1880.
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Thank you Diski, will do as you suggest. Everyone is most helpful, many thanks.
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Hello Diski, I am new to this and would welcome any information you can give me. Here is the information I already have:-
My mother - Mary Moyles DOB 01/08/1923, she had 9 brothers & sisters.
Her father Michael Moyles, her mother Kate Moyles (nee Barrett, originally from Lahardane) They lived on a farm in Derreen but Boughadoon was found on some letters after my mothers death.
Townland - Derreen, Parish - Crossmolina.
I would like to know my grandparents DOB's, Marriage, date of death. Any info on my grandparents brothers/sisters/parents, in fact anything would be good.
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Hello Diski, I am new to this and would welcome any information you can give me. Here is the information I already have:-
My mother - Mary Moyles DOB 01/08/1923, she had 9 brothers & sisters.
Her father Michael Moyles, her mother Kate Moyles (nee Barrett, originally from Lahardane) They lived on a farm in Derreen but Boughadoon was found on some letters after my mothers death.
Townland - Derreen, Parish - Crossmolina.
I would like to know my grandparents DOB's, Marriage, date of death. Any info on my grandparents brothers/sisters/parents, in fact anything would be good.
Hi Midnight Lady,
I have just replied to your other post re the census information which gives details of Michael Moyles' family (I hope).
heywood
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First, I was hoping to find a marriage or christening for someone in the family, but my record stop in the early 1880s so no luck there. I did find 2 possible Moyles in the 1901 census:
Doolegue Beg, Michael 36, Catherine 28 (wife) Ellen 1y daughter Also with the family is Julia Donnelly, a 12 0r 17 y old niece. Age was difficult to read. Another, which I feel could be your family:
Derryhillagh: Michael 36, MARY 36, Catherine Barrett 80 MoLaw, John 10, Tho 8 Ant 6, Bridget 2.
Let me know if either of these could be your family, then I will dig further into the right family.
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thank you for your help so far. I have posted 2 messages and also had a response directing me a Moyles on the 1901 census. I feel pretty certain that my great grandfather is a John Myles on the 1901 census, married to a Bridget Moyles and my grandfather Michael Myles is listed as being aged 7 on the 1901 census, address 11 Derreen, Letterbrick. There is some discrepancy with ages of John & Bridget Myles, now listed as Moyles on the 1911 census but I think its the same people. It appears my grandfather possibly worked in a different household 1911 as a servant with a family named Cleary. My grandmother Kate Barrett I tried to track down, found one on 1911 census aged 7 at 8 Derreen, Letterbrick although my mother told me she came from Lahardane it would make sense it this was the one as my grandfather Michael had quite a bit of land. The address for John Myles/Moyles on 1911 is 9 Derreen.
If these are the right ones I would guess that my grandparents married around 1920 given the ages of aunts & uncles. They had 10 surviving children - Michael(mick), Mary (my mother born 1/8/23) Bridget(Bridie), Kathleen, William(Billie), John,Peter,James(Jimmy),Margaret plus one other who is still alive and therefore not named.
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Well, there is very little info after the 1911 census, but I do have 2 books-History of Crossmolina and Addergoole, Its land and People. I was hoping that I could find some info in them-I looked in Addrgoole history of Bogadoon, and there is no mention of Barrett or Moyles in the townland down thru 1833. In the index for Crossmolinas history, I looked for Moyles in Derreen and in 1850 a John Miles having land & house. Also in 1909-1910 there was John Moyles still living there. In the Letterbrick National School for 1873 (which Tony Donohoe the author, so thoughtfully provided for us) there is a Michael Moyle, age 20, from Derreen, his father is a farmer. In 1930s, there is Michael Moyles living there. Tony often listed some marriages or christenings that he had found in each townland, but there were no Moyles listed.
I looked up Margt birth ca 1884 (from 1901 census) on a mayo ancestors site, and they listed a Margaret born 1882 to JM & BT of North Mayo. I looked in my database and found
Marriage of John Moyles and Bridget Tolan 28 Jan 1877 in Carrowgarve
Patrick born 1 Jan 1878 in Derreen
Bridget born 28 Jan 1881 Derreen
The Crossmolina register is pretty scant after 1870 so I didn't find anything more
Hope its of some use to you!
Diski
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I can't help but take you up on this offer. I am traveling to Ireland next month and would love to be able to visit a specific place in County Mayo.
I recently came across the names of my great-great-great grandparents in a list of early couples in County Mayo. Their are listed as being married in Crossmolina in Feb. 1833. Currently, the only information I know for sure is that Francis (Frank) O'Boyle was born in 1795 in Mayo and married Margaret Walsh (sometimes Welch or Welsh) born in 1799 in Mayo. They had four children in Mayo before leaving for Canada in 1848: Timothy O'Boyle born May 1837, Francis O'Boyle born Dec 1840, Daniel O'Boyle born 1844, and Margaret born 1842
OK. I guess I have a lot of info., but it still would be nice to have a specific place to visit. Thanks in advance for any information you can give me!
Moderator's Note: If anyone can help with more information about this query please reply on the new thread here: www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,462674.0/topicseen.html
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Noticed your question about O'Boyles in Crossmolina. Your Francis born in 1799 could be a relative to my Solomon O'Boyle born around 11804 in same area. He married a Mary Judge. Bob
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Hi
The only one I have that early is a Thomas O'boyle marrying Feb 6 1833 to Margaret Walsh in Carrowcloghagh. Witnesses were John Hunt and Bridget Walsh.
Remember my warning abt the records-records were very faded, missing, and my interpretation of the handwritting could very well be incorrect I did the best I can.
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SWEENEY Edward born 1816
wife Barbara Walsh born 1831
Children Belinda born 1848
Maria Ann born 1851
Kate Mary born 1861
Michael born 1862
Celia born 1863
Eliza born 1864
Agnes born 1865
Thomas William born 1868
Albert born 1870
James
John Joseph born 1858
any help greatly appreciated
Kim
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Hi Diski and others,
On my recent visit to Ireland I read right through the St. Mary's C of I Crossmolina parish records on microfilm at the National Archives in Dublin and found out far more about my family than I had expected. If you're going to Ireland and know what parish your nineteenth century family lived in, I really recommend doing this first. There's a lot you can't get from extracted versions of the registers. Mind you Diski, without your help I wouldn't have known how interesting that parish register was likely to be. Many thanks.
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Hello Diski,
If you can help me, am searching for records of my family in Crossmolina, they are:
John Caden (or Cadden) and his wife Anna (unknown maiden name). I am assuming that they lived in Crossmolina because that is where one of their daughters, Mary Caden immigrated from in 1898. My best guess is that they were both born in the 1840's or 50's but I am not 100% sure. They had at least two daughters, Bridget and Mary. Also, John Caden must have had a brother (with an unknown name) as I found that when their other daughter, Bridget, came to the US, she lived with a cousin, named Ellen Caden (who immigrated from Ballina in 1896), she was living in Jersey City, New Jersey. I am researching the daughters as well, they are:
Bridget Caden, believed to have been born on 07 Feb 1873, she was the older sister. Bridget left the port of Queenstown on 01 Sep 1898 and arrived in the US on 08 Sep 1898. I have a lot of records for her once she arrived in the US, but nothing from her life in Ireland. On her marriage application in the US, she lists her parents as John and Anna Caden. Also, on the ship manifest, it is reported that her last residence was Metogne but I cannot find a match to this place in Ireland. Her sister is:
Mary Caden (or Cadden), born between 1873 and 1881 (different US Census records indicate different years of birth). I know that she departed the port of Queenstown on 21 Mar 1898 and arrived in the United States on 31 Mar 1898. I have a lot of information about her since she arrived in the United States, but nothing from her time in Ireland. The passenger manifest show that she was 19 when she departed, and her last residence was Crossmolina. In the 1900 US Federal Census, she was living with her sister Bridget. On her marriage application in the US, she also reports that her parents were John and Anna Caden.
If there are any birth records, records of siblings or marriage records for any of the above listed people, I would appreciate it. I am pretty good at finding records in the US, but have no experience in searching records from Ireland. If you could point me in the right direction, or see if these names appear in your database would be awesome.
Thank you for your help,
~John
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Hello John,
welcome to Rootschat :)
I think the place would be Mauteoge - 1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1901&surname=&exact=&firstname=&county=Mayo&townland=mauteoge&ded=&age=&sex=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=&birthplace=&language=&deafdumb=&search=Search&sort=surnameSort&pageSize=50)
regards
heywood
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Heywood,
Thank you very much for the information. I would have never guessed Mauteoge, It does not look like that on the ship manifest! What exactly is Mauteoge? I know that they are in County Mayo, but the records are also showing Deel? Are Deel and Mauteoge town or village names or street names? Please bear with me, I am still learning more about Ireland.
Thanks Again,
~John
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Deel is the DED- District Electoral Division - see here -
http://www.castlebar.ie/roots/ded.htm
Mauteoge is the townland - this site is good for finding a townland - http://www.thecore.com/seanruad
http://www.mayolibrary.ie/maps/data/townlands/DFS.htm has a bit of information about Mauteoge which is in the parish of Crossmolina.
You can search for it on a modern map e.g. Google maps
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Hi Diane
I've just registered with Rootschat and saw your post from some time ago, when you were a rookie to Rootschat, re County Mayo and Crossmolina and your offer of help. Are you still offering to look-up records? If so it would be great if you could assist with my research.
I would welcome any information on Michael Convey, born about 1835 in Ireland, county not known for certain but likely to have been Mayo as his brother John, born 1842, gives Mayo as his place of birth in the English 1911 census. I believe his father was James Convey (from Michael's marriage certificate) born abt 1812 in Ireland. James would probably have married around 1830-35 presumably in County Mayo. I don't have a name for James' wife
Michael moved to north-east England where he married Mary Coyle in 1857 in Gateshead. Their son James, born 1858, was my great-grandfather.
Any little nugget of information would be appreciated - haven't been doing this family history business for long but am finding it incredibly addictive and, where Ireland is concerned, very frustrating; and I still have Coyles and Wilkes to chase up yet!
Regards
John Thompson
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Found Michael Convey Babtised 1838 Mayo for full cert log on to http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/index.php
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Hi John,
The surname Convey could also be construed as CONREY CONMEY and CONWAY in my records from Crossmolina. The writting in the registers were/are very difficult to read so sometimes it looked like a v when it was an M. You should be aware of that and be very flexible with spellings as well as ages!
30 Aug 1845 Michael born to James Conmey and Catherine Gallagher of Keenaghmore. Witnesses were Myles Clarke and Catherine Gallagher.
There are Convey in the parish of Moygawnagh, which borders the north edge of Crossmolina. However the registers was not allowed to be filmed by the Mormons so there is no info available.
In the tithe records, taken ca 1833 there is a Edmund Conrey in Eskeragh Lower in Crossmolina Parish. I don't have Moygawnagh Tithe records so you may want to google that.
I also have bits and pieces of National School records and found in Moygawnagh Parish in Glenmore NS ca 1916 (I know its only 100 years to late!):
Glenmore 116 John James Conmy Ballyglass 1916-1922
Glenmore 116 Mary Conmy Ballyglass 1909-1919
Do check out the Rootsweb Co Mayo list and the surnames Convey et al to see what pops up- the mayo list is quite active and there are archives to search as well.
My computer crashed so I don't have access to all my records but will check back here to see whats needed from you.
Diski
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Hi Diski
What a star you are! Many thanks for the information you have provided, there is plenty there for me to look into further. The Michael Convey/Conmey born 30 Aug 1845 looks promising but then the number of given names then was much fewer than today so there may well be a number of Michael Cs with fathers called James! An instance of that is that one of James C and Catherine Gallaghers witnesses was another Catherine Gallagher; a cousin perhaps or mother? You didn't find a younger son John (M's brother) for James and Catherine by any chance?
I am clearly going to have to get a parishes map for Co. Mayo to make any sense of where Crossmolina, Moygawnagh, Eskeragh Lower, etc are in relation to each other. I have the Phillimore Atlas & Index of Parish Registers for England and Scotland and that is a great help.
I've not come across Tithe Records until now but will follow your suggestion and try Google.
Many thanks
John
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You should google Moygawnagh for Tithe records- Mayo county library ay very well have in under there genealogy site.
Besides the inability to clearly read a good many of the names from the register, particularly in the earlier years there was also missing pages or blank pages due to faded ink. Its very possible that there are more names there in the register. You could also try writting to the parish priest in Moygawnagh.
I have a Convey in my family tree-but that is part of my missing data that I backed up but am unable to retrieve. Sadly I can't remember who married whom, but I want to say Cliffords in the 1880s in Moygawnagh. If you do find the mothers surname, ppost another message here and I can search using her name. Good luck!
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Hi Diski
I've been reasearching my family tree for some time now but about to venture into Irish records for the first time. My English mother in law's maiden name is Patten, which was changed from Padden for reasons that are unclear, and the family name is construed as Padon on the UK 1851 census for John Padon. John was b.1825 [calculated from censuses, no exact date] in Crossmolina according to that census [and just Co. Mayo thereafter] and married Mary Golacar. They are living in Mary's mother house in 1851 [also called Mary]....in Hull.....and have their first son William with them [b.1850 in Hull]. So John moved to Hull prior to 1850, and it may be a familiar reason for leaving Ireland at that time, as did Mary and Mary. I would love some pointers on whether records exist for John or potential family in Crossmolina - look like a more common name there than in England at that time, but the Crossmolina link was unknown by my mother-in-law......!
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Hi west2013
The earliest Padden I have is:
Patrick Padden and wife Celia Rowland of Attawalla, son James born Feb 24 1838, witnesses were William (couldn't read last name) and Mary McHale
Thomas P and wife Mary McHale:
Aug 15 1832 Thomas, Mullinmore, wit John Manley & Mary Moffett
July 10 1834 Martin, Attawalla, witness Michael Ruane & Mary McHale
Dec 14 1845 Catherine, Mullinmore, wit Patrick Corcoran and Winifred Padden
Sept 2 1838 Marriage of Martin Padden and Jean McCabe. (no children found to be born to this couple)
Sadly, I have no Johns (that I could read anyway!) Your time frame is very early as well, as most registers didn't start until 1835 or so-that includes Crossmolina Parish.
I have found a researcher on the Padden surname in Crossmolina parish-you may want to contact them. Leave me a Personal message here and I can send you the email address.
In 1838 in the village of Kildavaroge there was a Patrick Padden paying tithes.
The spellings of the surnames was all spelt as it sounded to them. So Patten, Paddon, Patin, Patyn would all be the same name-when reaserching Irish records be very open to spelling and dates. There was no need back then to know your own birthdate until they started the Old Age pensions in 1910ish. I have found over a 10 year span in age calulations in the 1901 and 1911 census beyond the 10 years one would expect between the census!
You may want to see if the North Mayo Genealogical Center has more info as there records are computerized now. There is a fee for them to do a lookup, but they may find more family members too that I couldn't see in the register. They also have Cemetary records-ask them to give you all the Paddens (and varient spellings).
Good Luck!
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Hi Diski,
I am hoping you can help me, I am having real trouble finding information on my great great grandmother who was sent out to Australia as a Famine orphan.
Her name was Mary O'Hara and she was born in Crossmolina, I believe in about 1831 but am not 100% sure. She arrived in Australia in 1848 and was said to be age 17. She was, at the time of departure, in a workhouse in Galway, and came to Melbourne on a ship called the Lady Kennaway under the Earl Grey Scheme.
Some records I have found suggest her parents were James O'Hara and Mary McCann, born around 1890-1910 perhaps?
I don't know of any siblings, as I said she was supposedly an orphan so I'm not sure about other family.
I am also looking for information on her husband who she met out here but he was from Co. Mayo as well. His name was John Richard Bermingham - I don't have anything much in the way of family information for him.
I assume any information I have from after they arrived in Australia will be relatively useless at your end.
I am essentially trying to find out her exact birthdate and confirm her parents' names, to start with. I'd love to know if she had any siblings, if any of them survived, etc, so perhaps if there are any other births registered to those names as parents?
If there is any guidance you can give me it would be so very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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hi was wondering if you could help me find out a bit more about the walsh family who lived on a dairy farm in dooleeg bellacorick ballina mayo?
I found them in the 1901 census and 1911 in dooleeg more Patrick walsh (head) rose walsh (hegarty) wife, sarah walsh (mother),and Margaret walsh (domestic servant).Patrick and rose married in ballina in 1900.
in 1911 there's Patrick (head), rose (wife),bridget (dau),mary(dau),Katie(dau),Patrick(son),peter(son),also sarah walsh (mother)and widow.i think sarah was married to john walsh.
I have a transcript copy from Griffiths valuation with a john walsh as one occupier in dooleeg more ,diocese of killala in the parish of crossmolina and county of mayo.
any info would be much appreciated,as I live in wales and have no way of getting to Ireland any time soon,maybe when my children grow up I could visit there thanks stacey
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Hi knight456
You didn't mention the ages of any of the folks you mentioned in the census, so I can only guess.
I looked for any Sara that was married and had children to any Walsh's. I found the following:
1854, Feb 12 Marriage to Patrick W and Sara Gallagher witnesses were Patrick W and Bridget Slane
1855, Feb 18 Patrick: 1857 Jul 12 Mary:1869, 15 April Mary:1873, Jul 17 Catherine. The register runs dry about that time so I don't have anything to add after that date for christenings or marriages. All children and marriage born in Doolegue.
I also found a John Walsh marrying a Sabina/ aka Sibby Gallagher of Glendavoolagh in Feb 1865.
Also a child Eleanor b 4 March 1866 to Patrick Walsh and Sabina Gallagher of Leamartaun. There are times I wonder if Sibby is a nickname for Sara.
Then I looked for a Sara Gallagher birth in the early register and found a Sara borth 4 Mar 1847 to James Gallagher and Jane Browne in Errew.
Then I looked for a Patrick Walsh and found one born in 1847, Feb 10 to Thomas Walsh and Ann Hestion? of Crossmolina village.The next Patrick was born in 1854 so that would be to late for you.
You mentioned that you thought Patricks father might be John, so I looked up John Gallagher as the father with a son Patrick being born in the 1830-1840 time fram and came up with Patrick Walsh born to John Walsh and Mary Clarke of Keenaghmore on 28 Feb 1847.
I need to mention that the register was very hard to read and my database is my interpretation of the writing. You may want to contact the North Mayo Genealogical folks to see what they come up with. They also have cemetery records so they can verify or add to further children etc from the tombstones.
Diski
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Searching for any info on Francis Morrison born 1810ish and his wife Ann Burrowes think they where married in Mayo but don't know where, Francis gives his birthplace as Mayo and both Catholics.
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Could find no Francis Morrison or Ann Barrowes in my records of Crossmolina. There were several Morrison in the early 1810s in Church or Ireland, and a few in Catholic records. If I were you I would look under Church of Ireland registers as well as Catholic records particularly due to the fact that there are no Catholic records that early. The record below is from COI. James was from Annagh, and Ann (last name not given) from Kilfian. The film has many parishes not just Crossmolina so it may bear more info for you. The film number from the family history library of The Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is #897365
1803 18-Jan Jane Jas Morrison Ann ? Crossmolina
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A cousin and myself have been tracking the family of ANTHONY CARLIN/CAROLAN/CARROLAN and even later on CARLING. However one signature is definitely CARLIN. Anthony (antoni in Canada but by a French recorder) married Margaret DAVID but we seem to agree should be spelled DAVITT.
Anthony and Margaret had two sons, James and Terrance born about 1795 or 1797. So they would have been married about 1793. Terrance with the spelling of CARROLAN bought 200 acres at Grenville, Quebec in 1833 but there is no trace of him. A son of James, another Terrance, says he was from Innisfail in County Mayo. He was born about 1828. James married Mary Doherty so about 1826 or 27 and a sister to Terrance, Catherine was born about 1830.
A Davitt family lived near Straide so we think the family is from around Crossmolina.
Would you know the names of any of the Roman Catholic parishes in this area? We both think the family originated from Derry but until we can find that marriage record we don't know where to spend money for a researcher.
Thanks for you interest in this gripping hobby!
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My great grandparents, Thomas Padden and Mary McHale, lived in Crossolina in the early 1800s. My grandfather and his siblings, Cate and Martin were born from about 1832-1849. Is it possible to find any church records on my great grandparent's marriage, death or birth of their children? Thanks!
Kathleen
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Hi Diski,
Just wanted to say thank you for your help with Mary O'Hara. I will certainly be in touch if I get the chance to travel to Ireland to see what you can suggest for searching 'on the ground'
Thanks!
Melissa
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If anyone who comes across this thread has any ancestors who were part of the Early Grey scheme for Famine orphan girls, please let me know!
Thanks!
Melissa
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Hi Kathleen123
I FOUND THE FOLLOWING, but no marriage record. It appears they lived in the village of Mulinmore South. In 1841 there was a Thomas Padden as tenant, as well as a Micheal McHale and Henry McHale.A subdivision of this area is called Althawalla, there as a Thomas McHale in 1841. Thomas Padden was still there in 1850.
I found the following christenings:
1832 15-Aug Thomas Thomas Padden Mary McHale Mullinmore John Manly Margt Moffet
1834 10-Jul Martin Thomas Padden Mary McHale Attavalla Mich Ruane Mary McHale
1845 14-Dec Catherine Thomas Padden Mary McHale Mullinmore Patrick Corcoran Winy Padden
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Margym317
Do a google search for a map of catholic parishes in Co Mayo.
Here is one:
http://goldenlangan.com/map.html
You will be lucky to find any records from before 1845 though. In Crossmolina parish we have Carolan and Davitt, and Doherty but none as a husband and wife set.
Good luck!
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Hi Jsable1975
I do have this couple-John Caden and Ann Caden. Caden must be her maiden name because it is consistant with all her births:
July 1866 James. wit John Caden and Mary Mulherin
July 30 1867 Michael. Wit Pat and Bridget Caden
7 Apt 1870 Bridget. Wit Thomas Mulhern and Mary Caden
Jan 7 1872 Ann. Wit Pat Barrett Cathern McGowan
27 June 1875 John. Wit Thomas and Ann Caden
Mar 21 1877 Can't read Wit John and Bridget Hefferan
Jan 1881 Can't Read Wit Patrick Cant Read Mary Caden
All were born in Carrowgarve with te exception on the last, and that was Mautoge. There was no obvious marriage records for them.
Hope this helps.
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Hi,
Thank you for offering to do look ups in the Crossmolina Church Records.
My great (x4) grandfather was married at Crossmolina Church 29 Jan 1832. Edward Kelley married Margaret Pugh (her parents were John Pugh and Elizabeth Jane Shannon). Edward was born in 1810 (not sure if he was born in Co. Mayo), Margaret in 1811 (Co. Mayo).
Edward died 24 Oc 1886 in Shelby County, Indiana, US. Margaret died 15 Apr 1881 in Johnson County, Indiana. They had 5 children all born in Indiana.
Looking for any information on Edward Kelley's parents/family.
Thank you again.
Bill
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You have helped me in the past so now I have another clue on our family. Over the past weekend my cousins attended the Brackloon School Reunion. These cousins come from California and stay in Roscommon for 6 months each year. They are very interested in Genealogy so I asked them if they could get any clues about the DAVITT family. Margaret Davitt would be my GGGGrandmother. She came to Canada prior to 1856 where we find a death record. She lived with her son James and his wife Mary (Doherty) at Grenville. Margaret Davitt had a sister, Sarah, who married Anthony McAndrew. Both families settled in Grenville. There are thousands of McAndrews! BUT I do see them at Behmullet, Kilcommon parish. At the reunion a contact was made to the Davitt family and they will get back to me but what I am wondering from you is records from Bangor Erris where this new contact said the Carlin family lived.
We are probably talking different years as I find the James Carlin family settled in Grenville by 1833. Not much in records then. James had a brother Terrance but the only fact I find on him is the sale of 200 acres in his name in 1833. He is later mentioned in the will of James. But there is not death record of this Terrance.
On Facebook for the Brackloon Reunion I found a dedication at the Davitt farm at Brackloon North and I just about jumped out of my skin! What seems odd to me is the distance from Brackloon North to Bangor Erris.
Any hints where to look will be much appreciated.
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I find a marriage in the Church of Ireland records, not the Catholic parish records. The Pugh name was spelled Pue.
1803, Feb 24 Marriage of John Pue and Jane Shannon of Ballynagor, Moygownagh Parish
1810, Oct 6 Oliver Pue, burial in Crossmolina
1817 Sep 13 Henry Pue, widow of Henry, of Touree, Burial
There is no mention of ages, or parents of the burials.
As far as Edward Kelly is concerned, I have no records prior to ca 1835 (as mentioned in my introduction) so I have no info for you. I am sure the Kelleys were Catholic though as there are no Kelley in COI records. The Pugh name is COI.
Sorry I can't help.
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Hi margym317
Sorry but that area is out of my 'expertise'. Perhaps someone else has more knowledge of the area.
I assume you have already googled Bangor Erris Kilcommon Belmullet for church records?
Can any one help?
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Thanks for your help. I am going to find these people before I die! I can use Ncestry at my local library. Next week!
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Thank you for the information Pugh/Pue. Some of the information is new for me. I will keep looking for Edward Kelley, but I appreciate the help! Bill
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After 13 years of searching I think I may have found my CARLIN family. I am told by a new found cousin who lives in Canada that the family name was spelled CAROLAN. This research points me to Bangor-Erris at the town of Glencullen where Denis Carolan married Catherine Malardy. Would you be able to tell me the name of the Catholic parish at Glencullen? Denis was born about 1755. On Landed Estates I find a property owned by ANTHONY CAROLAN but this is after my family moved to Canada settling in Quebec. HOWEVER, this Anthony Carolan may also be related. Our Anthony CARLIN/CAROLAN was married to Margaret DAVID/DAVITT about 1790 but I can only assume in Mayo. ;)
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Hi, Diane! Thanks so much for offering your help. I appreciate your time!
I'm trying to locate birth records for 1 of my g-grandmother's brothers, John Moran. The parents names were James Moran and Catherine Gaughan (Gauhan). They were married Feb 6 1854 (witnesses Martin Rape (Reape) and Mary Kelly . They lived in Lecarrow, Crossmolina. They had 7 children altogether, but I could only find records for 6.
The other sibling's names and birth dates are:
Owen (Eugene) 29 Mar 1862 wit Michael O Hara and Catherine Ruane
Bridget (Belinda) 1 Jan 1865 wit John Costello and Mary Moran
Mary 14 Apr 1867 wit Roger Hegarty and Margaret.Hogan
Margaret 2 Sep 1869
Catherine 3 Jan 1872 wit James Moran and Bridget Moran
Cecilia 24 Dec 1876
John might have been born in 1867, but I'm not positive.
Cecilia is the last child so he is definitely not born after 1876.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Kathleen
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Hi Diski,
I was wondering if you might be able to help me out a bit...I was looking for some more information on my relatives from the area. My great, great, great grandfather, Anthony Granahan was believed to born in the area around 1831, but I do not have any further information on his parents, siblings, etc. If you could please help?
Thank you,
Patrick
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What a great thing for you to do Diane, mine are from Attymass Ballina, don't think it woul;d cover those marriages, but thanks x
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Hi Patrick
The only Anthony I have being born that early is:
1847 27 June Anthony born to Michael Granaghan and Honor Dyra, Res Derreen, Witness Jas Granaghan and Mary Coleman.
How do you know he was born in 1841?
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Thanks Pauline- Its always nice to be appreciated!
Unfortunately you are correct-I don't have any Attymass records.
Diski
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Hi Kat-
Very sorry for the delay. I was vacation for over 2 months.
I have witnesses for Margaret: Mich Moran Mary Gallagher
Witnesses for Cecelia were: William Costello Br Ruane
I was not able to find Johns birth for sure but the one below is a possibility. CR means couldn't read. I have the child down as Mary but since I couldn't read the other names I may has misinterpreted her name too, although I nearly always put a question mark next the name I can't read.
Diski
1867, August, Mary born to James CR and CR of Lecarrow. Witnesses were also difficult to read.
1879 Jan John Patrick Granaghan Bridget Gaughan Coolnabinnia Anthony Daly Jane Daly m Una McDonogh Feb 23 1909 Philly
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I found the marriage of Edward Sweeney and Barbara Walsh and 2 christenings:
Marriage of Edw and Barbara:June 15 1845, of Ballysakerry Witnesses were Michael S and Maria Sweeney
1848, Belinda, of Smithtown No witnesses noted
Nov 28 1868 Thomas William, of Killala district, no witnesses noted
I also have a death of an Edward Sweeney:
November 6 1932, of Cloonfadda, Ballysakerry
This info was obtained by another researcher, not myself. You should check catholic registers in the Northern Mayo area, particularly Ballysakerry parish.
Hope this is what you were looking for!
Diski
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Hello everyone!
I am completely new to this forum. I found it while searching for information on the Kilmurray Cemetery in Crossmolina, County Mayo. That is where my great-great grandparents are buried. I'm trying to find more information about them and on any distant cousins I may have living in County Mayo today.
Here's their tombstone. It is shared with some cousins who died somewhat recently (1983, 1993).
http://goldenlangan.com/graves-km/GALLAGHER,%20Thomas%201934,%20Bridget%201945,%20Thomas%201971,%20Michael%201976,%20Tessie%201993,%20Brian%201983,%20K3.JPG
Would anyone here know how I could get in contact with someone in charge at this cemetery, someone who may be able to put me in touch with my distant relatives?
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,
Mark Gallagher
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Hi,
looking for anything at all on Francis Morrison Born 1812 ish, hope you are not to busy as it looks like you are very popular.
Thanks Kerrill ;D
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Morrison is found primarily in my Church of Ireland records, but sadly there is no record of Francis Morrisons christening.
Do you have any other info-siblings, parents, residence?
I am not able to do a search for the Catholic register as it doesn't begin until 1832ish.
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I found this family using the 1911 and 1901 census:
1901, Richmond
Tho, b 1848, a Farmer
Bridget, b 1854
Children were Patrick b 1886, Mary b 1887, Hugh b 1889, Ann b 1891, Tho b 1892, John J. b1893, Mich b 1895, Bridget b 1897.
1911:
Tho b 1845, DEAF, wife Bridget b 1855. Married 26 years, had 9 children but only 8 living.
Children were: Hugh b 1888, Tho b 1892, John b 1894, Mich b 1896, Bridget b 1899, Kate b 1902.
I have only one entry for a Thomas Gallagher and a Bridget, that is a marriage for Thomas Gallagher and bridget DONEGAN, married 9 March 1884. Unfortunately the church records stop so there are no christenings to this couple. At the time of the marriage the residence was Cloonaragh.
All children listed in both census were single.
Hope that this is your relations!
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Thanks very much, they were Catholics and he married a Ann Burrows but dont know if they where married in Mayo or some other County.
Again thanks very much you are doing a great job.
Yours truly Kerrill
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Looking for help locating a Hugh Morrison in the Doonfeeny, Ballina and Crossmolina area. Hugh Morrison b. 1760 d. 1839 in Pennsylvania, USA. Married Isabella Wilson, b. 1768 d. 1853 in Pennsylvania, USA. Her father was a wealthy man, William Wilson, and she was disowned when they eloped. This Hugh Morrison is related by our Family Tree DNA records to Andrew Morrison, b. 1751 Doonfeeny, his son John Morrison b. 1774 Doonfeeny, and his son John Morrison, b. 1802 in this same area. Hugh is not a rare name, but is not found as often as other names such as Thomas, William, James, John, Joseph and Matthew, his 6 sons. Any marriage, death, christening or burial records would be appreciated. OR, any more information about the Andrew Morrison family in the Doonfeeny area would help. Thank you so very much. Anything I can help you with here in the states?
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Diane;
I am looking for information on my ancestors; John McGlynn (born 1800) and Anna Meehan (born 1820). They were from Crossmolina, village of Rathmoyle which a few kilometers northeast of town. They were married in vicinity of Crossmolina in 1838. They were Catholics. They immigrated to Pickering, Ontario, Canada about 1939 with numerous other families that lived near Rathmoyle / Crossmolina.. Lynotts was one of the families. I am looking for church they were married in.. and possible cemetary where family members could be.
Mark McGlynn
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Hi Mark,
There are McGlynn headstones in two cemeteries near Crossmolina: Leigue, Ballina and Moygawnagh (Old). You can see the headstones online at http://goldenlangan.com/headstones.html .
Also, the map on the above page shows the local cemeteries around Crossmolina.
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Hi Mark,
There are McGlynn headstones in two cemeteries near Crossmolina: Leigue, Ballina and Moygawnagh (Old). You can see the headstones online at http://goldenlangan.com/headstones.html .
Also, the map on the above page shows the local cemeteries around Crossmolina.
Thanks for your quick response. We were in Crossmolina and Ballina just last week and did not find these places. Can you check for marriage record of John McGlynn and Anna Meehan in 1938? Also; John had a brother Anthony McGlynn and he married Mary Meehan 1839? They were all from Crossmolina. Would you think they attended Catholic Church in either Crossmolina or Ballina? We did go to the site of the old Ardagh Church and thought that location was possible since there village of Rathmoyle is in Ardagh Parish.
I appreciate your time.
Mark McGlynn
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Hi Mark
The earliest records don't begin until 1834 and they are very scarce and difficult to read.
In the Crossmolina tithe done ca 1840, I found an Anthony McGlynn and Company renting land in the village of RathMEEL. I have no villages in Crossmolina by that name and assume they meant Rathmoyle.
Anthony rents the land along with other tenants-but we don't know who! Could be other family members or neighbors that share I common the same land for use in grazing or agriculture-generally. This was the only McGlynn in the parish of Crossmolina.
There was a Francis GLYNN in the village of Enaghbeg.
In the Catholic church records, I found the following:
1846, 1 Apr Grace? born to Martin McGlynn and Ann Connelly.
1868, June Marriage of Michael McGlynn to Mary Cafferty.
1878, 20 Feb Marriage of Michael McGlynn to Catherine Granaghan. They had John Michael, born 1 June 1872; Bridget who was born 22 May 1873, and Mary born 25 Oct 1874.
There was also Anthony GLYNN who married Catherine Carabine of Enaghbeg. They had Anthony 12 May 1871 and Catherine 14 Apr 1873.
That is all the McGlynn and Glynn names I have- unless you know of a variant spelling?
In Tony Donohoes book 'History of Crossmolina" he writes the students tht attended Keenagh school in 1873-the was Pat McGlynn, age 9.
Sorry I don't have more for you!
Diski
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Hi there, I am tracing Bridget Ruane nee Martin who I believed married Thomas Ruane. The family story is that she had 3 children, then 3 sets of twins before Thomas went to Chicago. In the 1911 census, they had Thomas, 4, twins Bridget and Ellen, 3, Mary 2, and Maggie one month. Thomas snr was 40 and his mother Ellen was 72. His sister Norah, 30, was officially noted as `idiot'. poor thing.
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Hi there, I am tracing Bridget Ruane nee Martin who I believed married Thomas Ruane. The family story is that she had 3 children, then 3 sets of twins before Thomas went to Chicago. In the 1911 census, they had Thomas, 4, twins Bridget and Ellen, 3, Mary 2, and Maggie one month. Thomas snr was 40 and his mother Ellen was 72. His sister Norah, 30, was officially noted as `idiot'. poor thing.
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Sheron
WHAT is the information you are seeking? Are you looking for Thomas and Bridgets family? Or Bridgets parents, or Thomas's parents. Bridgets birth...?
Please read my introduction. I don't want to waste my time looking for information you aren't interested in, nor do I want to do research that you already have.
Thanks
Diski
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Bridget - if it is B Martin - hailed from Levally Roe, Irishtown. I was told the Ruanes - B and Thomas had 3 sets of twins. I'd love to know via christening records maybe - if that was true. I was also told he then went to Chicago. Are any Ruanes in the area? I have looked thru all your posts and could not see anything of relevance but I did see a reply to suebristol re Ruanes and I cant find it! Thank you.
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Hello sheron and welcome :)
Where does your information come from re Bridget's surname?
You could look at this site http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
You have to sign in at first but it is only your name and there is no commitment.
In the civil records section, it shows a marriage for Thomas 'Ronane' and Bridget Naughton. I think that should be Ruane.
There are also some births which include Ellen and Bridget for 1 January 1908 with a mother, Naughton.
These are all in Ballina district.
If these are correct, it may help Diski to find your family.
Best wishes
Heywood
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I have the census records - the martins lived at Levally Roe/Rockfort in Irishtown. I am pretty sure the record you mention is them. I'd like to know if there were any more twins born to them, as the family said there was. which church would they have used? thank you.
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Hi Sheron,
The birth records I mentioned have a mother with the name of Naughton not Martin.
The only Bridget Martin I can see in Levallyroe is 6 yrs old in 1901
Heywood
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Hi there, I am tracing Bridget Ruane nee Martin who I believed married Thomas Ruane. The family story is that she had 3 children, then 3 sets of twins before Thomas went to Chicago. In the 1911 census, they had Thomas, 4, twins Bridget and Ellen, 3, Mary 2, and Maggie one month. Thomas snr was 40 and his mother Ellen was 72. His sister Norah, 30, was officially noted as `idiot'. poor thing.
If you look at 1911 census, it indicates that Bridget had had 6 children by then and one had died.
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Need to keep checking then - thanks.
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I have had a quick look at Irishgenealogy.ie - the site I gave you. There looks to be more than one Ruane/Naughton marriage because some births are only days apart.
I can only see one set of twins. There may of course have been stillbirths which would not be registered.
You could check yourself. It is free.
Where do you have the name Martin- is it on a record?
Hopefully Diski can check these things.
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Bridget Martin was sister to my g/mother Margaret Martin. Have incl some info on the martins. when i check i am getting mixed up now!!
- this is my g/m story fyi:
http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/my-grans-titanic-struggle-29309821.html
Bridget – born 1883/4, went to US in 1902:
First Name: Bridget Last Name: Martin Ethnicity: Ireland, Irish Last Place of Residence: Irishtown Date of Arrival: Apr 24, 1902 Age at Arrival: 18y Gender: F Marital Status: S Ship of Travel: Oceanic Port of Departure: Queenstown Manifest Line Number: 0005
To stay with cousin Mary Hopkins, 15 Washington St, Hartford.
Married Thomas Ruane/Huane?? Had 5 daughters, three in Chicago. One is Mary, aged abt 82 and lives in Milltown area in arranged marriage. One daughter Philomena died in irishtown after having three children plus three sets of twins in six years. Her husband was Dermott McDermott. He left the children and went to the US while Bridget raised them.
Baptism Record First Name Bridget Surname Martin Date of Christening 2 March 1894 Denomination Civil Parish Parish Kilvine Roman Catholic parish Region South Mayo Father’s Name Thomas Martin Mother’s Name Ellen Mullarkey Sponsor 1 - Name Ellen Martin Sponsor 2 - Name Michael Coyne
Died Jan- Mar 1951, Tuam, age 68 ????
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The first family then - Ruane and Naughton is nothing to do with you, is that right?
I still am confused as Bridget Martin daughter of Thomas and Ellen was only 6 yrs old in 1901 whereas you have her emigrating in 1902 as 18 yrs.
Here is Bridget in 1911 - still at home Levallyroe (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Kilvine/Levallyroe/724088/)
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i am thinking ruane and naughton not - i wondered if they mis-spelled their names - but i think the 1902 emigration might be wrong. sorry!
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I have just added to my post. Bridget was still at home in 1911.
Are you saying that she married in USA though and the twins were born there?
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i dont know - will check with family today.
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Hi-
As I stated in my intro, I have no christenings after the year 1875, so unfortunately I have no info on your Thomas and Bridget family.
I can gather quite a bit on Thomas family however. In 1901, His mother Ellen, 65y a landholder aged (nee Rowland?) live in the townland of Cominch with son Thomas,30y, Celia, 25y, and Ann, age 16.
If you wish to pursue this line, let me know. It sounds like you have some sorting out to do with Bridget Martin/Naughton line.
Happy Hunting Sheron!
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Thanks but I think I have got it wrong - gggrrrrr. Like this website tho. Cant quite work out how it works. Is it all counties? My Martin family come from Irishtown area. does it cover there?
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Hi Sheron,
you have posted on a particular thread on the County Mayo forum. You may prefer to have your own thread re the Martins on the Mayo forum. You may get more responses on there.
If you want this, you can ask a moderator to split your posts off into a new one. Just click on the 'report to moderator' button in the bottom right of your first post and ask if your topic could be split. You could then rename it- or ask for it to be renamed.
heywood
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Morrison is found primarily in my Church of Ireland records, but sadly there is no record of Francis Morrisons christening.
Do you have any other info-siblings, parents, residence?
I am not able to do a search for the Catholic register as it doesn't begin until 1832ish.
Hello, was just wondering if you might have any information on Irwin Morrison, born in County Mayo, possibly in Doonfeeny around 1817. His parents were John and Eleanor. Irwin married Jane Marks in 1836 in Ontario, Canada. The Morrisons may have left Ireland in 1827. I don't know much else but his children were: Henry, George, John, Thomas, Jane, Erwin, Robert, Sarah, and James (which are all quite common). Any info would be greatly appreciated though I looked at the years listed and didn't see much but maybe you could find other children of John and Eleanor as I have no idea where in County Mayo they may have been from. Just found something about a John Morrison from Doonfeeny married to a Sarah Mark who lived in Ontario for a time and thought there might be a connection. Irwin's second marriage is the only thing giving County Mayo as his birthplace. His parents' names are from the same document. Thanks.
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Hi Diski
I'm not sure if your able to help me.
Is Crossmolina near Castlebar?
I have a Matthew Donnelly b 1841c (going with age on death cert) in Co. Mayo near Castlebar ( according to info on poor law record)
Parents .....Matthew Donnelly and Catherine King both dead ( according to info on poor law record and death cert 1890) presuming parents died Co. Mayo.
Matthew has come to Scotland between his birth 1844c and 1858c where he married Mary Moran in Campsie Scotland 1858c (according to their child's birth cert and poor law record . I cant find any cert for marriage to confirm this))
Mary was b 1844c Co, Mayo
Parents...John Moran and Catherine ?
I have not been able to find any details for Matthew Donnelly and Mary Moran in Co.Mayo, any info I have is mostly about their lives when they came to Scotland.
None of their children where born in Ireland.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated
regards Rosie
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Hi Rosina,
No Castlebar is not in Crossmolina parish.
Diski
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Hi Diane,
I have relatives from Co. Mayo. Maybe a town outside of Crossmolina. The names would be Martin Bryon (1805) father Patrick married to Mary ? They have Bridget 1830-33, Mary (1836), Ellen (1839) and Margaret (1843). They leave Co. Mayo to Leeds, England around 1847ish. With or without Mary the mother. She is not listed on the 1851 census with the family in Leeds. Not sure where she died.
The other family from Co. Mayo is Anthony Nallan (1828-30). His father is Michael. Anthony is in Leeds by 1850. I am not sure the Byron family surname is Byron in Co. Mayo. Could possibly be Byrne.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you
Mary
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Hi,
I am researching the MUNNELLY family of CROSSMOLINA. I have found them in the 1901 and 1911 census but would be extremely grateful for any further information you or anyone else may be able to provide. Details are:
JOHN MUNNELLY born abt 1866 in CROSSMOLINA married BRIDGET McNULTY born abt 1867 in CROSSMOLINA. They married abt 1889 in CROSSMOLINA. JOHN MUNNELLY was a TAILOR. I think that the parents of BRIDGET McNULTY were JOHN McNULTY and MARY?
The children of JOHN MUNNELLY and BRIDGET McNULTY were:
Munnelly John born abt 1891 in CROSSMOLINA.
Munnelly Thomas born abt 1893 in CROSSMOLINA.
Munnelly William born abt 1894 in CROSSMOLINA.
Munnelly James born abt 1896 in CROSSMOLINA.
Munnelly Mary Ellen born abt 1898 in CROSSMOLINA.
At some time prior to 11th September 1920 the eldest child John Munnelly (or possibly the whole family) moves to England and John Munnelly marries Ada Jane Evans in Gateshead.
I would really appreciate any information on any of the individuals mentioned above.
Thank you,
Ian Royal
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My gram was born Annie McGoff. She came to America with 3 of her sisters, while her sister Lena and brother John remained behind. Do any of you have a relation to my gram or her siblings?
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=734744.new#new
Another thread here that I shall post any finds to.
Tara
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Hi Courtney
So, I've read over the 27 pages of this thread and it appears that Diane the OP has a connection to the McGoffs.
She was last on here in August so still recently active.
Hopefully she will see this update and get in touch.
Tara
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Thanks Tara.
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Hi
I found no births to John Monnelly/Munnelly for 1866 in Crossmolina town.
I did find one born in 1865 to John M and Sabina Barrett, but apparently the infant died as in 1874 another John is born to this couple.
In The History of Crossmolina, by Tony Donohoe page 189 is a mention of a Munnelly family from Crossmolina town:
'In the next house where Joe Flagherty lived there was a family of Munnelly's, they came from Ballycorroun and they were tailors, One of them, Willie worked as a tailor in Castlebar'.
In the Ballycarroun chapter, there are, in 1830, a John, James, Frs (Francis?) and Hannah Munnelly leasing land from James Paget. In Griffiths Valuation, there is a John and James Munnelly leasing land in Ballycarroun. There is mention of a marriage in 1841 of a Sally Munnelly marring Pat Haran.
Going back to my spreadsheet, I searched for Munnelly's giving birth during the 1860's in Ballycarroun. I found several families, and also included ones that I couldn't read-thus designated 'CR':
YEAR MONTH CHILD FATHER SURNAME MOTHER SURNAME RESIDENCE
1862 March MARRIAGE John Monnelly Sabina Barrett CR
1871 11-Apr Rose John Monnelly Sabina Barrett Ballycarroon
1874 3-May John John Monnelly Sabina Barrett CR
1859 24-Jun John Francis Monnelly Winifred Lyons Ballycarroon
1876 16-Feb MARRIAGE Patrick Monnelly Bridget Monnelly CR
1841 15-Mar Mary Patrick Monnelly Mary Monnelly CR
1861 July CR James Monnelly Mary Naughton CR
1865 30-Dec Patrick Michael Monnelly Bridget Naughton Ballycarroon
1859 25-Mar CR Maria Michael Monnelly Mary Naughton Ballycarroon
1868 April Edward Michael Monnelly Mary Naughton Ballycarroon
1863 May John Michael Monnelly Mary Naughton Ballycarroon
1876 June Peter Michael Monnelly Mary Naughton Ballycarroon
1877 14-Mar MARRIAGE Patrick Monnelly Margaret Naughton CR
Then I looked up a William Munnelly. I found no male named William under fathers, husband, or sons being born to a William (or any Willie, Will, Bill, ect). Its possible William was born during that the records were missing or I couldn't read the writing.
I have a Mary, Bridgie and Ellen Munnelly attending Enaghbeg Nat'l School in 1912 whose residence is in Ballycarroon- no parents listed.
For McNulty info, again I found no Bridget born within a five year span of 1867. So here are all the John and Mary McNulty couples:
YEAR MONTH CHILD FATHER SURNAME MOTHER SURNAME RESIDENCE
1872 11-Feb MARRIAGE John McNulty Mary Clarke Tawnakeel
1857 26-Aug MARRIAGE John McNulty Mary Corcoran Letterbrick
1879 Feb Eleanor John CR McNulty Mary CR McNally Rcostello
1858 21-Nov Mary John McNulty Mary Doherty Keenagh
1858 16-Feb MARRIAGE John McNulty Mary Doherty Keenagh
1860 March Patrick John McNulty Mary Doherty Keenagh
1868 19-Jul Michael John McNulty Mary Doherty Keenagh
1862 April John John McNulty Mary Doherty Keenagh
1864 May Peter John McNulty Mary Doherty Keenagh
1870 Nov CR Maria John McNulty Mary Doherty Keenagh
1873 6-Apr Catherine John McNulty Mary Doherty Keenagh
Hope I have been of some help!
Diski
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Hi,
I do have Byron in my family so have a lot of that name outside Crossmolina parish. I have found a potential match in Backs parish. I have no other info for this family, but I believe Backs church records were filmed by the LDS on film # 1279205 item 5-8. You can always do a google search to see what shows up.
1836 Mary Cate Martin Birrane Mary McDermott Corrabaggin,Baches
1838 Eleanor Martin Birrane Mary McDermott Corrabaggin,Baches witnesses: Patrick Birrane Mary ?
Diski
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Hi,
Its hard to say, but Im excited!
You didn't mention the time from your Annie was born-that would be easier to know what generation we are talking about. Who did Annie marry? Did she live in Massachusetts?
Do you have McGregor, Burke, Sweeney, Logan, Hegarty, and /or Enaghbeg in common with your McGoffs?
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My gram Annie was born in May, 1915. She married Edward Felmet when she arrived in America. I don't think she ever lived in Massechusets though.
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I think that Lena married a Enaghbeg though
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Hi Diski,
Thank you for all that information, I am working my way through it all slowly.
You mention The History of Crossmolina by Tony Donohue and on page 189 a family of Munnellys. Do you know what year that would be?
Cheers,
Royaly
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It was written by an 'Old Timer', Joe Flaherty in 1976. Tony referred to him as the late Joe Flaherty, I have no idea how old he actually was by suspect he was old enough to have been very valuable to Tony Donohue as far as old memories of Crossmolina. I am going to take a wild guess and say he was born probably in the early 1900s, so say these memories may be 1920-1950 ish. But it is only a guess!
Diski
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Hi Courtneyanne98,
Your Anne McGoff is daughter to William 'Phillip' McGoff and Katie Gilroy of Enaghbeg/ Enabeg. Lena was the sister that stayed behind in Crossmolina, and she married Mickie Isaac Sweeney, cousin of my Great grandfather John Joseph Sweeney. Ihave had the great honor of meeting Lena in 2005 when I held a Crossmolina Sweeney reunion. She allowed us to see the old homestead that was built in 1805 where all the Sweeneys were born and raised. What a fabulous experience, and one I hope to repeat this summer.
Please post your email in my personal message box so we may continue to correspond and share info, and thanks for reaching out!
Diski
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Hello Diski,
I am a direct descendant of Edward McKey of Crossmolina. All I know about my ancestors in Ireland is below and I hope to fill out the story more and even further back in history if possible.
Upon leaving Ireland during the famine Edward an his brother were greatly successful in the Upper Midwest of the US, investing much of their wealth in Chicago real estate where the McKey influence continues to this day.
Edward's mother Maria Forrester also came to the US for Crossmolina and I seek any ancestor info on that branch also.
Any info available that you can share about Mckey and/or Forrester in Ireland is very greatly appreciated. Cheers! Bryan
From: "Carol"
Subject: [WI-Rock] Edward & Michael McKey bio, Forrester, Wood, Stevens, Tole, Folds
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 18:13:32 -0500
From Portrait and Biographical Album of Rock County, Wisconsin, publ. 1889 - page 357-358
EDWARD McKEY and his twin brother Michael, were for many years prominent citizens and business men of Janesville. The following sketch of these gentlemen is taken from the Wisconsin Volume of the United States Biographical Dictionary.
Edward and Michael McKEY were twin brothers, born at Crossmolina, County Mayo, Ireland, on the 18th day of September, 1821. Their parents were Thomas and Maria (FORRESTER) McKEY. The brothers received their education mainly at home and at a private school in the neighborhood. At school they showed great precocity and while excelling in their studies generally evinced a marked aptitude for history and literature. They left school at the early age of fifteen years and were apprenticed to the dry goods business, entering the establishment of the leading merchant in that line in their native town. Although mere boys, they displayed unmistakable business qualifications and after four years of their apprenticeship had expired, prevailed upon their employer to release them from the indentures, still however remaining in his employ.
In 1840, Edward visited the United States, remaining for about six months.
At the age of twenty-two, (1843) the brothers commenced business (in Crossmolina) on their own account and soon developed a flourishing and extensive trade, which they carried on successfully until 1846, when they were overtaken by the great famine of that year which involved nearly the whole business career of the Island in ruin, and from which they, with every one else, suffered every severe losses. The young brothers, however, were full of energy and well directed ambition and determined at once to retrieve their fortunes in another land.
In the early part of 1847, they carried out their intention, emigrated to America, and located at Little falls, N.Y., buying out the business of N.H. WOOD, in the fall of the same year. While at that place, rumors of the resources and capacities of the great West reached their ears and like many others these marvelous reports attracted their serious attention. They therefore resolved to make another change and accordingly in 1849, removed to Wisconsin, opening a mercantile house first at Racine and shortly afterwards another at Janesville.
The full bio is at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/WIROCK/2002-08/1030144266
And... I just saw this info about Maria Forrester (Edward's Mother) at http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=57023285
Maria Forrester McKey
Birth: 1799, Ireland
Death: Nov. 17, 1868
Janesville, Rock County, Wisconsin, USA
Wife of Thomas McKey of Crossmolina, County Mayo, Ireland. Thomas died in Crossmolina "at age 60" according to parish records, on May 25, 1857. His widow Maria immigrated to America with their youngest child shortly afterwards to join their other children who were already there.
Children:
Edward and Michael (twins)
Ellen
Richard
Thomas
Elizabeth
John Martin
Albert
Robert Forrester
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My ancestors worked on the John Walsh Estate in Castlehill, Crossmolina, aprox 1833-1864. All were Roman Catholic, Addergoole Parrish. Family Names:
1: Martin: Mary Martin (born late 1700s, died 1867..or so), widow, married to a John Martin. John listed on Griffins valuation. Children: son Thomas (my great geat grandfather) and daughter, Bridget. May be another child born to Mary but cannot find any record.
1a: Winifred Martin, Thomas's daughter (my great grandmother), born/baptised about 1848. Married a John Curley, perhaps before emigrating to America. can find no record in Americ a fany marriage.
2: Kerby: John Kerby. John listed in Griffins Valuation. His Daughter, Mary, my great great grandmother, married Thomas Martin aprox.1847. No record of her mother's name, or any siblings.
Any information or leads you may have would be greatly appreciated.
Clarro
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I am searching Gillespie, Sabina born ~1837. Married Denis Lynn and lived in Dooleeg More.
Any connection?
Jack
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As always, I appologise for the vey late response!
I have no McKeys in the database at all. You can read my intro concerning the records, but the time frame for your ancestors is earlier than my church records begin. I tried looking for just Thomas and Mary without using given names and came up with nothing.
Do you have another spelling variant that I could try?
Same goes for Forrester-none that early. I also checked Forrestal, which is more common-but again its far to early for the church records.
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Hi Clarro
I could find no records for your family. Do you have a village name for them? That may help when the early records are so difficult to decipher.
Strangley enough, I have no males using the Kirby surname but do have females. However, none marrying into the Martin line.
I also have no Martin females marrying into the Curley line.
If they were from Addergoole, you should of course, look in those records as well. That might be your best bet.
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Yes, I have a good many names in the register for this couple. The spelling variant for Lynn were Leymon, Lemin,Lyon, Lamin...:Sabinas name was written Sibby, and sometimes as Sarah.
Aug 1861 Rose: 17 Dec 1848 Mary: 1 Dec 1850 Catherine: 17 Feb 1855 Sabina: Feb 1857 Sibby: 13 Mar 1859 John: 22 June 1865 TWINS Patrick and Margaret: 17 Dec 1852 Margaret (must have died): 23 Jan 1870 Thomas.
Witness were (all Lynn surnames-) Michael John, Patk, Hugh, Cath.,Mary. Tho and Cate Gillespy, Mary Gillespy, Sibby Gillespy, and Mary Dyra.
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Diski
Thank you very much for this information. I would appreciate any additional information that you may come across.
Also, what is your opinion regarding these two people? 17 Feb 1855 Sabina: Feb 1857 Sibby
Lynns were from Dooleeg/Dooleegmore.
Again, a big THANK YOU!
Slainte, Jack
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Hi JackK
I assume that the first Sabina b 1855 died. You may want to contact North Mayo Heritage center and hire them to 'give me all records pertaining to Gillespy'- you may get more info-with family groups.
I did that with my Sweeneys and it was very enlightening. There are a lot of Gillespies though and I don't know how much they charge.
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Hello there
Thank you for the offer to look up records. I have been trying with little success to learn more about the Moffat and Roe (Row / Rowe) side of my family.
My 6th GGmother is Margaret Moffat, b ~ 1775 in Crossmolina. I have William Moffat (1750?) as her father but otherwise a deadend.
She married James Roe (Row? Rowe?) of Knockbawn, although I have no record of the marriage.
They had a number of children, including Margaret Rowe (b. ~ 1797), Jonathon Rowe (b~1801), William Roe (?b. 1808?) all in Ireland (not sure where ... Crossmolina?) and then in 1809 I find them in Ayrshire, Scotland.
Do you know why families left the area for Scotland around this time?
Thanks for any help you can provide!
Ebeth
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Hi Ebeth,
I am not a scholar on the subject but have heard that many left Ireland to work in Scotland digging tatties (potatoes). It was part time employment-possibly in summer but not sure. They often brought young children too if they could dig. I want to say they went for 6 months and then, when the work was done they came back via boats. I would imagine some stayed if they found work that extended there stay. Domestic servants and farm labors were needed skills.
I did find a James born 11 Apr 1775 to an Alexander Roe and Mary (maiden unk) in Knockbaun. This was from Church of Ireland records. There were other Rowe/Row in the townland as well
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Potato harvest would have been in the autumn (same as in Ireland)- a generation or two children in rural schools here in Northern Ireland would have gotten week off school end of October for tattie gathering ;)
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Hi,
If this thread is still alive, I'm looking to find Gough records for Crossmolina. I've an ancestor John Gough, who shows up in Halifax, Yorkshire, England in a marriage in 1845. On the marriage certificate it names Mark Gough (a farmer) as his father and in all census records from 1851 onwards it gives birth place as Mayo, Ireland. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, Andy Gough
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http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0745
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Hello Andy and welcome.
This thread is specifically for Crossmolina records. If your query is for Mayo in general, it would be best to start a separate thread.
If you click on 'report to moderator' you can ask for your post to be moved and created as a separate topic for the Gough family.
Regards
Heywood
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Death results for Mark Gough
No Civil Registry results found. irishgenealogy
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I have just seen a tree - perhaps yours- where you have John in Crossmolina married to Bridget Dooher.
Was he a widower on his marriage in Halifax?
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Yes, that could be mine, its something I added recently based on an ancestry record that was returned via a hint, people seem to copy every theory I've created and removed. John is stated as a bachelor on the marriage certificate.
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Yes, that could be mine, its something I added recently based on an ancestry record that was returned via a hint, people seem to copy every theory I've created and removed. John is stated as a bachelor on the marriage certificate.
Then set it to Private!!
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I am confused- are we looking for a Mark Gough, or John and Bridget (Dooher) McGoff?
Soundlamp, PLEASE read my original post on Crossmolina church records so I don't have to pull info from you. I am more than happy to help but I don't have the patience to filter or assume info.
Also, is your ancestor FROM Crossmolina, or is this a guess?
Thank you,
Diane Sweeney Groman
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Hi diski
My name is Tom Young , my great grandmother was Bridget Jane Dooher, her parents were Anthony Dooher(1841-1881)and Mary McCavock( 1846-1925)I know Anthony's father is John,(1806-1882)I'm trying to find out his moms name, On my heritage it shows his father living in Ballymachola with anthoneys siblings ,Micheal 1836-1870 , John 1840 1935,Catherine 0000-1895 ,Eleanor 1846-1911, Ann, also Mary McCavock fathers name is Michael and I don't know mothers name, any help would be appreciated. Thank you Tom Young
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Hello Diski,
I am seeking Crossmolina records regarding Thomas Mackey. He is the patriarch of the McKey clan who emigrated to Wisconsin and Chicago, USA in the 1840's.
Thomas did not emigrate though all his offspring had gone overseas. Thomas' wife Maria Forrester left for the US with their last remaining minor child after Thomas' death to join her children in the US.
Thomas Mackey is buried in Crossmolina. Any records you may have regarding Thomas MacKey and Maria Forrester Mackey in Crossmolina is much appticiated.
One unanswered question is why the entire family altered the name to Mckey in the US, including the matriarch Maria! https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=57023285
Cheers, BK Marshall
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Hello Youngie1
I also have the Dooher surname in my Sweeney line. I am wondering if you have more info on John, the son of Anthony.I am wondering if we might have a connection here. My John Dooher married Mary Cawley. Do you know more about Michael? Have any of your Doohers gone to Syracuse NY in the late 1890-1920s?
I have a LOT of Dooher info from the One name study I did not just from Crossmolina, but Kilfian, and all parishes in North Mayo, and maybe between the 2 of us we can piece together some logic out of all these names and family groups I have acquired.
I do have three births of Anthony Dooher and Mary McAvock that you probably already have:
Bridget b 1869, Catherine 1871 and Ann 1873. I have no others, nor a marriage for them.
Sadly, the births of Anthony, 1841 and all his siblings, are too early for most Catholic registers.
So rather than look for just John Dooher, I tried to search under Dooher for at least some of the children that were born that early and still no luck. Its just to early unfortunately.
However, through my correspondence in searching out MY Dooher line I have found that my Johns father was also a John, possibly from Cooneal.
We should email privately, as its too much info for this list.I will PM my email address to you.
Diski
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Hello,
I have search all my databases and haven't found any McKey, McKay.. ect. in my Catholic or Church of Ireland vital records. And, as I have stated many times, any time before the 1850s is very early for the registers.And you have the unfortunate timing of being near the famine which of course, decimate the Irish population.
I would suggest you keep a VERY open mind while doing Irish research as far as names and its spellings (dates as well!). Prior to 1900 many names were spelled how the person writing the info down heard it. McKey could be spelled a variety of ways-with or without the Mc or Mac in front, Kay, Key Cay Cey? Imagine yourself hearing the name with a brogue your unfamiliar with. Many people back then couldn't read or write so they couldn't spell it either. You can imagine how messed up records got! As far as dates go, the general population had no need to know birth dates until the Old Age pensions came about. Everything was a guess- dates in the census could vary wildly from decade to decade. Also, the year of birth may need to be 'adjusted' so that they could marry, or join the army.or any other reason. Dates and name spelling are not concrete!
I DID find info on Mackie Macky (can you see how McKey might SOUND like Macky?) but only in COI records:
1804 Confirm Michael Mackin
1817 Confirm Edward and Robert Mackin
May 7 1819 Burial of Edward Mackin, 27y of Knocklegela
1807 Feb 8 Marriage Peter Macky and Mary Peters
I also found this:
Jan 1847 Mary, born to Thomas Macky?? and Eliza Lally, of Crossmolina Town.
(I couldn't read the surname clearly unfortunately).
The records for Church of Ireland covered several parishes but I only copied what was readily available for Crossmolina as I don't have COI ancestors. This was obtained from LDS film # 897365 should you wish to pursue that avenue.
As I mentioned, if you know your family was Catholic, the early records were very poor. See my intro for further explanation of this.
I also looked into the Tithe Applotment and didn't find any McKey Mackie Macky...
All in all, an unsatisfying few hours! Maybe you could check in with North Mayo and ask them for info-they have all cemetery records as well as births. They can also give suggestions for further research.
http://www.northmayogenealogy.com/
I also wonder if the MaKey name originated from another name. I was doing research for a fellow that was looking for the name TWIGG. I found nothing at all even though he was positive they came from Crossmolina. I later found out that the TWIG name came from TOUGHY.... whodaguessed THAT name spelling!? Suddenly I found several records for him. Just saying that is a distinct possiblity since we know they came from Crossmolina and are not finding anything significant.
I also checked the Flax done in 1798 and found no Macky or MacKeys ect. Now the Tithe and Flax does not list EVERONE in the parish, only those participation in the progroms.
Good luck!
Diski
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Hello Diski
I have ancestors that are causing me a headache as I cant find anything about their lives in Co Mayo.
The only information I have is my GGG grandfather was born near Castlebar ( info from poor law record Glasgow)
I'm not sure if Crossmolina is near Castlebar , however if it is would you be able to look this up.
Matthew Donnelly
born 1840c
near Castlebar Co Mayo
Parents..Matthew Donnelly (horse dealer) and Mary Donnelly ms King
Death..4/11/1890 Glasgow( I have this record)
Married.. Mary Moran ( can't find marriage cert)
Mary Moran
born 1840c
Co Mayo
parents..John Moran ( farmer) and Catherine Moran?
Death..18/8/1906 Glasgow( I have this record)
All the information I have about them born in Co Mayo came from poor relief records in Glasgow.
Other than what I already know of their lives in Glasgow I;m afraid this is all the information I have for them in Ireland .
Regards Rosie
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Hello Diski
Mathew Donnelly mother was Catherine King . Not Mary King as I stated in my previous post( should review before I send ::))
Regards Rosie
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R.C. baptism registers for Castlebar began 1838, marriage registers started 1824. Parish is also known as Aglish, Ballyhean and Breaghy. Images of original registers available online at National Library of Ireland website.
www.nli.ie/en/parish-register.aspx
An accompanying note states they are "in great disarray".
Crossmolina is a different parish, some distance north of Castlebar.
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Rosina
Castlebar is a parish or two away from Crossmolina, as mentioned by another blogger.
Good luck to you,
Diski
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This is a PS to my previous post. Some of my family were from Castlebar. Regarding the comment about some of the registers being "in great disarray". I eventually found all baptisms of one family by reading each page for the appropriate time span. I should say "peering at and scrutinising each page". Some transcriptions were way out. I had the advantage of civil birth registrations for the youngest children, so there was a DOB to search around.
Since all you have as a POB for Matthew Donnelly is "near Castlebar" he may not have been born in the parish itself. He may have stated Castlebar as the name of the nearest large town. If you can't find his baptism in Castlebar, search adjacent parishes. At least you have his parents' names and mother's maiden name. If you still can't find him, start a new thread.
Moran is an extremely common name in Mayo. I suggest concentrating on Matthew Donnelly for now as you have more info on him.
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Thank you
Rosie
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Thank you both to Diski and Maidenstone for your advice,. I will take this on board when looking for my elusive ancestors.
regards Rosie :)
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Diski
Thank you very much for this information. I would appreciate any additional information that you may come across.
Also, what is your opinion regarding these two people? 17 Feb 1855 Sabina: Feb 1857 Sibby
Lynns were from Dooleeg/Dooleegmore.
Again, a big THANK YOU!
Slainte, Jack
I'm a descendent of Denis Lynn, here's some info Jack: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Derry/Dooleeg_More/1574479/