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Title: Newcastle Evening Chronicle Death Notice
Post by: barbarad on Tuesday 22 May 07 14:28 BST (UK)
I see from the indexes on Genuki that there is a death notice in the Newcastle Evening Chronicle on 31 May 1905 for my guncle James Robson.  He was 14 at the time of death and died in an accident at the local pit.

Could anyone advise me how to obtain a copy of this death notice, or would anyone visiting the Civic Centre (I think that's where the papers are now held) be able to provide a transcript for me?

Many thanks
Title: Re: Newcastle Evening Chronicle Death Notice
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 22 May 07 15:10 BST (UK)
Have you seen this report of his death on the Durham Mining Museum site?
http://www.dmm.org.uk/names/a1905-57.htm

Barbara
Title: Re: Newcastle Evening Chronicle Death Notice
Post by: barbarad on Tuesday 22 May 07 15:16 BST (UK)
Many thanks Ecnap (Barbara?)

I had seen that report on the Durham Mining Site previously, a most unpleasant way for a young boy to die.

I was just wondering what the paper had actually said, to see which (if any) other family members were mentioned.

Barbara
Title: Re: Newcastle Evening Chronicle Death Notice
Post by: frek on Tuesday 22 May 07 20:12 BST (UK)
There might be an account of his death in the local newspaper and perhaps a funeral notice and obituary. Lots of family information in the latter 2.

An accident would also be noted by a Coroners inquest report in the newspaper.
And if you are lucky the Coroner's actual papers might have survived.
frek.
Title: Re: Newcastle Evening Chronicle Death Notice
Post by: barbarad on Tuesday 22 May 07 20:23 BST (UK)
Many thanks for your reply Frek.

The Newcastle Evening Chronicle or the Newcastle Advertiser would be the local papers, so if I can find out where to access them online I would do so.

Unfortunately I'm about 130 miles from Newcastle, so I can't get to the archives/civic centre in person.

Barbara
Title: Re: Newcastle Evening Chronicle Death Notice
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 22 May 07 20:33 BST (UK)
Barbara,

I'm not sure where you are (other than that you're 130 miles from Newcastle :)) but if you could get to the British Library Newspaper Archive at Colindale they have the Newcastle Evening Chronicle 1885 to date.

Any good to you?

Anna
Title: Re: Newcastle Evening Chronicle Death Notice
Post by: barbarad on Tuesday 22 May 07 20:39 BST (UK)
Thanks Anna

I might manage a trip down there sometime- its only about 150 miles the other way :)

At least I now know that there are archived copies in existence, and where they are.
Title: Re: Newcastle Evening Chronicle Death Notice
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 22 May 07 20:48 BST (UK)
LOL :D

Well, if you're feeling flush you could pay the British Library research service £50 to search up to four newspapers of the same date and report back to you (cheaper than the train fare??):

http://www.bl.uk/services/information/familyhs.html

Or else perhaps a RootsChatter will be going there and can look things up for you - here's hoping ;)

Anna
Title: Re: Newcastle Evening Chronicle Death Notice
Post by: barbarad on Tuesday 22 May 07 20:55 BST (UK)
£50 could well be cheaper than the train fare ;D

I'll have to put it on hold until later in the summer before I could even think about going myself though.

Perhaps some kind soul might offer.  I can hope :)

Thanks for your input

Barbara
Title: Re: Newcastle Evening Chronicle Death Notice
Post by: cass on Wednesday 23 May 07 22:03 BST (UK)
The main library in Newcastle used to have the old copies of the chronicle on microfiche but it is being re-furbished. I did'nt realise that the civic centre had copies. If that is correct I will go and visit in a couple of weeks time as I need to look up something in the chronicle myself. If I do I will look up the death notice for you. Cass
Title: Re: Newcastle Evening Chronicle Death Notice
Post by: barbarad on Wednesday 23 May 07 22:17 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for the offer Cass. :)

I've been told elsewhere that the newspaper collection is temporarily housed at the Civic Centre, while the refurbishment is taking place.   I have assumed that the information is correct.

I have had a PM from someone offering to have a look for me, so please don't spend any time on my behalf.

Barbara
Title: Re: Newcastle Evening Chronicle Death Notice
Post by: Grant45 on Thursday 24 May 07 20:32 BST (UK)
Hello Barbara
Here you are

Evening Chronicle Wednesday 31 May 1905 Page 2

Robson_ Tile Sheds, Scotswood, from injuries received in mine 29th inst., aged 14, James beloved son of John and Annie Robson. Interment at Newburn Thursday; cortege leaving 3pm. All friends kindly invited.

And from Tuesday 30 May 1905

                            FATALITY AT SCOTSWOOD
   An accident whereby a youth named James Robson was fatally injured occurred at Scotswood on Monday. Robson, who had started work a week ago, was employed at what is locally known as " Carr's Pit", the owners ofwhich are Messrs. Walter Scott. He was busy coupling tubs down the mine when it is stated, the set unexpectedly came away, and caught him. When extricated he was found to have been very seriously hurt, both his legs being crushed, one of them severely, while his head was also injured. On being brought to bank he was immediately taken to his home at Tile Sheds, Scotswood, where he was attended by Dr. Dewar, assistant to Dr. Bunting. He was afterwards removed to the Newcastle Infirmary, and there he succumbed to his injuries on Monday night. Deceased was 14 years of age, and was the son of John Robson, who is engaged as a deputy overman at Carr's Pit

                                            Regards
                                                  Grant
Title: Re: Newcastle Evening Chronicle Death Notice
Post by: barbarad on Friday 25 May 07 09:09 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for that Grant ;D.

There are a couple of pieces of information there which I wasn't aware of, including the parents address at the time and the fact that it took the poor boy a couple of days to die.

Tile Sheds does make sense as an address.  The pit was both a coal mine and a clay pit, with a brickworks attached.  The pit had originally been opened by a firm called Carr's - hence the local name of Carr's pit.

Another interesting little snippet is that he was attended by Dr Dewar.  James sister moved to Nottinghamshire about 20 years later, and the family doctor after the move was Dr Dewar.  As there were quite a few Newcastle doctors who moved to the area I wonder if it was the same one?  Something else for me to look into.