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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Powershot on Thursday 18 October 07 14:21 BST (UK)
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Hi i am after any info on the following family,
Joseph Pyke born 1841 died 1910 Ballarat he married Annie Dorothy Buglass in 1867 she was born in 1852 in Sunderland and died in 1910 in ballarat
His parents were John Pyke and Annie Moore
This is all i have not much i know but i am hoping some one anyone can help me.
Thanks
Rachel
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Hello there
Joseph PYKE born Launceston
married Annie Dorothy BUGLASS born Sunderland in 1867 reference no 3355
children were all born Ballarat
Ann born 1870 reg no 301
Mary Jane born 1873 reg no 685
Emily Dorothea born 1874 reg no 13817
Henry George born 1876 reg no 6779
James TTweed born 1879 reg no 20803
Richard Charles born 1881 reg no 13921
William Edward born 1883 reg no 21263
Frederick born 1885 reg no 15231
Albert Ernest born 1887 reg no 16653 died 187 reg no 12503
Arthur Tressileen born 1888 reg no 26484
regards Jenn
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Joseph Pyke born 1/10/1841 at Launceston reg no 855/1842 REG 33
father John Tweed Pyke mother Ann Moore
also had these sibling
Ann Frances born 6/8/1839 reg no 854/1842
John William born 21/6/1837 reg no 853/1842
Mary Dorothea born 11/6/1835 reg no 852/1842
Regard Jenn
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Thanks Jenn anything else you come up with would be great i am trying to trace the pyke line back.
Cheers Rachel :)
I am also trying to trace the Buglass line but have another line of query going with that one otherwise you get confused.
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Hi
http://www.naa.gov.au
has a record for Richard Charles PYKE [ Charles Richard] and contained in it is a little sad/happy story about his lost medal.
You may like to read it .
He was interred alone at Fawkner Crem/Cem in 1959 at 77years.
A letter threin says he never married.
sue
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thanks i will have a look
Rachel
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http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=24
Search by name Buglass here and you will see Dorothy aged 4 arriving with her parents Anne aged 28 and James aged 28 per the Athletae in 1855 to Victoria,
Sue
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Thanks heaps
Rachel
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This contribution on Worldconnect
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi
gives ORD as ANNIE DOROTHY"s mother's maiden name.
I am always very cautious of these contribtions to this site, but you may learn something if you contact the contributor.
Sue
PS EDIT
Enter BUGLASS and death place AUSTRALIA to bring up the page.
PPS The mary cotter contributor is very active on the site and will give you a response to email
Have contacted her myself on other occasions
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Hi Again,
What is the connection between your grandfather Alfred Tressilian Marslen
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,238503.15.html
and this family who have named their child born in 1888 Arthur Tressilian Pyke?
Sue
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Hello there
Sue
most likely the connection is Alfred's mum Annie PYKE is Joseph Pyke's daughter (I am quessing )
regard Jenn
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Hi Powershot,
I may be able to help you with your Pyke/Pike family.
If you think that you have hit a brick wall it's because the Pike/Pyke name was used instead of their given name "Tweed" so that someone could inherit.
Tell me where you are up to and I'll try and come back down your line from the late 1500's.
You may be interested to also see this thread:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,255133.0.html
(hope I have that link right??)
Regards
Di
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Hi Sue,
Jenn has it right they were brother and sister . It may be a old family name. I don't know thank goodness Tressilian and Fearless didn't continue to be passed on.
Rachel
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Hi Di,
Any information you have would be grealtly appreciated i can only go back as far as John Tweed Pyke who married Annie Moore as seen at the top of this page as from there back stale mate but i have only started really looking in to this branch in the last few days.
Cheers
Rachel
p.s for the record John and Annie's son Joseph his
daughter Annie Francis married my great grandfather Fearless Maslen
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Hi Rachel,
Please check the following information as I'm trying to fill in the gap between your lot and mine but they are related!
John Tweed Pyke married Ann Moore 05.09.1833 St Andrews Holborn London (IGI Submitted entry - probably correct but check Parish Register)
John Tweed Pyke was Born 28.07.1806 and Bp 07.09.1806 Birdbrook Essex (again IGI Submitted - probably correct but needs checking - I'm a bit suspicious of the Birdbrook as place of Bp :-\)
NOTE: - skipping a few generations here so you have an idea of where the Pyke/Pike name fits in.
John Tweed (NO PYKE) was Bp 12.03.1712 Stoke by Clare Suffolk. Son of Thomas Tweed and Elizabeth Goldegay
Thomas Tweed married Elizabeth Goldegay (nee Crouch) 3 Jan 1710 Layston Herts (It was her second marriage - her first marriage was in 1686)
Now this is that part that joins my family - and the introduction of the Pyke name.
Elizabeth Crouch (Bp 29.05.1668 Layston Herts)
d/o John Crouch and Elizabeth Baker (nee Pyke/Pike)
Elizabeth Pike was the daughter of George Pike and her name is mentioned on the George Pike memorial Stone on the previous link I gave you.
To fill in some details:
George Pike had one son - called George. Although he married I don't think he had any children as his sisters were listed as his heirs. The estate called Birdwood/Birdbrook in Essex was passed down to the eldest living male heir from the original George Pike.
Consequently, the estate and manor etc came to John Tweed (some reports say his name was John Crouch but with all the name changes it's no wonder everyone, including moi, is/was confused ???).
Anyway, he needed to have the name Pike/Pyke to inherit (I don't know if that was a condition of the original will or a choice he made). So, with an act of Parliament (I believe) he either added the Pyke name to his, or changed his name in full, and inherited the entire estate.
Back to more current times -
John Tweed Pyke had at least three brothers. They all immigrated to Tasmania in the late 1830's. I have been told that they were free settlers but I can't confirm that.
Most of the family remained in Tas but your Joseph Pyke went to Victoria/Ballarat (as per previous posts)
I understand that your great grandmother Annie Francis was one of 13 children born to Joseph.
Phew - I do hope that I haven't confused you totally. Feel free to ask for further information but that is probably enough to start with.
I apologise for any errors in the above - bit early in the morning to be thinking clearly ;)
Hope this helps and happy hunting
Di
PS There are plenty of Pyke descendants remaining in Tas and Vic who are related to the original three brothers.
PPS If you Google PIKE and CROUCH you will get lots of information. Google Books also has quite a few references to the name and the changes.
There are also other "cousins" of yours researching this family.
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Hi Di
Thaks heaps for all of that information i will start adding the information to the correct places in my family tree and go from there i'm sure that i will find heaps more stuff that i want to know.
Thanks Rachel
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I have been researching the TWEED family for 8 years, inheriting research gathered over 25 years by others.
I have not quite caught up with some of the info on here but have details added to my Tweed Tree re the Crouch = Pyke = Tweed family. I have worked from research provided by a professional researcher ( I did not pay ) and a hand drawn Pedigree by ' Whitehead ' the Suffolk Geneologist from the SOG.
I have added my bits along the way including a couple of Crouch / Tweed Wills.
Yes the Pyke name was handed down as a condition of inheritance.
I am happy to exchange info via em
Clif.jade[at]ntlworld.com
It has just taken me 20 minutes to find this Board via Google and 2 open web browsers..following links from Google to here..then 8 pages to get here...must be an easier way !.
- Clif ( London )
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Hi Clif,
Good to hear from another Pyke/Crouch etc family researcher.
I have sent you an email
Regards
Di
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I have questions over Elizabeth Goldegay which I have to sort out and have discovered another name ', in my Tree as ' Massinghead'. in the Pedigrees as Massingbird and it appears in reality Massingberd - which was a Surname adopted by the father, needs work. A couple of second Marriages have appeared from records held by Cambridge RO and I thought I would have a quite day !.
- Clif
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Hi Clif welcome,
I unfortunatley don't have any other info then what you can see that Lady Di dug up for me, but would love anything you have that you can pass on.
Cheers Rachel
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I have found these bits this evening on the Cambridge RO website which I am sure you know about but theres new info which I did not know. There more on there .
In my Tree I had Thomas Tweed Married Ann Massinghead ( as did others over 330 odd years ) ...now it seems it was Massenberd and even that was a name adopted by her father,,..I am just about to exchange messages with someone in that line ..the family are from Lincolnshire.
send em as I have documents to send.
- Clif
801/T/19
Copy of release and settlement of John Pyke, esq. after his marriage with Ann Massingberd, dated 3 September 1776. Manors of Sheen and Streets with appurtenances etc. in Meldreth and Melbourn; also the Priesthouses in Littleport 21 May 1795
801/T/15
Manor of Sheen, Meldreth: Copies from registers of various parishes in Essex and Suffolk, recording the burial of John Pyke in 1738, burial of Sarah Pyke in 1752, baptism of John Tweed in 1755 and marriage of John Pyke and Ann Massingberd in 1774. 29 May - 5 June 1810
801/T/16
Copy of bargain and sale, dated 1 June 1776. Manors of Sheen and Streets in Meldreth and Melbourn; Manor of Baythorn Hall in Strumer and Birdbrook, Essex; the Priesthouses in Littleport; property in Stradishall, Suffolk; The Swan in Baythorn End, Birdbrook, Essex; annuity of £20 from Manors in Dersingham, Norfolk; etc. John Pyke esq. to David Humphreys, gent. of Grays Inn, Middlesex, to lead the uses of recoveries, (see 801/T017) n.d. <1810>
1810
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Copy of release and settlement of John Pyke, esq. after his marriage with Ann Massingberd, dated 3 September 1776. Manors of Sheen and Streets with appurtenances etc. in Meldreth and Melbourn; also the Priesthouses in Littleport 21 May 1795
801/T/22
Lease of Sheen Farm estate, for term of 12 years. Rev. William Gordon and Ann his wife, of Coltishall, Norfolk, to Joshua Fitch. Rent: £191.3.0 p.a. 20 September 1800
801/T/23
Manor of Sheen, Meldreth: Copy of appointment, dated 5 March 1803, by Mrs. Ann Gordon (formerly Pyke, nee Massingberd) to use of Emily Carthew, wife of Morden Carthew, of one third part of Manors of Sheen and Streets with appurtenances etc. in Meldreth and Melbourn; also the Priesthouses in Littleport 19 January 1810
801/T/26
Final concord between James Burleigh, plaintiff and George Pyke, William and Mary Ann Hutton, Morden Carthew and Emily Tweed, William and Caroline Burleigh, deforciants; Manors of Sheen and Streets with appurtenances Trinity Term 1810
1810
801/T/35
Lease and release of Manor of Sheen and Streets with their appurtenances, and Sheen Farm, in Meldreth and Melbourn; Rev. Edward Blackenbury of Skendleby, Lincs.; Rev. George Hutton of Sutterton, Lincs.; William Hutton of Gate Burton, Lincs. and Mary Ann his wife; William Burleigh of Baythorn Hall, Essex and Caroline his wife; Rev. Morden Carthew of Mattishall, Norfolk and Emily his wife; to Joshua Fitch of Meldreth; with appointment and settlement of estates in Fen Ditton to William Burleigh, in lieu of estate sold to Joshua Fitch. 4/5 February 1811
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Is anyone researching the Pykes in Ireland. I am sure there is a connection to the Pyke family from the Short family as I have found a Robert Pyke mentioned several times in a deed in the Register of deeds. On refers to a Robert Pyke of Park Tipperary, the other makes mention of a connection to Gurtnapissy in Curaheen, Upper Ormond. Any help would be greatly appreciated. These deeds are between 1710 and 1750. Thanks Sue Australia.
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I have recently received a Pyke Pedigree Chart from a contact in Australia, researched by a Pyke descendent. I have spent the last 3 weeks trying to verify the information contained, using the web, web trees, a specialist search engine and trawling the Trove AustralianNewspaper Archive.
Yesterday I found that the Tasmanian Archive have free to view and download Wills, I found 21 connected to the Pyke Tree.
At this time I have exhausted my resources and have put the results on my Tree 'The Last Knight' on Rootsweb World Connect Project.
Remember that Tweed changed their name to Pyke to inherit the Birdbrook Estate in Essex. I also draw your attention to the Layston Church website which has information linking the Tweed / Pyke and Crouch familys.
The Tweed line I have back to about 1498.
This is my 14th year and STILL keep finding them !
- Clif