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Title: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley-
Post by: springtime 60 on Saturday 29 December 07 15:26 GMT (UK)
desperately searching any flatleys from knock .i am searching john flatley born 1836, hoping to find names of his parents and maybe any other siblings.
                     ann

Last edited 21/7/09
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: leprechaun on Saturday 29 December 07 16:07 GMT (UK)
 Ann is this the same John Flatley you were searching for Yesterday. Ie Mayo
                You did not know where in Mayo he was born.
 So do you now know he was born in Knock.? :-\
         
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: springtime 60 on Saturday 29 December 07 16:36 GMT (UK)
ive been speaking to a tom flatley who maybe connected to the same flatleys he lives in knock and he told me the flatleys are 8 mile radius around knock
i have info of a john flatley born 1836
baptism 21st june 1836
Parents john
catherine ?murray
beckan r/c parish
i am hoping this may be the john i'm looking for
i wish i knew its the one
hoping someone
will read my many posts and get in touch
heres hoping
i am a nuisance but i need to find my origins
             ann
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: dee melody on Saturday 29 December 07 18:01 GMT (UK)
KP, The Knock records don't start until 1868.  There may be the odd one or two from earlier years, but County Mayo has the least records of all the Counties.  You could try ordering up film through LDS - if it's available and search them all.  Believe me, I've been there, visited the area twice and I still cannot locate the family.
Good luck
Dee
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: springtime 60 on Saturday 29 December 07 18:07 GMT (UK)
thanks.
i don't give up easily i will try all means
one day maybe i will stumble over a find
                   ann
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: dee melody on Saturday 29 December 07 18:20 GMT (UK)
Ann, I am not trying to be negative.  I know just how hard it is.  There are days when I am climbing walls, but some records were not kept.  Have a look at this website and see if you can 'glean' anything from it.

www.from-ireland.net/mayo/mayorcindex.htm -   Click on Bekan and have a look.

On this particular website, type in Flatley and see if there is anything to help you:      www.rootsweb.com/~irlmayo/records.htm

good luck
Dee


Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: springtime 60 on Saturday 29 December 07 19:10 GMT (UK)
thank you for your help with the webbs, i have added them to my favourites,i have had a look, many flatleys listed i did see a marriage for john flatley to catherine regan 1853
i will continue to scan them later
                                          ann
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: dee melody on Saturday 29 December 07 19:31 GMT (UK)
Ann, here are the LDS references for ordering film to view re Bekan.  I hope there is an LDS Centre near you.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Marriages 1832-1843 -  FHL BRITISH Film [ 1279209 Item 13 ]
Baptisms 1832-1843 -  FHL BRITISH Film [ 1279209 Item 14 ]
Marriages 1844-1866 Baptisms 1844-1860 -  FHL BRITISH Film [ 1279209 Item 15 ]
Baptisms 1865-1904 Marriages 1899-1910 -  FHL BRITISH Film [ 1279209 Item 16 ]
Baptisms 1871-1903 Marriages 1871-1897 -  FHL BRITISH Film [ 1279209 Item 17 ]
Baptisms 1851-1870 -  FHL BRITISH Film [ 1279209 Item 18 ]

Also, have you contacted the Catholic Church in Ballyhaunis?  They are closest to Bekan and may hold records.

Dee


Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: springtime 60 on Saturday 29 December 07 20:16 GMT (UK)
thankyou dee
i expect lds will be held at the county library i will ask.
when i went to dublin in july i obtained an address for beckan rc parish and wrote to them ,no response.
i will write to the ballyhaunis parish.
i find the people on this rootschat very willing and helpful with their knowledge and passing it on to folk like me.
                    ann
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: nanapop on Friday 04 January 08 22:10 GMT (UK)
Ann,

Do not have any info on John Flatley but your messages interested me only because I have found Flatley ancestors from Knock.  Namely Thomas Flatley who married Julia Charles.  One child Patrick Flatley immigrated to Boston Massachusetts mid 1880's.

I hope you find your John and I will be watching your messages for familiar names of my own.

Margie

Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: springtime 60 on Saturday 05 January 08 16:26 GMT (UK)
the only info i have is that he was born 1836 not entirely sure its knock i have found a record of a baptism in bekan parish for a john flatley so i am hoping this could be him.but its the only really piece i have found i am hoping to trace him and his parents one day and maybe any brothers and sister i'm sure he has a sister mary
                            ann
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: springtime 60 on Friday 18 April 08 20:17 BST (UK)
hello its been a while since i looked at any posts.
well all the info i have gathered to do with my flatleys ie baptism records or cert
it seems that my greatgrandfather used two names john on census and one census was patrick
on my grandfathers birth cert it father john
the marriage cert i have is for patrick to margaret boyle and most of the childrens baptism records say the son or daughter of patrick flatley and margaret boyle
it has been very difficult for me to follow and find what name he was given at birth he was born county mayo in 1836 possible ballyhaunis not 100% sure
i would love to be able to find his origin
would anyone know the address of ballyhunis catholic church i googled but didnt find one
thanks
                       ann
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: leprechaun on Friday 18 April 08 21:59 BST (UK)
 Hi There. The name of the Catholic Church is. [Ballyhaunis]
     St Patrick's Roman Catholic Church.
         Ballyhaunis,
         Co, Mayo, Ireland.
Rev: Canon Joe Cooney. There are several Church's in the area,this is the largest. Lep
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: dee melody on Saturday 19 April 08 06:37 BST (UK)
Ann, you could try this site, but be warned, it's pay to view and you will soon get through the credits!!!  Unfortunately, it will only say Mayo and not the individual areas, but there are plenty of Flatley's and Boyles listed.

http://mayo.brsgenealogy.com/search.php?SID=102b1ebebc5dbe31998c34b4c1f7dff2

Dee
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: springtime 60 on Saturday 19 April 08 13:07 BST (UK)
thank you i have typed a letter to st patricks catholic church.
i have used that web site,and wasted credits to easily,
hopefully iwill get results following my letter to ballyhaunis
thankyou to dee and leprechaun
one day i will find my greatgrandfathers origin then i can go to ireland which is my dream
                             ann
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: leprechaun on Saturday 19 April 08 14:27 BST (UK)
 Good Luck. :) Lep
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: nanapop on Sunday 20 April 08 20:00 BST (UK)
Ann,

Do you know the names of the children between John or Patrick Flatley and Margaret Boyle?

Margie
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: springtime 60 on Sunday 20 April 08 20:43 BST (UK)
yes i do i have all of their baptism records
                                                         
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: nanapop on Sunday 20 April 08 22:28 BST (UK)
Ann,

Do you have a public tree going on Ancestry.com?  If you do, then I just found your tree.  If you don't then there is a tree being built which includes John Flatley & Margaret Boyle.  Their children were Bridget, William, John, Mary & Patrick.

Margie
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: jennypryer on Monday 14 July 08 20:05 BST (UK)
Long shot but kpnuts do you have the email address of Tom Flatley you have been speaking?? If I am right which is a bit of a long shot he could be one of my cousins (one removed i think it would be)!! Basically him and my dad would be 1st cousins!?   

Thanks

Jenny
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: springtime 60 on Monday 14 July 08 20:39 BST (UK)
leprechaun
i dont have a lot of luck with replies from ireland i wrote to st patricks church back in april i was hoping for more

leads  from the church records for my research
just  following up since my last post from you
                              ann
Title: Re: knock/flatley
Post by: jmannus on Saturday 21 February 09 18:48 GMT (UK)
Ann,
Just thought I'd throw in that I also have Flatley's from Knock area in my tree. Mostly connected to my Kearns family from that area.

Some from Drum and Cullentragh, others from Falmore, Parish Bekan. One or two from Wingfield and Leachta. Some O'Connell, Egan and Morley interspersed through the Flatley tree.

Drop me a note at (*) if you'd like to trade notes.

Regards,
Joe

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Title: Re: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley
Post by: springtime 60 on Thursday 13 August 09 16:35 BST (UK)
im still hoping for any flatleys to make contact
               ann
Title: Re: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley-
Post by: pegflat on Sunday 13 June 10 19:50 BST (UK)
ann,  My late husband's great grandfather was John Flatley born LeCarrow knock in 1836  He married Margaret Morley (born 1831 Wingfield Drum).  John died in Knock 1892-95.  Margaret in 1908.  John's father was William (died 1891-1900), mother named McGloughlin.  Margaret Morley's father was Austin Morley, mother Mary Kearns.
John and Margaret had several children including  a daughter Mary Agnes who  lived in New Hampshire and a son Dominick who was my husband's grandfather. Dominick Flatley married Nora Flatley (same name no relation) in 1905. Nora's father was William (1831-1898-1900) and her mother was Bridget O'connell (1831-1898) both from Ballyhaunis.  Dominick was a stone mason and became quite prominent in our little town of Manchester, MA.  I have more and pix. Email me at (*).

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Title: Re: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley-
Post by: jmannus on Monday 14 June 10 00:49 BST (UK)
Peg,
The MORLEY/FLATLEY family also connects to mine through the Margaret MORLEY you mention below, back thorugh Austin MORLEY / Mary KEARNS and Mary KEARNS' parents Thomas KEARNS and Mary FORDE. Thomas and Mary were my 3x great grandparents.

Regards,
Joe


ann,  My late husband's great grandfather was John Flatley born LeCarrow knock in 1836  He married Margaret Morley (born 1831 Wingfield Drum).  John died in Knock 1892-95.  Margaret in 1908.  John's father was William (died 1891-1900), mother named McGloughlin.  Margaret Morley's father was Austin Morley, mother Mary Kearns.
John and Margaret had several children including  a daughter Mary Agnes who  lived in New Hampshire and a son Dominick who was my husband's grandfather. Dominick Flatley married Nora Flatley (same name no relation) in 1905. Nora's father was William (1831-1898-1900) and her mother was Bridget O'connell (1831-1898) both from Ballyhaunis.  Dominick was a stone mason and became quite prominent in our little town of Manchester, MA.  I have more and pix. Email me at (*).

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Title: Re: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley-
Post by: pegflat on Friday 18 June 10 02:34 BST (UK)
My John Flatley had siblings: William,Patrick, Dominick,Bridget,Michael.  I never heard tht they lived in England.
Title: Re: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley-
Post by: DympJoyce on Saturday 19 June 10 20:57 BST (UK)
I have some photographs of Flatley Headstones in Knock Cemetery if anyone wants to PM me
Title: Re: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley-
Post by: Cooty on Monday 03 December 12 10:34 GMT (UK)
I have a John Flattley born around 1804 in Knock.  He had seven sons, the youngest of which is my g-g-grandfather James, born 1846 in Knock.  I have absolutely no idea who the other six brothers are - no names, nothing.

John and James turn up living together in Tottenham, Middlesex, England in the 1871 census.  The following year they both emigrated to Australia together.  Then John just disappears.

I have photos of them both, along with a photo of John's wife, Mary Harrison (d. 1870, buried at Kensal Green Cemetery, England).

I would love to know what happened to the other six brothers.
Title: Re: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley-
Post by: Cooty on Saturday 30 March 13 22:41 GMT (UK)
Okay I found John's death certificate - he died in Richmond, Victoria, Australia in 1890 (86 yrs old, confirming born 1804). Usefully, his death certificate lists his parents' names - his father is another John Flatley and his mother is a Mary Rutledge. Given the first borns are usually given a parent's name, I'm wagering this John and Mary were born somewhere around 1780.  Any leads?  Hoping this might be in someone's tree somewhere, I've drawn a blank.
Title: Re: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley-
Post by: Lisacul Rosie on Saturday 30 March 13 23:07 GMT (UK)
Hi.

You might find eastmayo.org of some help.Not all of the pages are accessible unfortunately.
Title: Re: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley-
Post by: Cooty on Saturday 30 March 13 23:34 GMT (UK)
Thanks Padraig I'll give that a shot.
Title: Re: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley-
Post by: Lisacul Rosie on Sunday 31 March 13 00:02 GMT (UK)

Hi, I've had a quick look and a bit disappointing.

Flatley's were numerous in and around Kilmovee, even the family of the Flatley with the dancing feet, which is within walking distance to Ballyhaunis. Irishgraveyards.ie has a number of Flatley's buried in Ballyhaunis with the Townland they lived in marked on the headstones. It's going to be tricky but worth looking into.

You might find a combination with Rutledge and Flatley as sponsors on eastmato.org which might point you in the right direction.
Title: Re: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley-
Post by: margym317 on Tuesday 14 May 13 00:31 BST (UK)
My grandfather was born at Ballyhaunis baptized at the Bekan church.  His birthdate was Feb. 4, 1874 and one of his sponsor was Kate Flately.  My grandfather was Thomas Paul Hoban and his parents were Thomas Hoban and Ellen Sloyan.  His grandparents were Patrick Hoban and Bridget Bones.  The baptism record was found on LDS Film #1279209.  My grandfathers home still stands today at Lisbane but the roof is in very bad shape.  21 Flateley's show up on Griffiths at Bekan. 
Title: Re: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley-
Post by: springtime 60 on Tuesday 14 May 13 17:52 BST (UK)
hi everyone.
im no nearer at finding my next generation of flatleys.
not found my g grandfathers parents,
i do have a baptism record for a john flatley from bekan parish 1836,not sure if he is my greatgrandfather.
it was interesting to read that the dancing micheal flatley is from the same area.
 ihave a photo of my father with the same features as micheal flatley square forehead an those dipples in both cheeks,ive often wondered if the are from same line of flatleys.
             ann
Title: Re: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley-
Post by: margym317 on Tuesday 14 May 13 18:17 BST (UK)
What is estimato.org?  Is that a genealogy site for Ireland? 
Title: Re: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley-
Post by: Clare Stafford on Monday 17 April 17 04:23 BST (UK)
I'm doing some research on my McNeive and Charles ancestors from Mayo/Roscommon/Cavan. My maternal great-great-grandmother, Bridget Charles, was Julia Charles Flatley's older sister.
Title: Re: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley-
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 17 April 17 20:51 BST (UK)
Does everyone know about a forum called Ireland xo Reaching Out. www.irelandxo.com/ireland
It's organised by parish and county.
Title: Re: ballyhaunis/knock/flatley-
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 17 April 17 22:06 BST (UK)
Does everyone know about a forum called Ireland xo Reaching Out. www.irelandxo.com/ireland
It's organised by parish and county.

... and not very well organised either  :-\

Errigal Parish (Co. Londonderry) "Another name for this parish is called Arrigle which is in the townland of Coleraine. It has a capacity of 5401 people. A monastery that was built there was founded in 589 AD by a leader called St. Columb, it remained that way for at least 400 years until a force from Denmark conquered it into ruins."
About 12 or so miles from the town (not townland) of Coleraine and I'm not sure if 'Arrigle' was used locally...

Other parishes have equally strange details  ::)