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Looking for any information on the old Denny picture (bingo)hall. Story goes it was built by my g/grandfather David Anderson of Dryman (Denny area)
Anderson
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hi there, i have found a book which may be of some help. - i'm not sure how much help (if any) ::) - but here is the description anyway...
"Old Denny, Dunipace and Bonnybridge: Tony Martin (June 2000). Contains 56 pictures covering locations including Denny Cross and station, Stripeside, Dennyloanhead, Carrongrove paper mill, Herbertshire Castle and the canal bridge at Bonnybridge. The brickworks at Denny and the foundry at Bonnybridge are included too." (taken from www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk).
isbn 1840331178
Old Denny, Dunipace and Bonnybridge by Tony Martin
published by Stenlake Publishing 12 June 2000.
might be worth looking at.
regards,
Lorna.
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one more thing...
i just found this:
http://www.chem.gla.ac.uk/~gbarr/cinemas/scotland/denny.html
and wondered if it was a photograph of the picture house you are looking for info about. - it says below the older of the 2 photos that the original was opened in 1913 and demolished in 1960s.
regards,
Lorna.
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hi Lorna
Thanks for you kind help. We live in Australia so finding that book may be a mission but will try.
The newer picture house wouldn't be it as David Anderson died 1924 but the older one may be it. Must be in a different place to each other due to the time of building and demolition.
I have just found David Anderson (my g/grandfather) obituary that I had stowed away.
It reads:
Falkirk Herald Saturday, 18 Oct. 1924 Pge 9 Col.1
The late David Anderson
The death took place somewhat suddenly on Tues.of Mr David Anderson, retired merchant, Glasgow Rd.Denny, at the age of 77 yrs. Deceased was in his eary days employed by Messrs. Edgar & Strang, merchants, Stirling St. and latterly started business for himself. Mr Anderson built the public hall, and for a time showed considerable versatility in business affairs. In his hall connection he came into constant touch with entertainment caterers of the old concert days, and he was held in high esteem amongst them. Mrs Anderson and a grown up family survive, and they have the sympathy of the public in their bereavement.
So Lorna I don't know if the picture theatre & the pudlic hall are the same building.
I had a look on the interenet to see if there was any history information on Edgar & Strange merchant's in Denny but with no success.
Thanks once again, hope you have a great year.
Anderson
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if it is of any interest, there is a statistical account of Denny drawn up in 1839 at:
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/tom.paterson/places/sadenny.htm
i looked briefly at it but never saw the names you mention, but it was probably too early. - i saw one Anderson though: Edward Anderson, 23d September 1747 ; died April 1749 he was one of the ministers of the parish of Denny.
the page also has an old map of the parish of Denny.
and this (below) is a link to 1881 census for Denny.
http://www.tompaterson.ukfamily.com/census/Denny/Denny1881_sPage9.html
it is searchable by surname, then forename.
another thought would be to contact Falkirk Council Archives.
Contact Details
History Research Centre
Callendar House
Callendar Park
Falkirk
FK1 1YR
Scotland
Tel: 01324 503779
Fax: 01324 503711
Email: callendar.house[at]falkirk.gov.uk (Replace [at] with @)
Website: http://www.falkirkmuseums.org
Archivist : Ms Elspeth Reid
Access information
Open : Mon-Fri 10-12.30, 1.30-5
some of the records they hold......
Denny and Dunipace Agricultural Association (1)
Denny, Stirlingshire
Denny and Dunipace and District Canine Club (1)
Denny, Stirlingshire
Denny and Dunipace Burgh (2)
Denny, Stirlingshire
Denny and Leslie Park Curling Club (1)
Denny, Stirlingshire
Denny Curling Club (1)
Denny, Stirlingshire
Denny Parochial Board/ Parish Council (1)
Denny, Stirlingshire
Denny People's Club (1)
Denny, Stirlingshire
i hope this is of some help to you.
regards, Lorna.
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I checked the link in a previous post
http://www.chem.gla.ac.uk/~gbarr/cinemas/scotland/denny.html
The colour picture is The Cinema Deluxe. It is located about 100 metres south of Denny Cross. Denny Parish Church stands at Denny Cross and can be seen at the right of the photo.
Denny sits on the Stirling to Glasgow Road -- north of the cross is Stirling Street -- south of the cross is Glasgow Road.
I consulted my father -- he was born around 1925.
On the site now occupied by the Cinema Deluxe, There used to be a Town Hall. My father refers to it as Town Hall rather than Public Hall. This was used for various entertainment acts and probably had a flat floor (unlike cinemas) . Underneath the Town Hall were stables.
Around 1936, the Town Hall was burned to the ground. The deluxe cinema was then built on the site.
It must have been around 1970 when the cinema closed and reopened as a Bingo Hall. It was still standing the last time I passed (about a year ago)
The Black and white photo is of an old cinema in Stirling Street -- about 250 metres north of Denny Cross. I can't remember the name of it though "The Picture House" is probably correct -- we just called it "The Flee Pit". It was operational in the early 1960's but is now demolished. All the shops on the west side of Stirling Street were demolished in a major revamp about the mid 1960's -- it may have been around then that The Picture House was demolished -- not certain exactly when.
To the right of the Picture house you can just make out a small structure -- this was a small wooden weatherboard building (about the size of a garage) and was a shop owned by a huge lady who had to sit down most of the time -- she used a long stick with a grab that reached almost all the shelves.
About 70 metres to the right (east) of the Picture House is the local Catholic Church (the Chapel) and it is still operational.
Behind the Picture House used to be the local football pitch for Dunipace Juniors -- this is now a housing estate.
Drymen is just east of Loch Lomond and about 25 miles (as the crow flys) from Denny -- given the roads and transport of the time, that's a fair distance.
Callendar House in Falkirk is about 6 miles from Denny. This used to be a large wealthy family estate but is now run by the council as a tourist attraction. The library there is of special interest. As local people die, they often donate photos and information to the library -- the material is always increasing and is possibly now one of the best sources for local historic information.
Email: callendar.house@falkirk.gov.uk
David Anderson is probably buried at Denny Cemetery -- about a mile outside Denny on the Denny to Falkirk Road -- operated by Falkirk District Council. This Cemetery has no new plots. Over the last ten or twenty years, new plots have been created at the nearby new cemetery, "Hills of Dunipace". So there are effectively two cemeteries for Denny and Dunipace.
My father does not recall any "Edgar & Strang, merchants, Stirling St" -- must have been before his time.
I hope I did not bore you.
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This link might be useful to You
http://www.falkirkmuseums.demon.co.uk/museums/call-ho.htm
The staff at the library are pretty helpful -- i did some research there -- I have never contacted them by email though -- I lived next door to it at the time.
If they had a photo of the Town Hall, they could probably send you a copy by email.
Good hunting.
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I was going to send you a photo of Denny Cross in the early 1900's
But I could not find a way to do it.
I just became a member today.
I was gonna make a Roots Website but they want a lotta personal information.
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I followed the link by Mclellan and found this almost perfect match
http://www.tompaterson.ukfamily.com/census/Denny/Denny1881Page40.html
David Anderson is the correct age and running a business in Stirling Street.
Stirling Street is where the shops were/are -- Glasgow Road was pretty much residential.
He is shown as Born in Denny though -- not Drymen (could be an error)
Looks like his wife died at or just after childbirth -- he was a widower with an 11 month old child.
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OOPs -- just read the obituary again -- "Mrs Anderson and a grown up family survive"
Disagreement with the Cencus there -- it showed him as a widower with a very young family and a very old house maid (and a new young house maid).
If it was the same David Anderson,
this would only be possible if David Anderson married again -- if he could afford to build a Town Hall, he was probably quite a catch.
You have probably gathered that I get distracted easily -- better get back to my own work.
Regards,
Nigel
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Hello Nigel,
Just joined this site. I may have found your Gt. Grandfathers grave in Denny Cemetery. The inscription on the stone has a David Anderson who did 1th October 1924 aged 78 years - is this him? There are also a lot of other names on the stone. I'm in the process of photographing and transcribing this cemetery so if there's any others you're looking for, just let me know.
Anne
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one more thing...
i just found this:
http://www.chem.gla.ac.uk/~gbarr/cinemas/scotland/denny.html
and wondered if it was a photograph of the picture house you are looking for info about. - it says below the older of the 2 photos that the original was opened in 1913 and demolished in 1960s.
regards,
Lorna.
if it is of any interest, there is a statistical account of Denny drawn up in 1839 at:
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/tom.paterson/places/sadenny.htm
i looked briefly at it but never saw the names you mention, but it was probably too early. - i saw one Anderson though: Edward Anderson, 23d September 1747 ; died April 1749 he was one of the ministers of the parish of Denny.
the page also has an old map of the parish of Denny.
and this (below) is a link to 1881 census for Denny.
http://www.tompaterson.ukfamily.com/census/Denny/Denny1881_sPage9.html
it is searchable by surname, then forename.
another thought would be to contact Falkirk Council Archives.
Contact Details
History Research Centre
Callendar House
Callendar Park
Falkirk
FK1 1YR
Scotland
Tel: 01324 503779
Fax: 01324 503711
Email: callendar.house[at]falkirk.gov.uk (Replace [at] with @
Website: http://www.falkirkmuseums.org
Archivist : Ms Elspeth Reid
Access information
Open : Mon-Fri 10-12.30, 1.30-5
some of the records they hold......
Denny and Dunipace Agricultural Association (1)
Denny, Stirlingshire
Denny and Dunipace and District Canine Club (1)
Denny, Stirlingshire
Denny and Dunipace Burgh (2)
Denny, Stirlingshire
Denny and Leslie Park Curling Club (1)
Denny, Stirlingshire
Denny Curling Club (1)
Denny, Stirlingshire
Denny Parochial Board/ Parish Council (1)
Denny, Stirlingshire
Denny People's Club (1)
Denny, Stirlingshire
i hope this is of some help to you.
regards, Lorna.
:)Hi, I just became a member and was reviewing some posts and saw yours. I have a MAJOR "brick wall" with my 5th Great Grandfather, Alexander Denny Callender. He was born abt. 1755 in ?. His parents were ? Having the middle name of Denny, I wondered if his ancestors came from there. Alexander was a pioneer to the Mississippi Territory around 1780. I am trying to back-track to try and find where his people came from in Scotland. Any assiatance or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Claude Callender :)
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Hi Claude,
Denny Callender -- thats quite a coincidence of names.
As far as i know there is only one Denny in Scotland
There is a Callendar Estate in Falkirk (mentioned in previous post.)
There is a town called Callander about 8 miles north west of Stirling.
There are Callender s in the phone book.
You could try the BT directory
http://www2.bt.com/edq_resnamesearch?namespace=coexistence
Punch in a surname and a place like Falkirk , Stirling, Glasgow etc
Funny enough the results are not allways from the area you specify.
If you play about with names and places, you may find an area with a high occurance of the surname.
Not much help but something to do on a rainy day :)
Nigel
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Hi Anderson,
I came across a photo of Denny Town/Public Hall at Falkirk Library. I have photocopied it (the copy is pretty much as good as the original) and scanned it into the computer. If you like I will sent you a copy.
Denny and Dunipace views from the past by Margaret Ferguson
ISBN 0-906586-47-X
DENNY TOWN HALL
Not many people know that the first public demonstration of television in
Scotland took place in Denny Town Hall in February, 1934, thus putting
Denny 'right on the map and first in the field", according to Mr P.
Samwell of the Radio Gramophone Depot. Entertainments of various kinds
were provided in the hall, which was destroyed by fire in May 1937. The
Cinema de Luxe was later built on the site.
Regards,
Nigel
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Hi
I'm trying to find birth details for my great grandfather Joseph Hunter who died in a pit accident in 1917 and is buried in Denny Cemetry. He was born in Ireland but I haven't been able to find out his birthdate and was hoping it might be on his headstone. If anyone has details or is able to get this information I would be very grateful!
Laura
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Somehwere in the foregoing was mention of living in Australia and perhaps having difficulty finding the book mentioned:
It can be purchsed on the Internet, e.g.:
http://www.stenlake.co.uk/books/155.htm
http://www.alibris.com/books/isbns/20705
amazon.co.uk (long link) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/new-for-you/new-releases/-/books/279970/3/ref%3Dpd%5Fnr%5Fb%5Fnav/202-6184839-1856636)
£6.99.
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Hi Laura,
Guess what I found . . . . . ?
I think this might be what you're looking for!
"(Front of Stone)
Erected by Mary Simpson in memory of her beloved husband JOSEPH HUNTER
Who was accidentally killed at Woodyet Colliery 19th April 1917 aged 60 years
Also their grand son JOSEPH HUNTER died 18th January 1918 in his 5th year
Also the above MARY SIMPSON died 27th December 1930 aged 74 years
(Right Side of Stone)
In loving memory of ROBERT HUNTER died 17th February 1971 aged 85 years
Beloved husband of AGNES LOWRIE died 15th January 1976 aged 88 years."
I'm working my way round Denny Cemetery attempting to photograph all the stones and list the complete MI's for all of them.
I have photographs of this stone and can send you copies - send me a personal message with your e-mail address if you want them.
Anne
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Hello Nigel,
Just joined this site. I may have found your Gt. Grandfathers grave in Denny Cemetery. The inscription on the stone has a David Anderson who did 1th October 1924 aged 78 years - is this him? There are also a lot of other names on the stone. I'm in the process of photographing and transcribing this cemetery so if there's any others you're looking for, just let me know.
Anne
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Hi Ann, I think the David Andersons grave stone you have photographed may be one of my relatives.My David Anderson was one of 11 children and at one point had a grocers shop with his brother James Anderson [Anderson public park Bonnybridge]He was married to Catherine Graham who died shortly after giving birth to their son Charles.Davids brother Alexander a baker is my Great grandfather their parents were William Anderson and Hellen Miller and they lived at East Borland. I have located James Andersons grave stone and also William and Hellens, and would be grateful if you come across any more Andersons in Denny thanks,Billy.
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Hi Billy,
Do you live locally then?
If so, you'll know that Denny Cemetery if quite large.
So far, I've found 182 Andersons all buried there and obviously that doesn't include the graves which are there, but have no stones.
Is there anyone in particular you're looking for? Let me know and I'll have a rake through what I've got.
Was this the stone you found?
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Hi Anne, thank you for your reply and photograph, The David is the brother of my G-Great grandfather Alexander another piece of the jigsaw in place thank you! thankyou! I do not have this photograph, the grave stones that i have found are William Anderson Lair B 311 and James Andersons of Myrtle Cottage Bonnybridge In 1902 When Willam and Helen celebrated their Diamond Wedding anniversary in was stated that the had 11 of a family all living, 80 grandchildren and 14 great grand children,so theres a lot more out there to find. The 11 children were John. b.1843.married to Marg. Fleming Helen. b1845 David. b. 1847 married to Catherine Graham William. b. 1849 James .b. 1852. married. Eliza Dunn and Elizabeth Todd Logan. Archibald. b.1855. Robert main Anderson b. 1856 Janet. b.1859. Alexander b.1861 married Maggie miller Forsyth Margaret.b 1864 married William MacDonald [12 children] Smith .b.1867 married Mary Anderson My branch of the Anderson Clan moved to Glasgow around 1886. I lived in Glasgow untill moving to Melbourne in 03. Thanks again for the help in finding more of the Clan would be greatful if you come across any more Andersons, do you relate to any of the above names? Billy.
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Hi Billy,
Give me a couple of days and I'll see if I can match up your names with any of the photos I've got. I don't have Lair Numbers for any of them though.
Could you PM me with your personal e-mail address as it would be much easier to send on info that way rather than post it on here.
Anne.
P.S. I'm not related to Stirlingshire Andersons, just a co-incidence that I share the same surname!
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Hi Anne, thanks for going to the trouble of sorting out the photos of the Denny Andersons there is no urgency just when and if you get a chance.I will be in Scotland for three weeks in July and it would be good to have a donder round Denny, tell me does the rabbits still out number the grave stones! you can e-mail me at (*) , thanks again Billy
(*) Moderator Comment: e-mail removed, to avoid spamming and other abuses. Please use the PM system for exchanging personal data.
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Hi Billy,
Yes, the rabbits probably still do out-number the stones! It's a real haven for wildlife although when the new Denny High School is built at the back (in Herbertshire Playing Fields), I kinda hope that its not a haven for a new kind of wild life!
I'll PM you with my e-mail - Go to the very top of the page and you'll see "Welcome back - you have XX messages" just click on it and you will access any Private Messages.
Anne.
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Hello Nigel, I think your G- grandfather David Anderson and my G- Grandfather Alexander Anderson were brothers There parents were William Anderson and Hellen Miller 11 children in total. David was in the grocery business with his brother James at one point then set up on his own. Davids wife was called Catherine Graham and died shortly after giving birth to there son Charles, do we have a connection, Billy Anderson
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Hi Billy,
Yes, the rabbits probably still do out-number the stones! It's a real haven for wildlife although when the new Denny High School is built at the back (in Herbertshire Playing Fields), I kinda hope that its not a haven for a new kind of wild life!
I've got a funny feeling the cemetery will be ruined when they open the new school.
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Hi Billy
Yes we are related but I'm not Nigel who you sent the message too. I'm Anderson and I have sent you all our connections but still waiting for yours.
Regards
Anderson
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Anderson
You are absolutely spot on we are related and thanks for the info will send you a PM,regards Billy.
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Thanks Billy
Will look forward to seeing where we are connected
Anderson
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Hi Anderson
Your Great grandfather David Anderson and my Great, great grandfather Alexander Anderson were brothers.
Does anybody know what that makes us?
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Hi Bill
according too PAF we are 3rd cousins 1 time removed. Their common ancestors are William ANDERSON (D) and Helen MILLER (D).
Never knew I was once removed.
Look forward to getting the rest of info your side.
Anderson
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Hi Anne,
If I understood correctly, I believe you are transcribing the Denny Cemetery. I am researching the descendants of John Eddie Kennedy & Jean Burns of Falkirk & Denny who emigrated to Canada abt 1852/3 and settled in Egremont Twp, Grey Co., Ontario. They had 12 children born in Scotland - and while most were born in Falkirk they seem to have been baptized at the Old Parish Church in Denny. Four of their childen died young and I am wondering if three of them might have been buried in the Denny Cemetery. They would be:
> William Kennedy (b. 25 Apr 1831 / d. 1835)
> Jean Kennedy (b. 10 Apr 1835 / d. Feb 1840)
> Elizabeth Kennedy (b. 24 Oct 1838 / d. 1849)
Any help at all would be appreciated.
Many thanks,
Lili Kennedy
Toronto
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Hi Lili,
Welcome to roots chat, your request has come up on the Denny Bingo Hall thread.
If you select new topic and type in your request again I am sure Anne will find it and reply, kind regards Billy.
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Billy,
Many thanks for your redirection. Have done as suggested.
Lili
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Hi I have found this link to a very good picture of
Denny public hall hope this is useful
http://www.falkirklocalhistorysociety.co.uk/gallery/index.php?txtMode=view&cid=9&pid=135
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Thankyou for finding the old photo. They are magic. If only I could find an old photo of my G/granfather David Anderson who built the old Denny Hall.
Many thanks again
Anderson
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Found this site and this topic when I googled Denny bingo hall. An update that may interest you is the sad demise of the Cinema/Bingo hall in a fire yesterday with it's demolition today. If you click on the link it should take you the regeneration of Denny site where you can see a few photographs.
Regards.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Regeneration-of-Denny-Town/250812739969
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Thank you Wee Jock for that information. I have joined facebook to see when the building burnt down. The building was built and owned by my great grandfather David Anderson who was a shop keeper in Denny.
Sad to see an ending as this. Wondering how I could get a small piece of brick or something as a memento. Bit hard being in Australia.
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My mother stays directly behind this building. I will be there today and will try and get you a brick and then we'll try and think of some way to get it to you.
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David Anderson built the house behind the hall and my mum, dad and myself were invited into the house by the people who owned it in 1997. Maybe it was your parents. I can't remember their names. Was the house damaged in the fire and more importantly. Is your family all OK.
Anderson
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Sorry it's taken so long to reply but I have aquired a brick from the demolished hall for you. Let me know if you would be interested in getting it sent out to you.
My mother stays in the council housing in Glebe street that over looks the bingo hall. The family you met I am guessing would have been Jim and Liz Hendry. Jim was the commercial manager of Falkirk Football club at about that time.
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Hi Wee Jock
My apologies to you for not getting back. We have been away. Thanks very much for getting part of my family history. We haven't been back to Scotland since 1997 and are talking about going back for a visit either later on this year or more than likely into next year. So if it is possible to put the brick in an outside corner somewhere, that would be great.
I can't remember the name of the lady who lived in the house behind the hall. I know I have a photo here somewhere that I can't find of my mum & dad with the lady in front of the house.
Have they demolished the hall yet and what do you think they will do on the land now?
Thanks again for all your effort.
Regards
Anderson
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Hi. The hall is completley demolished. It is now sadly, just a pile of rubble. I believe there is to be housing built on the site. I will keep the bricks here for you if you manage over (I have three).
There are so many happy memories for a lot of Denny people in that pile of rubble myself included. I don't know if you know this but the first ever broadcast of television in Scotland actually took place inside the hall when it was still the town hall (prior to the origional fire). I think it was late 1929 or very early 30's. Perhaps this has been mentioned already...I'm off to have a look at the other threads to see if it has.
Anyway...In case you require information or need to get in contact, I can be contacted at these e-mail adresses. Will PM them to you if you like.
Regards
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That would be great, I would like to keep in touch and hopefully get to know your proper name.
Anderson
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Looking for any information on the old Denny picture (bingo)hall. Story goes it was built by my g/grandfather David Anderson of Dryman (Denny area)
Anderson
Sorry to report this news, but the bingo hall (which was in use even last year) burned down in June 2010.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10224674
Blaze destroys former Denny cinema
A fire which destroyed a derelict historic building in Denny was started deliberately, police have said.
More than 30 firefighters attended the blaze at the art deco property, which once housed a cinema and later a bingo hall, in the town's Glasgow Road.
The fire, which prompted 36 calls from members of the public, was reported shortly before 0130 BST.
Central Scotland Police said the incident was being treated as suspicious following forensic investigations.
The main road to Stirling was closed at Denny Cross as a result of the fire.
Demolition
It took more than three hours to bring it under control.
Central Scotland Fire and Rescue Service said there were no injuries, but homes in the immediate area were evacuated.
Ch Insp Bob Beaton said police were keen to speak to anyone who was in the area at the time or had seen something suspicious.
He said: "Although currently unused, we believe that youths may have gained access to the property recently.
"The fire caused extensive damage to the building which may now have to be demolished and we are anxious to hear from anyone who may have information which could assist with our enquiry."
alex in denny
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I don't know if you know this but the first ever broadcast of television in Scotland actually took place inside the hall when it was still the town hall (prior to the origional fire). I think it was late 1929 or very early 30's.
That is interesting.
John Logie Baird (the inventor of television) had a shop in Falkirk, and he invented the 1926 Baird "Falkirk" television camera/transmitter.
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/John_Logie_Baird
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Looking for any information on the old Denny picture (bingo)hall. Story goes it was built by my g/grandfather David Anderson of Dryman (Denny area)
Anderson
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Looking for any information on the old Denny picture (bingo)hall. Story goes it was built by my g/grandfather David Anderson of Dryman (Denny area)
Anderson
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Joined back in August, made a quote and hasn't been back again - what did you do Billy?? ;D
Anne
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To the right of the Picture house you can just make out a small structure -- this was a small wooden weatherboard building (about the size of a garage) and was a shop owned by a huge lady who had to sit down most of the time -- she used a long stick with a grab that reached almost all the shelves.
About 70 metres to the right (east) of the Picture House is the local Catholic Church (the Chapel) and it is still
The large lady referred to was Maggie McFalls and she sat in the same position for years! The cinema was not only called the "Flea-Pit" it was known as "The Buggy" for obvious reasons.
The Deluxe Cinema is now demolished (as of summer 2010) and there is a You-tube video clip of its demise. Search You-Tube for "Denny Bingo demolition.......after fire. Numbers up!!"