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Title: O'DONOVAN of C19th Clonakilty
Post by: masgrace on Sunday 06 January 08 16:04 GMT (UK)
Looking to share info on this family.

regards,
Mark
Title: Re: O'DONOVAN of C19th Clonakilty
Post by: 22SIMON90 on Thursday 25 October 12 17:08 BST (UK)
are you still researching? We have Donovans in Wales coming from Clonakilty in 1911.  Patrick born 1853 in Clonakilty and father John Donovan around 1820s. J We know Patrick had Mary and Sylvester as siblings I am sure there were more! Patrick was married to Ellen Wren also of Conakilty in  1878
Title: Re: O'DONOVAN of C19th Clonakilty
Post by: masgrace on Friday 26 October 12 08:23 BST (UK)
Current progress is on http://creativegraces.net/genindex/odonovan.html
Always happy to.
Regards.
Title: Re: O'DONOVAN of C19th Clonakilty
Post by: masgrace on Monday 13 March 17 11:07 GMT (UK)
Update: The previous link still valid for details.
My wife's O'DONOVANs of Clonakilty are two families - one from the townland of Derrylahan (Dunmanway) and the other from nearby Shannonvale. The Shannonvale connection is probably connected to the O'DONOVANs of O'Donovan's Hotel in Clonakilty, whose ancestry I reviewed in late 2016 (thanks to the owners) who also have Shannonvale origins. Unfortunately, the link is at least a generation before the start of local church records.
The links to the Welsh family out of Clon has not been established to these families.

Mark
Title: Re: O'DONOVAN of C19th Clonakilty
Post by: Fenian1956 on Friday 30 March 18 23:36 BST (UK)
My great grandmother was Mary O`Donavan (c1825) from Clonakilty.  She was a descendant of Tadhg an Asna (O`Donaavon), who died at the Battle of Big Cross, during the United Irishman rising of 1798.
I am also interested in Donavons in Wales, as I reside there and Donavans come in to my family through marriage, in the Port Talbot area.

Regards.  Keith Cymru/ Wales
Title: Re: O'DONOVAN of C19th Clonakilty
Post by: KaeDee on Monday 09 April 18 04:19 BST (UK)
22Simon90....we have a link!
My family are via Sylvester, (and wife Nora Mary O'LEARY) through his daughter Maggie.
Your lineage is through a brother called Patrick (and wife Ellen Wren)


1901 Census
Residents of a house 15 in Coolowen (Whitechurch, Cork)
Show all information
Surname   Forename   Age   Sex   Relation to head     Religion
Donovan   Sylvester   55   Male   Head of Family     Roman Catholic
Donovan   Mary                   45    Female   Wife                     R Catholic
Donovan   Maggie                   20   Female   Daughter     R Catholic
Donovan   John                   19   Male   Son                     R Catholic
Donovan   Cornelius   18   Male   Son                     R Catholic
Donovan   Mary                   16   Female   Daughter     R Catholic
Donovan   Julia                   12   Female   Daughter     R Catholic
Donovan   Anne                     8   Female   Daughter     R Catholic
Donovan   Patrick                     6   Male   Son                     R Catholic
Donovan   James                     2   Male   Son                     R Catholic

From this census, three daughters and the son of Maggie, settled and are buried in Napier, New Zealand.  They are Mary (Molly), Julia (Sheila), Anne (Nance). Maggie died in July 1949, in Great Crosby, Liverpool, England. These three ladies (the old Aunts) lived together in their last years of life - attending church being their main occupations. I met them as old ladies.  Nance was the darling that all the small children adored.

There was family talk of one of more brothers also living in New Zealand or Australia.  Someone recalled one of them visiting Napier with his wife and children.
Can anyone add more?

Fenian1956... other family talk says that the family was linked to Michael Collins, via an Aunt.  Can you add anything to this idea? I have no idea how this connection would occur.
Kay Dee
Title: Re: O'DONOVAN of C19th Clonakilty
Post by: Fenian1956 on Wednesday 11 April 18 19:34 BST (UK)
Hi Kae.  Sorry, but I can't offer any ideas regarding the Big Fella.  My Collins line is on the other side of the family, although both families are from the same part of West Cork, Dumanway and Sweet Clonakilty.  I know Collins was born in Sams Cross, not too far from Bandon.  Thats about it really.  I believe his family line can be found online.
Hope this helps. Hwyl/slan Keith
Title: Re: O'DONOVAN of C19th Clonakilty
Post by: KaeDee on Wednesday 11 April 18 21:56 BST (UK)
Fenian1956... thanks for the information.  I'll go search for his family tree.  I am looking for an Aunt (Miss Donovan), who will be an in-law on his family tree.  I need the link to my family....or is this just a bit of Irish myth - someone saw the surname a claimed her as a relative?
But I guess that would be a dangerous claim to make back then...  am I correct in this thought?
KaeDee
Title: Re: O'DONOVAN of C19th Clonakilty
Post by: Fenian1956 on Friday 26 October 18 15:22 BST (UK)
Hi Kae.  Get any joy with that line?  Where in New Zealand are you?   Was there last year, with British & Irish Lions!  Beautiful
Title: Re: O'DONOVAN of C19th Clonakilty
Post by: KaeDee on Saturday 27 October 18 23:08 BST (UK)
Hi  Fenian1956,

Sadly Keith, I am not getting ahead. I had hoped that by talking on rootschat others would come forward and share information.
From two contacts, both suddenly know nothing.  One contacted me with shared DNA, (not my DNA, this surname belongs to my in-laws) but as soon as I mentioned the surname O'Donovan being the common link, I heard no more.
The other, did not know who their grandparents were and did not want to talk about it.
Grrr!
An in-law suggested I must have made it up, as their family was never involved with any plots, battles or uprising! Do I make another brick wall in the family tree?

And to your question - Yes, New Zealand is a Rugby nation - we even dress our babies as All Blacks!
I live in Napier.

Lets hope this response gets replies - there must be other researchers keen to put this family tree together. The Donovan's of Clonakilty, Cork certainly had large families!

KaeDee



Title: Re: O'DONOVAN of C19th Clonakilty
Post by: Fenian1956 on Monday 29 October 18 21:38 GMT (UK)
Kia ora KaeDee!  It can be frustrating!  I have a definite family connection to Tadgh Asia (O" Donavon).

He led the west Cork element of the 1798 Rebellion (United Irishmen).  Has been part of our family history and legend, for generations!  Have left you a link below.  My g grandmother, Mary O' Donavon, was a descendent of his.  The family were invited as guests to the unveiling of the statue in Clonakilty.

Haven't really explored that line yet.  Focussing on the Collins line from Bandon, very close to Clonakilty! Hoping for a link to Big Mick Collins, born near Bandon and a legend.
Loved Autearoa!  Nearest we were to you last year was, I believe Palmerston North!

Keep in touch and I will start O'Donavon line shortly!
Ka kite/hwyl fawr/ slan

https://www.failteromhat.com/southernstar/page17.php

Keith