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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: libby9 on Tuesday 29 January 08 00:34 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
Can anyone help me? I'm trying to locate the grave of my ggrandfather, he died in Huddersfield in June 1913, his name was Job Cock(s)/Cox. At the time of his death he was living in Lockwood, before that Linthwaite.
I would me most grateful for any help on this, last time I visited Huddersfield I searched Lockwood cemetery but couldn't find his grave there. His wife's name was Mary who died in Dec 1911.
Thanks for your time.
Libby
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Could be lockwood cem. I'll try records
dober
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Hi Dobfarm,
Thanks for your interest in my enquiry. I would be most grateful for a look up in the cemetery records.
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See what turns up! if hes in the a cemetery there will be records but if hes in a church yard then records are if'fy.
Do you know if his family had a family grave and that being his birth place. I've *(Parents grave) come across that! St Peter and Almondbury have records but Rashchiff was cleared years ago !no records I think. Theres a church between Lockwood and Crossland moor also Newsome. Just a question of searching the grave yards on them. It may take a while
Dob
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Hi Dob,
I feel certain he will have a headstone as his business was cab proprietor/funeral director. At the time of his death he lived at Albert Street Lockwood. I made a mistake on my original post sorry, his wife Mary diied in 1906, and Job Apr 1913. I'll keep my fingers crossed he's in a cemetery.
I'm also trying to locate his father's grave, his name Joshua, born c.1810, died 1886 in Linthwaite. Wife's name Susannah died 1889 also Linthwaite. I'd guess they were buried at Linthwaite Christ Church, do you know if graves there are still standing or have they been cleared?
Thanks so much for offering to help me.
Regards Libby
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Hi Libby
Linthwaite I know well as I was obeying the law of nature behind a bush earlier this year in that church yard photoing Beaumont's graves for a friend ! when a cricket ball flew over and in seconds surounded by cricketers. Fasted zip up in history.
Well back to your post ! the above answers your Linthwaite question if headstones still there.
Well leave it with me and I will post findings on records but maybe a while for church yards as its artic weather here at the moment!
Dob
me at the church yard :o
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Many thanks Dob. Pleased to hear graves are still standing at Linthwaite Christ Church ;D
Please do be careful when visiting........I wouldn't like you to get injured doing a search on my behalf :)
Pay a call first so you don't get caught short ;) ;D
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Not on Sunday afternoons but its fooball season now so ok. I can handle football hooligans but cricketers are a law to them selfs all polite and proper posh poopers like punching into fresh air. Rugby scrums are a bit behond graveyards but not very ....fresh...airy.
Dob
PS Linthwaite has semi moden cem late 1800's (1880+)to pres-day and were you graves Anglican or None conformist as cems have different section for each.
Albert St brings in Edgerton cem
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Hi Dob,
I cannot say with certainty, but I'd guess Joshua and Susannah were buried as non conformists. It's difficult to call, as some of their children were baptised at Salendine Nook baptists, others christened C of E. It could be Susannah was nonconformist (she was baptised) and Joshua C of E. Sorry if this uncertainty makes the search more difficult.
I hope the Colne Valley weather isn't too cold. I used to live in the Holme Valley and remember the freezing winters there. I too remember how pretty everywhere looked when covered in snow, but that was when there wasn't a lot of road traffic turning snow to dirty slush.
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found as p message
Job and Mary Cocks 'Grave Number 442 section A ' Location Lockwood Cemetery Huddersfield Yorkshire England
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Hi Dob
Do you have the burial records for Lockwood?
I've got a Robert TAYLOR buried there on 8 May 1831. Do you have the grave number or if there's anyone buried with him please?
Thank you and Merry Christmas
~ Claire
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Completed Jobs Dad Joshua Grave found with headstone in Linthwaite Church yard Also son George and wife.
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Thanks for all your help Dob ;D ;D
You're a star ;D ;D
Catch you later.
Libby :)
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I am trying to locate graveyards/cemeterys in Milnsbridge any ideas
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please give details
Hi Kaz, As you live in Hudds
Manchester road Milnsbidge church yard just past the Pub top of Whiteley St. or the old Noneconformist church yard Bottom of Whitleystreet opposite but hidden 4 horse shoes pub(Need too ask!)
Kirklees Cemeteries (In Phone book Kirklees council) and Hudds library has some church yard grave records also PARISH reg BURIELS.
Steve whitwam has a lotts of info enter Whitwham tree in search engine google or others
Find my past website and Family history on line have buriel records for a small fee about min sub 5 to 7 pound at pence a look up
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Many thanks yes live in Dalton so dont know Milnsbridge. Went to library but only had 15 mins so looked on Fiche found burial noted to be Milnsbridge parish but not exact .
I am looking for a Fred Firth died 28/06/1928 suicide buried july 3rd he lived at Whiteley street killed himself at Bridge croft dye works milnsbridge
will look on Steve Whitams sites as lots of relatives whiteheads came from marsden thanks for your help
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Hi, Thanks your reply!
First the grave yard opposite the 4 horse shoes pub!
Hard to find ( the chaple has been knocked down and grave yard may have been uprooted)
Coming down Whiteley street from Manchester road? go over the canal bridge! and the 4 Horse pub is on the left. --A road from the accute right joins Whiteley street (Ignore this)at this Junction there is another road going into a corner straight oppostite the pub at 10 oclock left from its front door!
Go right in to the corner on the Right side of this road and you will see a hidden path with railing on the left -Go down the path. graveyard on the left over the railngs! if still there..?
At the library!- Bottom parish fiche drawers -are none conformist fiche ( none orthadox) -look in the Milnsbidge for Graves info../ Marsden have graves so Milnsbridge may have.
If there are any Insciptions/epitaph/Dedications they are in the right corner!(Past counter) at the side of the Achive office door in the local studies library room! on lower bottom shelves (Short wall)
Also all family history books & Huddersfield Family History Society info are here as well.
The Hudds Family history society roots celler is at Meltham town 'T' junction centre! in a row of shops on the right as you see the church! coming from Hudds town road, they have film readers and fiche info, also have loads on their computor database !!So ask! first before looking in the fiche. They will let you use there stuff free if your not amember but donation is welcome.( Ie Heating cost) but their parish reg copies are only 25p as library is 55p. Thus look up in the library and go there for copies
Also West Yorkshire Archive Service Wakfield has all there is to know on Colne valley ancestry and free car parking but need token from them to leave. Its near the police station.
Also the YAS -side of Leeds uni- has free carparking and loads of bumph!
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Thanks your a mind of information and dedicated I find it all very time consuming when working so goes slowly. :D
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You are! if your relatives are local sat on a mine of info. If you want just tree info then as above, if you want more like ' Their lives,vocation, community, and history! Ie;- LUDITTES info ask the staff at the library
Land Tax
Overseers of the poor
Tides and maps in map draws
Electoral Poll
Hearth tax
land deeds
Known family history ie whitwam and other Shaws, Midgley, Mallinsons, Beaumont, Roebuc,Ramsdens,Littlewood,Tinkers,Horsfalls, Haigh,Taylors and many more as they inter-married localy
Wills index > York Trees
Use free BMD's and census look up website
There are many websites on the net
Read the LDS family search library and National archive Learn also 'Find my past' Learn ie parish records
last go to the Wakefield archives and talk to their achives staff? they are very helpfull!!!!!!****.
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It can be a life times work by you for your future descndents but effort times & hard work give or gets result long term and rewarding.
well keep asking on this website
surf the net
dob
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Thanks no one in family really bothered, mydad is with his family, and my father in law with Whiteheads unfortunatly he died last sunday. So i am doing it for me.
I am a member of Ancestry .co.uk where i have all my trees and often go on roots chat for help
Bye for now
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Hi Kaz,
Re:- your Reply -In view of your family loss of late! I would advice not to be involved in graveyard hunting!! as it may have effect on you or a run on effect with your family in view of their grieving process. Also unless you know what to look for!!** as dangers in winter in these resting places of the dead due to sinkage, over growth and unstable headstones in wet muddy winter. Best left to summer and a good stick to test the ground as you walk around, also a good pair of small shears, a heavy type knife to chop (Tell the Police you have one)undergrowth and good walking boots/shoes.
Contact the police, tell them your intentions as to neighbour hoodwatch and there is a lot of lead been stolen of late on churches.
They are very helpful also they will know where you are in case of your well being as to any accidents and your where-abouts. Many local police will check on you while they are on their rounds. Also contact the church wardens as they may have records.
My sincere deepest sympathy
DOB
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I'm wondering if someone can help me find the grave of my great great grandad.He was Edmund Wear 1833-1876.I'm pretty certain he's not in Edgerton Cemetery.At one time he had a business in Far Town,but it failed in 1867 and Edmund was declared bankrupt.I live in Glasgow so I come to look myself.Thanks in advance
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Hi Sandy
I'll put Edmund Wear d 1876 on my to do list, when I go to ancestry repositories in West Yorkshire in coming months as spring is now a coming. If I find anything ??? I will post info on here but if nothing turns up then I won't. :(
All down to luck!
Dob's
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Hi Edmund is not in Edgerton cemetery. there were some Wear's buried in St. Paul's but the graveyard was full by the time of Edmund's death and he was not buried there.
With them living at Fartown and him not being in Edgerton it could be worth a look at Woodhouse Christ Church or a long shot the chapel that was on Deighton Road.
John
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Thanks for the info on Edmund,I'd be very interested to know the names of the Wears in St Paul's as I've recently found Edmund's siblings.The last address I have in 1871 is York Street and his profession is a cartier.I don't know if that's near any cemetery. I'll leave it up to you local people to see if you can find him.Thanks in advance
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Hi Sandy
I called at our library in Huddersfield, I've check burials at St Peter, St Paul , Edgerton cemetery consecrated and non consecrated, Holy Trinity, Almondbury cemetery consecrated and non consecrated and Christchurch Woodhouse burials. St John Birkby near fartown did not do burials and neither did St Mary on old Leeds road (Nearest church to York street) and the is no sign of Edmund's burial 1876. Edmund's sons were baptised together at Christchurch Woodhouse church 1958 in a joint baptisms. York street now long gone was all but opposite Tescos between Bradford road and Leeds road behind Fitzwilliam street in the triangle of the 3 roads/streets.
It's also possible Edmund is buried in a Wear (Weare) family grave in Halifax, he could have been a nonconformist (Very likely in Halifax) and buried in a nonconformist chapel graveyard there in Halifax area.
What I'm thinking is the family moved after the 1871 c, Edmund was born in Halifax and his wife Elizabeth born in Doncaster, they could have moved to another part of Huddersfield, the reason I think this is because it seems Christchurch Woodhouse was their church of worship but Edmund is not buried there which have seemed the likely church,
You really need Edmund's death certificate to find out where he lived at his time of death and the reason he died so young, if it was of fever in a mini epidemic ? then they buried them very fast in multi person fever graves and not always recorded in a cemetery record.
Dob's
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Thank you very much for all your work in looking for Edmund Wear.I will get a death certificate so that,as you say,we can see what he died of. I'll get back to you as soon as I get the certificate. It would be interesting to find out if there were any epidemics in Huddersfield at that time.I'm sure internet will have something somewhere so I'll have a look.
Will be in touch Susan
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Hi Susan
In those days fever was a very common affair (I used the words mini epidemic but meaning more of a local outbreak of a common disease like typhoid controlled to (slum type housing with large families in small rooms of urban squalor) homes in a street/area - quarantine of a few streets or area) and the way they controlled it, buried the deceased as fast as possible in a quarantined area of a church grave yard or council cemetery known as fever sections.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hjM9AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA341&lpg=PA341&dq=huddersfield+town+disease+and+filth+19th+century&source=bl&ots=Zx-SbeJ0vs&sig=7ZPwTdWjsG4smHa_2lQzyhO6Y0E&hl=en&sa=X&ei=80MMU6THB4eM0AWj1IGwDQ&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=huddersfield%20town%20disease%20and%20filth%2019th%20century&f=false
The reason they started large out of town centre cemeteries like Edgerton was St Peter's church yard was filled up and stunk, there was filth, poor sanitation and disease rampant.
http://eprints.hud.ac.uk/8802/1/MoriartyEsther_final_thesis.pdf
Another common issue was infant burials and later adults would make usage of these existing graves of their infant bro's & sisters graves at the parents church of worship churchyard or area. (Ie Edmund born Halifax or Elizabeth in born Doncaster)
The reason why Edmund may not be showing up on Familysearch LDS or Ancestry.com or national burials CD maybe as I said ! nonconformist burials in small chapels or big council run cemeteries with their own records or shared church fever graves. Another thing I noticed was all the local church register church burials seem to dry up around 1870 then cover a few years burials on one page right into the 20th century (These few burials would be existing family graves of deceased buried in old family graves ! like a wife being buried with her husband or infant child burials )
Edmund could have been nonconformist buried in Huddersfield or Halifax as one in a chapel grave yard and his wife Elizabeth could have been Anglican hence her children baptized Anglican.
I'm guessing these two met in domestic service like a maid and carter horse teamster (Estate house coach or stagecoach driverbeing from two distant town areas)
Try Kirklees cemeteries burial search at Aspley Huddersfield
http://www.kirklees.gov.uk/community/localorgs/orgdetails.asp?OrgID=337
and Calderdale cemeteries search at Parkwood Elland for Halifax
http://www.calderdale.gov.uk/advice/births-marriages-deaths/funerals-cremations/park-wood.html
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Yorks Street, Huddersfield see Rail Station St George's Square to get a location fix on google maps to locate today where York Street was near Northumberland Street and Union street is still there
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Same map with St Peter's church on -Edmund should have been buried at St Peter's or Edgerton Cemetery and this makes me believe they moved or buried elsewhere or Halifax
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Hi
The burial in St Paul's are Betty,71, 27 May 1847; Erasmous, 13 month, 28 May 1849; Herbert James, 7 month, 17 Jun 1843; Lamartine, 11 month, 23 May 1833; and Julia Elizabeth, 17 month, 31 May 1848 (spelt Weare); all these living at King Street, Huddersfield. Mary France, 15 Month 16 May 1833, living Castle Gate. Edward, 68, 12 Nov 1840 living Dewsbury.
All I can think of is he was buried in a chapel which would be ether Highfield or the Deighton one I mentioned before or could they have been Baptists then it would be Salendin Nook.
Dobby you mean St Mark's not St. Mary's.
John
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I stand corrected -St Mark's ~ John
Thanks
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For church map and scroll down the list of different denominations
http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/churchmap?GR=SE145167,D=3
This link gives the noncomformist chapels, you can see the the ones with burials and some are listed under Huddersfield others under their own name.
http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/documents/archives/Collections%20Guide%202.pdf
This link gives the Anglican church's
http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/documents/archives/Collections%20Guide%201.pdf
Edmund says he was from Halifax and was baptised in Birstall, Halifax parish boundary with Birstall is Bailiff bridge and Lower wike, so you need to check the abode on Edmund baptism 1832
Halifax on the A 649 Hipperholme, Lightcliffe, Bailiff bridge, runs across Cliftonmoor to Hightown and Littletown, skirting Hartshead, above Brighouse and Huddersfield's Cooperbridge/Roberttown (the other side of the river calder valley on the hill is Sheepbridge Woodhouse/Bradley and Deighton) Kirkheaton parish covers parts of Colnebridge (Cooperbridge) Bradley
Edmunds Brother Timothy b 1829/31 Littletown lived Hipperholme also same occupation as Edmund as a teamster/carter in censuses
Click on the map in link to enlarge map
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Maps/WRYParishes.gif
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Not many Wear's buried in Roberttown think mainly Abraham's family.
John
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Hi John
Just generalising Edmund's Father Timothy sr and his family areas as possible family burial places.
(Yep! ~We're scraping the barrel bottom here-I know! )
Dave
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Member BumbleB has informed me that Edmund Weare baptised 9th Sept 1832 St Peter Birstall abode Halifax father Timothy Weare was a Dyer.
This confirms my theory that this family had a special family church to worship at away from the place of residence, so its possible Edmund's family utilized an existing family grave away from Huddersfield place of residence and death. Being carters (Brother Timothy) by trade in the family transporting a body would be no problem as no regulations them days
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Huddersfield Chronicle and West Yorkshire Advertiser Saturday, August 24, 1872
Huddersfield police court
Edmund Wear of Bradford road and Beaumont Eastwood of Newsome charged with stealing grapevines worth 15 shillings from the greenhouse of their employer Bentley Shaw brewers of Lockwood, pleaded guilty, fined £1 each and released from court.
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many thanks for the information you have all found.I didn't know Edmund's siblings,so it's interesting to see who they were.I have a second cousin whose grand dad was my gran's brother and we share any info,we both have trees on Ancestry.He has all Edmund's siblings on his tree,which gradually I'm putting on my tree.
I recently found a record of Edmund being declared bankrupt in 1867,it seems he had a shop,at that time he was living in Few Town.My thoughts on that are,possibly,the shop was run by his wife as he was a cartier,I'm only guessing.
I have the feeling he was a bit of a rogue! Stealing grape vines in Yorkshire !seems really strange,I'm not implying that he didn't do it,but even today I don't know of anyone having grapevines in Yorkshire.People grow them in the south,I wonder what he planned to do with them!
It's interesting that he stole from a Bernard Shaw as Shaw was his wife's maiden name.
I didn't know what Edmund's father,Timothy did because he died before the census started.Timothy was born in Birstal in 1789,he married Hannah Booth the 11th of July 1811,he died in1840 in Rochdale,what was he doing there? I think his wife Hanna died in 1860,I don't know where. Maybe Bradford?
The theory that the family had a family plot is interesting,going back beyond Timothy,his father was John born1766 in Birstall.
You have given me places to look,which I will do,I'm also going to get a copy of his death certificate to see where he was living when he died and what he died of.
Agian many thanks for info,I will get back if I find anything of interest.
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Maybe if Edmund nicked the old fella's family silver, he would have not noticed but anything out of his garden worth pea nuts ;D
I can only show a snippet of the full article
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Hi
The Birstall, Hartshead area is tricky I have struggled with before. You have all the villages in the parish, Liversedge was in Birstall and that got its own church early 1800s with graveyard and some from Littletown went there but then when Roberttown started they started going there but they also went to Harsthead which was the nearest church to them before, Roberttown was built.
So if I was to guess at a family church for a burial at that time I would say Liversedge (of the Bronte fame) started about 1816, I have index Roberttown and that started about 1845 and he is not in there.
John
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Hi John
What do you know about Rose Hill Birkby cemetery as its start year
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Hi Dob
Rose Hill it is a private green cemetery, I think it only just opened 1990s 2000 not sure.
John
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All I can suggest now! is to ask Kirklees Council to do a full grave search of all its it cemeteries in Huddersfield and Dewsbury areas but it comes at a cost (See link) ???
http://www.kirklees.gov.uk/community/registrars/pdf/grave_search_details.pdf
No doubt Edmund lost his job in 1872 and finding another job after been convicted of stealing from an employer would have made getting another job near impossible ! I would think that could have effected his down hill health. So if an existing family grave was not available ? then a municipal pauper council grave would be the most likely only option his family had.
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What a pity not able to see the full article.Slowly it seems there are a lot of places where he isn't buried,which leaves a few possibles.As I said before,I will get his death certificate,I think Kirklees want about £30 to do a search which I can't afford.
Many thanks for all the help.
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Maybe if Edmund nicked the old fella's family silver, he would have not noticed but anything out of his garden worth pea nuts ;D
I can only show a snippet of the full article
I've type the rest of the article out below
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in the morning, he found that four more bunches
had been taken away and another bunch broken off,
and hanging by the vine, Enquires were made, and
a police officer being sent off, prisoners confessed
they had been there and taken some grapes. He
(Mr. Sykes) was instructed not to press the case harshly
against the younger prisoner, but Mr Shaw thought the elder
ought to have set a better example. With those remarks he
should leave the case in their worships hands .
As prisoner pleaded guilty, no evidence was adduced. Mr Milnes
on behalf of the younger prisoner Eastwood expressed regret for
what had occurredand said that he had four years in the service
of the prosecutor. Prisoners were each fined 20 shillings and ordered
to pay expenses and damages between them.
Unquote
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Hi
I wouldn't go for the Kirklees Search all they would look at would be the council cemeteries which we have done.
For many years some of the family historians in this area have come across missing burials and we have been under the impression that they were missed of the register or there are some registers still to come to light.
I have seen a burial ground next to a chapel in Blackmoorfoot Road and on one map but there are no registers and the area as know been built on. And then you have the original Buxton Road chapel. An early local historian wrote that he remember a graveyard at the chapel but they built the road over it.
John
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I had a look at the Kirklees site and it is £30,which area does Birstall come under?Perhaps as he had connections to there and maybe family still living in that area they helped out when he died or as was mentioned,there was a family plot there.
I will look up Edmund's siblings and see where they lived,I can't do a lot just now as my Ancestry subscription has run out but there are site some sites I can see until I renew it.There's also Halifax where he was born?
My gran,Laura,Edmund's granddaughter would have been affronted to know about his getting on the wrong side of the law,she had a lot of good qualities but she was a terrible snob!
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Lower Wyke is in the parish of Birstall and Lightcliffe in the parish of Halifax but Lightcliffe and Lower Wyke both are near as one same area,
Brighouse, Hipperholme, Clifton, Clifton moor are in Halifax Parish
next villages Hightown, Roberttown and Cleckheaton, Liversedge and Heckmondwike are in Birstall parish
Hartshead Parish is mix villages inbetween with PR abodes on entries of parish Bapt's Marr's and Burial's as Halifax, Birstall, Dewsbury, Kirkheaton and Huddersfield parish boundaries
If you go to your nearest library which has a public computer, you can use 'Anc*stry.com' free library edition, and some [not all] main city/town libraries have free access to 'find m* past' (Ask the library staff for help)
The library USA Anc*stry.com edition seems to have a bigger database, than the UK Anc*stry .co.uk website home edition
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Thanks for your post,yes I know about the library having Ancestry but at the moment I'm not well so I can't get out.I'll get my subscription sorted very soon,I feel lost without it!
With so many villages around Halifax,it's like looking for a needle in a haystack!One good thing is that my geography of Yorkshire has improved.I'll keep searching,he's got to be somewhere.
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Hello,
Does anyone know if there was a burial ground at Buxton Road Chapel in Huddersfield?
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Hello,
Does anyone know if there was a burial ground at Buxton Road Chapel in Huddersfield?
No there was no burial ground at Buxton Road Chapel Huddersfield and no burial register
Scroll down the link to Huddersfield-Buxton road in the link.
http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/documents/archives/Collections%20Guide%202.pdf
(This question has been raised before because the 1851 Huddersfield town plan shows the chapel as if the roof had been cut off, with an internal plan of the chapel, showing the seatings pew positions. At first glance of the map it looks like a burial graveyard but if the St Peters church in Kirkgate is also viewed on the same map, it also has an internal plan of the church seating also with the external graveyard area just saying -Graves with no plan of the graves.)
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Hi
Yes there were burials at Buxton Road Chapel but it was before the split and I think the books are the ones for Queens Street Chapel.
In an early History of Huddersfield the writer recalled that when he was a lad "they just laid the Chapel Hill road over the top of the graveyard."
Regards
John
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Thank you. That's very useful.
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The debate on if Buxton road Chapel had a graveyard or not will go on for years but where are the records or map of it. The baptisms start 1846, and there is no sign of a grave yard on th 1851 map unless it was located elsewhere or shared with Queen street chapel graveyard & records
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Hi
Buxton Road and Queen Street were the same chapel before they split with them building new chapels so the Buxton chapel on the maps is not the original.
I think the registers went with the Queen Street chapel and when they later surveyed the Queen Street chapel they found that the number of burials in the register out numbered the burials they had found which would mean they had be buried elsewhere.
Regards
John
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Hmm. The plot thickens! Thank you
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If there is any other burial registers or memorial insriptions known about -? (from head/flat stone memorials that where taken away when they built the road ) If John does not know of them as he is the best person to know. Then I doubt anyone will know
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Hi,Dob,I feel that I owe you an apology as you did so much to try and find my grt grt grandad Edmund Wear then I stopped contacting you.I don't know how this happened,I've just come across all the info you found and I would like to continue again.
I have Edmund's death certificate,he died on the 30 August 1876.The address is Beaumont Street,cause of death "stomach disease" which he'd had for 2 years.His son Tom was there when he died but it has that his address was Mirfield.I wondered if there was a hospital in Beaumont Street but I couldn't find any record of one.It looks like Tom,John and their mum Eliza weren't living with him.
Going back to Edmund''s father Timothy,His wife Hannah died in 1839,Timothy move to Rotheram and remarried.He died in 1840 and is buried in Rotherham.I still haven't investigated Edmund's siblings so that's next on the list.
I hope we can carry on searching for his grave.
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Hi
I spent months 2014 looking for Edmund Wear burial place 1876 at the Huddersfield & Dewsbury libraries, WYAS archives and Kirklees council cemeteries (Kirklees council covers Huddersfield & Dewsbury towns areas including Batley) to no avail unfortunately. The census states 1861 and 1871 that Edmund was born in Halifax ? (non-conformist ?? - 2 Edmund Wear's b 1832 ish ? one Halifax and one Batley) and you say Edmund was born in Batley ? (circa b 1831 to 1833)
There were a few Beaumont Street's in Huddersfield, one near Bradford Road (Huddersfield town area) were Edmund Wear was living 1871 census, another Beaumont Street at Almondbury old bank, Moldgreen Huddersfield
There is another Beaumont st in Longwood, Huddersfield which has an old Wesleyan Methodist chapel cemetery in Longwood, Huddersfield, which I could not find any records of and Edmund could be buried there.
As for Rotherham issues of your F H - I would post for help on the Rotherham local ancestry forum websites as local folk may know more about Rotherham than a big website like this one. (also Rotherham in South Yorkshire, is 26 miles outside of my domain ancestry searching area -ie:- traveling time reduces search time.)
Dob
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Wow,what can I say,you've spent so much time researching this.You say I said that Edmund was born in Batley? As far as I know he was born in Halifax but that could be wrong as I don't have all the records with me and it's hard trying to keep them all in my head.I need to go and look on my tree to see the name of Timothy's second wife but it's irrelevant,when it comes to his burial place. I've just spent a couple of hours looking at possible places that could help but I've not found anything helpful..I'll get back to you when I've found more info,ie siblings
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Birstall & Batley are as one area now. (Miles from Halifax)
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Thanks John for that,I think I looked in that cemetery and he wasn't there.I will get back to you with the last address I have for him from the 1871 census.Thanks John for that,I think I looked in that cemetery and he wasn't there.I will get back to you with the last address I have for him from the 1871 census.He was born and baptized in Birstal,maybe worth trying there."
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Hi
The Huddersfield Beaumont Street ran from Viaduct Street and joined Fitzwilliam Street at Leeds Road. Would have been Edgerton
The Almondbury one is in Dalton and runs parallel with School Street, from the bottom of Almondbury Bank to Osborne Street. I have found people form this area in Kirkheaton, Almondbury & Huddersfield St. Paul's.
Primrose Hill Chapel could be worth a look at but cannot remember if they had burials.
John
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I know that he's not at Birstall,checked quite a while back.Somehow last night when looking for Huddersfield library,I ended up getting a reply from New York! They passed my query to Huddersfield who said they will get a person from the family history dept to contact me.I'll see what turns up.In the meantime I keep searching anything I think might help.
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I'm still no nearer finding Edmond Wear's burial place.His death certificate doesn't help.There was a notice in the Huddersfield paper to say that he had died but nothing about his funeral.
Deceased on Line are doing graveyards in West Yorkshire,so,"maybe" they will come across him.
Every so often I look at all the sites with burials to see if he's appeared so far nothing.If I don't find anything in a few months,I will pay the £30 and see what they come up with.
This is the last ancestor that I don't know where he is buried,I've found all the rest so I'll find him however long it takes
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Hi
I have had a look at the registers but no sign.
Everything points toward him being buried in Huddersfield Edgerton Cemetery and just had a thought for a long shot. If he was missed off the main register he could be in the grave register books, these are still with the Council and I don't know if the public can look at them.
I would look in the main registers, (consecrated and unconsecrated) at the time of the death and see which public graves where being used and get the section and grave numbers and then have a look at the grave book and that should have the people buried in that grave.
Very long shot.
John
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hi John,I contacted someone,I think,it was the council,they said that he's not in Edgerton but as you say if he's in a comunal grave maybe all the people aren't listed in the normal lists. I'll go back to the lady who looked before and make that suggestion to he.
It would be great if you're right,thanks for the suggestion,I'll let you know what happens.
Susan
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ve contacted the council and asked about any graves with many occupants so see what they say. I think I mentioned that,Deceased on Line are releasing records of West Yorkshire. So far,Edmund's not in the records.I tried different spellings of Wear,but still no luck.
If I get any news will be in touch.
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The Dick Eastman (free) newsletter today listed the three Calderdale cemeteries that Deceased Online have added. They are Rastrick, Luddenden and Elland cemeteries.
I imagine that Bentley Shaw of Lockwood had the grapes grown for his own use. Many wealthy men like him had their own vinery and conservatory.
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Someone,can't remember who,said that they didn't think it was my Edmund that was involved in stealing the grapes.I don't know makes no difference,I'll see if I can find who said that and let you know. I can't imagine what he would want with a bunch of grapes!!!
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It's now January 2017 and I'm still no nearer finding the burial place of my of my grt grt grandad Edmund Wear.He has to be buried SOMEWHERE.I just don't know where to look any more.
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Job is also my g g grandfather. He had an impressive stone in Lockwood cemetery which I can no longer find so presume the council has got rid of it. I do have a pic though if interested
Vicky
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Hi Vicky
I'm a bit confused,you say that Job was your great x2 grandfather,mine was Edmund I don't get the conection.
Susan
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Susan
I'm new to this and was responding to the original post from Libby.
Thanks
Vicky
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Hi Susan
Job's headstone is still there, was laid flat down for safety with the inscription face down - 9 years ago (2008) I found the grave from records of Lockwood cemetery for Libby.
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Hi Libby,
I have just seen your post and it seems you are one of our relatives! My father is Geoffrey Cock (changed to Cox) and he still lives in Huddersfield, his great grandfather is also the Job Cock you are referring too (cabby Cock)!
Dad's friend has done some genealogy research and we have found the Cock tree back to 1707 and a photo of Job with his team which was interesting.
Dad's granddad was Job's son Joe. Please feel free to get in touch, would be brilliant to hear about you! my email is lisa_a_stringer@yahoo.co.uk
Best Wishes
Lisa
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Hi Lisa, not sure if you're still visiting Rootschat. My apologies for the time lapse in getting back to you. When I've got my head around my research I'll email you, thank you for your email address. I lost a lot of my research and am still in the process of collating it all again.
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For all Kirklees metro council cemeteries and cremation records are now held at the Huddersfield crematorium gate office Fixby Huudersfield, some records copies held at the local studies Library Huddersfield, some at The History centre Wakefield and York Heslington University library.