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Title: Thomas William Paulo Place/ Ellsey
Post by: kinsey5156 on Tuesday 08 April 08 15:49 BST (UK)
I am researching my family tree and I have come up against a brick wall trying to find out about a couple of my ancestore

Thomas William Paulo Ellsey b 1813
Thomas William Paulo Place  b 1854

Family stories say that these two were linked to the circus/acting/showman
but I canno tfind any records.

The name Paulo is not a family name and I was wondering if it was a stage name. Also  family stories say that Thomas William Paulo Place was a clown called Boppo.

I have not found any real evidence of this.

Can anyone help.
Title: Re: Thomas William Paulo Place/ Ellsey
Post by: lisajo on Wednesday 17 September 08 13:45 BST (UK)
try looking up the name Pauls as my g grandma was gracy paulo but i've found she was actually gracy pauls and it was circus family am stuck myself now though
Title: Re: Thomas William Paulo Place/ Ellsey
Post by: lisajo on Monday 06 October 08 14:51 BST (UK)
also the proper name i have since found out was either butcher or baker xx
Title: Re: Thomas William Paulo Place/ Ellsey
Post by: hiawatha1910 on Tuesday 18 November 08 13:11 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I was doing a google search relating to the Paulo's and it picked this thread on rootschat.  I am not sure if someone has already given you this information, but here goes.  Henry J Butcher (stage name Paulo; an acrobat)  married Caroline Baker (real name possibly Prigg, a tight rope dancer) and their children were John Henry Butcher (Paulo) b.1861; Thomas James Butcher (Paulo) b.1864; Elizabeth A Butcher (Paulo) b.1866, Joseph William Butcher (Paulo) b.1867, Emma S Butcher (Paulo) b.1869. Henry B Butcher (Paulo) b.1873, Grace Butcher (Paulo) b 1875, Frank Stephen Butcher (Paulo) b.1878 and Caroline Maud Butcher (Paulo) b.1880.

Caroline Maud Butcher is my great grandmother.    Frank Stephen Butcher's Family started the Paulo Circus which is still going today.  Two weeks ago I was in Bristol and was fortunate enough to go and see the Paulo circus and meet the family and share some information on the family tree.  The only information they have on Grace Butcher in the family tree printout is that she was born in 1875 and died in 1930.    There is a lot more information on the other family members if you are interested.


Title: Re: Thomas William Paulo Place/ Ellsey
Post by: lisajo on Tuesday 18 November 08 13:56 GMT (UK)
hiya thanks yes i have got that info but not on gracys death Grace married my great grandad william peach so i am gracys great grandad and therefor your relative? i think i have contact with another member of family from ancestry site? i would love any info that you received in Bristol please that would be great also do you know anything bout william peach as am having great difficulty with that. thankyou xxxxxx
Title: Re: Thomas William Paulo Place/ Ellsey
Post by: deb usa on Tuesday 18 November 08 17:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Lisajo

Do you have Grace Butcher and William Peach's marriage cert .... that would at least give you his age and fathers name and occupation?

deb :)
Title: Re: Thomas William Paulo Place/ Ellsey
Post by: lisajo on Wednesday 19 November 08 14:55 GMT (UK)
no deb i cant find any record of their marriage am having a nightmare there with that i cant find record of williams birth all i've got is my grandas birth cert xxxxxxxx
Title: Re: Thomas William Paulo Place/ Ellsey
Post by: deb usa on Wednesday 19 November 08 15:06 GMT (UK)
Hi ...I wonder if they married later on ....

marriage;
Grace Butcher = William PEACH
june q  1922 
Spouse's Surname: Peach 
Kings Norton, Staffordshire, Warwickshire 
6d  284

deb :)
Title: Re: Thomas William Paulo Place/ Ellsey
Post by: deb usa on Wednesday 19 November 08 15:11 GMT (UK)
these are births that I found with mother's maiden name BUTCHER ...there is none with Paulo

Grace Peach
dec q1915 
Mother's Maiden Name: Butcher 
 Kings Norton Staffordshire, Warwickshire 
6d   178

Harry Peach
dec q 1913 
Mother's Maiden Name: Butcher 
Kings Norton   
6d   197

deb

Title: Re: Thomas William Paulo Place/ Ellsey
Post by: lisajo on Thursday 20 November 08 13:51 GMT (UK)
 :) thankyou deb that is very helpful do you know where i can find williams birth it was sposed to be in bristol somewhere xxxx
Title: Re: Thomas William Paulo Place/ Ellsey
Post by: deb usa on Thursday 20 November 08 14:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Lisajo

There are many William Peach births .... I'm afraid that the only way we could find him is if you order the marriage cert which will give us his age and father's name and occupation also it would confirm Grace's details aswell.

deb
Title: Re: Thomas William Paulo Place/ Ellsey
Post by: lisajo on Friday 21 November 08 13:13 GMT (UK)
ok thankyou i'll do that then. Now you have found the date of marriage and where it was held xxxxxxx
much appreciation deb thanks xxxx ;D
Title: Re: Thomas William Paulo Place/ Ellsey
Post by: Dani13 on Friday 16 June 17 19:56 BST (UK)
Hi, I know this is an old thread but I was hoping someone might have some information for me. Caroline Baker was my 4th great grandmother. I am trying to find out the parents of Henry J Butcher?
Title: Re: Thomas William Paulo Place/ Ellsey
Post by: kennydarnelljnr on Wednesday 24 January 18 12:02 GMT (UK)
@Dani13 Could you drop me an email
Thanks

Kenny

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Title: Re: Thomas William Paulo Place/ Ellsey
Post by: Dani13 on Friday 26 January 18 11:40 GMT (UK)
Thanks Kenny!
Title: Re: Thomas William Paulo Place/ Ellsey
Post by: kennydarnelljnr on Friday 26 January 18 11:42 GMT (UK)
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