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Title: Hurst...?Jam
Post by: redkop on Wednesday 09 April 08 14:02 BST (UK)

Hi,

the story goes in my family that my grandfather, James Hurst Miller was named after his father had made some kind of deal with a jam manufacturer called Hurst. My mum believes this story even today.  :o

I have tried to google it, with no joy.  ::)

Does anyone know of a Hurst Jam making company. I presume it is in Lancashire, because this is where my grandparents and gt grandparents lived. My grandfather was born 1905, Liverpool.

Thanks in advance,

Red   :)
Title: Re: Hurst...?Jam
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 09 April 08 14:27 BST (UK)
Nearest I can find is a preserve manufacturer in Stockport by the name of John Greenhalgh Ltd, whose factory was in Hurst Street in Reddish. A bit tenuous!
Title: Re: Hurst...?Jam
Post by: Duck on Wednesday 09 April 08 14:30 BST (UK)
What year are we looking at ?

Sorry didn't read full post  ???
Title: Re: Hurst...?Jam
Post by: redkop on Thursday 10 April 08 09:33 BST (UK)


thanks Shaun, I'm thinking it was a story my Nan made up, and my mum and her siblings have believed it all this time  ::)

Duck   ;D

Red   :)
Title: Re: Hurst...?Jam
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 10 April 08 09:58 BST (UK)
Don't give up Red, there's always a grain of truth in these stories.

Just found this:

"I am trying to trace the history of Hurst's jam preserves which used to be situated where ASDA can be found today. I believe it was started by William Hurst in about 1911. He was the son of William and Ellen Hurst who lived in Caroline Street, Wigan. It was then taken over by Thomas Hurst, one of his sons. It finally closed in about the 1950's, possibly sold out to Mathers. "

Posted 17th February 2005 on http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/familyhistory/messages.php?offset=900&opt=f
Title: Re: Hurst...?Jam
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 10 April 08 10:12 BST (UK)
Here's another reference - same person:

"The float belonged to William Hurst, fruit preservers of Wigan. He was my greatgrandfather, who started the fruit preserving works in 1911."

http://www.wlct.org/Culture/Heritage/pf33.pdf

See page 41
Title: Re: Hurst...?Jam
Post by: liverpool annie on Thursday 10 April 08 19:09 BST (UK)


I found this on Wigan World too Red !!

11 June - Death at Southport of Mr. William Hurst director of William Hurst and Sons, preserve manufacturers aged 57 years

http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/stuff/chronology.php?opt=chrono&yr=1949

Annie  :)
Title: Re: Hurst...?Jam
Post by: redkop on Thursday 10 April 08 20:34 BST (UK)


Thank you Shaun and Annie  ;)

The story goes that the owner of Hurst Jams didn't have any sons. So he made a deal with my gt grandfather. He asked him to name his next born child with the Hurst name, and he would give my gt grandfather shares in the company. Apparently, nothing was ever written down on paper. And when my grandfather was born, he was named James Hurst Miller. The owner backed down from his side of the deal  ??? ::) :o :-\ ;D

Thats the story my nan told my mum and her siblings.

Researching this branch of my tree reveals that my gt grandfathers mother's maiden name was...Hurst  :o ;D

Who know why she told this story, or if   there is a connection somewhere between the Hursts in my tree and the Hurst jam boss. My Hurst family came from Upholland.

Red   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hurst...?Jam
Post by: redkop on Thursday 10 April 08 20:35 BST (UK)


Gadget..are you reading this one   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hurst...?Jam
Post by: lisaoftheforest on Tuesday 07 February 17 17:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Red,

Reading this was funny as William Hurst is my Great Great Grandfather. He owned Hurst Jams in Wigan. He had one son named Thomas Hurst and as far as I know three daughters. Thomas had two sons and a daughter, one of the boys being my Grandfather Kenneth. Kenneth and my Grandmother Marion along with my father Ian, sister Ann and brother Graham immigrated to Ontario Canada in 1950. Apparently though I have not visited Wigan yet,  there is a plaque in the Wigan church inscribed with his name as a funder of the church... Neither my Grandfather nor his brother Arnold wanted the jam works so Thomas sold the jam works just before my Grandfather left for Canada. I had always wanted to know who he sold it too but do not have that information.
Just thought I'd write.
Title: Re: Hurst...?Jam
Post by: HeatherLynne on Wednesday 08 February 17 06:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Lisa, welcome to RootsChat! 
Redkop was last on this site at the end of December but should receive a notification that there's been a post on this thread.
Hopefully Red will turn up soon, in the mean time have a look around this brilliant site, it's a great place!
Heather
Title: Re: Hurst...?Jam
Post by: andrewalston on Thursday 09 February 17 18:37 GMT (UK)
The Ellesmere Preserve Works at Newtown were previously run by my second cousin twice removed Robert Alstead.

Sometime between 1898 and 1901 Robert moved into the drapery trade instead.

His wife's family ran Deakin's Jam, with their factory (Eclipse Preserve Works) being just off Chapel Lane.
Title: Re: Hurst...?Jam
Post by: Gwyneth Harrison on Sunday 18 March 18 16:05 GMT (UK)
I am a great granddaughter of William Hurst who was managing directer of Hurst's jam preserves which was in Soho Street Wigan, about where Asda is now. My grandfather, Thomas then took the jamworks over, but sold out in the 50's, believed to be Mather's. Thomas had two sons and one daughter. Arnold (my father),Kenneth, and Dorothy. Arnold would have probably taken over from his father, but died in 1944. Kenneth and Dorothy emigrated to Canada. Kenneth died in Canada, but Dorothy returned to England. Arnold had three children,two girls and a boy; Kenneth had two children, a boy and a girl; Dorothy had two girls. There are many more descendants. I have quite a lot of family history going back several generations if anyone is interested.