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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: maxine57 on Tuesday 24 June 08 10:52 BST (UK)
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Looking for any rootschatters that have these families.
James Culhane b. 1818 Ireland m. Catherine Murphy.
Son - John Joseph Robert b. 1845 Ardlaghan County Limerick. m. Mary Margaret Smith.
Daughter - Annie Mary Culhane b. 1878 Aust. m. William O'Brien b. 1873 Aust.
I have information on O'Brien's but have just started to discover my Culhane(Cullen) links.
William O'Brien son of Charles O'Brien b. 1809 Ireland Armagh
died 1905 moggill married Catherine News 1829-1902
Charles O'Brien emigrated to QLD with 2 brother William and James aboard the "Queen of the colonies" 1863.
They all settled in the area of Moggill QLD.
Charles the Elder had 11 children with Catherine
Charles 1854 mar. Annie Garrigan
John 1856 mar minnie Coffey
Edward 1858 mar. ? then Lizzie McKay(Marsh)
Mary 186? mar. james Wishart
Catherine 1863 mar. Daniel Howard
Patrick 1864 mar. Annie Quigley
Felix 1866 mar. Mary Marsh
Lucy 1868 mar. Timothy O'Driscoll
James 1870 mar. Hannah Mary Hall
William 1872 mar. Annie Culhane (as above)
Frances(frank) 1874 mar Bridget culhane
Have searched old links and posts no much there, so have put the main descendent's on here for all to view.
Hope there is is someone here you know about
Thanks all Maxine :)
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This evening I was reading about author , Martina Devlin , who has written about an ancestor , Thomas O'Brien , of Bonavie , County Limerick . She discovered that he was one of those who died on the Titanic . Could this be a connection for you ?
Regards ,
Linden
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Thanks Linden ;)
Wouldn't that be interesting. I still have 3 missing brothers from the O'Brien's in Ireland. if something turns up I'll let you know.
Thanks Maxine
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Hi Maxine,
I think the Catherine NEWS who married Charles O'BRIEN in Lurgan, Co Armagh is the sister of my ancestor, Patrick NEWS. Their parents were Edward NEWS & Mary Ann GRACEY.
As far as I can see Catherine & Charles had the following children who were b in Lurgan.
Charles 1 Jul 1855
Charles 19 Jul 1856
John Charles 10 Sep 1857
Edward 11 May 1859
Mary 30 Aug 1860
Hope this is of interest to you.
Gail
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Hi Gail
What a lovely surprise to here from someone.
I dont have all my information with me at the moment but it sounds very much like part of the family, although the dates are slightly different.
I will check tonight and message you soon.
I know nothing of Catherine's family so this would be wonderful if we can join the families.
Sorry for the delayed reply, but have been unable to rootschat for some time.
Will contact you as soon as I can
Regards MaxineHi Maxine,
I think the Catherine NEWS who married Charles O'BRIEN in Lurgan, Co Armagh is the sister of my ancestor, Patrick NEWS. Their parents were Edward NEWS & Mary Ann GRACEY.
As far as I can see Catherine & Charles had the following children who were b in Lurgan.
Charles 1 Jul 1855
Charles 19 Jul 1856
John Charles 10 Sep 1857
Edward 11 May 1859
Mary 30 Aug 1860
Hope this is of interest to you.
Gail
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Hi Maxine,
Tried to send you a personal message so I could give you my email address ... but can't seem to find how to do it!!!!!!!
Anyhow, am looking forward to hearing from you again.
All the best,
Gail
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Hi Gail, :)
Welcome to rootschat.
Here is a link that will help you understand the Personal Message sytem on rootschat.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,161799.0.html
You will need to have posted three times to be able to PM people.
Just reply to a post with a smiley that will get you up to three post or just reply to my post I have just done to you.
Johngirl :)
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Hi again Gail,
To PM Maxine click onto her username in her post maxine57 and it will take you to her profile. Scroll down and you will see it written ,send a personal message to this person. Click onto that and a reply box will appear. Type in what you want to say to this person then scroll down and you will see a send message in a rectangle, click onto this to send your message.Hope this helps.
Johngirl :)
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Thanks very much John-girl - Maxine has sent me a personal message with her email address so all is well.
All the best,
Gail
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Thats great Gail,
Hope my waffling on about P.M`s helped :D
Have a great Christmas and New Year :)
Johngirl
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Hi Maxine,
My name is Erin MacDonald. And I have just recently discovered that my great great grandmother was called Bridget Culhane. She was born circa 1854 in Limerick and arrived in Australia in 1875 on a ship called the "Ramsey". Her parents were James Culhane and Catherine Murphy. I don't know much more than that as it seems she emigrated alone on that ship. She married my g/g grandfather, Patrick Kinnane who was originally from County Clare. Have you any further information on the Culhane side?
Thanks,
Erin
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Hello there Erin
Welcome to Rootscat
What state in Australia died Bridget Culhane arrive ?
Jenn
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Hi Jenn,
She arrived in Queensland, most probably Brisbane. She and my g/g grandfather lived and raised their family in the Ipswich Area.
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HEllo there Erin
IT would be better if you started a New Topic that way more of our rootschatters will see it.
Jenn
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Hi Erin
Just a quick hello to let you know I have read your message.
My research is at home will read tonight and forward what I have to you.
Bridgett Culhane is definately in my research.
Speak soon
Maxine :)Hi Maxine,
My name is Erin MacDonald. And I have just recently discovered that my great great grandmother was called Bridget Culhane. She was born circa 1854 in Limerick and arrived in Australia in 1875 on a ship called the "Ramsey". Her parents were James Culhane and Catherine Murphy. I don't know much more than that as it seems she emigrated alone on that ship. She married my g/g grandfather, Patrick Kinnane who was originally from County Clare. Have you any further information on the Culhane side?
Thanks,
Erin
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Thanks Maxine :)
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Hello again Erin
I have to say that I have not confirmed any of this information a yet as I have not yet looked into the Culhane family tree too much but will tell you what I have discovered and you can research further.
William O'Brien Mar. Annie Mary Culhane St Mary's R.C. church Ipswich 01.081900(my hubby's gg grandparents)
William's younger brother Francis Joseph O'Brien mar. Bridget Mary Culhane same church in 1901
I haven't checked that they were sisters but looks highly likely?
When I traced Annie Culhane I found John Joseph Robert Culhane father and Mary Margaret Smith mother.mar same church 1866.
John Culhane's parents show as James Culhane bdm in Ireland married Catherine Murphy Ireland.
I also found James Culhane may have married twice?
John Joseph Culhane born abt 1845 Ardlaghan Limerick
died 16.06.1917 Pine Mountain.
So are details are alike in some ways but needs more research, hopefully some of this can help you along the way.
If you find we are connected( that Annie and Bridget are sisters) I will have more details to share with you.
Moving house this weekend so no internet, will reply ASAP
Regards Maxine
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Hi again Maxine,
I hope your move to the new place goes ok. I know how horrible moving can be!
I think that my Bridget Culhane was the sister of John Joseph Robert Culhane. As her parents are James Culhane and Catherine Murphy as well. I know that she was born somewhere in Limerick, Ireland in about c.1854. She married my G/G grandfather, Patrick Kinnane in 1883 in the Ipswich area. They had six children. So there is a small connection possibly? I am continuing my search on the Culhane's this weekend though.
Thanks again for the info!
Erin
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Morning Erin
Let me know what you find out, will speak next week.
Have you searched familysearch yet?.Your Culhane family are there,and mine but dont have time to investigate properly at the moment.
Happy hunting
Maxine :)
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Hi im trying to find information on my grandfathers mother Ellen Theresa Culhane her parents were margaret Smith and John James Joeseph Culhane born in 1885 married margaret on 22/7/1886 in my home town Ipswich does any one know of her i have been to the pinemountain cemetery and seen some graves but not hers want to know what happened to her as my grandfather said she died young .
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Hi I'm trying to find information on my grandfathers mother Ellen Theresa Culhane her parents were Margaret Smith and John James Joesph Culhane born in 1885 married Margaret on 22/7/1886 in my home town Ipswich does any one know of her i have been to the pinemountain cemetery and seen some graves but not hers want to know what happened to her as my grandfather said she died young .
Hi Alana-Maree
Your Ellen Theresa Culhane was sister to our Annie Mary Culhane(how married William O'Brien) and sister Bridget Culhane who also married an O'Brien Francis Joseph.(brothers)
Here is some info I have found to help you on your way.
Mary Margaret Smith born Cavan, Ireland abt. 1847 Mar. John Joseph Robert Culhane 22 July, 1866 as you said.
I have her death as 25 March, 1909 Pine Mt?
They had 10 children together
I also have your Ellen Theresa born 29 Dec. 1876 died 1917 is this correct?
I have more info if you would like it,also any information your can give me on your family line that I can add to Ellen Theresa would be great.
Regards Maxine(I lived in Ipswich for many years) we still have family and friends there.
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Hi there Maxine , yes margaret did die on 25/3/1909 . i have ellen born on 29/11/1876 but didnt know when she passed away . when i put her name in google it came up that she was in the wolston park hospital i t6hink maybe she had some sort of mental illness or something my poppy said she had bad astma . but it seemed to be kept quite as he didnt speak to much about her his name is Gabriel James Edwin Hefferan we lost him on the 5/12/1994 he was born on 14/2/1908 he was one of 7 children to Ellen & John Hefferan they got married on the 20/10/1897 .
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Hi, am researching the O'Brien's also. Charles O'Brien and his wife Catherine News (through their son James who married Hannah Mary HALL).
Have only just "discovered" them recently, so am keen to find out more.
THankyou
Timna
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Hello there Timna
Welcome to Rootschat
How can we help you?
What are you wanting to find out please
thanks Jenn
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Hi Timna,
Delighted to find someone else interested in the NEWS line in Australia.
Have sent you a personal message with my email address so we can share information.
All the best,
Gail
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Hi!!!!!
I just found this forum. I think I'm from Lucy's lineage, as (I think) Lucy had Julia (great grandmother), who had Mary (nana), who had my mum, who had me :) I'd love to find out some more.
My nana always spoke about Moggill and loved it out there.
As far as I know, Catherine was burnt in a fire in Moggill, and then they named a church in her honour called St Catherines Church, which was then moved to Toowoomba.
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Hi Moonshine,
Would you give us some more information? I can't find a Lucy O'Brien in my tree. When was she born?
All the best,
Gail
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From the research in above links, and through talking to my aunty:
Charles O'Brien married Catherine News- they were the ones who came over on one of the ships.
One of their daughters was Lucy O'Brien, who married Timothy O'Driscoll
They then had Julia O'Driscoll and a few others
Julia then had Mary (my grandmother), however Mary I believe was brought up by Lucy and Tim.
Mary married my grandad and became a Moran
They then had 6 kids, one of which is my mother.
I think that's how I fit into the equation :)
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Hi again Moonshine,
Still can't find a birth for Lucy ... have found other children of Charles O'BRIEN and Catherine NEWS ... the first five were born in Lurgan, Co Armagh. Catherine was b. on "Queen of the Colonies" 1863 and the others were b. in Qld.
Did find the marriage of Lucy O'Brien to Timothy O'DRISCOLL 1892 Qld.
I wonder where and what year Lucy was born?
Would you like the information I have on the family? I will send my email address through a personal messsage so just let me know.
Really pleased to have found another descendant ;D
Gail
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Hi Gail, I'm Kristie :)
From the very first post in this forum by Maxine:
"Looking for any rootschatters that have these families.
James Culhane b. 1818 Ireland m. Catherine Murphy.
Son - John Joseph Robert b. 1845 Ardlaghan County Limerick. m. Mary Margaret Smith.
Daughter - Annie Mary Culhane b. 1878 Aust. m. William O'Brien b. 1873 Aust.
I have information on O'Brien's but have just started to discover my Culhane(Cullen) links.
William O'Brien son of Charles O'Brien b. 1809 Ireland Armagh
died 1905 moggill married Catherine News 1829-1902
Charles O'Brien emigrated to QLD with 2 brother William and James aboard the "Queen of the colonies" 1863.
They all settled in the area of Moggill QLD.
Charles the Elder had 11 children with Catherine
Charles 1854 mar. Annie Garrigan
John 1856 mar minnie Coffey
Edward 1858 mar. ? then Lizzie McKay(Marsh)
Mary 186? mar. james Wishart
Catherine 1863 mar. Daniel Howard
Patrick 1864 mar. Annie Quigley
Felix 1866 mar. Mary Marsh
Lucy 1868 mar. Timothy O'Driscoll
James 1870 mar. Hannah Mary Hall
William 1872 mar. Annie Culhane (as above)
Frances(frank) 1874 mar Bridget culhane
Have searched old links and posts no much there, so have put the main descendent's on here for all to view.
Hope there is is someone here you know about"
I found a list of people on the Queen of the Colonies- http://www.merriottfamiliesgenealogy.net/queen_of_the_colonies.htm
Lucy O'Brien married Timothy O'Driscoll, and then they had Julie (my great grandmother), and Julie had Mary out of wedlock, and Julie married I think a Jimmy Maddern, and they had a few Maddern's.
I'll PM you :)
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Hi to all
I am away until mid November, unable to send any information until I get home.This is just to let you know I am still around and would still love to help
My hubby's grandfather John Joseph OReilly who married Annie Agnus O'Brien donated the ground on which St. Catherine's church was placed.Yes she did perish in a fire,her cloths caught fire and they couldn't save her.Has any one confirmed that the church went to Toowoomba? would love to know.
Happy hunting
Maxine5757
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Yeah I've heard that the church is now in Toowoomba.
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Still appears to be at Moggill
St Catherine's - 3356 Moggill Road, Moggill
http://bne.catholic.net.au/asp/index.asp?pgid=11566
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Accordinging to this link there was a previous St Catherine
http://www.rc.net/brisbane/ourladyrosary/
The Jesuits arrived in Toowong in 1916 and for almost ten years ministered in an area covered by the present parishes of Toowong, Kenmore, Indooroopilly and St Lucia. The last three of these became a separate parish in 1924, and the first Catholic chuch in the Kenmore area was the original St Catherine’s on the corner of Grandview and Moggill roads.
Mick
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Hi, just wanted to say a big thankyou to Gail for the information she sent regarding the O'Brien family connections.
Jenn, thankyou for your lovely welcome message - I can provide the following:
Charles O'Brien and Catherine News' son James O'Brien married Hannah Mary Hall in abt 1896. Their daughter, Edna Averil Vivian O'Brien was born abt 1902. Edna is who I am particularly interested in. She is a bit of a mystery lady.
According to the Historical records on the Dept Justice website, Edna married a William George Higgins in 1924 but by 1936 she was on the Electoral Roll as "married" to Leonard Corlett PYE. She went on to have a number of children to Leonard. Leonard himself had a first marriage, and it appears his first wife left him with their eldest son, taking the daughter with her and moving in with another man. He was apparently bitter about this to his dying day. I am unsure when and where Edna passed away - not sure whether this is because I am not looking in the right places or whether she went under a different name.
I am after any further information on Edna Averil Vivian O'Brien (Higgins, Pye)....
Thankyou
Kind regards
Timna
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Hi
My name is ray lock and my gran was a culhane from Pine Mt Ipswich and also some info My side of the family is from John culhanes 2nd marage he is uried with his 1st wife margret smith and one of there girls died aged 4yrs
If U would like more info please contact me I would be more than happy to pass on as much info as possable
happy new yr
Regards
Ray L
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Hi Ray
Happy New Year to you
Would love to exchange any information I have also.
This is my hubby's family but I am the researcher.
I have found many families he is connected to at Pine Mt,recently found Sherlock's.
Will check our tree ASAP
Regards Maxine
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Hello Maxine
Wondering if we have a connection. I'm a direct O'Brien descendant. My O'Briens were from Lurgan, County Armagh. I've done a lot of research on Lurgan. I've often wondered if Charles O'Brien, who married Catherine News at Shankill RC Church, Lurgan on 10 September 1857 is related to my Joseph O'Brien (born c.1831) husband of Margaret Patterson. I took number of BDMs from the Shankill register microfilm a few years back. According to my research on the marriage of Charles O'Brien and Catherine News, the witnesses at their wedding were John Hogan and Margaret McCorry. Does this tally with the information you have on this family? I also have a baptism of:
Edward O'Brien, son of Charles and Catherine News, on 11 May 1859 at Shankill, Lurgan. Sponsor: Pat News.
Mary O'Brien, daughter of Charles and Catherine News, on 30 August 1860 at Shankill Lurgan. Sponsors: James Coulter and Mrs News.
Charles, son of Charles and Catherine News, on 19 July 1856 at Shankill, Lurgan. Sponsors: Edward and Mary J. News.
Let me know if this is your family and maybe we can work out if there's a connection between our families.
Cheers, Mary
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Hi Maxine
My apologies. That date 10 September 1857 wasn't the marriage date of Charles and Catherine News. Sorry. It was the baptism date of their son John. He was baptised at Shankill RC Lurgan on 10 September 1857 and John Hogan and Margaret McCorry were his sponsors.
Cheers
Mary
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On Sunday 9th May 2013 At Graham Hall, Fig tree Pocket State School.
O'Brien Family 150year reunion.
For further information
obrienbrothers150(at)gmail.com
William O'Brien son of Charles O'Brien b. 1809 Ireland Armagh
died 1905 moggill married Catherine News 1829-1902
Charles O'Brien emigrated to QLD with 2 brother William and James aboard the "Queen of the colonies" 1863.
They all settled in the area of Moggill QLD.
Charles the Elder had 11 children with Catherine
Charles 1854 mar. Annie Garrigan
John 1856 mar minnie Coffey
Edward 1858 mar. ? then Lizzie McKay(Marsh)
Mary 186? mar. james Wishart
Catherine 1863 mar. Daniel Howard
Patrick 1864 mar. Annie Quigley
Felix 1866 mar. Mary Marsh
Lucy 1868 mar. Timothy O'Driscoll
James 1870 mar. Hannah Mary Hall
William 1872 mar. Annie Culhane (as above)
Frances(frank) 1874 mar Bridget culhane
Thanks all Maxine :)
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Hello, I found this site when Googling O'Briens Moggill so registered. I don't know whether you are still after information but I have family trees of all three O'Brien brothers somewhere, plus other information -just have to dig it up.
Charles was my Great Great Grandfather.
Cheers
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I got your PM but for some reason cannot send a reply to you as the system says I can't send PMs. Anyway until that gets sorted out I can tell you I have about 10 pages and can scan and send them when possible.
Cheers
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Cheers
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Planxty once you have made three posts you will then be able to reply to PM`s.You only have to reply to my post and then that will make you three posts :)
Johngirl
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Thanks for that
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I was recently given these by my great uncle T O'Brien as I am looking into family history, with the reasons stating why they chose to leave Ireland and poems written by some of the O'Brien men. If anyone has anymore information or would like to see these just let me know.
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:)
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I think I have paper work which connects the Pye family to the Corlett family in Australia . Fred .