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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Wigtownshire => Topic started by: beannie on Wednesday 25 June 08 14:18 BST (UK)
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Hi All,
I thought I would follow Terry's lead and offer look up's for these Graveyards.
Regards
Beenie
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Hello Beannie,
As Terry lives in the Border Country, it's quite a toddle to the Kirkmaiden area for him. However, it's an even longer one from here in Melbourne, Australia! I'm only kidding, of course.
I saw your most generous offer and wondered if I could ask you, very nicely, if you could have a look for me at Kirkmaiden, Wigtown. I get the strong impression that my Great-Grandfather's first wife, Elizabeth, would be buried there. She was Elizabeth Ferns who died in 1873 at Kirkmaiden in Wigtownshire. I believe that her Maiden Surname was McDonald. My Great-Grandfather died about 11 years later in Glasgow at the age of 48, so I would think that Elizabeth would have died when she was in her 30's.
Very many thanks and best wishes.
Tom.
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Hi All,
I thought I would follow Terry's lead and offer look up's for these Graveyards.
Regards
Beenie
Hi Beannie,
Thanks very much for the offer it's a longshot but are there any Brawl/Broll/Broal or any other variation of this name on your MI's.
Regards
Terry (her not him)
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Hi Terry,
I'm sorry there aren't any Broll/Brawl or anything near in any of the MI books I have.
Kind Regards
Beenie
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Hi Beenie,
Many thanks for trying and it's back to the drawing board!!
Regards
Terry
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Hi Tom,
I'm sorry there are no Ferns or McDonald's in the kirkmaiden MI book, but there are four McDonald's in the Stoneykirk book, which is the next Parish to Kirkmaiden. Do you know if Elizabeth was from this area? If so I can send the MI's to youas they may be her relatives.
Kind Regards
Beenie
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Hello Beannie,
You're "a good 'un" for getting back to me so quickly, and I really appreciate that.
Well, thanks to your kindness, I can rule out one area and concentrate on a more hopeful area. To be perfectly honest, I knew very little about
Elizabeth McDonald for a long, long time, and still don't know very much about her family. Still, I'm a wee bit like a little West Highland terrier that we used to have - I don't give things up very easily once I get my teeth into it!
Yes, I would welcome any information that you may have, because I have all the time in the world to examine it and try out a number of techniques that I'm working on. You know, Beannie, it's people like yourself who really make my day. No fuss and splutter - just a friendly helping hand, and that's how many of us on RootsChat like it.
My very best wishes.
Tom.
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Hi Tom,
Here are the MI's in Stoneykirk cemetery
Erected by David McDONALD in memory of Hugh McDONALD his father who died 25th Decr. 1877 aged 77 years. Also Agnes FLEMING his wife who died 24th Augt. 1877 aged 76 years. Also Catherine BATHGATE, wife of the above David McDONALD who died 14 Jany. 1887 aged 50 years.
How sweet they sleep beneath the sand, Relieved from every pain. Their precious dust the cure of God, And recieved to life again.
Erected by the family in memory of James McDONALD their father who died 25th Novr. 1883 aged 94 years. Also Jane McCUBBIN thier mother who died 14th June 1861 agecd 64 years and Rachel McDONALD their sister who died 17th Novr 1875 aged 45 years.
(small granite stone - Regimental badge) 1100 Sarjeant R. McDONALD K.O. Scottish Borderers 24th October 1915.
checked CWGC K.O. stands for King's Own, and age unknown.
In memory of Helen PETTIGREW beloved wife of William MARSHALL late farmer, Claycroft Stoneykirk who died 16th May 1873 aged 76 years. Also the above William MARSHALL died at Claycroft Stoneykirk who died 4th March 1878 aged 84 years. Also their son Samuel MARSHALL late tenant Claycroft who died 15th Feby 1897 aged 57 years. Also Margaret MARSHALL beloved wife of John McGILL and daughter of the above who died at Avon cottage Stranraer 2nd Aug 1906 aged 71 years, Also their daughter Helen MARSHALL who died at Claycroft Stoneykirk 19th Jan 1909 aged 78 years Also John McGILL who died at Avon cottage 4th January 1910 aged 75 years. And Sarah MARSHALL widow of Charles McDONALD died 1st July 1915 aged 76 years. (Reverse) Also Helen McGILL died 15th May 1936 aged 73 years. And Margaret Jane McGILL died 29th January 1954 aged 84 years. Daughters of the above said Margaret MARSHALL and John McGILL
On the 1841 census at Caldons Stoneykirk
John McDonald 45 Ag lab born Ireland with his wife Janet 36 and children John 14, Janet 12, Agnes 9, Charles 7, Elizabeth 5 and Jean 2 all born Wig
I don't know if this could be your Elizabeth ?
I hope this helps and isn't too confusing
Kind Regards
Beenie
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Hi Beannie,
Gee, I like the look of that latest piece of work that you've done. There are certainly some names in there that I recognise from my notes, e.g. McGill's. However, that Irish connection at the end of your posting is the jewel in the crown. I'm not going to jump to any conclusions at this stage. I think that this is one of those occasions when I turn to our good friends in Ireland who have been corresponding with me in recent weeks.
Time and time again, I have hit this kind of Irish connection, and things appear to get tantalisingly clearer, but, there just isn't sufficient proof for me to insert it into my Family Tree. There are a great many sites in the Emerald Isle that people have been kind enough to give me, and I will work my way through them to see what I can come up with.
Again, thanks a million for a job really well done.
My very best wishes.
Tom.
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Hi Beannie,
Haven't forgotten about you - working merrily away on that terrific information plus some other work from my Home County - dear old Fife. It's simply grand when a group of people can work together in harmony and come up with such great detail. I just love that part of my hobby, but, unfortunately I tend to forget certain details unless I record them in my computer files. It can be most frustrating, but I have no choice in the matter - I simply have to continue taking medication.
Again, very many thanks for that wonderful slab of information, it's greatly appreciated.
Best Wishes,
Tom.
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Hi!
I've just managed to surface after plumbing the depths! No, just kidding, because, quite seriously, I don't think that I've done too badly at all over the past couple of days :)
Let's take a much closer look at Hugh McDonald and his wife, Agnes Fleming. Hugh would have been born around 1800 and Agnes about 1801. We know that Hugh died in Christmas Day 1877 and Agnes had died about four months earlier on 24th August, 1877.
I was lucky enough to find an extracted Marriage Certificate which stated:
Source Info: Batch No: M118984 Date: 1818-1839.
Source Call No: 1068041.
Hugh McDonald married Agnes Fleming on 10th April, 1828 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
I also managed to find details of some of their children on the IGI:
William McDonald b/chr. 6th May, 1829 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
James McDonald b/chr 29th September, 1833 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
David McDonald b/chr. 3rd May, 1836 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire. He went on to marry Catherine Bathgate, who died 14th January, 1887 aged 50.
Agnes McDonald b/chr. 13th June, 1841 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
I will continue with my results on the next posting.
Best wishes to you all.
Tom.
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Hi!
I invite you now to take a look at the family of James McDonald and his wife Jane McCubbin. I couldn't see an extracted marriage certificate on the IGI - just a couple of submitted ones after 1991 by members of the LDS. Not to worry too much about that because, I did manage to find some quite relevant information.
James died on 25th November, 1883, aged 94 and his wife, Jane McCubbin had died on 14th June, 1861, aged 64.
Their children:
William McDonald chr. 25th January, 1814 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Samuel McDonald chr. 1st June, 1817 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
James McDonald chr. 25th August, 1819 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Hugh McDonald chr. 20th July, 1826 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Rachel McDonald chr. about 1830 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Margaret McDonald chr. 6th January, 1831 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
John McDonald chr. 17th March, 1833 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Thomas McDonald chr. 28th August, 1835 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
My next posting will take us forward quite a few years and it's quite an important one, because MAYBE, just MAYBE it gives me that link that I'm searching for - the link with the Glasgow area of Lanarkshire, where I believe, (rightly or wrongly),that John Jackson FERNS met up with Elizabeth McDonald, his first wife.
My very best wishes,
Tom.
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Hi!
I wonder if this is going to be one of those all-important links that I've been searching for over some considerable time.
I had a good, hard look at the following information, and when you do the same, will you agree that the old gentleman that we are looking at is the widower of Jane McCubbin? Jane, you will remember is the lady who had died on 14th June, 1861 at the age of 64.
1881 Census.
Dwelling: 62 Mount Street,
Census Place: Barony, Lanarkshire.
Source: FHL Film 0203663 GRO Ref: Vol: 644-9 Enum Dist: 67 Page 1
James McDonald Head Widower Age 90 Retired Ag. Lab. b. Stoneykirk, Wig.
Jane McDonald Daur Unmarr " 52 Laundress b. Stoneykirk, Wig.
Jane Crammond Boarder Unmarr " 16 Butcher's Asst. b. Glasgow, Lanark.
If what I think is correct, then we should pencill in Jane into the list that I gave you of the children of James McDonald and Jane McCubbin.
Now, what I would give for a look at the Death Certificate of the old man shown above!
My very best wishes to all,
Tom.
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Hi,
After a spot of Lunch, I did manage to find that missing Marriage Certificate that I mentioned on Reply #11. Here it is:
Extracted Marriage Certificate for James McDonald and Jane (Jean) McCubbin.
Batch No: M118982.
Married: 19th June, 1813 at
Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
My very best wishes,
Tom.
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Hi!
Although we have discussed the McDonalds born in Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire and will continue to do so on this posting, let's also take a look at Kirkmaiden by Drummore, Wigtownshire which is about 10 miles to the south of Stoneykirk.
There is an extracted marriage certificate:
Batch No: M118904 Dates: 1779-1854 Source Call No: 1068038
James McDonald married Rachel Campbell on the 21st June, 1787 at Kirkmaiden by Drummore, Wigtownshire.
I also have extracted birth/christening records for their children, i.e. Batch No's: C118902 and C118982.
William McDonald chr. 29th March, 1789 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
James McDonald chr. 30th January, 1792 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Samuel McDonald chr. 9th June, 1795 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
David McDonald chr. 3rd August, 1800 at Kirkmaiden by Drummore, Wigtown.
As we can now see, the McDonalds were quite concentrated in the Wigtown Peninsula from Stranraer on the shores of Loch Ryan almost down to the Mull of Galloway.
My very best wishes,
Tom.
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Hi!
In my previous posting I mentioned James McDonald who married Rachel Campbell in 1787 at Kirkmaiden by Drummore in Wigtownshire. In this posting we will be taking a look at another James McDonald, but 62 years later and at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
We find an extracted Marriage Certificate on Batch No: M118985 Dates: 1839-1854 SCN: 1068041.
James McDonald married Elizabeth Buyers on the 13th December, 1849 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Now we move forward in time again to the time of the Census taken in 1881.
Dwelling: Clenoch Parks.
Census Place: Inch, Wigtownshire.
Source: FHL Film 0224060 GRO Ref: Vol: 886 Enum Dist: 10 Page: 4.
James McDonald Head Age 53 Agr. Lab. born at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Elizabeth Buyers Wife Age 47 born at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Mary McDonald Daur Age 20 Dressmaker born at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire
James McDonald Son Age 13 Scholar born Kirkcolm, Wigtown.
Ann McDonald Daur Age 11 Scholar born Kirkcolm, Wigtown.
Mary Steen Grand.Dau Age 3 born at Stranraer, Wigtown.
The distance between Stranraer and Stoneykirk is only about 6 miles and it's about 12 miles from Kirkcolm to Stoneykirk.
My very best wishes,
Tom.
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Hi!,
On Saturday, 5th July, 2008, Beannie was kind enough to supply us with some MI's from the cemetery at Stoneykirk in Wigtownshire. In that posting, she made mention of the connections between the McGill's and the Marshall's and therefore, the McDonald's. I have to admit, I thought that I was going to be in for a pretty torrid time because, surely I was going to become involved once again with the Emerald Isle. I hasten to add, that it's the difficulty in retrieving data from Ireland that was going to give me such a time. I simply love Ireland, and look back on a business trip to Clonmel back in 1988 as a wonderful experience.
I wasn't far wrong though, because I was looking at some records from an 1881 Census, and the information that I managed to extract was quite an eye-opener.
Marianne (or Mary Ann) Hamilton was shown on the Census as a Widow. , who had been born in Ireland. After a bit of work, I found that her husband had been William McGill. I then found an extracted Marriage Certificate on Batch No: M118871 Date: 1855-1875 SCN: 6035516.
William McGill married Marianne Hamilton on the 9th of June, 1865 at Kirkcolm, Wigtownshire.
However, something simply didn't add up on the census, because there were a couple of children there with birth dates of 1857 and 1861 and in their mother's Maiden Name. Let's take a closer look.
Marianne McGill Widow Age 44 born in Ireland Maiden Surname: Hamilton.
Rebecca Hamilton Dau Age 23 born 17th Aug. 1857 at Kirkcolm. Ment. Defect.
William Hamilton Son Age 18 born 13th Sept. 1861 at Kirkcolm. Ment. Defect.
Peter Cunningham McGill Age 15 born 13th Dec. 1866 at Kirkcolm.
Mary Jane McGill Age 7 born 11th Nov. 1872 at Kirkcolm.
So, once again, we are seeing yet another reference to a birthplace in Ireland.
My very best wishes,
Tom.
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Hi beanie
Might be worthwhile starting a new thread for your lookup offer. This one looks to have become a discussion of one person's family
Trish
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Hi beenie/beanie ;D
What a kind offer.
Do you by any chance have any Blains? If so, I will dig out my names as I do not want to put you to the trouble of transcribing any which may not be relevant.
Thanks ;D
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Hi Ruskie,
It's no trouble, there are 5 Blain's and 1 Blainey in the Stoneykirk MI's
In memory of Isabella BLAIN who died at South Two Mark, Stoneykirk on 26th Decr. 1886 aged 35 years. Also John BLAIN who died at South Two Mark 2nd Aug 1901 aged 61 years. Also David BLAIN who died at Caldons Hill 15th April 1919 aged 75 years. Also Janet McGILL wife of the above David BLAIN who died at Kildonnan 5th Oct 1935 aged 84 years.
"Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord"
Erected by James HANNAY in memory of William HANNAY his son, late farmer Caldons Hill who died 22nd October 1875 aged 48 years. Also the above James HANNAY who died at High Caldons 4th October 1878 aged 66 years and Ann JAMIESON his wife who died 23rd August 1878 aged 73 years. Also Margaret HANNAY who died at Challoch, Leswalt 25th June 1902 aged 69 years. Also David HANNAY who died at Low Curghie, Kirkmaiden 21st Oct 1901 aged 77 years. Also Jane BLAIN wife of William HANNAY who died at South Two Mark 26th Oct 1910 aged 60 years. Also Maria SPROTT widow of the above David HANNAY who died at Garthland cottage 3rd Feb 1917 aged 83 years.
This next one is very long, Elizabeth Blain died 7th march 1887 aged 66 years, wife of Robert Wither died at Thornbank, Lochans 13th Novr. 1893 aged 80 years. (let me know if this is one of yours and I will send the full text)
Here lies the body of Jean KILPATRICK spouse to John BLAIN in Kirkmackgill who departed this life Jan 2nd 1777 aged 98 years.
Sacred to the memory of the Rev. Henry BLAIN, late Minister of Stoneykirk, who departed this life on the 23 March 1817 in the 69th year of his age and thirty fifth of his Ministry. Also Adam BLAIN his son, who died 27th Sept. 1807 in the 21st year of his age. And John MAITLAND BLAIN who died 2nd Nov. 1817 aged 28 years. Likewise William BLAIN who died 19th Janry 1818 aged 27 years.
Sacred to the memory of Patrick BLAINEY, who died 15th March 1876 aged 44 years. His wife Sarah Jane Gilmour McCUNE who died 2nd June 1926 aged 83 years. Their son Hugh HYSLOP who died on 9th August 1963 (maybe 1883) aged 24 years.
Father in thy gracious keeping leave we here our loved ones sleeping.
I hope these help.
Kind Regards
Beenie
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Thank you very much Beenie - I will dig out my names and digest all this information. Much appreciated. (The Hannay name rings a bell ;D).
Hey Trish, it might be better if Tom started a new thread - this IS beanies after all ;).
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Hi Ruskie,
Glad you liked the info, let me know if you want the full MI re; Hannay and Blain.
Kind Regards
Beenie
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Thanks again Beenie - shall do ;)
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H Ruskie,
I'm sure that I recall a certain lady writing that she didn't think that anyone had a Copyright on a specific thread! ;D Is this what they mean when they say that it's a lady's privilege to change her mind?
Best wishes,
Tom.
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I'm afraid you've lost me there Tom ???
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Hi Beannie,
Referring to Reply #7 dated Saturday, 5th July. Correct me if I'm wrong, but surely it did commence with the words, "Hi Tom, Here are the MI's in Stoneykirk Cemetery". Naturally enough, I am absolutely delighted with the thoroughness of your work and the friendliness in which you carried it out. I see no complaints from you, so, one has to wonder what all the fuss is about by someone who really ought to know better.
Because of your kindness and your response to another researcher who is looking at Janet McGill, the wife of David Blain, I thought it may be helpful to other researchers if I supplied some further information on the family
An extracted Marriage Certificate exists for John McGill and Jane Paterson. It can be found on Source Info: Batch No: M118985 Dates: 1839-1854 Source Call No: 1068041.
Marriage: 1st June, 1848 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Extracted birth/christening records for their children can be found on Batch No's C118981 & 5.
Elizabeth McGill born 1st April, 1849 at Stoneykir, Wigtownshire.
Janet McGill born 19th November, 1850 at Stoneykirk in Wigtownshire.
Agnes McGill born 30th July, 1852 at Soneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Margaret McGill born 20th February, 1854 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Jane McGill born 16th May, 1856 at Stoneykir, Wigtownshire.
Andrew McGill born 13th February, 1858 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Mary McGill born 4th February, 1860 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Andrew McGill born 7th September, 1861 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
Marion McGill born 13th May, 1863 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire.
James McGill born 30th November, 1864 at Stoneykirk,
Wigtownshire.
One would think that this added information would be of some interest to anyone researching members of this family. Again, very many thanks for your kindness and cooperation.
Tom.
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Hi Russkie,
Reply #25 explains it to you in very simple language. I hope that the added information that I posted will be of added assistance to you. If there is any further detail that you may require, then, as always, I'm always delighted to help.
My very best wishes,
Tom.
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Hi Beanie
Terry couldn't help me, but would appreciate if you could have a look for the following:
If you have the time can you see if you have any Hamiltons in your MIs.
I think most of the family moved away, but I know of three who died in the area.
Mary Ann Hamilton, aged 8 months, died 18 March 1861 (parents William Hamilton and Margaret Elliot)
William Hamilton, aged 9 years, died 15 September 1877 (parents as above)
and William Hamilton married to Mary Elliot, aged 45, died 25 December 1882, run over by loaded cart.
Many thanks
Linda
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Hi Linda,
There are 4 Hamilton's in the Stoneykirk MI's
I think this one is yours
Erected in memory of William HAMILTON who died 15 Sept 1878 aged 9 years. Also William HAMILTON father of the above who died 25 Dec 1882 aged 78 years.
There is also a Joseph Hamilton late Land Steward Drumbreddan died 20/2/1896 aged 74 and his wife Jane Jackson died 8/1/1892 aged 70.
Elizabeth Hamilton died 27/1/1--- aged 89 years, by W. Coffel
Grace McHaffie Milligan sister of Mrs Hugh Milligan died 15/4/1918 aged 78.
If any of these are yours, let me know and will send the full transcription
There are 7 Hamiltons in Kirkmaiden
If you know any names and dates I will check them for you as it is the next Parish to Stoneykirk
Kind Regards
Jeanne
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Hello Beanie,
May I squeeze in a request?
I would be grateful if you could look in the MIs for any reference to KELLY (eg Robert d 1864 at South Two Mark, Martha Kelly d1881 at Dalvaddie), MANN and LOUGHIE.
Best regards, M.
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Hi M,
I've checked through all the MI's for your names and variations, found this one in Stoneykirk;
Erected by Andrew KELLY in memory of Martha WILSON his Grandmother who died at Dalvaddie 5th Feb 1881 aged 73 years.
Kind Regards
Beannie
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Hi Beannie,
Many thanks for finding that.
It is nice to know that there is a place now to visit that is connected with the Irish branch of my Wigtownshire ancestry. Martha WILSON (of Donegal) was the wife of Robert KELLY.
Kindest regards, M.
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Hi M,
I'm sorry I couldn't find any more for you, I also have Kelly's in my line, my 3x Grt Grandfather was Francis Kelly born in Ireland, who died in Stoneykirk in 1847, but there is no MI for him or his wife Jane Kane who died in the 1890's. I will have to keep looking.
Kind Regards
Beenie
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Hi beannie
I wonder if you could look up Patrick and Ann Milroy (Gibson) amoung the Stoneykirk MIs. Their children were born around 1750's. My particular interest is in their daughter Mary who may have married a Samuel Mckeand
Hoping you are still doing this
Lisa
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Hi Lisa,
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I've only just seen your post.
I've checked through the MI's for Stoneykirk, there are ten Milroys, but none matching with yours. I noted that Patrick and Ann had 7 children. Maybe some of the 10 are related, can you give me some more info and I'll see if I can find them.
There are also Milroys and Gibsons in kirkmaiden, do you know if the family moved or stayed in Stoneykirk?
Regards
Beannie
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Thanks for that, Beanie.
I am very short of info on the Milroys. A Mary Milroy married Samuel Mckeand on 17 Oct 1776 at Old Luce. If she was the daughter of Patrick and Ann she would have been 17 years old. Her siblings were John 1761 Jean 1752 James 1753 Patrick 1755 Alexander 1757 and William 1761. These are christening dates. I have not come across any of my family in Kirkmaiden. There was just an outside chance that there was a link with Mary in Stoneykirk.
Regards
Lisa
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Hi Lisa,
I googled Milroy and Stoneykirk and found that Patrick Milroy's parents were Patrick Milroy and Jean McNair. This is the MI from Stoneykirk
This burying place extend 5 graves breadth to the South of this stone. In memory of Patrick MILROY who died 12th Septr 1746 aged 78 years. Also his spouse Jean McNAIR who died in Janr 1753 aged 77 years. Also James MILROY who died 11th March 1778 aged 17 years. Also Alexar MILROY who died 25th of March 1791 aged 31 years, Both sons of John MILROY'S and Margaret McBRYDE'S in Grennan of Kirkmaiden. Also Margaret McBRYDE spouse to John MILROY, tenant of Kirkhill, who died 1st January 1807 aged 84 years. As also the said John MILROY who died 14th April 18-- aged 85 years. Margaret MILROY daughter of Patrick MILROY and Rosina LIGHTBODY in Grennan who died 23rd jany 1821 aged 68 years. Also Rosina LIGHTBODY relict of the above who died 29th Oct 1836 aged 78 years.
Will see what else I can find and let you know.
Regards
Beannie
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Hi Beanie,
Many thanks for the new info and for your time and trouble.
Regards
Lisa
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Hi Beannie,
I see you have mentioned a family called Milligan.
I'm searching for James and Matilda Milligan (Kirkmaiden) and also
Wallace and Margaret (Stoneykirk).
I wonder if you can help.
Many thanks
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Hi Ship,
There are four Milligan's in the MI book for Kirkmaiden and four in Stoneykirk, but none in the names you've given. What time frame are you looking at? They could be relatives. If you give me more info I will have another look.
Kind Regards
Beannie
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Hi Beanny, thanks for your really quick reply.
Grace Milligan (b 1800) was married to John Dorman who was born in Stoneykirk (b1793). So her parents Wallace and Margaret Milligan would be the generation before, sorry no dates as yet.
James (b1811)+ Matilda (b 1814) Milligan were born in Ireland but lived much of their life in Kirkmaiden, their 4 children Edward, Isabella, James and Matilda were born there.
Is Milligan a common name in this area?
Many thanks for your help
Ship
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Hi Ship,
I'm sorry there are no Milligan's that match your names and dates. I have quite a few relatives that I know died in Kirkmaiden, I just can't find where they are buried as there isn't a headstone for them which is such a shame.
Kind Regards
Beannie
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Hi, Thanks so much for looking.
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Hello,
I have just across this page.
I would be most grateful for a look up for McKibbon/McCubbin they came from Stoneykirk and Kirkmaiden.
thank you for your help.
mccubbin
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Hi, McCubbin,
I also have McCubbin's from these places
These are the MI's from Kirkmaiden re; McCubbin
In loving memory of WILLIAM BROWN died 23rd March 1930. His wife AGNES McCUBBIN died 28th Jan 1932. Their daughters, Janet died 29th Oct. 1933, Agnes died 17th May 1960, Helen died 18th Aug. 1960.
Erected by ELIZABETH LOCH in loving memory of her husband DANIEL CAIN, who died at Logan Mill 29th June 1906 aged 89 years. Also the above ELIZABETH LOCH who died at Portlogan 9th Dec 1906 aged 87 years. Also their son ALEXANDER CAIN, who died at Portlogan 28th June 1913 aged 73 years. Also MARY McMILLAN beloved wife ofAlexander Cain Jur. who died at Stranraer 25TH Aug 1936 AGED 64 YEARS. Also ELIZABETH McCUBBIN wife of the above ALEXANDER CAIN, Portlogan who died at Kirklauchline 18th Dec 1937 aged 92 years. Also the above ALEXANDER CAIN Jur., who died at Stranraer 28th Sep 1939 aged 68 years.
Stoneykirk
Erected by the family in memory of JAMES McDONALD their Father who died 25th Novr. 1883 aged 84 years. Also JANE McCUBBIN their Mother who died 14th June 1861 aged 64 years and JANE McDONALD their sister who died 27th Novr. 1875 aged 45 years.
Their is also another one Peter McCubbin and his wife Janet McKie/Burns,
it is quite a long one, Peter is the son of William McCubbin and Ann Chalmers, If you want I will send you the full transcription. they are distant relatives of mine.
Kind Regards
Beannie
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Hello Beannie,
Thank You for the MI for the McCubbin's.
William McCubbin and Ann Chalmers
are not related to me, so thank you anyway.
I will look into the other names.
My McKibbon/McCubbin must of not been able to afford a gravestone when they died.
Well Beannie
Thank you for your help.
PS I know I have McCubbin buried in Glasserton and Whithorn, the early McCubbin's came from Kirkmaiden and Stoneykirk.
Thank You
Karen
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Hi Beannie,
Happy New Year to you!
I would like if I may, revisit a look-up you kindly did for me back in August '08. My request comes on the back of subsequent research.
You found a MI at Stoneykirk "Erected by Andrew KELLY in memory of Martha WILSON his Grandmother who died at Dalvaddie 5th Feb 1881 aged 73 years." Was there any further inscription about Andrew himself?
I am sure you would have mentioned it if there had been, but I thought I would just check. I am trying to work out if he was Martha's son Andrew (who moved away from the area) or a grandson.
Also is there any record of Janet LOUGHRIE who died in 1858 and according to her death registration was buried at Stoneykirk? I have found several variations of the surname spelling, including LOUGHERY and LOCHARY which appeared on her Death registration
Kind Regards, M.
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hi beannie
would love it if you could look up the name of allison in this area i know there was a lot of them and that they moved about they where mainly from stranrear and that area but might hit it lcky
thanks again for your time
regards
missterri
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Hi M,
Happy New year to you too!
I'm sorry there are no other MI's regarding Andrew Kelly or Janet Lochary, I've tried all variations of the name Lochery
Regards
Beannie
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Hi Missteri,
I'm sorry there are no Allison's in any of the MI books.
regards
Beannie
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Hi Beannie,
Many thanks for checking that Kelly MI.
I'm sorry I had a "senior moment" with the other name!
I meant to say Janet or Jean MANN; her maiden name was Loughrie. So could you check that name please. There were several Manns at Stoneykirk in the mid 1800s so there could be could be others.
Thank you, M.
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Hi M,
I'm sorry there are no Mann's in any of the books I have.
Regards
Beannie
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Hello Macharskin
I am always interested when the name Mann pops up. This is, unfortunately, of no help to you but you may find it curious! ::)
My grandmother's birth certificate states Helen or Ellen Mann Williamson (illegitimate) born 1883 to Jane Williamson (domestic servant) of Back Ramparts, Stranraer. The family lived in Stoneykirk before the 1881 census. We shall never know the reason for this middle name I am sure.
Thought provoking though, isn't it?
Judy
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Hello Judy,
As you can see from my recent posts, the Mann family are my current big project!
I have 28 folks by that name from the area (connected to my ancestor Agnes), and the list is growing. I live in hopes that one of them will guide me to the area in Londonderry my ancestor lived between 1838 and 1850 and pre 1800.
I may stumble upon a connection with your grandmother along the way.
Regards, M.
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Hi M
Thanks for your reply. My grandmother was born 1883 in Back Ramparts, Stranraer. Her mother Jane Williamson was a domestic servant on the 1881 census but unemployed. So the question still remains why did my grandmother have the name Mann as a middle name on her birth certificate? The name Mary also didn't appear in Jane's family at all! Her parents though were married according to the Catholic Church Rites.
Good luck with your research. I see you have posted valuable information about a new Irish site within Family Search. Well done.
J
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Hello Beanie, may I ask for a lookup for HEWITT.
thanks,
Lindsay
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Hi Linsay,
This is the only Hewett, I found it in Stoneykirk, hope it's yours.
Erected by Hugh HANNAY tenant in Auchoncloy in memory of Margaret McQuater his spouse who died 15th of Oct. 1797 aged 38 years. The above mentioned Hugh HANNAY died 6th May 1849 aged 90 years. His relict Marion KERR died 12th July 1849 aged 90 years. Also David their son who died 18th of Novr. 1807 aged 17 years. and William who died 31st Jany 1824 aged 26 years. Also Hugh HANNAY son of the above who died 15th March 1882 aged 84 years. Also Sarah HEWETT wife of the above Hugh HANNAY who died at Auchencloy 24th March 1898 aged 85 years. Also daughter-in-law of the above Annie DRYNAN who died at Auchencloy 12th Decr 1909 aged 56. Also Hugh HANNAY husband of the above who died at Caldons Hill 30th January 1923 aged 68 years. And Annie daughter of the above Hugh and Annie HANNAY and beloved wife of Robert McDOWELL who died at Newtonards and was interred Millisle Cemetery 8th Nov 1935 aged 42 years.
Kind regards
Beannie
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Yes, thank you Beannie, she is. Sarah Hewitt was my 4G Aunt. Appreciate you taking the time, I have also quite a bit on her husband Hugh's family but some of this is new, so ;D
regards,
Lindsay
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Hi Lindsay,
I'm glad I could help, it's always good to find little snippets of new information.
Kind Regards
Beannie
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Hi Beannie,
Would you be so kind as to see if there are any McTIER/TEAR/TEIR's in your index.
Many thanks
Jan
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Hi Jan,
I found this in Kirkmadrine
John MCWHINNIE, late Smith in Clachanmore, departed this life 12th September 1791 aged 71 years. Also Rosina McTIER, spouse of John McWHINNIE died 29th December 1790 aged 77 years. John son of William McWHINNIE and Margaret NEIL aged 8 months.
Kirkmaiden
Erected by Elizabeth GIBSON in loving memory of her brother William who died at Longrigg 16th January 1926, advanced in years. Also the above Elizabeth GIBSON beloved wife of John McTEAR, who died at Longrigg 10th Aug 1938 aged 87 years. Her daughter Helen Jane died 23rd Feb 1963 aged 82 years. Her daughter Flora McTEAR who died at Stranraer 17th Dec 1968 aged 75 years. Also Johnina McTEAR died at Park Lane, Stranraer 6th Nov. 1986 aged 85 years.
These are the only two I found, I have on my tree a Susan McTear born 1830 Ireland, who married in 1854 James McClure born 1835 Kirkmaiden.
Kind Regards
Beannie
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Many thanks Beannie.
You have provided me with another lead.
Thanks again
Jan
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Hello Beannie
Are there be any McClintons or Jolly entries in your Stoneykirk M.I.s?
Thanks very much for looking.
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Hi Matriarch,
There are 2 McClinton's
(top broken off-possibly a cross) In loving memory of James McCLINTON, late of South African Constabulary, who died at Cottage hospital, Castle Douglas, 21st Oct 1912 aged 37 years.
Erected by John McCLINTON in memory of his wife Janet HASTIE who died at Ringuinea 5th April 1912 aged 61 years. His daughter Janet died at Ringuinea 8th April 1892 aged 11 years. His daughter Sarah died at Winnipeg Canada 15th Jan 1914 aged 24 years. His daughter Janet who died at Uroigh, Castle Douglas 26th May 1920 aged 24 years. Also the above John McCLINTON who died at Barr, Sanguhar 2nd Aug 1928 aged 75 years.
These are the 4 Jolly's
Erected in memory of John JOLLY farmer Cairngarroch who died 28th Sept 1887 aged 75 years. Also Elizabeth McWHIRTER his wife who died 18th March 1893 aged 79 years. Also their grandson Hugh SMELLIE JOLLY who died 24th Jany 1899 aged 4 months
Erected by the family in loving memory of their father Alexander SPENCE Farmer Awhirk, Ardwell, who died 29th June 1888 aged 44 years. Also their mother Isabella JOLLY, who died 11th March 1890 aged 44 years. Also their brother Alexander SPENCE, who died 31st October 1877 aged 7 months
Erected by John HENDERSON in memory of Janet McCLINTON his beloved daughter who died 6th Feby 1886 aged 4 years and 11 months. Also the above John HENDERSON who died at Boreland 24th May 1915 aged 65 years. Also his wife Martha HENDERSON who died at Kirkcolm 24th Sep 1930 aged 82 years. Also their son Joseph who died at Glasgow 1 april 1947 aged 75 years. Also their son John who died at Sandhead 8th Jan 1951 aged 74 years. Also Martha JOLLY his mother-in-law who died 12th Octr 1883 aged 78 years.
Erected by Jessie JOLLY in memory of her husband Alexander SHAW Farmer who died at Low Ardwell on 4th Dec 1917 aged 65 years. Also the above Jessie JOLLY who died at Stranraer on 1st oct 1933 aged 77 years.
I hope this are yours.
Kind Regards
Beannie
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Hello Beannie
Wonderful!
Yes, some definitely and I'll look into the others to see where or if they fit in.
Thanks very much. regards, Helen
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Hi Helen,
So glad some of them were yours.
Kind Regards
Beannie
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Hi Beanie,
I just found this page and this post regarding peter mccubbin and janet mckie they are relatives of my step-father and i have been doing a family tree for him and i have seen some really helpful information so iwas was wondering whether you could send the transcript to me too please, i would really appreciate it.
Many Thanks
Gemma ;)
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Hi Gemma,
Stoneykirk Churchyard,
Sacred to the memory of Janet McKIE beloved wife of Peter McCUBBIN High Glenstockadale Leswalt who passed away 1st March 1934 aged 69 years and the above Peter McCUBBIN who passed away at Calgarry 22 Dec 1941 in his 80th year. Also Peter their second son and beloved husband of Margaret McCUTCHEON who passed away at Garlieston 5 August 1964 in his 76th year. Also their daughter Agnes Jane beloved wife of the late Alex CAMERON who passed away at Newton Stewart 9 May 1978, cremated at Ayr. Also their infant daughter Agnes Jane who passed away Aug 1887 interred in Inch old churchyard.
"Rock of ages cleft to me."
I have more info on the McCubbin side as they are distant relatives of mine, let me know if I can help with anything and I will try my best.
Kind Regards
Jeanne
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Hi there
Thank you for this, there is something you could help me with, i need a Look up on a Jeanie Marshall B: 15/08/1915 M: 27/11/1936 D: July 1995who married a Thomas Peter McCubbin B: 28/08/1911 M:27/11/1936 D:27/11/1990
i wanted to know where their buried if possible
Thanks
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Dear Beanie
If you could manage it I would be grateful for a lookup at Kirkmaiden.
The names are Anthony McGuffoc and Agnes Campbell who had a Sara McGuffoc born 1792, she was illegitimate. Also a Wm McCulloch who had a daughter Sara.
Many thanks
Rapunzel
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Hi Rapunzel,
I'm sorry it's taken me so lonf to reply, I've been trying to do a little research.
I'm sorry there isn't anythinf for Anthony McGuffog or Agnes Campbell in my MI book.
The is a death however in the OPR's for Kirkmaiden for Anthony McGuffog died Barncorkie 11 Sep 1827. Also Agnes Campbell died 20 May 1832. I think Anthony and Agnes must have married as they had other children.
William Christened 3 May 1773
Agnes Christened 7 March 1781
I think married Robert Crawford on 1841 census for Stoneykirk
MI Kirkmaiden
Erected by Agnes McGUFFOG in memory of her husband Robert CRAWFORD who died 8th March 1845 aged 64 years. Also the said Agnes McGUFFOG who died at Low Ardwell 26th June 1856 aged 73 years. Also her daughter Elizabeth who died at Low Ardwell 17th May 1879 aged 49 years.
John Christened 15 Sept 1784
jean 20 May 1787
Elizabeth 9 March 1790
Sarah 21 March 1792
Grizal 3 July 1798
There is a Sarah McGuffog married to John McCulloch on the 1841 census for Kirkmaiden. Sarah is 45 and John 50 with children Helen 14, Elizabeth 10, John 12, Peter 7 and Grace 6.
I have info including MI for Sarah mcCulloch and John Gibson if you want that.
Hope this helps
Kind Regards
Beannie
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Hi Beannie,
Thanks very much for the info which helps a lot. If you have anything else on the John Gibson and Sarah McCulloch marriage and off spring, that would be great - I feel I am getting closer to my roots but need to cross check more before I shout Eureka!!
Many thanks for the good work so far,
Rapunzel
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Hi Rapunzel,
Here is the MI I think for John Gibson and Sarah McCulloch
Erected by the family in loving memory of their father John GIBSON who died at Cairn in this parish 17th Octr 1873, aged 61 years. Also their mother Sarah McCULLOCH who died at Cardryne 31st July 1899 aged 84 years. Also Peter GIBSON, grandson of Alexander GIBSON who died at Low Drummore 8th Sept 1921 aged 27 years. Also Hellen REYNOLD beloved wife of Alexander GIBSON who died at Low Drummore 13th January 1923 aged 75 years. Also Janet, daughter of Alexander GIBSON who died 6th Dec 1926 aged 47 years. Also the above Alexander GIBSON who died 20th July 1933 aged 83 years.
"I am the resurrection and the life" John 11.25. "O Death, where is thy sting, O grave where is thy victory". 1st Corinthians 15.55'
J. STEVEN (Sculptor)
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Hi Beannie,
Thanks for the MI info. This Gibson-McCulloch MI is for my great grandparents and seems to be the last definite connection to the McCulloch branch. If you ever come across an MI for an Anthony McGuffoc or Agnes Campbell, I would be delighted if you let me know,
Regards
Rapunzel
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hi folks, a happy new year. :)
I'm very hopeful that your offer still stands and that you may have some McMILLANs & QUIRKs amongst your collection of MIs for Kirkmaiden. By any chance do the parents John & Agnes McMillan and maybe brother & wife Mathew QUIRK & Mary MAXWELL show up in your records? It's very early i know and if they did have stones - if indeed they were still living there when they died - they may well be worn away by now, but i live in hope. I know I'm scraping away in the dark here, but maybe by picking away at it I'll finally come on something that'll give me a breakthrough
I don't know if the Mathew QUIRK living in Kirkmaiden, was Agnes's brother or not, as they don't appear in the iGI. I'm just hoping i might find clues that may help confirm what little i have
I'm pretty certain i've tracked my McMillans back to this couple & their kids:
John McMILLAN & Agnes QUIRK IGI: c118902
HUGH McMILLAN chr.18 NOV 1778 Kirkmaiden By Drummore, WIG
MARTHA McMILLAN b.27th; chr.30 OCT 1780 " "
male McMILLAN b.26th; chr.31 JUL 1782 " "
JAMES McMILLAN chr.11 AUG 1783 " "
AGNES McMILLAN b.5th; chr.9 JAN 1786 " "
ANTHONY McMILLAN b.7th; chr.10 JUL 1788 " "
WILLIAM McMILLAN b.15th chr.18 NOV 1790 " "
I think Hugh is mine and settled as a mariner in Port William judging by his 1841 & 1851 censuses. however, if you were to spot a Hugh McMillan dead in his parents grave, it would suggest I'd found the wrong Hugh. I live in hope ;)
I'm hoping that these may be my Agnes's family, perhaps her brother,
Mathew QUIRK & Mary MAXWELL
MARGARET QUIRK - chr.28 MAR 1780 Stoneykirk, Wigtown, Scotland
MARIA ANN QUIRK - chr.2 AUG 1781 Kirkmaiden By Drummore, WIG
MARGRAT QUIRK - chr.1 AUG 1782 " "
WILLIAM QUIRK - chr.22 JUL 1783 " "
PETER QUIRK - chr.5 AUG 1784 " "
MATTHEW QUIRK - chr.22 APR 1786 " "
WILLIAM QUIRK - chr.20 APR 1788 " "
JOHN QUIRK - chr.20 APR 1788 " "
ALEXANDER GORDON QUIRK - chr.10 JUN 1790 " "
MATHEW QUIRK - chr.12 JUL 1791 " "
I found these Kirkmaiden deaths but no other info. but hopefully it will help, perhaps if there was an age as well.
Quirk William Clanard 23 Oct 1784, a child
Quirk Matthw Clanord 25 May 1786
Quirk Mary Ann Clanard 29 Feb 1789
1841 census Mochrum WIG Vol.892 ED2 pg.20 - transcr.
Addr.: Port William Village, Mochram WIG
Hugh McMILLAN 60yrs; b.c.1781 WIG Occ: Mariner
Agnes McMILLAN 25yrs; b.c.1816 WIG
Margt McMILLAN 20yrs; b.c.1821 WIG
Janet McMILLAN 15yrs; b.c.1826 WIG
with Walker family
1851 Old Luce WIG; 894 ED:2 p.6 sch.18
Address: Staer Haven Inn, Old Luce, Wigtownshire
Hugh McMILLAN, 70 b.c.1781 Kirkmaiden, WIG; Visitor, Occ. Mariner
with Innkeepers family &c
Thank you for your time and trouble :)
le durachd
Fionnghal
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Hi Fionnghal
I'm sorry there are no MI's for John McMillan and Agnes Quirk. I haven't any info on where or when they were born.Their son William married my 7x Greatgrandmothers sister Isabella Milwain and they had 4 children, William died in 1818, this his his MI from Kirkmaiden Kirkyard
Erected by Isabella MILWAIN in memory of her husband William McMILLAN late Smith at Drummore who died 10th October 1818 in the 28th year of his age. The above Isabella MILWAIN died 6th Jany. 1865 aged 72 years.
There are a few Mi's for their children if you would like these also let me know.
I think this is William's brother James
Erected by John, James, Anthony and Andrew McMILLAN in memory of James McMILLAN their father, who died at High Drummore 3rd of March 1829 aged 45 years. The above James McMILLAN, Draper, died in Manchester 30th Sept 1843 aged 33 years. Andrew McMILLAN, Draper died in Liverpool on 3rd September 1848 aged 33 years. Isabella McKITTRICK their mother died at High Drummore 5th May 1866 aged 77 years. Also Anna McMILLAN wife of W.S. MUIR died at Damnaglaur 30th Jany. 1899 aged 72 years.
There are no Mi's for any Quirk in either Kirkmaiden or Stonekirk.
I haven't done much on the McMillan's, so you've just given me a push, will have to find out more now.
I'm sorry I can't help with what you needed, let me know if there's anything I can help you with.
Kind Regards
Beenie
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hi Beannie
Nice to hear from you. I'm not 100% sure that they are the parents of my Hugh McMillan, though it does seem fairly possible. Do you have any idea what John McMillan's occupation was?
Unfortunately, my Hugh & Jannet didn't give any of their kids a Quirk or Whirk middle name which would have been very handy.
I suppose there are no MI's for the Whirk or Quhirk spelling? or Mc/MacQuirk or Mc/MacWhirk? Even without the Quirk/Whirk variation, i've found an incredible amount of variety for such a wee name :) I think must have gone through a spell of being interchangeable - mainly because folk were illiterate.
When i manage to confirm whether or not our Hugh is their son, I'll come back to you about the other MI's you have if you don't mind :). We could exchange info then. And when this snow releases me from the house, I'll order up the Kirkmaiden film and have a close look at that. Although the LDS appear to have transcribed much of it, i always like to have my own look at it. it won't be the first time i've found missed information so you never know :)
That Mathew Quirk i spotted that's the right generation to be Agnes Quirk's brother; I noticed it was a popular name on the Isle of Mann too. Not surprising considering their proximity. But no Agnes appearing there unfortunately.
Thanks for the info. i'll keep you posted if i come on anything else
le durachd
Fionnghal
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Hello from Australia,
I am not sure if I have gone about this the right way but I am trying to find any trace of the parents of Gilbert MILES.
Gilbert MILES was Christened on 13 OCT 1811, at Kirkmaiden By Drummore, Wigtown, Scotland. His parents were recorded in the Parish register as WILLIAM MILES and GIRSAL JENKIN (Married name MILES).
I am remember finding William listed in the 1841 in a Workhouse nearby (possibly from the census) and I think there was a mention of his wife having died in Kirkmaiden around the same time but I can't locate the papers or where I found this reference. Very frustrating. I am hoping someone may have a list of names for the area that may mention their names, or MILES family in general?
Any help would be much appreciated
STURDY
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Hi STURDY,
I have found William and Grace on the 1841 census for Kirkmaiden
3 Low Kildonnan
William Miles 72 Agricultural labourer born Ireland
Grace Miles 74 born Wigtownshire
Elizabeth Miles 40
Peter Miles 11
John Miles 11
from the OPR deaths for Kirkmaiden
William Miles Kildonnan 13 January 1850
James Miles High Drummore 23 Nov 1799
no name Miles Drummore 9 January 1847
The only MI I can find is this one for Margaret Miles, William and Grace's daughter I think;
Erected by Grace NEILSON in memory of Margaret MILES her mother who died 4th Feby. 1878 aged 79 years. Grace NEILSON who died at Drummore 18th Decr. 1901 aged 78 years.
There are several Miles on the 1851 census
http://www.dgcommunity.net/historicalindexes/census.aspx
I hope this helps, do you have info on all their children, I will help if I can
Kind Regards
Beenie
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Many thanks Beanie for the reply and offer of assistance.
I am descended from Gilbert MILES who was christened the son of William and Girsal (aka Grace) MILES (nee JENKIN) at Kirkmaiden by Drummore back on the 13th Oct, 1811. Gilbert went on to marry in Gorbals, Glasgow and died around 1851? His wife and children then came out to Australia.
The name MILES does not seem to be common in Wigtownshire (Drummore?). I am confident his parents were the ones (Grace 74 & William 72) listed in the 1841 census for Kirkmaiden. In 1851 William is listed as 88 and living with his son's family on Stoneykirk Rd (within Stranraer). His son William had married a Janet WILSON back in 1841. I tend to think this is the William MILES listed in the OPR deaths you mentioned at Kildonnan in 1850. The old man must have been living there or moved in to help with the surviving wife and children?
I am very interested to know what had to 88 year-old William after 1851 and what became of his wife Girsal (Grace) MILES between her appearance on the 1841 census and her non-appearance on the 1851 census?
The Margaret you mentioned from the MI's what cemetery was she buried at?, I am confident this would be a sister of my Gilbert MILES.
If you have anything on the other siblings Elizabeth born 1797, Alexander born 1809, William born 1806, John born 1804, James born 1802 it would be very much appreciated.
Again many thanks, regards Sturdy
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hi Beannie, on the question of Agnes Quirk/ McWhirk &c, John McMillan's wife, looking at various ways the name could have evolved, i suspect the name McHarg may well be the same name in another guise. I've found a lot of convolutions for that name :-\
Also, i've found another possible sibling for my Hugh / your William McMillan. It is only a possibility mind. I haven't seen the OPR film yet and I'd want to before making a more positive decision; this is merely an entry that has been listed by the LDS but i think it has possibilities and worth bearing in mind till such times as it can be proven one way or another.
Knowing how easily the Mc got knocked off names back then...
John Millar chr 31 March 1777 Kirkmaiden by Drummore WIG
son of John Millar & Agnes Quirk
I've found no other kids for them and they fit in at the beginning of the queue of subsequent births in our family quite neatly. Still haven't found a marriage for them which is no help at all. Just a thought
le durachd
Fionnghal
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Dear Beanie and others,
I have some McKibbons (McKibbons, McCubbin, McGibbon etc), in particular the family of John McKibband and Margrat Gibson in the mid 18th century (these two were married in 1755).
I've looked through the previous posts here and see various later McCubbins - am assuming there are no older MIs with any of these spellings (and very few people had MIs in the 18th century) but am posting just in case. They moved between Stoneykirk, Inch and Kirkmaiden.
Any Gibsons also?
Jenny
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Hi Jenny
I've checked through all 3 MI's and there are no Mc Kibbon, McGibbans, although there are a couple of McCubbin but of later dates. There are 36 MI's of Gibsons in all three cemeteries. If you can give me names and dates I will gladly check through them for you.
Regards
beannie
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Thanks Beanie. The Gibson I've found so far is Margrat (who married John McKibband in 1755), probably born around 1730. Possible names of her parents or other family members might be Susanna or Grisal, Alexander, Mary, John, based only on the names of her children.
All best,
Jenny
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Hi Beannie,
I'm hoping to find info on an Alexander McGuffie b abt 1821 Kirkmaiden and died 21 Dec 1891 Kirkmaiden, Married Mary McCulloch b abt 1821 in Kirkmaiden in 1845.
i think that they had 4 children James 1848, Alexander 1850, John 1854 and William 1859.
It would be great to find if any of the above appear on any graveyard inscriptions in Kirkmaiden.
many thanks for you help
Ivylea
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Hi Ivylea,
Here are the 3 McGuffies in the MI book. All the others are McGuffog
No Alexander and Mary McCulloch, but these maybe their children.
(Rustic scroll)
In memory of William McC. McGUFFIE who died 29th Jan. 1939 aged 79 years, beloved husband of Jane MARTIN. Their son Peter Martin who died in infancy. Also the above Jane MARTIN who died 20th Nov. 1941 aged 76 years.
(Ornamental cross on three step base) "Thy will be done".
Erected by the family in loving memory of their brother Robert McGUFFIE, son of James McGUFFIE, who died at Drummore 6th March 1906 aged 22 years. Elizabeth TORRANCE, wife of James McGUFFIE, who died 27th July 1920 aged 70 years. The above James McGUFFIE died 21 Jan. 1933 in his 87th year.
J. STEVEN (Sculptor)
(Right side) Also their youngest sister Bessie died 19th Nov. 1932 aged 43 years. Interred in Edinburgh.
(Left side) Also their sister Janet died 23rd Oct. 1956 aged 82 years.
The next one is very long, re; McMurtrie, but at the bottom it says
Their daughter Maggie Thomasina McCracken beloved wife of Alexr. McGUFFIE died in Edinburgh 29th Sep. 1968 aged 70 years. The above Alexander McGUFFIE died in Drummore 29th Sep aged 81.
The above two are in my tree, so if there is anything I may be able to help you with please let me know.
Kind Regards
beannie
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Hi Beannie,
Many thanks for your prompt response. I'll have a look through the information that you have provided, compare it to the info I have on my tree and get back to you if I have any more questions :)
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Beannie,
The info that you have provided fits in with the info I have already.
William McGuffie , husband of Jane Martin (I didn’t have her maiden name before) I believe is one son of Alexander McGuffie and Mary McCulloch. (Do you think that Peter would have been named Martin as he was born and died before William and Jane were married). I'll start to look for their marriage info.
James McGuffie, husband of Elizabeth Torrance is another son of Alexander McGuffie and Mary McCulloch.
I already have their children to be
Janet (b 1874)
Margaret (b1877)
William (b1879)
David (b 1881)
Robert (b 1884)
Alexander (b1886)
John (b 1888)
Elizabeth (b 1889)
The info that you provided matched the above for Robert, Janet, Bessie and Alexander.
You mention the latter being on your tree, do you have him listed as a son of James and Elizabeth or is he a different Alexander to the one in my tree.
thanks :)
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Hi Ivylea,
I have James, who married by 2xGreatGrandmothers cousin, Grace Gowan McCracken in 1908, son of James and Elizabeth Torrance. The McGuffies' are only by marriage. I have James McGuffie, husband of Elizabeth Torrance death in 1933, if you want it I will send it via PM.
I hope this helps.
I think there was a McGuffie who was the Harbour Master at Grummore before my Great Grandfather David Chalmers.
Kind Regards
beannie
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Hello,
My relatives are listed below, Joseph and Jane Hamilton. Is it possible to get copies of this information? If so, who do I contact?
Thank you so very much. (*)
Hi Linda,
There are 4 Hamilton's in the Stoneykirk MI's
I think this one is yours
Erected in memory of William HAMILTON who died 15 Sept 1878 aged 9 years. Also William HAMILTON father of the above who died 25 Dec 1882 aged 78 years.
There is also a Joseph Hamilton late Land Steward Drumbreddan died 20/2/1896 aged 74 and his wife Jane Jackson died 8/1/1892 aged 70.
Elizabeth Hamilton died 27/1/1--- aged 89 years, by W. Coffel
Grace McHaffie Milligan sister of Mrs Hugh Milligan died 15/4/1918 aged 78.
If any of these are yours, let me know and will send the full transcription
There are 7 Hamiltons in Kirkmaiden
If you know any names and dates I will check them for you as it is the next Parish to Stoneykirk
Kind Regards
Jeanne
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Hi Rebecca,
This is the full inscription on the stone
Erected by Joseph HAMILTON in memory of Jane JACKSON his beloved wife who fell asleep in Jesus at Drumbreddan 8th January 1892 aged 70 years. Also the above Joseph HAMILTON, late Land Steward, Drumbreddan, Stoneykirk who died 20th Febry 1896 aged 74 years.
Much we loved thee much we mourn our joys with thee on earth are o'er why should we in anguish weep thou art not lost but gone before
I hope this is ok
Kind regards
beannie
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Thank you beannie!
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Hi Rebecca,
You are welcome, if there's anything else I can help you with please let me know
Kind Regards
beannie
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Hello Beannie,
I am researching the following ancestors and wonder if their surnames show up in your Stoneykirk MI's?
Patrick McKELVIE (1728- )
Janet STEVENSON McKELVIE (1728- )
Their children were: William (1751- ), John (1753- ), Katherine (1756- ), Patrick (1766- ), Thomas (1769- ) who moved to America, and Janet (1773- ).
Thanks for any information!
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Hi
This is the only McKelvie in Stoneykirk
In memeory of Jane STEVENSON spouse to Patrick McKELVIE in Port-o-Spittal who departed this life April the 1st 1795 aged 66 years. And also Rachel McMECKAN spouse to Andr McKELVIE in Kildonnan who died April the 24th 1797 aged 30 years. And also John McKELVIE their son.
(reverse side )
In memory of Patrick McKELVIE in Port-o-Spittal and his son Andr. This burying ground extends to ---------in breadth----------
This is the only one in Kirkmadrine
1880 (at top)
Erected in memory of John McKELVIE who died at Drumdoch 26th April 1862 aged 89 years. Also Margaret BARKLEY his wife who died at Borland 14th April 1863 aged 93 years.
Ther is only one in Kirkmaiden
(Wreath)
John and James McKELVIE.
To the memory of their mother Sarah NIBLOCK who died at Stranraer August 23rd 1869 aged 67 years, spouse to Andrew McKELVIE, Land Steward, Ballywillwill.
"Angels hover o'er me, singing! Onward - nearer come they now; Farewell daughter! cease thy weeping; Kiss once more my burning brow,"
R WOOD (Sculptor)
I thought I'd add these as they may be related.
Kind Regards
beannie
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Beannie,
Thanks so much for the lookup! That is my Patrick McKELVIE & Jane STEVENSON. I will check the other names too.
Thanks for your help!
Randy
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Hi Beanie
I'm new to this site so was very interested to see your MI lookup for McKelvie in Kirkmaiden. Andrew McKelvie and Sarah Niblock are my great great grandparents and I have been searching for some 30 years to find where they would have lived in County Down for the years between 1830 and 1850, and now I have found out thanks to your entry showing Ballywillwill.
I have suspected through other research but not yet been able to confirm that John McKelvie and Margaret Barkley also listed by you are Andrew's parents as I know they married in 1800 but have not found any children born to them until 1818 but Andrew would have been born between those years.
Randy's McKelvie's may be a connection to mine so would be interested to know if there is one. My McKelvie's were in Stoneykirk, Kirkcolm then went to County Down, Andrew died there, family moved back to Stoneykirk with some children by that time adults moving to Greenock Renfrewshire and then on to Dundee, but probably all originally came from Ireland.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks for solving a great mystery - another brick wall broken down!
maggie28
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Hi
I am hoping you are still doing lookups.
I am looking for the Galloway Family, They lived in the Kirkmaiden, Stoneykirk and Inch area. Also A Alexander Maxwell and his daughter Helen
They you so much
Lynn
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Hi Lynn,
There are 4 Mi's in Stoneykirk for Maxwell
Erected by the family of Hamilton MAXWELL their father late shoemaker Glen cottage Awkirk who died 2nd May 1899 aged 77 years
(cross on top)
In memory of David MAXWELL who died at Blair march 30th 1893 aged 1 year and 8 months.
Erected by John LEES in memory of Robert LEES his father who died 10th November 1882 aged 73 years. Also Janet MAXWELL his mother who died 12th October 1891 aged 78 years.
This last one is very long and is dedicated to the Maitlands of Freugh
There are 5 Mi's in Kirkmaiden, only one mentions an Alexander
Erected by Alexander MAXWELL in memory of his beloved wife Agnes Jane CRAWFORD who died at Drummore 5th Novr. 1893 aged 28 years.
Also his Father Thomas MAXWELL who died at Drummore 28th jany. 1892 aged 88 years. Also his mother Sarah BROWN who died 16th Jany. 1870 aged 53 years.
There are 8 Mi's in Kirkmaiden for Galloway and 1 in Stoneykirk, it would help if you gave me some names and dates, I can do them all if you want, it just saves time if not.
Kind Regards
beannie
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Thank You Beannie,
They you so much for the offer I will post some of the Galloway's as I have a lot of names. It starts with
Robert born 1720 who married Hellen Maxwell born 1720 There Children
Alexander 1744
Janet 1747
John 1752
Robert 1747
Alexander 1744 married Margaret McChlery 1750 There children My Line
Ann 1770
Jean 1771
Robert 1773
William 1776
Alexander 1778
Mary 1780
John 1783
David 1789
Stewart bet 1780-1785
I also have a lot born in the 1800's
They you so much again for your help
Lynn
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Hi Lynn
These are all the MI's in Kirkmaiden
In loving memory of William McGAW who died at Holmlea Drummore 8th Aptil 1931 aged 84 years. Also his wife Janet GALLOWAY, who died at West Kirby Cheshire 2nd March 1886 aged 37 years. Also their children William & William David who died in infancy. Also their son David died 11th Sep. 1983 aged 80 years. beloved husband of Robina McCLINTON died 27th July 1985 aged 87 years.
In memory of Janet COWDEN wife of Alexander GALLOWAY who died 13th November 1869 aged 57 years. Also their children Alexander who died 7th June 1870 aged 27 years at Brisbane Australia, John weho died 12th October 1870 aged 24 years, Janet GALLOWAY died at West Kirby Cheshire 2nd March 1886 aged 37 years. Also the above Alexander GALLOWAY who died 28th Novr. 1885 aged 75 years. Also Mary GALLOWAY who died at Marple Cheshire 25th June 1890 aged 52 years. Also robert GALLOWAY of Pool House, Alsager, Stoke-on-Trent born 6th June 1840 died 6th Dec. 1925. Alexander Grodon GALLOWAY born 1st Oct. 1921 died at Tillicoultry 31 Dec. 1953.
In loving memory of Robert GALLOWAY D.D.S. born 8th Dec 1879, died at Falkirk 20th Feb. 1959 and his wife Margaret HUNTER born 21st Feb. 1886, died at Edinburgh 7th Sept. 1961.
(cross on top) Sacred to the memory of our parents James GALLOWAY who died at East Muntlock 30th Nov. 1896. Also Helen McCULLOCH his wife who died 12th Dec 1896, both aged 70 years. Also thier daughter Maggie who died at Stranraer 11th Oct 1897 aged 43 years. Also their son William who died at East Muntlock 8th April 1901 aged 42 years. Also their daughter Jane who died at Challochmun 6th Jan 1912.
J. STEVEN (Sculptor)
(cross on 3 step base) Erected by friends and former pupils to the memory of John LAIRD J.P., F.E.I.S., for 51 yeras schoolmaster at Port Logan died 22nd December 1922 aged 58 years. (right side) Their son Douglas died 15th Jan. 1959 aged 59 years. His wife Margaret GALLOWAY died 27th Dec 1954 aged 52 years.
In Loving memory of Elizabeth McCULLOCH who died in the Lord, Portlogan 22 Sept 1893 aged 97 years. "God is love. She strusted in the living word, his love dispelled her fear; Her soul is present with the Lord though absent from us here." D.C. In loving memory of WM. GALLOWAY who died ------- ------aged (81) years. "God is ---ight"
Erected by Agnes GALLOWAY in memory of Robert McGAW her husband who died at High Drummore 26th April 1888 aged 59 years. The above Agnes GALLOWAY his wife died at Damnaglaur 2nd Jany. 1901 aged 72 years. Also their youngest son William McGAW died at Damnaglaur 26th Jan 1925 aged 52 years. Their eldest daughter Jane T McGAW died 31st Jan 1926 aged 66 years. Their third son David McGAW died 17th Sept 1926 aged 56 years. Their second daughter Elizabeth McGAW died 21st June 1935 aged 71 years. Their second son Robert McGAW died 3rd April 1936 aged 74 years. Interred in new cemetery.
P. COLLINS (Sculptor)
Erected by Margaret HUTTON in loving memory of her husband James GALLOWAY who died 22nd June 1920 aged 59 years. Also their son Adam who died 28th oct. 1933 aged 24 years. Also their son John who died 15th Aug 1937 aged 32 years. Also their son James who died 27th Feb 1941 aged 42 years. Also the above Margaret HUTTON who died 1st Nov 1945 aged 76 years.
"To the memory dear."
J. NISH (Sculptor)
I hope these are of some help
Kind regards
beannie
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Wow Beannnie,
THANK YOU SO MUCH
LYNN
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Hi
I am researching my ggparent/s - I am new to this so am unsure of what to post.
Great grandmother Margaret MACKIE/MCkie/ McKee/Mackay? ( so many variants) dob about 1794 in Ireland but lived in Kirkmaiden. Her son David MACKIE dob about 1822. Agnes MACKIE dob about 1825. Her granddaughter - Margaret CAIRNIE/MACKIE dob 1846. Her granddaughter Mary MILLIGAN/MACKIE dob 1848 all of Kirkmaiden, wigtownshire
Any help would be much appreciated :)
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Hi sazzyannie,
The only McKie that I can see for an MI for Kirkmaiden is; David McKie (born c.1820 -1905) married to Janet McCulloch, is this your David?
I had a look at the 1851 census and found Margaret W57, David 29, Agnes 26 and another daughter Janet Stevenson, also Mary and Margaret.
What other info do you have as there are a number of mcKie's.
Kind Regards
beannie
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Hi Beannie,
Thanks very much for the offer and any time you may put in.
I am very interested in my family name Morland (McMorland?)
Originating from these potential areas 1700`s/1800`s
Will be so grateful if u have the time to have a look.
Best wishes
Scott Morland
NZ
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Hello all! I just recently found out married names of my great grandfather's sisters,Elizabeth Marshbank and Sarah Mangle. Parents were William and Mary McClinton. I know that William and Mary are buried there( Thanks to Beannie!) ..I am trying to find out if there is a listing for Elizabeth and Sarah? They were both in Drummore(?) in 1931 according to death records i found for their father and Sarah's husband James Mangle. Any help with these names greatly appreciated as always...Thanks so much,Jodi
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hi Jodi, I'm interested in your McClinton name. We've got Ayrshire/Wigtownshire McLinden, Mc A Linden, McAlyndon, McLinten, MacKlandin, Linden &c &c...every conceivable spelling under the sun, moon & stars.
I actually have two completely different McLinden families, both originating in Ireland but the above multi-spelt west coast ones originate, pre 1800, in Ireland, then settled, initially, in Ayrshire whereas my east coast ones, drifting towards the McLindon spelling, appear on the Scottish scene mid 1800's and originate from Rathfrithland in Ireland.
My earliest is westcoast one is Michael and had an unknown possible brother / nephew. BMD's are proving difficult to trace for this and the next generation. We've had to depend, where possible, on post 1855 death lines to track down many members. It's been a long process so i always prick up my ears when i spot a McLinden type name in that part of the world :)
Most of the Ayrshire family were in weaving but some boys went to sea or joined the army and saw the world sometimes falling off the planet in the process..
I have some Williams who fell off the planet and i've no idea what happened to them. Have you any idea of where and when your William was born?
Maybe when you have time, you could come back to me
cheers for now
Fionnghal
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Hi Fionnghal! My McClinton family came from Ireland as well..(most records show County Down). Williams parents were Robert McClinton and Mary Cairns, Roberts parents were Henry McClinton and Sarah Paterson(Patterson)..William married Mary Jane Gribbin. All named except for Henry and Sarah have a stone in Kirkmaiden Cemetery,along with a daughter Robina McGaw and other children with the McClinton name. My previous post listed Sarah Mangle as Williams daughter when i actually believe she was his sister(no proof yet).. I do not have any info on Henry and Sarah(my brick walls ???) ..possibly stayed in Ireland. If you happen to run into these names,PLEASE pass them along...Best wishes and Happy Hunting from Kentucky,Jodi
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Hi Scott,
here are all the Morland/McMorland MI's
Kirkmaiden
A.M. Erected by Agnes MOORE in loving memory of her husband Robert MORLAND who died at Drummore Octr. 18th 1893 aged 64 years. Also the above Agnes MORRE who died at Drummore 7th March 1909 aged 71 years. "Thy will be done"
In loving memeory of William MORLAND beloved husband of Margaret GRAHAM who died 31st October 1932 aged 72 years. Also the above Margaret GRAHAM who died 5th February 1938 aged 72 years. Also their niece Jessie Rennie MORLAND who died 29th June 1906 aged 21 years.
Stoneykirk
Erected by John HEARS, Farmer Bine, in memory of his wife Mary McMORLAND who died 9th Novr 1887 aged 33 years. Also Janet KILPATRICK their daughter who died 9th April 1888 aged 2 years. Also the above Patrick HEARS died at Bine 16th Novr 1892 aged 45 years. Also Margaret KILPATRICK, daughter of the above John HEARS who died 13th Sept 1909 aged 22 years. Elizabeth BUNTING wife of the above John HEARS who died at Bine 19th July 1936 in her 79th year.
Here lies the corpfe of Jane HUNTER, spoufe to Thomas MCMORLAND in High Culgroat who departed this life 15th Decr 1750 aged 45 years. Thro--- various ills she shone. Consoled her neighbours woes and bore her own ------ ------
I hope this helps, even if none of them are yours.
Kind Regards
Beannie
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Hi
Would be very grateful if you could check records for Kirkmaiden for me. I have just got DC for David McCulloch who died 1858, I believe he was married to Mary Campbell, son of William McCulloch & Margaret McKeand. If there are any other McCulloch burials it would good to know.
Many thanks for your time.
Alison
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Hi Beannie,
I was wondering if there were any Cameron's on the MI's, specifically in Stoneykirk?
More specifically John Cameron (born c1821 in Ireland) who married Elizabeth McCulloch in Stoneykirk c1850. I have them in census records in Stoneykirk until at least 1891 (residing in Kilconnan Cottage, with their daughter, Agnes, and her husband, Alexander Haswell). Their other children were Martha, Mary Milvain, Jane, Elizabeth, Anne and Alexander Cameron.
Thanks in advance for anything you can find.
Cheers,
Chris in Aus
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Scott and Beannie,
I just came across your posts regarding the MI "William MORLAND beloved husband of Margaret GRAHAM who died 31st October 1932 aged 72 years. Also the above Margaret GRAHAM who died 5th February 1938 aged 72 years". William and Margaret and my great Grandparents. Their son Robert, emigrated to the US through Ellis Island. Robert is my Grandfather.
I am interested in visiting Drummore and putting some flowers on my great Grandparents graves. Any idea where they are buried?
Thanks
Robbie Morland
US
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Hi Robbie, I dont have the MIs for this cemetery .. Maybe Beanie can assist as It may be that the MIs for the cemetery where your family lie at rest .. They often come with a map so if u can access the MIs where Beanie has been kind enough to share.. then hopefully a map exists where the researcher has transcribed from a Memorial Stone... I have covered a few visits in Wigtownshire .. My relatives are in Stranraer, Inch, Leswalt, Stonykirk.. I have a few trees on the go .. One touches your side..... I have been lucky enough to map out back to my 6 x Grt Grandfather on my main tree .. A John McMorland Died 1783 age 81 laid to rest in the Old Parish Cemetery in Inch .. I firmly believe that these Morlands, McMorlands are probably all related in this area .. The challenge is how far u can get back to link it all together.. ... Apologies Beanie as I cant see me thanking you for your sharing back a few years ago.. I thank u now ...
Robbie do u have a tree?
All the best guys
Scott Morland
NZ
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Thanks Scott. I am just starting to build my tree in Scotland. I know very little of my Scottish family history but recently have developed a keen interest in learning who and what that history is. I have a lot of admiration for my Grandfather. Unfortunately, he felt so blessed to have moved to America and started a new life here that he did not talk much about his home and life in Scotland. He left when he was 18, transited through Ellis Island, and moved to Iowa where he started to farm. Then World War I intervened, a new family, the farm, then World War II, his growing family, then my Dad leaving for Korea, and he never made it back to Scotland.
How did the McMorland's become Morland in your family tree?
Thanks Robbie
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Hi Robbie
I've just seen your post, I have a map of the cemetery in the MI book, it's a beautiful place with fabulous views all around on a clear day. Lots of my own ancestors are buried there and I get up there when I can. I will send you a PM so I can give you the map.
Kind regards
Beannie