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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Leicestershire => England => Leicestershire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: sandra.s on Friday 12 September 08 09:02 BST (UK)
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Hello All
My 2xGreat Grandfather William Middleton was born c.1812 at Broughton Astley (from census) I'd like some help please to find his baptism and hopefully who his parents were and also, possible siblings. William married Ann Roberts in 1834 at Kirkby Mallory.
Many thanks in advance
Cheers
Sandra
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there is some great Broughton info on the leics Villages site:
www.leicestershirevillages.com/broughtonastley
was having a rummage but hubbies dragging me off to town.....
Diddy
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Thanks Diddy
I'd been there, but went back for another look, but no joy. Keeping my fingers x-ed!
Happy shopping!
Sandra
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Sandra - is this your William 7 Ann from great glen MI's:?
A40
In loving memory of WILLIAM MIDDLETON who died September 4 1909 aged 84 years also of ANN the beloved wife of WILLIAM MIDDLETON who died August 9 1897 aged 73 years “Not gone from memory, not gone from love But gone to the father’s home above”
I might be way off.....
Doesn't help find birth etc.
Diddy
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Unfortunately not Diddy. William died Q1 1891 as Ann is a widow living with her 2 unmarried daughters in Nottingham on the 1891 census. (William and Ann had been living in Tollerton, Notts from around 1861)
Perhaps I need to see if anyone has access to Kirkby Mallory PR's where William and Ann married 20th July 1834. Maybe the witnesses names will give a lead.
Many thanks for looking.
Sandra
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Greeting’s & Welcome …..Sandra…….
Fiche No’ D E 515. / 7. 2 of 2 fiches.
All Saint’s Parish Church.
Kirkby Mallory.
Read thus :~
MARRIAGES ANNO DOMINI :~ 1834.
Page No’ 97.
Entry No’ 289.
William Middleton. Bachelor. Of the Parish of Elmesthorpe.
Ann Roberts. Spinster. Of the Parish of Elmesthorpe.
Married in this Church by Banns Read at Earl Shilton.
This Twentieth Day of July.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty Four.
By Me :~ John Longhurst. Curate.
Both signed the Register by their own Mark
William ….+ Ann ….X
In the Presence of :~
William Preston.
Helen Barnes.
I’ll explore Broughton Astley Baptisms next time I’m at the Records Office
And report back on this thread
But in the meantime I notice that on the I.G.I. Batch No’s
We have :~
St. Mary’s Parish Church Broughton Astley.
Richard. Son of Joseph & Martha Middleton.
16th August. 1829.
Baptised at the age of 16. ( c.1811) ?
So. ….are Joseph & Martha also the Parents of your William ?
Hope this helps.
MIKE.
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Hello Mike
Thank you so much for looking up William and Ann's marriage for me!! I really appreciate your help!
I had noted from the IGI Richards adult baptism, and also as the parents of William two possible marriages in Broughton Astley:
Joseph Middleton and L Martha Jacques 23rd April 1810
John Middleton and Mary Toone 4th June 1811
I'd suspect that Joseph and John were brothers, and that their parents were possibly John Middleton and Mary Woodburne who'd married 14th Oct 1776 in Broughton Astley.
I've had a 'feeling' that Joseph and Martha could be the parents of William. But I guess I really need some 'proof'! And also the fact that Richard was baptised as an adult suggests that Joseph and Martha didn't have their children baptised as babies - at least, not in the mainstream church. The IGI has baptism records 1750 to 1836 for Broughton Astley and Richard's is the only one for a Middleton! Which also suggests that the family were resident there at that time. Possibly though, they may have had their children baptised in a neighbouring village...??
I've also noted from census records a few other male Middletons born 1800 - 1825 in Broughton Astley.
Many Thanks for your offer to do more look-ups on the Middletons! I'll look forward to seeing if you come up with anything.
Cheers
Sandra
Interestingly, my Great Grandfather Tom , son of William and Ann wholeheartedly embraced the Closed Brethren religion here in New Zealand in the early 1900's, so possibly he'd not been brought up an Anglican.
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Greeting’s again. ………….. Sandra.
As promised here are the details of St. Mary’s Parish Registers
Broughton Astley..........In year order.
EYES DOWN. !!! ........ :o
MARRIAGES ANNO DOMINI :~ 1776.
John Middleton. Bachelor. Of the Parish of Thorpe.
( Primethorpe part of Broughton Astley. )
Mary Woodburne. Spinster. of the Parish of Frolesworth.
Married in this Church by LICENCE.
This Fourteenth Day of October.
In the year of our Lord.
One Thousand Seven Hundred and Seventy Six.
By Me :~ J. Lapworth. Rector.
Both signed register by their Marks…… X……. Times two.
In the Presence of :~
Wm. Woodburne. Josiah Woodburne.
EXTRA INFORMATION From the Licence Bond Index cards :~
Approved & Granted ….11th. October. 1776.
MIDDLETON. JOHN. Jnr. Servant. Broughton Astley.
Bachelor Aged. 21.
WOODBURNE. MARY. Spinster. Aged. 23. of Frolesworth.
Marriage to take place in Broughton Astley.
Securer of £200 Bond.:~
John Middleton. Snr. Grazier. Huncote.
MARRIAGES ANNO DOMINI :~ 1808.
William Middleton. Of this Parish.
Sarah Knight. Of Ashby Magna.
Married in this Church by Banns
This Eleventh day of January
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Eight.
By Me :~ Joseph Jones. Curate of Ashby Magna.
William signed by own signature.
Sarah by her Mark……X
In the Presence of :~
Joseph Middleton.
Tho’s Smith. ( Parish Clark. )
MARRIAGES ANNO DOMINI :~ 1810.
Joseph Middleton. Bachelor. of this Parish.
Martha Jacques. Spinster. Of the Parish of Little Ashby. ( Ashby Parva. )
Married in this Church By Banns.
This Twenty third Day of April.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Ten.
By me :~ Joseph Jones. Officiating Minster.
Both signed the register in their own signatures.
In the Presence of :~
John Middleton. Martha Toone.
MARRIAGES ANNO DOMINI :~ 1811.
Entry No’ 98.
John Middleton. Of this Parish.
Martha Toone. Of this Parish.
Married in this Church by Banns.
This Fourth Day of June.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Eleven.
By Me :~ James Neale . Curate.
Both signed register in their own signatures.
In the Presence of :~
Wm. Wallis.
Harry Lydot. By his Mark . …X
BAPTISMS ANNO DOMINI :~ 1829.
Page. No’ 32.
Entry No’ 299.
August. 10th. 1829.
Richard. Son of
Aged. 18. ( Clear 18 not 16 )
Joseph & Martha Middleton.
Thorpe in this Parish.
Frame Work Knitter.
R. T. Adunutt. Minister.
Written right across the columns :~
Was Publicly Baptised and received into the Church.
I’m sorry I did not spot a Baptism for William Middleton c 1812.
I hope this helps.
MIKE.
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Hello Mike
Thanks so much for all that information ! It will be a great help. Today (it's raining again!) I'll have a relook at the census and also the female's families to see what I can come up with. I'll 'go with' Martha and Joseph being William's parents and see if I can find any other possible family connections that could lead to a little more 'proof'.
Thanks again!
Cheers
Sandra
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Hello Mike
An update
Thanks again for the info you've provided!It's most helpful!
After searching census records, it's looking as though probably John and Martha (Toone) could be William's parents - they stayed in Broughton Astley and all their (probable) children were born there. Sarah and William lived in Ashby Parva, and Joseph and Martha in Whetstone and their children were born in those villages.
It would also appear that the families were non conformists, as I found older child baptisms for some of Sarah and Williams at Ullsthorpe Independent (IGI) (including a William b.1814 - always possible he could be ours!) but Joseph and Martha had two daughters christened probably when they were older at Whetstone - and Richard at Broughton Astley - so there must have been a change of mind at some stage for them. No christenings found for any of John and Martha's children.
I'm wondering if you know if there was an alternative to mainstream Church at Broughton Astley or close by that John and Martha could have attended?
Also - is there anyone 'out there' who may have connections to any of these Middleton families? I'd love to hear from you.
Cheers
Sandra
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Sandra
Hello - I came across your link after following a branch of my family tree.
William Middleton had 6 children of which Thomas Middleton (b. March 1856)was one. Thomas married Elizabeth Jemima Ruddock in August 1878, Nottingham. Elizabeth J Ruddock was the daughter of Elizabeth Fuller (b. 1813, Southwark, Surrey) and the sister of William John Fuller (my direct ancestor). I have some information about the Ruddock's and a little info about the Middleton's but generally following the Fuller line.
Hope this is of some interest and let me know if I can help with more details.
Happy new year,
Kind regards, Neil
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Hello Neil
Many thanks for your contact!! I'm a great grand daughter of Elizabeth Jemima and Tom Middleton. So I can provide you with info on their family if you'd like, a few photos also.
Yes please I'd love to know more about the Fuller link.
And we could do a share and compare on the Ruddocks and Middletons!
My home email is E-Mail removed to prevent Spamming - Please use the Private Message facility - Global Moderator
I look forward to hearing from you.
Cheers
Sandra
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Hello Sandra
I am also a descendant of William Middleton - via his son John b 1846.
I have spent more hours than I care to think about trying to track down William's birth in the Leicester Record office - but everything seemed to be a dead end. I am so glad to be able to piggy back onto someone else's work!
I'd also come to the conclusion that William was born into a non-conformist household. A Particular Baptist Chapel was erected in Broughton in 1755 and seems to have had a sizeable congregation in the 1850s - though I couldn't find any specific mention of any Middletons when I looked generally.
I've also become stuck with the Roberts family - I've got a baptism of an Anne Roberts in Peckleton in 1816 to a Matthew and Mary (nee White). Since this is a multiple baptism of 3 children, the fact that 'our' Ann would be about 5 at this time didn't worry me. Unfortunately Matthew only marries Mary in 1813, and there's an earlier baptism of a girl, Maria, in 1814. Have you got anywhere with the Roberts?
Jane
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Hello "Cousin' Jane
So wonderful to hear from you! Some of our New Zealand lot visited/stayed with descendants of John after WW1 according to family oral history.
I've pondered the Middleton 'mystery' and researched the possible 3 sets of parents and their families for William. I've (very) tentatively come to the conclusion that they were John Middleton and Martha Toone.
I've also come to the same conclusions as you about the Roberts family.
Cheers
Sandra
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Sandra
I'd love to hear the tales of staying with John's family - and also some blanks concerning Tom, as I'd not realised he'd emigrated to New Zealand, the census records just came to a full stop. I don't know if it would be easier to PM me - I'm happy to pas on my private email once we get there.
NB Frankly, I wish I had come to some conclusions about the Roberts - all I've got at present are unanswered questions!!
Jane
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Hi Jane
Guess you could say I came to the Roberts conclusions for lack of other possibilities!!
I've sent you a 'personal message' with my home email.
Cheers
Sandra