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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: DoireM on Thursday 25 September 08 23:01 BST (UK)
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My great-great grand parents James McCallion and Anne (Nancy) Barr, McCallion from Gortnamona, Three Trees, Quigley's Point, Co. Donegal had six children:
1. Catherine bapt. 10 Feb 1861
2. James bapt. 1 March 1863
3. Michael bapt. 4 March 1866 (my great grand father) married Ellen Bradley (born; 11 Dec 1864) of Three Trees.
4. Sarah bapt. 3 October 1869 single, died; 30 August 1952
5. Denis bapt. 9 February 1873
6. Thomas bapt. 2 May 1875
In the 1901 Censes for Three Trees, Muff, Co. Donegal it states that;
Anne McCallion (60) is head of house, widowed and a seamstress.
Sarah McCallion (20?) daughter, single and a seamstress.
Patrick McCallion 9 grandson, scholar.
Catherine McCallion 7, grand daughter, scholar.
On the 1911 Censes for Three Trees, Muff, Co. Donegal it states that;
Anne McCallion (77) Head of household, widowed and a seamstress.
Sarah McCallion (40)? daughter, single, and a seamstress.
Anne McCallion 12 grand daughter, scholar.
I have no information on Catherine, James, Denis or Thomas or any of the grandchildren that are named above. ::)
Anyone out there connected!! ???
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Hi
My ggrandparents were Denis McCallion and Mary Ruddy on Meedenmore, Three Trees, Muff which is next to Gortnamona and I think he may have been a brother of James but I have no proof of that,Can you help?.
I think I may also have a picture of Nancy Barr which I can post to your e.mail address if you like.
Patrick Ruddy
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found some christenings for their children,you may already have them. this one i'am posting because you mention it (hirl) on an early post.
christening. ANN MCCALLION 6-8-1877 @ ST JOSEPH C.C. ISKAHEEN CO.DONEGAL.
parents. DENIS & MARY MCCALLION. MEEDINMORE.
godparents. DENIS & MARY HIRL.
regards mary.
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Hello Mary,
Thank you for responding to my posting. I'm afraid you maybe mixing me up with someone looking for Hirl. This is my first post for McCallion.
But thanks all the same.
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Hi Mary
I think your message was ment for me. Thank you for your reply but as you say I have this information. With regard to the Hirls I am trying to find who Mary McCallion (nee Ruddy) was related to in Glentogher and I believe she had at least 1 brother living there at this time and he was married to a Rose Ann Hirl (various spellings) but that is another search which is running along side what I am trying to find at the moment.
But once again thank you for your reply
Patrick Ruddy
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Dear Mary,
I am the great-grand-son of Denis McCallion baptized 9 Feb 1873. Denis married Margaret (Maggie) Doherty and they immigrated to Boston, MA in the early 1900's. Mary Doherty was born in 1875 in three trees. In order to secure better employment in Boston they changed their family name to Campbell. My grandmother, Loretta, was their daughter. Denis and Maggie had 5 children; John, Annie, Lorrie, Jimmy and Loretta. I never met Denis, he died 1925, he was 52 years old. Maggie lived until 1962 and died at the age of 88 years old.
On Saturday, 25 April, I am taking my Mom (Denis & Mary McCallion's grand-daughter) to Ireland for the first time. We are planning to visit Three Trees mid-week.
Regards,
Dennis Reilly
Nashua, NH, USA
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Hello Dennis and welcome to Rootschat.
Looks like we have the same family connection with Denis McCallion from Gortnamona, Three Trees. His brother Michael, is my great-grand father.
Are you aware of any other members of his family heading Stateside?
The homestead is still standing but has not been occupied since 1950's. I would love to meet up and show you around if you wish and exchange family information.
Regards,
DoireM
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Mary,
My plan is to be in Three Trees on Thursday, April 30th. It would be wonderful if I could see where it all began for us. Is there an address of the original homestead? Are there any local McCallions left in the area? I will ask my mother if she knew of any of her grandfathers brothers or sisters. I was named after Denis McCallion. Do you know anything about his wife Margret Doherty? She was born in 1875 and was the only girl in her family. I do have some memory of her. She died when I was 7 years old.
Warmest Regards Cousin,
Dennis
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Hello Cousin Dennis,
Thank you for your prompt reply. Thursday 30th April would work for me. The homestead is not in the hands of McCallion anymore ... which is a pity. I am the only one interested in the genealogy. In that part of Donegal they use the townland as an address, so Gortnamona, Three Trees is the address. I am sorry I don't know your great grand mother's family ... Doherty is the most commonest surname in Donegal. The only McCallion's left are of my great grand father Michael's offspring and they live in the Parish, they would be your mother's second cousins. I am going to surprise you now and tell you I have a photograph of your great grand father Denis and my great grandfather Michael taken at "Beckford's Photo Studio" 43 Winter Street, Boston, unfortunately I do not have a year. I also have a photograph of their mother Annie (Nancy) Barr McCallion.
Best wishes,
Marie (DoireM)
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Dear Marie,
This is amazing! We have visited Ireland 5 or 6 times in the past. Unfortunately, we never made it as north as Donegal. This time we thought it would be a good idea to bring my Mom along and visit the north. Well, the thought that we may meet a living relative is beyond my wildest dreams. It would be a honor to meet you on the 30th. We will be driving up from Donegal Town. It will be my wife Patricia, our 10 year old son Liam, my Mom and myself. By the way, I mentioned that I was named after my great-garndfather. However, I forgot to mention that my middle name is Michael after your great-grandfather. I believe my grandmother and great-grandmother had a big hand in my name selection. It would be wonderful if there was a way I could get copies of those photos.
Marie, how, when, where should we meet you? My US mobile phone works in Ireland and I could forward you that number. If you feel comfortable providing me with your phone number, I could call you on the way to Three Trees. I'll leave that up to you. What is your family name?
Very much looking forward to meeting you and walking in the path of our ancestors together.
God Bless,
Dennis Michael Reilly
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Hello
My name is Steve Campbell and I live in the US. My great-grandfather was Michael McCallion (1835-1899) who married Margaret K Logue (1857-1886) in Iskaheen in 1876 and emigrated to the US shortly thereafter (and changed his name to Campbell). His parents were James McCallion (1799-1870) of Iskaheen and Unity Moran (1796-1891). I have not been able to find out who Michael's siblings were although there is speculation that Denis McCallion (1883-1914, spouse Mary Ruddy) was his brother. I have been in touch with Patric Ruddy and Andre Brehmer who are related to Denis. Can anyone else help?
Thanks
Steve Campbell
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Hello Steve,
Welcome to Rootschat. Iskaheen is my area of interest. The surviving baptismal register starts 1858 so it's unlikely that you will find siblings of Michael's there. I cannot see how Denis McCallion (1883-1914) would be a brother of Michael (1835-1899) from these dates!
DoireM
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Marie
Sorry, I had a typo in my message. I meant to say Denis McCallion (1833-1914) who obviously could have been Michael's brother. It's my impression that Michael (McCallion) Campbell came to Philadelphia in the early 1850s and worked as a house painter until going back to Iskaheen to marry Margaret Logue. In any case I have the passenger list showing Michael Campbell (age 40) and Margaret Logue (age 20) arriving in Philadelphia in 1876.
Thanks
Steve C.
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Hi Steve,
Do you have the marriage certs for Michael and Dennis? I have the date for Denis and Mary Ruddy's marriage which is 27 July, 1865 married in Carndonagh. If you don't have a copy I can get this in my local LDS Centre.
It is funny how we are researching the same male names!!
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Hi Marie and Steve. I think it more likley that Denis and Michael were cousins and Michaels father James McCallion and Denis's father (also Denis) were brothers.
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Hi Patrick,
Thanks for the clarification.
Marie
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal
come down the page and click on Muff
McCallion mentioned mother name Ann Barr
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St Patrick Cathlice church, parish of Iskaheen under MUFF on the donegal resources site
donegal resources baptisms 1858-1901
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I've been analyzing the Iskaheen RC baptism records & other sources and it looks to me as though there are the following McCallion groupings: Aught, Glackmore/Meedinmore, Gortnamona/Clunelly and Iskaheen.
Glackmore & Meedinmore are within walking distance (with Three Trees between). Clunelly is to the East and Aught is to the West. Marie mentions Quigley's Point which is East of Clunelly. I can't find Gortnamona on the map but I assume that it was in the area of Quigley's Point. Iskaheen is south between Three Trees and Muff.
Patrick Ruddy & Keith Brehmer fall in the Meedinmore group starting with Denis McCallion (~1800 - ?) & Mary Sweeney (~1805-?). This line is Denis (1800)/Mary Sweeney -> Denis (1833)/Mary Ruddy -> James (1867)/Annie Crosson -> Bernard Ruddy/Margaret McCallion -> Patrick (don't know about Keith's relatives but know they are cousins).
I (Steve Campbell) fall in the Glackmore group starting with James McCallion (~1799-1870) & Mary Laughlin (?) (1800-?) -> Michael (McCallion) Campbell (~1833) & Margaret Logue -> James R. Campbell & Mary Logue -> Weldon Campbell -> me.
Marie and Dennis Reilly fall in the Gortnamona group starting with Edward McCallion (~1815-?) & wife Mary -> James (b. 1848) & Nancy Barr -> Michael & Ellen Bradley (to Marie), Denis & Margaret Doherty (to Dennis Reilly) and possibly James & Mary Anne Deeny.
It seems possible that James McCallion (b. ~1799) of Glackmore & Dennis McCallion (b. ~1800) of Meedinmore could be brothers. The Meedinmore & Glackmore groups seem to be closely related. My great-grandfather Michael (McCallion) Campbell was from Glackmore and his wife Margaret Logue was from Meedinmore. They are related to Margeys, Feeneys, Logues, McDevitts & McDaids.
I probably have some of this wrong but it's helped me make sense of things. I believe that there's a good chance that I'm related to Patrick & Keith but less so to Marie & Dennis. Ironically, I was born in Pacific Northwest but live in the Boston area where Dennis' relatives immigrated in the 1900s and changed their name to Campbell!
Any comments & corrections are appreciated.
Steve C.
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Another question: have any of the males done the Y-chromosome test? I did the Family DNA test kit and it came out clearly Irish. I only had one close match which was a certain Claude Massey (deceased) but I can't find any Masseys in the Iskaheen RC records. I'm currently waiting for more precise analysis but I guess that if Patrick & Keith are related, it's at least 6 generations back.
Steve C.
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Hello Steve,
The Gornamona and Aught McCallions are my direct line. The Edward McCallion (1815) and wife Mary are not my connection. James McCallion's father was Hugh McCallion (Tithe Records) in Gortnamona.
There were McCallions in Gortagore, Three Trees as well. The last known on this line is 90 years young and I have questioned her.
Steve, my great grandmother was a Margey from Clunelly. Feeney's lived next door to my McCallion's in Gortnamona. Logues are popular in Clunelly area, so it's all within radius. McDevitt and McDaid are the same name.
Marie
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Marie
I apologize for making the mistake. Yes, I see that Hugh McCallion is mentioned as living in Gortnamona in 1837 & 1857.
Patrick & Keith
I meant to say that if I'm related to you, then it's at least six generations back.
Thank you all for your help.
Steve C.
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Hello again Marie and Steve.
Marie as I recall you suggested that wee Denis(Meedenmore) and Mary McCallion Bradley were 2nd cousins and if so that links the Meedenmore McCallions to the Gortnamona McCallions and if the information on San Francisco Census (1920) is correct then this would connect the Meedenmore McCallion to the Glackmore McCallions. That in turn would connect all 3 families something that would not come as a great surprise there just has never been any clues to that being the case
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Hi
My name is Veronica and I live in Australia. My GG Grandmother was Bridget McCallion (1834-1924) who married Edward Doherty and then emigrated to Australia in 1854. Bridget's parents were Denis McCallion & Mary Sweeney. I had no details of any of Bridget's siblings until seeing this post today.
Cheers
Veronica
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Hi Veronica
I wonder if you could contact me by e.mail. I have a number of questions I would like to ask re Bridget and Edward and the source of your information.
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Veronica
My understanding is that Denis McCallion (1805-1882) & Mary Sweeney (1812-?) had at least three children (maybe more that I don't know about):
Denis McCallion (1833 – 1914)
Bridget McAllen (1834 – 1924)
Ann McCallion (1842 – ?)
Bridget (McCallion) McAllen married Edward Doherty (1816 – 1881). According to the Alexander Penrice Stuart family tree in Ancestry.com, Bridget & Edward had these children:
James (1854-1911)
Mary (1856-1895)
Ellen (1858-1859)
Edward (1862-1938)
Eliza Jane (1864-1936)
Elizabeth (1867-1867)
Catherine (1868-1949)
William Alfred (1870-1951)
Agnes Cecilla (1888-1958)
So, it looks to me as though you have a common ancestor with Patrick & Keith in Denis McCallion & Mary Sweeney.
Steve C.
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Welcome Veronica to Rootschat. Good to hear from another McCallion looking for their roots. :)
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Hi Steve and Veronica
Can you tell me where the information re Denis McCallion and Mary Sweeney came from?
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Hi,
Patrick my information came from Bridget death certificate, where it lists her father as Denis McCallion, farmer, and her mother as Mary Sweeney.
Steve, the information on ancestry is correct, with the exception that Agnes Cecilia is James's daughter (i.e. Bridget's granddaughter).
I do have the information on Bridget's family once she arrives in Australia, but very little from Ireland, and I don't think anyone from Bridget's family does - this is mainly because she is listed as McCallion, McCallum, McCallen etc on various documents, and I think most of us assumed she was a McCallen.
Cheers
V
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All
I sent a note to pamdixon11 at Ancestry.com asking her about her family tree which shows Denis McCallion (1805-1882) and Mary Sweeney (1812- ) as parents of Bridget McAllen (1834-1924) who married Edward Doherty (1816-1881) and their descendants. I also invited her to join this blog.
Steve C.
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I am asking the wrong thing I think. What I am trying to find out is based on a report sent to me by Ann Simon some years ago. The reprort say the Mary Sweeney was from Milfordand when she was hired to a family in Muff she met and married Denis McCallion. The wedding it seems took place in Milford. This is something we have never heard of before this point and we are wondering who supplied this information. The report also says that Edward Doherty's father James(born c 1780/1790 Killlea) married an Elenor McColgan (born c1790 Iskaheen). The roport goes on to give Elenors parents, Edwards siblings etc. At another point it seems to trace the Doherty's back to c1630 in Killea.
With the best will in the world I think that some of the Doherty informaion at best is conjecture at best. Anyone else got thought on that?
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Patrick
So, do you think that parents of Denis McCallion (1833 – 1914) were not Denis (b. 1805) and Mary Sweeney (b. 1812)? In other words that Bridget McCallion and Denis (b.1833) weren't siblings?
Also, who did you mean by "wee Denis" and "Mary McCallion"? I was assuming you meant Denis (b. 1833) but couldn't figure out which of the many Marys you meant.
Finally, I still don't understand who Mary Dever might be. I did find a marriage record in Philadelphia of a James Devers and a Mary Crosson in 1893 which initially led me to think that Mary Dever might be Mary Crosson. But that doesn't seem very likely since James Dever & Mary Dever were living in San Francisco at the time, and James Dever was naturalized there in 1890.
It seems to me that Mary Dever wasn't necessarily a McCallion. Couldn't she have been related to Annie Logue Feeney on the Logue side instead? Just a thought.
Steve C.
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To be truthful I am in no position to dispute Denis being the son of Denis McCallion and Mary Sweeney what bothers me is where did this information come from as proir to have it been sent to me via Ann Simon no one had ever heard of this but that does no mean it is untrue it is just unproven.
The wee Denis I mentioned was the son of James McCallion and Anne Crossan of Clunelly. James and Anne were my grandparents so wee Denis was my uncle. This James McCallion was born 1867 in Meedenmore the son of Denis McCallion and Mary Ruddy and if the information correct this Denis was the son of Denis McCallion and Mary Sweeney.
Mary Dever was born Mary McCallion daughter of Denis McCallion and Mary Ruddy( sister to James) and she went to California c 1890 with or to join a sister Roseann (Roseann being Keiths line). Mary married a Hugh Dever/Diver( from Donagh parish Donegal we think)in California as far as we know and they sent the rest of their lives in USA
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Patrick
Ah, this clarifies a lot for me. I see that Mary Dever and Hugh Dever are buried in the same plot at Holy Cross cemetery in Colma.
If Mary Dever and Ann Campbell were first cousins, then their fathers Denis (b. 1833) and Michael (born about the same time) would have to be brothers and have the same father.
I got the impression that Michael's father was James McCallion (b. ~1799) but that now seems unlikely since the only James McCallion in Tithe Applotment 1837 & Griffiths 1851 lived in Iskaheen, not Three Trees. There is also a question whether Denis' father was Denis (b. ~1800).
In the Tithe Applotment 1837, there are the following entries for Three Trees:
Denis McCallion
Denis McCallion
Hugh McCallion
William McCallion
This seems to suggest that there were two Denis McCallions (not sure if this is true). At any rate all were presumably born in the early 1800's and any of them could have been fathers of Denis and Michael (except Hugh probably).
We know that Hugh was from Gortnamona and Marie & Dennis Reilly are in his line. It seems possible that there is some confusion between the Denis who married Mary Sweeney and was the father of Bridget McAllen and the other Denis who may have been the father of Denis & maybe Michael. There's also William Campbell who I don't have any information about.
What do you think?
Steve C.
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Steve
Re the tithe it gives 5 names living in Meedenmore Manus Doherty, Andrew Barr, Thomas Barr William McCallion and Denis McCallion and you will see they appear to be grouped together as if they shared the land. (Re sharing the land we will come back to at another point). I am 99.9999% sure that this is the Denis McCallion we are discussing. There is another Denis McCallion who has a farm nearby( can't remember at this point where but I think it is called the Park or Horse park(working from memory here and its letting me down). I believe this to be the Glackmore McCallions. If we now go to other records we see mention of a Denis McCallion jnr and a Denis McCallion sen and another just Denis McCallion. Now who is who at this point?. is hard to say but what we know is that the Denis McCallion who married Mary Ruddy lived on the farm numbered 3A(see G.V.) It seems that Denis McCallion(1) who married Mary Sweeney had a farm of c30 acres and on his death(1878) the farm was shared by 3 brothers, Denis(2), Michael and an other, but who was the other?
On a death cert of Denis's(2) daughter it says the informat was Daniel McCallion(cousin). So we have gone through the baptismal records for St Patrick's Church to try and find Daniel and lo and behold there is 2, both born Meedenmore. 1 Daniel bjune b1876, parents Patrick McCallion and Unity Moran and 2 Daniel b Jan 9 1884 parents James McCallion and Mary Moran.
I think we will leaeve that for tonight as its now 2am and we have more ground to cover so to be continued.
Patrick
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So the Tithe tells us there is 2 McCallions in Meedenmore. Going by the parish records there were 3 McCallions in Meedenmore at a point. This is misleading as Michael McCallion did not have any family I have been told but as far as I know. So how do these folk fit into the picture? Keith procured the Cancelled Land Books for the area and in the remarks colum on on of the pages there is a note which says "Rundale holding?". This entry was made a long time after rundale Holdings were abolished but this leaves us with the question was the principals of a Holding maintained until after the death of Denis(1)?. At this point I will let you google Rundale Holding and then let me know what you think. Steve do you want a copy of the report that Ann Simon sent?
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Patrick
Yes, I'd love to see the Ann Simon document. My e-mail is cbluesdog@yahoo.com if you can send it in electronic form.
I did see in the Tithe Applotment books (I think) that many properties seemed to be held in a number of names. I'd like to spend some time looking into this further when I get some free time (I'm currently very busy with a do-or-die project at work).
Do you think that Michael's father was a certain James McCallion, possibly married to Mary MLaughlin? Andrew Howard's note in Ancestry.com quotes your message to him, which seems to suggest this. If so, what's this based on?
I've noticed a hill or mountain to the Northwest of Three Trees and I just realized that this must be Glackmore Hill. It's quite interesting how the town lands are so long and narrow. It seems like each town land was laid out such that there was good land close to the shore with access to the sea plus gradually poorer land further inland and running up to the mountain.
Are there any maps that go along with the Tithe Applotment and Griffith's Valuation listings? Ideally, I'd like to understand where in Glackmore my great-grandfather Michael McCallion grew up.
Thanks
Steve C.
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Hi Steve,
Can I throw something out there to see if it relates to a McCallion. I have a photocopy of a postcard dated March 29, 1912 postmark Philadelphia (West Philadelphia Station). It is addressed to my grand-aunt Annie McCallion of Gortnamona, Q.P.
It reads as follows .... 'Hoping your are a good girl with best love from cousin Annie. Good bye my little girl.' xxxx
Now my grand aunt would of been 23 years old in 1912. I have no idea who this person is in Philadelphia who wrote this postcard. Any thoughts!!
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Marie
I gather that the great-aunt was Annie McCallion born 1889 to Michael McCallion of Gortnamona who was married to Helen Bradley. Michael's parents were James McCallion and Nancy Barr. From the Iskaheen RC birth records, they had Catherine (b. 1861), James (b. 1863), Michael (b. 1866), Sarah (b. 1869). Denis (b. 1873) and Thomas (b. 1875).
If she was a first cousin, then Annie in Philly was either a daughter of one of Micheal's older siblings (if there were any) or the daughter of one of Nancy Barr's older siblings. I say older siblings because it sounds like Annie in Philly was substantially older than your great-aunt, say 10-15 years older. If so, she would have been born in the range 1874-1879.
Michael's older siblings were Catherine and James. The only record for Catherine is a son, Dan, born in 1886 with Hugh Doherty. James didn't have any children by the name Ann and Denis's children were born in Boston in 1899 or after. There is a Sarah or Sally McCallion who married James McCaul from Gortin/Ture. Their children were born about the right time but none of them were named Ann.
It appears that Nancy Barr had sisters Mary and Sarah. Mary was married to Charles McCann and they had the following children: Mary, Sarah, Anne, John, Bridget, Elizabeth, Thomas and Andrew. Anne McCann was born in 1881 which seems a little late but possible. I didn't know whether she emigrated to the US, but I thought it might be significant that she doesn't appear to have had any children in Muff parish.
On further research, I found that Annie McCann was living in Gortnamona with her mother according to the 1901 Irish Census but was not living there in the 1911 Irish Census. An Annie McCann was living in Philadelphia in 1910 at 911 N 63rd Street (near the intersection with Lebanon) as a servant in the household of Mary M Parke. It is stated that she emigrated to the US in 1904 which is consistent with the Irish Census. She was living in Philadelphia in 1920 as a servant with the Brady family next door at 1101 N 63rd Street. She may have moved to Washington, DC by 1930 but that's less sure. I have not found a death date for her.
It sounds to me as though Annie McCann is most likely the cousin who wrote to your great-aunt. Was there a return address on the card?
Steve C.
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Marie
I just checked and the 911 N 63rd address is in West Philadelphia.
Steve
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Many thanks Steve,
Yes, it's the Annie McCallion born to Michael and Ellen in 1889.
You have given me food for thought here regarding the Barr/McCann line. I was hoping it was Thomas McCallion's line ..... drawing blanks as to where he went!!
I will focus on the Philadelphia information you have supplied me.
Much appreciated,
Marie
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There is another card which do not have a scan of. I took a note of it but just what follows:- Hugh McCallion, Gortnamonagh, from Annie, Philadelphia March 1912. I have no idea what the message says as I have no note of it.
The first card bothers me somewhat as it reads as though it was sent to a child rather than a 23 year old adult. Any thoughts on that?
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Patrick,
The copy postcard I have, I got from James your brother some time ago.
Hugh is Annie's brother in the reference note you have. The only thing I can think as to why Annie in Philadelphia has written, probably to all her cousins in Gortnamonagh, is that she really hasn't moved on in time and thinks of her cousins as in the times she herself grew up in Gortnamonagh.
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Is that postcard written in a similar way
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Patrick,
I didn't know there was a postcard to Hugh, until you posted here.
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Hi Marie
I am wondering on the G.V. there is a Susan McCallion(G.V. map ref 15) who I think also lived in Gortnamona next to Hugh McCallion( G.V. map ref 14c)and Patrick McCann( G.V. map ref 14a).
If we go to the 1911 Census we see that living next to Michael is an Anne McCallion(Susans daughter perhaps). Anne has a daughter Sarah who in turn has a daughter Anne and I was thinking that perhaps the card you mention was for her as she is 12 years old. Any thoughts on that?
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OOPS
Worded that rather badley, I should have said that living with Anne was a daughter Susan and a grandaughter also called Anne who is 12 years old in 1911. I also had another look at the parish records and can't find mention of a Susan McCallion with a daughter called Anne so now wondering who they were or how they fit into things
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Hi
I've speculatively put together the Tithe Applotment and Griffith's Valuation as follows:
Tithe Applotment Griffith's Valuation
Surname Forename Townland Place Forename Townland Place/Comment
Mccallion Owen Muff Muff Deceased?
Mccallion Hugh Three Trees Gortnamona HUGH Three Trees Gortnamona
Mccallion William Three Trees Madanmore SUSAN Three Trees Widow of William?
Mccallion Dennis Three Trees Madanmore DENIS Three Trees Meedinmore
Mccallion Dennis Three Trees The Park DENIS Aught Glackmore?
DENIS Ture
NEAL Ture Brother of Denis?
Mccallion James Iskaheen Iskaheen JAMES Eskaheen
JOHN Eskaheen Son of James?
In the TA 1837, there is a William in Meedinmore who is likely related to Dennis since he held land jointly with him and two Barrs. William is not listed in GV 1851 but Susan is which leads me to believe she might be his widow. William likely died at a young age since he did not have any children.
The Dennis of "The Park" is listed as in Three Trees in TA but is listed as Aught in GV. I agree that this likely refers to Glackmore. There is also a listing for a Dennis in Ture but it's just over the line from Glackmore so I think this might refer to some additional pasture land.
There is also mention of Neal who doesn't appear to be one of Dennis' children, so I suspect he might be a younger brother of Glackmore Dennis.
I've also attached a PDF which summarizes what I've found found from analyzing the McCallion births in the Iskaheen RC records. I've divided the McCallions into Aught, Glackmore, Gortnamona, Iskaheen and Meedinmore groups. I've tried to infer relatives in generations by birth year indicated by the following color codes: Yellow: 1800's, Orange: 1830's, Blue: 1860's and Gray: 1890's.
I'm sure that others have information that I can use to fill in the blanks or correct errors, so please let me know! I have made a larger spreadsheet of the entire Iskaheen RC birth records which I've just started to analyze.
Thanks
Steve C.
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Hi
Re the postcard from Philly, I can imagine that Ann McCann was feeling a bit homesick living as a servant in a foreign country. She seems to have remained a servant and unmarried late into life but I can find no trace of when she died. I wonder why she decided to emigrate to the US?
Re Thomas McCann, he emigrated to the US in 1906, was naturalized in 1911, married Catherine Arbuckle in 1933 and died in 1966. He is buried in Mount Ephraim, New Jersey. I got all this from searching Ancestry.com
Steve C.
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Hi Steve,
Thank you for posting the McCallion table and the McCann information.
I found marriages for -
McCallion - Deeney. July 4, 1889 at Fahan Catholic Church by the Rev. M. Sherrin Adm, assisted by Rev D. Quigley C.C. Burt. Mr James McCallion, Iskaheen to Mary Anne, youngest daughter of Mr Denis Deeney, Drumadoey, Fahan.
McCallion - O'Callaghan - May 14, 1893 at the Church of the Sacred Heart, Carndonagh by the Rev John McLaughlin C.C. Mr Patrick McCallion, tailor and clothier, Iskaheen, Muff, to Miss Margaret O'Callaghan, only daughter of Mr Jeremiah O'Callaghan, Craigstown, Carndonagh.
McCallion - Harley July 10, 1930 at St. Columba's R.C. Church, Drung with Nuptial Mass by the Rev W.C. Dolan C.C. assisted by Rev J.E.A. Nevin C.C. (cousin of the bride) Jerry McCallion (electrical engineer) son of Patrick and Mrs McCallion, Iskaheen, Muff to Mary Josephine (May) eldest daughter of the late Hugh Harley and Mrs Harley, Tromaty, Quigley's Point.
DEATHS:
McCallion - April 8, 1882 at his residence, Iskaheen. James McCallion, aged 68 years.
McCallion: May 21, 1898 at her father's residence Iskaheen. Mary, the dearly beloved child of Patrick and Margaret McCallion, aged 11 months.
McCallion: - October 28, 1923 at his residence 11 Barry Street, Derry. James McCallion beloved husband of Mary Ann McCallion R.I.P. His remains will be removed for interment in Iskaheen burying ground tomorrow Tuesday 30th inst at 10 o'clock.
McCallion - March 27, 1928 at her father's residence Iskaheen, Muff, Co. Donegal. Bridget, eldest daughter of Patrick and Mrs McCallion. Her remains will be removed for interment in Iskaheen burying ground tomorrow Thursday 29th inst at 10.30 a.m.
McCallion - April 10, 1935 at his residence Iskaheen, Muff. Patrick McCallion. R.I.P. Funeral today Friday after 10.30 a.m. mass at Iskaheen.
McCallion - April 15, 1945 at her residence Iskaheen, Muff. Margaret relict of Patrick McCallion R.I.P. Funeral tomorrow Saturday after requiem mass at 10 o'clock in St. Patrick's Church, Iskaheen.
McCallion - (Chelmsford) January 5, 1955 at his residence 1 Moulsham Drive, Chelmsford, Essex, England. Jerry McCallion (late of Iskaheen, Co. Donegal.) Deeply regretted by his sorrowing wife and family. R.I.P. Funeral took place at Chelmsford on Saturday 8th inst.
McCallion - February 6, 1955 at St. Vincent's Hospital, Dublin. Philomena, second daughter of Daniel and Catherine McCallion, Gortagore, Quigley's Point. Deeply regretted by her sorrowing parents, brother and sisters. R.I.P. Funeral arrangements later.
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Me Again
Going by the information i have Bridget McCallion(Campbell) had 3 cousins 1 Dan McCallion 2 Cassie(no surname) and Kate (no Surname) who lived in Ireland. I am unsure if Cassie and Kate are the same person but at the moment I am unsure but the writting is different so I must assume they are not I suppose. There is a card adressed to her sister Sarah which opens "Dear Cousin" and is signed by what looks like C "or L". D. On another card which is adressed to another sister, this time A Campbell (most likley Anne) sent by the same person he signs of by saying "your loving sweetheart" All very strange.
On Dan McCallion the only one who seems to fit the bill is the one on the 1911 living in what appears to be Glackmore. Can you help with that Marie?
The Meedenmore McCallions also had cousins called Hirrell (various spellings)who lived in California but they are from Mary Ruddys side.
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Patrick,
Daniel McCallion (34) in the 1911 Census is the son of Patrick McCallion and Unity Moran of Meedinmore, baptised 4 June, 1877. Sps: James McCallion and Mary Moran. That's if this is his correct age in the Census.
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Hi Marie
Is the age correct, one can only hope :). I see 2 Daniels born within 8 years of each other born in Meedenmore and both with mothers called Moran (Morrin) ???. Anyway, I think I said before I am sure that the McCallions in and around Meedenmore, Glackmore, Gortnamona and Aught etc all share a common root but finding it is the key.
I am also sure that the Austarlian information is either wrong or incomplete. One indicator is the naming convention. i know it is not the best thing to use but when you look at how these familys use similar christian names for there children you can only wonder. The names Denis, Mary, Bridget, James and Anne keep croping up with almost boring regularity.
Going back to the Australian info, we are of a mind that some of that is wrong. As you well know Irish records are so bad that being able to put that together in the way it is must be called into question. I think it unlikley that whoever put this togther could easliy find links back to any Irish family to the 1600's. I am talking about the Doherty wing of this as the McCallion stuff is pretty certain as I have a copy of Bridget's death cert and it clearly states her parents were Denis McCallion and Mary Sweeney. the rest of whats there however is open to question i.e. where did the information come from the Mary Sweeney was from Milford and she was hired in Iskaheen some where etc.
Anyway onwards and upwards and lets see where this goes. any thoughts on who the other cousins could have been?
Patrick
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Re Susan McCallion, she married Patrick McDonald of Glackmore and according to Iskaheen RC births, they had the following children: Patrick (1873 who must have died as an infant), William (1875 must have died as infant), Mary (1877), Patrick (1880), Neil (1882), William (1885) and Michael (1888). I'm guessing she was about 25 when she had her first child which would mean she was born around 1848. So, in 1851 when GV was done, she would have been an infant or small child. Is it possible that she inherited this property at this tender age due to the death of her father? Or is this a Susan McCallion from the previous generation?
Recall that William McCallion of Meedinmore (possibly Dennis' brother) was listed in TA 1837 but absent in GV 1851, this suggests that he died after 1837 but before 1851. I suspect that William was Susan's father and that she inherited the land in Gortnamona from him. Further evidence is that her first child was named after his father Patrick and her second may have been named after her father William.
The key question is who owned plot 15 next to Hugh in 1837? The TA 1837 only lists marginal land held jointly as far as I can tell. Can anyone shed any light on this?
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Hi
I think Susan would be from an ealier generation. Inherit is most likley wrong as most if not all of the land at this point would be rented property which means an agreement would have to be reached betweens the partys as to how much rent would be paid etc. Landowners sometimes would have folks compete against each other to see who would be prepared to pay the highset rent etc.
Re who was in plot 15, as far as I can make out the was only 2 farms in Gortnamona at this time(1837) and both were shared on a 50 50 basis. Going by the information in the margin one between Ann McCann and Annabel Brisland the other between Hugh and John Gill. I guessing here but if we look at the G.V. we may find that these two farms were sub devided at some point.
As for William McCallion he is a mystery as he just seems to vanish as it were and his christian name (William) is little used among the McCallion. It makes me wonder however is he in fact the progenitor of the McCallions in the area. I realise thats a pretty quantam leap but just wonder what others think of that as a possible
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Marie
Re the death notice for James McCallion of Iskaheen, it would seem to definitively rule him out as the father of my great-grandfather Michael McCallion (1832-1899).
DEATHS:
McCallion - April 8, 1882 at his residence, Iskaheen. James McCallion, aged 68 years.
Based on this death notice, James McCallion of Iskaheen was born c. 1814 and he was alive in 1876 when Michael and Margaret Logue were married in 1876. The marriage certificate lists Michael's father as James McCallion and stated that he is deceased. So he couldn't have been James McCalliion of Iskaheen.
Michael's residence is stated as Glackmore which is probably where he was born but I believe that he emigrated to the US originally in circa 1850 and worked until 1876 in Philadelphia as a house painter. I have a lot of evidence for this which I can share (see my Ancestry.com Steven D. Campbell family tree).
My impression is that James McCallion of Glackmore probably was born around 1800 since the men tended to marry in their early thirties from what I can tell. I think it is likely that he died before 1837 when the Tithe Applotment was done and almost certainly before 1858 when the GV for Muff was completed.
The only other possibility is that Michael's father emigrated to the US. Since Michael changed his name to Campbell, I searched for James Campbell on Ancestry.com and found a James Campbell who emigrated to Philadelphia in 1849
View Record Name Arrival Date Age Gender Port of Departure Place of Origin Ship Name
View Record Catherine Campbell 30 May 1849 50 Female Londonderry Ireland Ship Provencialis
View Record James Campbell 30 May 1849 50 Male Londonderry Ireland Ship Provencialis
View Record Rebecca Campbell 30 May 1849 28 Female Londonderry Ireland Ship Provencialis
View Record Ellen Campbell 30 May 1849 23 Female Londonderry Ireland Ship Provencialis
View Record Margaret Campbell 30 May 1849 20 Female Londonderry Ireland Ship Provencialis
View Record James Campbell 30 May 1849 20 Male Londonderry Ireland Ship Provencialis
View Record Michael Campbell 30 May 1849 16 Male Londonderry Ireland Ship Provencialis
View Record Patrick Campbell 30 May 1849 5 Male Londonderry Ireland Ship Provencialis
View Record Bridget Campbell 30 May 1849 4 Female Londonderry Ireland Ship Provencialis
View Record Francis Campbell 30 May 1849 4 Male Londonderry Ireland Ship Provencialis
View Record Patrick Campbell 30 May 1849 9 M Male Londonderry Ireland Ship Provencialis
I note that the Michael Campbell in this group was age 16 so he was born c. 1833 and James Campbell's age was 50 so he was born c.1799. I also found a death certificate for a James Campbell who died in 1864 at age 65 and was buried in the Old Cathedral RC Cemetary (his daughters Mary and Sarah were buried in the New Cathedral Cemetery). So, this also fits since he died prior to 1876. Again, consistent but not conclusive. Finally, the emigration date is consistent with James not appearing in GV. It doesn't jibe with the TA of 1837 but that only addresses owners of mostly marginal land such as pastures.
What do you think?
Steve
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Hello Steve,
Amazing research you have done on the McCallion/Campbell line. I am in agreement with you regarding the death of James McCallion in 1868, ruling him out as Michael's father.
Does the Old Cathedral Cemetery in Philadelphia have records of interment? Might be worth a try!
Marie
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Re Rose Anna McCallion, I found a Rose Campbell living in San Francisco as a servant in 1900. Her birth date matches Rose Anna's known birthdate of 30 Aug 1872.
Name: Rose Campbell
Age: 27
Birth Date: Aug 1872
Birthplace: Ireland
Home in 1900: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1892
Relation to Head of House: Servant
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
The immigration year of 1892 from the census is close to this immigration record:
Name: Rose Campbell
Arrival Date: 18 May 1891
Birth Date: abt 1872
Age: 19
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Irish
Place of Origin: Ireland
Port of Departure: Greenwich, England and Moville, Ireland
Destination: Moville
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: City of Rome
I haven't found any further records that match so far.
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Re Michael McCallion/Campbell, on further review of the passenger lists from the Immigrant Transcribers Guild for the Provincialis(t) arriving in Philadelphia on 30 May 1849, we find
62 Rebecca Campbell 28 mother Ireland 1 chest
63 Francis Campbell 4 boy Ireland
64 Patrick Campbell 5 boy Ireland
167 James Campbell 20 labourer Ireland
185 Ella Campbell 23 spinster Ireland
203 Mich^l Campbell 16 boy Ireland
205 James Campbell 50 labourer Ireland 3 boxes, 1 barrel
206 Cath. Campbell 50 wife Ireland
207 James Campbell 10 child Ireland
208 Bridget Campbell 4 child Ireland
209 Patrick Campbell 9m labourer Ireland
210 Patrick M^cKinie 18 labourer Ireland
251 Marg^t Campbell 20 spinster Ireland
So, I only see a clear family unit for James Campbell of him, Catherine, James (10), Bridget (4) and Patrick (9 m) with Michael listed just before this group.
I also found a Michael Campbell in the 1850 Census listed as living in the Philadelphia House of Refuge. This was a place where young vagrants were housed up to age 21. It turns out that the inmates of the House of Refuge were taught a trade as well as given some schooling. I am quite certain from the 1860 Census that Michael was by that time a house painter. It seems very plausible that he could have been taught to be a house painter and pursued that vocation for many years before returning to Ireland to marry Margaret Logue.
I have not found any definitive record of James Campbell and his family following their arrival in Philadelphia. There are several candidate James Campbells that died and were buried in the Old Cathedral cemetary but none that I can definitely identify. I may try to contact the Philadelphia Archdiocese to search their records, most of which are not on line. But this James Campbell may or may not be related to Michael.
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Attached is more information on Michael McCallion/Campbell. It documents that he likely emigrated to the US circa 1849 and definitely was working as a house painter in Philadelphia by 1860. He must have traveled back to Ireland circa 1876 to marry Margaret Logue but I haven't been able to find a record of that yet.
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Hi there, I stumbled across this site by chance and can shed some light on the McCann and Barr families. Mary and Charles McCann were my great grandparents . My grandfather bring their son John who married Margaret Doherty. My mother Mary MCann was the elder daughter in a family of six. Annie definitely went t o America in the early 1900s but don't know know what happened to her after her arrival. I have a photograph of Mary and Charles with their family outside the family home in Gortnamona very happy to share receive info on the family and neighbours I am a regular visitor to Three Trees.
Best wishes Maureen
Is that postcard written in a similar way
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Hello Maureen,
Welcome to Roots Chat. I believe your great, grandmother Mary and my great, great grandmother Anne are sisters and both lived in Gortmonagh. Do you know of any other siblings of Mary and Annie? I have the marriage cert of Charles and Mary if you want a copy. I believe they had at least 10 children. I found Annie's passage to New York in 1910 and her brother Andrew's passage to New York in 1921 going to Annie who is now married to Charles Petruicci in Stafford, PA.
I did many visits to the late Andy McCann in Gortnamonagh, a few years ago.
Looking forward to making connections Maureen.
Marie
P.S. I believe it was Annie McCann Petrucci who sent the 1912 postcard to her cousin Annie McCallion of Gortnamonagh.
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According to the Iskaheen RC Births, Charles McCann and Mary Barr had the following nine children:
1872 Aug 11 Mary McCann, Charles Barr, Mary McMacken, John Barr, Sarah Gortnamona, Muff
1874 Jul 3 Sarah McCann, Charles Barr, Mary McCallion, Hugh McCann, Bella Cruckglass
1876 Jul 30 Isabella McCann, Charles McCann, Mary McMackin, James McCallion, Isabella Gortnamona, Muff
1881 Jul 25 Anne McCann, Charles Barr, Mary McCallion, James McCallion, Nancy Gortnamona, Muff
1884 Jan 19 John McCann, Charles Barr, Mary Gallagher, James McCann, Bella Gortnamona, Muff
1886 Sep 4 Bridget McCann, Charles Barr, Mary McCallion, Michael McCallion, Sarah Gortnamona, Muff
1890 May 25 Elizabeth McCann, Charles Barr, Mary Gallagher, John McCallion, Sarah
1892 Jul 22 Thomas McCann, Charles Barr, Mary Gallagher, John Gallagher, Mary
1898 Jan 3 Andrew McCann, Charles Barr, Mary Bradley, William McCallion, Ellen
But there may be more not recorded at the Iskaheen RC church.
Oddly, enough Charles Petrucci's wife is variously listed as Anne Barr, Anne McCann and Anne Barr McCann..
Since Charles Petrucci and Anne McCann were married in 1913 in Philadelphia, I assume this is the same Anne McCann that I identified as a servant living there in 1910. So, it seems clear that Anne McCann wrote the postcard in question and finding out that she married Charles Petrucci completes the picture of what happened to her after that.
I assume that Andy McCann is the youngest child that Marie talked to in Gortnamona.
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I have a Microsoft Excel file of the Iskaheen RC Church Births sorted in various ways (father, mother, first name, date, etc). I will be glad to post or send it if anyone is interested.
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Thanks Steve, I too have a copy of the baptismal register and B/M/D I transcribed from the Derry Journal from 1864 - 1960.
I believe there was a Patrick McCann born two years after Isabella. Charles and Mary had 11 children with 10 living from the 1911 census.
Maureen, I have a photograph of Isabella McCann, she was my grandmother's godmother at her baptism.
Patrick, any chance you can get a copy of the Hugh McCallion postcard of 1912?
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Marie
Could I get a copy of your Derry Journal transcription?
Thanks
Steve
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Steve,
Sorry, I don't have these transcriptions on computer, I have them typed up and in a lever arch file. If you wish me to do look-ups it's not a problem.
Marie
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Hi Marie
Re cards I think I have copys of 3 cards addressed to the Gortnamona McCallions but because of the way I have scanned them I need to do a bit of cutting and pasting which I will do during the week and after that I will send them. Patrick
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Thanks Patrick, I appreciate that. :)
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Hi
Meantime I have sent you an e.mail with attachment let me know what you think
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hi,
re james and mary dever:
i believe that this is mary nee riley dever of my san francisco family tree.
the riley family:
thomas and elisa nee fallon
theresa josephine
may (mary), katherine j, john h, joseph, letitia, gertrude and thomas.
the notes on the back of a copy of a photo of my g-g-grandmother theresa riley ehrmann :
4 sisters
gert brady (edward)
lettie
mae deever (sic)
kate cassidy (state senator john)
2 bro
john
i hope that this my shed some light on all of our searches.
cheers!
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Inez
Our Mary Dever was born in Donegal in 1866 and died in SF in 1925. She is buried with her husband Hugh Dever (1867-1917) at Holy Cross Cemetery in Colma. Her maiden name was McCallion, hence our interest.
It's confusing because there are five Mary Devers buried in Holy Cross. However, I see that there is a James Dever (d. 1915) and a Mary E. Dever (d. 1940) buried together. Are these your ancestors?
Steve Campbell
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dear steve campbell,
it is very confusing and i am still trying to figure it out.
mary riley (aka mae aka may ) married a james h dever in san francisco. i do not have either
of their death dates.
mary was born circa 1864 in california -- not certain if it were a sf birth.
father thomas riley
mother elisa nee fallon
both ireland born.
mr dever was a fire captian in the richmond district, and i believe that he was born in ireland as well.
thank you for your reply!
Inez
Our Mary Dever was born in Donegal in 1866 and died in SF in 1925. She is buried with her husband Hugh Dever (1867-1917) at Holy Cross Cemetery in Colma. Her maiden name was McCallion, hence our interest.
It's confusing because there are five Mary Devers buried in Holy Cross. However, I see that there is a James Dever (d. 1915) and a Mary E. Dever (d. 1940) buried together. Are these your ancestors?
Steve Campbell
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dear steve again,,
it is so sweet that james d 1915 and mary d 1940
are buried together.
it touches my heart very deeply to think that this might be my g-g -aunt
(gggrandmother's sister)
cheers and best wishes.
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Inez
On further investigation, I realized that I had the wrong James & Mary Dever. James H. Dever and Mary E. Dever are buried in Section L, Row 5, Graves 83 & 84. James died on 7/15/1925 and Mary died on 4/23/1934. Also buried there are son Raymond and daughter Romietta. See www.sfgenealogy.com/php/cemetery/cemeteryindex.php to search.
The 1920 San Francisco census shows:
James Dever 63 (b. ~1857, Ireland) Messenger, Wells Fargo (after retirement?)
Mary Dever 55 (b. ~1865, California) Homemaker
Bertrand Dever 30 (b. ~1890, California) Pressman, Newspaper
Raymond Dever 27 (b. ~1887, California) Electrician, Ferry Bld
Constance Dever 24 (b. ~1896, California) Stenographer, Insurance Co
Romeatte Dever 22 (b. ~1898, California) Stenographer, Insurance Co
Steve C.
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steve,
thank you for this info!
these are my relatives!
how did you get the death dates?
and the plots?
this is super exciting. i've got the 1920 census report, and have put some stuff on ancestry dot com,
but it really is hard to track down other stuff.
mary (nee riley) dever's sister tessie josephine riley had my great grandmother gertrude elizabeth,
b 3 may 1888 san francisco, with her first husband -- who he is i cannot find!
oh, what the devers could tell me, and the bradys, and the cassidys.....
the journey is always rewarding when we all cross paths like this.
and i wonder what the mccallion connection is to the sf devers?
thanks heaps!
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Inez
I think that I've found the answer to your question about the father of Gertrude Elizabeth (b. 1888). According to brendanalger who is the owner of the Ehrmann Family Tree on Ancestry.com:
"Theresa had a relationship and produced Gertrude. Theresa later married John Anthony Ehrmann. It is not known if John A. ever adopted Gertrude."
If you're still on Ancestry.com you could send him an e-mail, or if not, I could contact him for you.
Steve C.
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hi steve,
yes , you did find it -- this is our collective family ancestry site!
but... we cannot find gertrude's true dad, tessie's first husband.
so many family secrets! like all families!
mark twain once remarked that he spent 25 dollars to research his family tree,
then he had to spend 50 dollars to cover it up.
but we want to know, and will continue to delve into these mysteries....
cheers!
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Hi Marie
Is the age correct, one can only hope :). I see 2 Daniels born within 8 years of each other born in Meedenmore and both with mothers called Moran (Morrin) ???. Anyway, I think I said before I am sure that the McCallions in and around Meedenmore, Glackmore, Gortnamona and Aught etc all share a common root but finding it is the key.
I am also sure that the Austarlian information is either wrong or incomplete. One indicator is the naming convention. i know it is not the best thing to use but when you look at how these familys use similar christian names for there children you can only wonder. The names Denis, Mary, Bridget, James and Anne keep croping up with almost boring regularity.
Going back to the Australian info, we are of a mind that some of that is wrong. As you well know Irish records are so bad that being able to put that together in the way it is must be called into question. I think it unlikley that whoever put this togther could easliy find links back to any Irish family to the 1600's. I am talking about the Doherty wing of this as the McCallion stuff is pretty certain as I have a copy of Bridget's death cert and it clearly states her parents were Denis McCallion and Mary Sweeney. the rest of whats there however is open to question i.e. where did the information come from the Mary Sweeney was from Milford and she was hired in Iskaheen some where etc.
Anyway onwards and upwards and lets see where this goes. any thoughts on who the other cousins could have been?
Patrick
McCallion was generally changed to Collins in Australia. Pretty sure I'm not related to your Australian McCallion relatives, even though they migrated on the same ship, but like my McCallion ancestors, all records have them as Collins circa 1846.
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Hi, my names Nikki, in Australia. My Irish migrant ancestors were Patrick McCallion (Collins) Born:1793, Died: 3-9-1883. He Married in Fintona Co-Tyrone in 1813 (?) to Rachel Woods, Born 1792, Died 5-7-1878.
They migrated to Australia arriving in May 1841 with 8 children. John B:1819, Patrick B:1821, William B:1822, Phillip B:1826, Thomas B:1829, Peter B:1832, James B:1835, and Roseanne B:1839.
All children on death certificates/headstones and marriage certificates state they were of Fintona, Donacavey, Co-Tyrone.
However there was an Owen McCallion who remained in Ireland with wife Anne Gorman, who migrated to Australia following Owens death in 1854, with their 6 (?) living children.
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Hello Nikki,
Welcome to Rootschat. Well that's a new one on me .... from McCallion to Collins.
You certainly have great information on your direct line from Co. Tyrone. Good luck :)
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Thank you. Seems to be only the migrants to Australia between 1834, and 1846 who migrated as McCallion or Callan and changed to Collins after 1843, or shortly after arrival. It's been interesting trying to find their connections prior to leaving Ireland. They are listed as from Fintona, Donacavey, Co-Tyrone, but being Catholic it has proven extremely difficult to find anything in Ireland prior to their departure.
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I would really like to find anything on Owen who didn't migrate with the rest of the family, but his wife Anne/Annie Gorman migrated with children as Anne Callan shortly after Owens death circa 1854/55 and took the name Collins within a year of arrival. Annies father was a farmer Co-Tyrone, and it is believed Owen McCallion (Collins) was a farmer of the Lough Neagh region.
Owen was either the youngest brother of Patrick McCallion (B:1793 Fintona Co-Tyrone) or he was the eldest son of Patrick and Rachel Woods (B:1792 Co-Tyrone).
Of course have hit a snag, and it is looking that Owen may have been a second given name and not the name recorded for him ....
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Have you posted your information on the Co. Tyrone Board of RootsChat? If not it may be worth your while to do so, you never know someone may guide you to parish records for Fintona.
Good luck.
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I will do that. Just finding my way around this forum (I've avoided forums in general, but have discovered with the genealogy that forums are worth the effort, so I am really a learner driver as far as forum use goes)
Unfortunately the Donacavey Parish records that would give us the best information were mostly destroyed by fire, and there were none of relevance in the few records that did survive the fire. Late 1970's and early 1980's a group of relatives from another branch of the family tree had one of the current at the time Rev.s attempt to discover if any records had been personally kept by church members, and look through the surviving records to no avail at all.
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Hi Marie and Steve
The Australian information has allways been a puzzle to me. What has me puzzled about it is the so called naming convention. My father stuck to this to the letter as did my grandfather McCallion and it would appear other familys at that time. With this in mind why did my ggrandfather call his son James? If the information we have put together is correct Mary Ruddy McCallions father was Denis Ruddy and if the Australian information is correct then Denis McCallion father was also Denis then why call their son James. I do realise that the naming convetion is cannot be relied on 100% but I just wonder
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Hi Patrick and Steve.
Patrick has your brother James only one Christian name? Would it be Dennis James and he got James, just a thought.
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As far as I know he is James Patrick but will check. I don't understand my parents use of middle names i.e my brothers William was William Charles, Denis was Denis Anthony don't know about the others.
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Patrick
Ah, this clarifies a lot for me. I see that Mary Dever and Hugh Dever are buried in the same plot at Holy Cross cemetery in Colma.
If Mary Dever and Ann Campbell were first cousins, then their fathers Denis (b. 1833) and Michael (born about the same time) would have to be brothers and have the same father.
I got the impression that Michael's father was James McCallion (b. ~1799) but that now seems unlikely since the only James McCallion in Tithe Applotment 1837 & Griffiths 1851 lived in Iskaheen, not Three Trees. There is also a question whether Denis' father was Denis (b. ~1800).
In the Tithe Applotment 1837, there are the following entries for Three Trees:
Denis McCallion
Denis McCallion
Hugh McCallion
William McCallion
This seems to suggest that there were two Denis McCallions (not sure if this is true). At any rate all were presumably born in the early 1800's and any of them could have been fathers of Denis and Michael (except Hugh probably).
We know that Hugh was from Gortnamona and Marie & Dennis Reilly are in his line. It seems possible that there is some confusion between the Denis who married Mary Sweeney and was the father of Bridget McAllen and the other Denis who may have been the father of Denis & maybe Michael. There's also William Campbell who I don't have any information about.
What do you think?
Steve C.
I'm interested in Dennis Reilly can u tell me more ???
Thanks,
Fran
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Hi Fran,
Dennis Reilly and I are related. My great grandfather Michael McCallion and Dennis' great grandfather Denis McCallion are brothers, both form in Gortnamonagh, Three Trees.
Marie
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Thanks for your reply Maree.
Just seen the name Dennis Reilly and thought who knows might be who I'm looking for!
The person I'm looking for a Dennis Reilly who may of came form Tipperary? His son Daniel arrives in Australia in 1879 all we know is his name no more a real brick wall!
Fran ???
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Veronica
My understanding is that Denis McCallion (1805-1882) & Mary Sweeney (1812-?) had at least three children (maybe more that I don't know about):
Denis McCallion (1833 – 1914)
Bridget McAllen (1834 – 1924)
Ann McCallion (1842 – ?)
Bridget (McCallion) McAllen married Edward Doherty (1816 – 1881). According to the Alexander Penrice Stuart family tree in Ancestry.com, Bridget & Edward had these children:
James (1854-1911)
Mary (1856-1895)
Ellen (1858-1859)
Edward (1862-1938)
Eliza Jane (1864-1936)
Elizabeth (1867-1867)
Catherine (1868-1949)
William Alfred (1870-1951)
Agnes Cecilla (1888-1958)
So, it looks to me as though you have a common ancestor with Patrick & Keith in Denis McCallion & Mary Sweeney.
Steve C.
Hello Steve,
I've just read your post ..... and this is really just a stab in the dark ..... but I am wondering if you have any further info on the Denis (1833 -1914) you mention. The reason I ask is that I have just uncovered that my g g granny was Mary McCallion and she married Dimlick McDaid. Mary McCallions parents were Denis McCallion and Biddy Hargan. Their children were Biddy, Mary, Patrick, Anne and James. If this is the same Denis as you have listed 2 of his daughters could have been named after his sisters. As I say I'm just wondering. Look forward to hearing from you.
Margaret
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Hi Patrick,
Do you have the Revision Books for your McCallion's?
Marie
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Hi Patrick,
Do you have the Revision Books for your McCallion's?
Marie
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It's been so long since I have been here I forgot how to use this ;D ???. I have the revision books for the McCallions of Meedenmore. Sorry about the p.m made a mess of replying. It's an age thing ??? ;D
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Hello, I know I am a bit late in joining this thread. I too am researching my McCallion (Campbell) ancestors from Inishowen. I do have living family (Campbells) in Northern Ireland/Donegal who are descendants of the McCallions. I am having difficulty getting past my great grandfather, James McCallion born abt. 1895. I would be over the mood to get some clarification, information, because despite having family in the area, very little is known. I am in England, and not an experienced researcher, yet. I have done the ancestry DNA test recently, and there are many DNA matches in the Inishowen, Buncrana areas, the names Campbell, McCallion, McLaughlin being arising. Most of my DNA matches are now in USA. I suppose my first question is, has anyone else done the DNA test, perhaps this way a clear link could be established. Any help would be appreciated. Many thanks. It would be great to find some family connections. Wendy
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Hello Wendy and welcome to Rootschat.
I have done the DNA autosomal test. My number is A851049. Do you know where your James came from? If you give us as much info on your McCallion family, I am sure we can help you.
Marie
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Hi Marie
Thanks for getting back to so quickly. I am not entirely sure without looking it up again where my grandfather (who used both McCallion and Campbell names) was born, but he was buried in Cockhill Cemetary, Buncrana, as was his father James. I understand there are roots in/around this area, how far back, I don't know. I have looked at the 'find a grave' website and the earliest dated Campbell headstone is 1860s. There are also many McCallions. As I understand it, both my g'father and gg'father were born McCallions and buried as Campbells?? I did not meet either. A lot of my searching otherwise is simply guesswork. My DNA is with Ancestry, the number you gave I am not familiar with, so presumably a different company. I have noticed many of my DNA matches have ancestors in the Inishowen area, Illies, Buncrana, Clonmany and Londonderry. I presume there is a link to the ancestors in their trees, as the same names come up in different trees. It is fascinating.
It is not easy when looking for either/or names. My gf, ggf and 2 xggf were all named James. My gf married a Doyle from Buncrana and my ggf married an o'Kane from Drumsurn (I have been informed) but I cant find her either. In truth I am having trouble getting this search off the ground.
Any help or guidance would be very much appreciated.
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Hi Wendy,
The number I gave you is my Ancestry DNA number, you said you did your DNA, then you would have a similar six figure number. Have you uploaded your raw DNA to Gedmatch? If you give me your Ancestry # I will check to see if we have a DNA match.
I found a marriage for James McCallion and Mary Ann O'Kane in Drumsurn Jan, 1916.
Take trees on Ancestry with a pinch of salt, loads of errors. You need the paper trail to confirm your ancestors. So the more info you can give me the better.
Marie
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Marie. Thank you for that information. You will have to forgive me, I am new to this research and DNA. My Ancestry name is WCI. I have had a look and can't find 6 figure number, perhaps you can point me in the right direction. I will also look into gedmatch now.
Wendy
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Wendy,
When you purchased your DNA kit, there would of been an number allocated to that kit. When you sent off your kit to Ancestry this number would identify the sender. Have you checked the box your kit came in? A letter followed by a six figure number.
Marie
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Marie. I think i've done it, just uploaded raw data to gedmatch. (A820706) - haven't worked out how to use it yet though. Wendy
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No match on DNA.
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I saw that, thats a shame. Have you had many matches/success from gedmatch, i'm not fully uploaded yet.
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Yes, I believe it's the way forward. I find you definitely need paperwork to prove you are the right family. Loads of people do not put up a family tree or go private. Can't for the life of me know why they spend money on a kit and close off access.
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Hello Wendy and welcome to Rootschat.
I have done the DNA autosomal test. My number is A851049. Do you know where your James came from? If you give us as much info on your McCallion family, I am sure we can help you.
Marie
Marie
Having read your posts over the years I've often wondered if we were related in any way. I put my DNA on GEDmatch...A276160...and lo and behold we have a distant connection ;D
"Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 4.9"
My great great grandmother was a Catherine McCallion (abt 1815 - 1897) who married a Michael Devlin of Foffenagh (Rock). That's probably not the connection but it is interesting. We don't know anything about Catherine despite looking.
mab
Added: You are a match for me on Ancestry too...well that is interesting ;D It's says our matches are Bradley, McCallion and Murphy.
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Hi mab,
Thanks for connecting. My Murphy line is Co. Clare. I have double Bradley's from the Parish of Iskaheen and my McCallion line is from there too. Catherine is a name that comes down my McCallion line in the past three generations!
Marie
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I don't know where my Murphys come from in Ireland. They are in Much Woolton Lancashire in the 1861 census. My great grandmother Annie Murphy was born there, emigrated to Philadelphia, married a McBride from Doaghmore, Fanett and died in Philadelphia in 1890. Their daughter was sent back to Donegal to be raised by McBride family members, went to Glasgow eventually and married a Bradley from Meenamullaghan ::)
mab
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Hi Folks
Been a while since I was back on Rootschat I just wanted to say Wendy we are distantly related on Gedmatch also at MRCA=4.3. WCI your kit number cannot be found
Patrick