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Title: Miller Andrews*completed*
Post by: myshell007 on Thursday 06 November 08 07:43 GMT (UK)
Looking for Daniel Craig Miller Andrews, Death cert says he came to NZ when he was 10, born 1888 Scotland looking for parents and siblings.
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Thursday 06 November 08 21:09 GMT (UK)

hi everyone is it unlocked now, I was looking around andtouched something I should not sorry, please try again. Michelle. :-[
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 06 November 08 22:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Michelle

(Thought it must have been accidental    :D )

So ... his parents names are not on death cert ?   (Is that correct) ?

(And  ...  he married  Jean DUNN - 1916 (Folio # 4569) - do you have the marriage cert ?)

Lu
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 06 November 08 22:43 GMT (UK)

 ....   Archives New Zealand have 3 records for Daniel Craig Miller ANDREWS :

*    Military file - held at Wellington .  (Have checked cenotaph database (at Auckland) but there is no listing for Daniel which might have shown his next-of-kin).

*    Archives NZ (Dunedin) have files for insolvency, and  bankruptcy (1959, where he is listed as a "war pensioner).

http://www.archives.govt.nz/


Lu
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 06 November 08 22:57 GMT (UK)
 ....   the passenger list index at

http://www.findmypast.com/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action?redef=0

shows a "Daniel ANDREWS" - Liverpool to Wellington, NZ - 1909    ???

Can't see anything on this index which suggests a family group "ANDREWS", arriving circa 1898 ?

Lu

Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Friday 07 November 08 00:53 GMT (UK)
Looking on indexes there seems alot of MILLER ANDREWS as eith er Miller a first or middlename..do you have any idea of siblings names, or do you want some of these posted to see if they could be possibilities.

Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 07 November 08 01:17 GMT (UK)

  ... just spotted also, Archives NZ (Dunedin), a bankruptcy file for a "Donald Craig Miller ANDREWS - Dunedin - merchant - 1945".

Can't find burial or any further info for a "Donald" - (possible the Donald shown (Archives), is in fact Daniel ).    ???

Lu
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Friday 07 November 08 01:44 GMT (UK)
There are some Donald Craigs, including one who died 2007 Lower Hutt
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Friday 07 November 08 02:55 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone helping, I have checked that shipping list mentioned and I think it said a four year old Daniel in 1909.
 I actually found the military and bankrupts records the other day and are writing to get copies  A printout over the net would do but the NZ govt does not have that available as yet.

The Death certificate says he was 60 years in NZ, and died at the age of 70, his parents were John Andrews and Martha Andrews(Galbraith), it said he came from Johnson Scotland?, maybe they meant Johnstone, either way its a mystery. I don't have his marriage cert yet.

His male children are Daniel David Miller(Galbraith) Andrews,  I have seen Galbraith mentioned only once in connection with this name and it was in family records, unfortunately they were compiled a while ago and I have a copy of a copy  and have no Idea where it originated from expect it came from the Dunns.Samuel Galbraith Miller Andrews.
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 07 November 08 03:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Michelle

... found this on Dunedin cemeteries database :

John James Miller ANDREWS - died 1971, aged 72 years (born NZ - 1899).     ???

Lu
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 07 November 08 03:28 GMT (UK)
Hi again Michelle


I have checked that shipping list mentioned and I think it said a four year old Daniel in 1909.


Mmm ... alongside the Daniel who is listed, it says date of birth "unknown" ?

BUT   ... I wonder if this might be the family.     ???

If you search (surname ANDREWS) again at "findmypast", and enter "year - 1909 / place of departure - Liverpool / destination New Zealand - port of Wellington", it throws up this group ...

ANDREWS - Annie / Daniel / David / Janet / John / Martha / Mary / Samuel :

(You'd obviously need to view the full record to establish if they are all from same family) ?

Lu
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 07 November 08 03:47 GMT (UK)

Aah !    :)     This might answer a few questions ?

From Dunedin cemeteries database   ...

ANDREWS - Samuel G.M. - died 1960 (Born Scotland c. 1896 - arrived NZ c. 1909)     ???

(There is also a record for (another) Samuel Galbraith Miller ANDREWS shown).

http://www.dunedin.govt.nz/facilities/cemeteries/cemeteries_search

Lu
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 07 November 08 04:32 GMT (UK)

...  at Archives NZ (Christchurch), this looks like the probate record for "Samuel G.M." .

ANDREWS - Samuel Galbraith M. - Retired baker - 1960 :

Also ... Archives NZ (Wellington) - military file for

ANDREWS - Samuel Galbraith - 1914-1918

and,  from cenotaph database - "Mrs Martha ANDREWS (Mother) 420 Cumberland Street, Dunedin" listed as next-of-kin for Samuel Galbraith ANDREWS :

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/general/basicsearch.aspx?Dataset=cenotaph


Lu
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Mk2_Zephyr on Friday 07 November 08 04:39 GMT (UK)

great work Lucy


and there are definitely some spelling mistakes in the Archway (NZ Archive) indexes.

Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Friday 07 November 08 05:08 GMT (UK)
Martha Miller Andrew
died 16 Aug 1936
Reference number
12657
Occupation
widow
Residence
7 Hall Street Wellington
buried Anderson Bay Dunedin

Samuel Galbraith Miller Andrew
6 Apr 1987
Reference number
28240
Occupation
A retired wages clerk
Residence
29 Hislop Street Dunedin
Age
67 years

Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Friday 07 November 08 05:56 GMT (UK)
Hi again,
 now that I have had a look at the Dunedin cemetary records and found a few names the ships list makes more sense.   :D
 I had  had a look at it before but dismissed it because they are under English and not Scottish passengers, and I was unfamilar with all the names. :) 
 Also had a look at Samuels  military records, but found no Daniel as yet.

Marthas burial record just gave me another question... Native of NA ? tell me it is something simple Michelle.  ???
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Friday 07 November 08 06:07 GMT (UK)
From the NZ Marriages Index 1836-1956

Hope this helps:

Year   1938 Folio 13445
Surname   ANDREWS
Given Names   Daniel David Miller
Spouse   BALLANTYNE
Given Names   Hazel Gwendoline

Year   1947 Folio   03312
Surname   ANDREWS
Given Names   Daniel David Miller
Spouse   WILLIAMS
Given Names   Nita

Year   1920 Folio   07685
Surname   ANDREWS
Given Names   Samuel Galbaith Millar
Spouse   SUTTON
Given Names   Agnes Frances
   
Year   1946 Folio   00276
Surname   ANDREWS
Given Names   Samuel Galbraith Miller
Spouse   SMITH
Given Names   Christina May

KHP :)
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Friday 07 November 08 06:30 GMT (UK)
That's great thank you, they will help a lot as I only had one name to start with. :)

Some of the other names on that shipping list were John, Mary, David Janet and Annie, if I may be so bold to add them to the mix. :-*
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Friday 07 November 08 06:39 GMT (UK)
Managed to find Annie:

Year   1944 Folio   05011
Surname   ANDREWS
Given Names   Annie Calderhead Miller
Spouse   BYRON
Given Names   George

KHP :)
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Friday 07 November 08 07:04 GMT (UK)
Two more

Year   1939 Folio   06049
Surname ANDREWS
Given Names   Martha Millar
Spouse   HOUGHTON
Given Names   Laurence Douglas Livingston

Year   1956 Folio   01859
Surname   ANDREWS
Given Names   Joan Miller
Spouse   TAYLOR
Given Names   Peter Joseph

Added this one ... could be a connection


KHP :)
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 07 November 08 22:04 GMT (UK)

Martha Miller Andrew
died 16 Aug 1936
Reference number
12657
Occupation
widow
Residence
7 Hall Street Wellington
buried Anderson Bay Dunedin


Good work Althea.   :)       I'd looked earlier at this Martha on Dunedin cems. database and thought .... nah .... too young to be the mother of Daniel (b. 1888) ?     

So, this Martha M. ANDREWS is buried (same plot - Andersons Bay Cemetery) with John ANDREWS  .... and they appear to be the parents of Daniel.
(A note on John ANDREW's record says - Years in NZ - 20  ... arrived around 1907) ?

Lu


Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 07 November 08 22:16 GMT (UK)
Michelle

  ...    another marriage

May * Galbraith Miller ANDREWS
Robert Rees DONE
Year - 1920    (Folio # 07614)

[*May ... this seems to be an error on the index and perhaps should read as "Mary"   ... unless of course the name "May" was used as a diminutive for "Mary" ] ?

Lu

Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 07 November 08 22:25 GMT (UK)

  ...   cemetery record for May / Mary can be viewed at

http://www.purewa.co.nz/


Mary Galbraith Miller DONE - (no age stated)

Cremation service at Purewa Cemetery, Auckland - 8 September 1964 :

[Archives NZ (Auckland) hold a probate file for Mary (1964)
... there is also one for "Robert Reece (sic) DONE - retired - 1965] :

Lu

Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 07 November 08 22:37 GMT (UK)
Michelle

   .... have some more info coming for you re: Daniel's siblings.

I need to view Dunedin cemeteries database again  ... but the website has just posted a notice to say it is undergoing 'maintenance'     .... drat !   :D   :D

Will get back to you shortly.

Lu


Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 07 November 08 22:42 GMT (UK)

Marthas burial record just gave me another question... Native of NA ? tell me it is something simple Michelle. ???


 ???     ...  just a guess  ...  "N/A"  usually stands for "not applicable"   (perhaps "place of birth" details were not available to person/persons compiling the online records).   ???

Lu
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Friday 07 November 08 23:32 GMT (UK)
Hi and thank you for the NA, I thought it may have some vague reference to a location or something.

Have had a look at the archives, thank you and will have to send away for more info.

The Mary at Purewa must be mine how many people would give their children such a name.

looking forward to next installment. Michelle.

Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 08 November 08 09:29 GMT (UK)
Martha Galbraith Miller ANDREWS

Not sure where she fits into the overall picture?    Seems to have been born c. 1916 - maybe she's a daughter of Daniel ?
[Possible though that she could be a child of Martha and John]?

She comes though, with a "bit of history".    ;D

(Note:  All spellings here, are as they appear on the various indexes)

Marriage 1

Martha Millar ANDREWS
Laurence Douglas Livingston HOUGHTON
Year - 1939  (Folio # 06049)

(Laurence Douglas Livingstone HOUGHTON - died WW2 aged 24 - 5 March 1942 - buried Greece.   Further details appear on Auckland Museum Cenotaph database and Commonwealth War Graves Commission website) :

Marriage 2

Martha Galbraith Millar HOUGHTON
Albert John McGee GUYTON
Year - 1942  (Folio # 10953)

Divorce :  Albert John McGee GUYTON & Martha Galbraith GUYTON - 1953 (viewing restriction on divorce file - details at Archives NZ Dunedin office) :

Marriage 3

Martha Galbraith Miller ANDREWS*  (* also on Marriage Index as GUYTON)
Ronald GUYTON  (yes, GUYTON  ... again)  :D
Year - 1954    (Folio # 15495)

Divorce :    Ronald GUYTON & Martha Galbraith GUYTON - 1966 (ex Greymouth High Court - viewing restriction on divorce file - record at Archives NZ Christchurch office) :

Dunedin Cemeteries Database

GUYTON - Martha - died 1971 aged 55 years (cremation) :
                             ----------------------------

Lu

Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Saturday 08 November 08 09:37 GMT (UK)
This family got awfully modern very quickly didn't they. Divorces all over the place.
I wonder what the others were up to. 8)
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 08 November 08 09:43 GMT (UK)

This family got awfully modern very quickly didn't they. Divorces all over the place.
I wonder what the others were up to. 8)


 :D    Aw  ... c'mon ... ya need a bit of excitement in a family.    :D

(Martha G.M.   ... widowed - then looks like the GUYTON husbands could have been related) ?

Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Saturday 08 November 08 09:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Lu, If she was born in 1915 she may be Daniels daughter. He also had Daniel David Miller 1916, Samuel Galbraith Miller 1919 and June 1921.

You are right about it being more interesting, no wonder they never talked about things back then.

Ta Michelle.
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 08 November 08 09:56 GMT (UK)
Annie Calderhead Miller ANDREWS

[Marriage to George BYRON - 1944 (Folio # 05011) ] :

From Dunedin Cemeteries database  - cemetery record for :

Anne Cauldhead BYRON - died 29 May 1989 - aged 83 years (b.c. 1906) - cremation :

You'll see there are two records for her - one gives a plot number at Anderson's Bay cemetery;   the other record states "Ashes - family plot interment - 2 June 1989" - but the plot number doesn't relate to the other ANDREWS (or BYRON) family burials ?    Perhaps you can email Dunedin and see if they can tell you who else is in the family plot which Annie shares ? 

Lu

Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Saturday 08 November 08 10:13 GMT (UK)
Hi  Lu, all I get for the Dunedin cemetery is "server not found- try again". It may have to wait until tomorrow. :( Michelle.
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 08 November 08 10:21 GMT (UK)

You are right about it being more interesting, no wonder they never talked about things back then.


Yeah  ... and don't you think they'd all be a bit peeved, if they knew that all these years later, we were digging up all this "stuff " on them ?      :o     :D


Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Saturday 08 November 08 10:28 GMT (UK)
   Maybe they would care about being remembered and not stress the little stuff. And more to the point what will our ancestors think about us.  :-X ::) Michelle.
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 08 November 08 10:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Michelle

Dunedin Cemeteries site seems to be working OK now - (they'd been off line most of the afternoon due to maintenance ).

Still haven't found the "David" and "Janet" (children of John and Martha) yet.  There's one possibility for Janet - so will keep looking.

Lu
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Saturday 08 November 08 10:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Lu, not on my server yet still uncontactable. Michelle.
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 08 November 08 10:58 GMT (UK)

  ... Mmmm ... ah well, perhaps try again tomorrow.    ;)

Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Saturday 08 November 08 19:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Just something else to throw into the ring
Apologies if already posted

There is one pre 1900 mention of MILLER in Andrews surnames

EMMA MILLER ANDREWS 1893 ERoll Waitaki, Makikihi (she marries 1904 to WESTPHALL)
Could be her parents at same electorate address
Emma, Married Woman
James

Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 08 November 08 20:38 GMT (UK)

The Death certificate says he was 60 years in NZ, and died at the age of 70, his parents were John Andrews and Martha Andrews(Galbraith), it said he came from Johnson Scotland?, maybe they meant Johnstone, either way its a mystery. I don't have his marriage cert yet.


Just throwing these in the "pot" too.    :)

(Extracted) entries from the IGI (familysearch.org) :

Annie Calderhead ANDREWS
b.  19 May 1874
Hamilton, Lanark, SCOTLAND
Parents -  John ANDREWS and Mary MILLAR

and

Daniel Craig Miller ANDREWS
b.  18 February 1873
Hamilton, Lanark, SCO
Parents -  John ANDREWS and Mary MILLER

So  ... are these the brother and sister of John ANDREWS (father of "your" Daniel)     ???

[Couldn't find a birth or marriage entry for John ANDREWS.]

Lu
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 08 November 08 20:53 GMT (UK)

 ...  a link to Johnstone, Scotland.

http://uk.epodunk.com/profiles/scotland/johnstone/3001302.html

Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Saturday 08 November 08 22:14 GMT (UK)
GenesReunited has a researcher with that family mentioned by Lu 2 posters back..I have no credits so can't reply to them direct. They also Have a JOHN ANDREWS b 1870 SCT
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Saturday 08 November 08 22:36 GMT (UK)

Whoopee Althea !    :)    That looks promising.

(Sorry, I can't help either, with "GenesReunited").

Lu
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Saturday 08 November 08 23:51 GMT (UK)

Whoopee Althea ! :) That looks promising.

(Sorry, I can't help either, with "GenesReunited").

Lu

I have membership ..... if it will be a help
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Sunday 09 November 08 09:09 GMT (UK)
Have sent the researcher a reply .... will let you know when  a reply has come back.


KHP
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Sunday 09 November 08 09:36 GMT (UK)
Thank you for that KHP, it sounds like it could be very usefull.

Lucy I still had trouble with that connection to Dunedin cemetery today (even if you winked at me) so I went through the city site instead and got through, hopefully they will get back to me with that info. Michelle ;)
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 09 November 08 10:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Michelle

Glad you managed to get onto Dunedin cemeteries site  ... (and you're a clever girl for taking the other option).   :)
[Have to admit, that site can at times, be a bit dodgy to hook up to ... I've got two separate links to it, just in case there are problems].

But some good news   ...  I'm pretty sure I've found the missing child "Janet" (who appeared with Daniel and family on the passenger list).

From NZ Marriage Index

Jennet McGregor Millar ANDREWS
Albert HERUM
Year - 1933    (Folio # 06376)

From Archives New Zealand (Dunedin office)

Divorce :   (Shouldn't surprise ... huh ?)    ;D

Jennet McGregor Millar HERUM v. Albert Lui HERUM - 1939 - 1940 :

  (continued)   >>>>>




Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 09 November 08 10:56 GMT (UK)
("Janet" / Jennet .. cont'd)  >>

Marriage  #  2

Jennet Millar
HERUM
James Kent ROBERTSON
Year - 1940   (Folio # 11543)

From Dunedin Cemeteries database

Anderson's Bay Cemetery - Block 196   Plot 62

HERUM - Margarita Louise Jean - 47 years, spinster - died 6 April 1982 :
(Born c. 1935 - I am guessing that this is the daughter of Jennet and Albert Lui HERUM) ?

ROBERTSON - James Kent - 47 years - died 3 June 1954 :
(Presumably husband # 2 of Jennet) ?

ROBERTSON - Jeannette McGregor - 62 years - died 9 November 1970 - Widow :
(Born c. 1908.   The online cemetery record however, states "Native of New Zealand" (62 years)  .... but we well know that all sorts of errors appear on death records) ?

   (continued)  ...   >>>
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Sunday 09 November 08 11:05 GMT (UK)
That great about Jennet, and her many husbands, but did you notice what the Block and Plot no is.  8)
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 09 November 08 11:14 GMT (UK)
("Janet" / Jennet / Jeannette  .. cont'd)   >>

AND  ... the mystery of the "family plot" is NOW SOLVED !

Annie Calderhead Miller ANDREWS


From Dunedin Cemeteries database  - cemetery record for :

Anne Cauldhead BYRON - died 29 May 1989 - aged 83 years (b.c. 1906) - cremation :

You'll see there are two records for her - one gives a plot number at Anderson's Bay cemetery;   the other record states "Ashes - family plot interment - 2 June 1989" - but the plot number doesn't relate to the other ANDREWS (or BYRON) family burials ?    Perhaps you can email Dunedin and see if they can tell you who else is in the family plot which Annie shares ?



Anne Caulhead BYRON
 (Annie Calderhead ANDREWS)

-  her ashes are interred -

Anderson's Bay Cemetery - Block 196   Plot 62

with  ...
Margarita HERUM, James Kent ROBERTSON and Jeannette McGregor ROBERTSON  (Jennet Millar ROBERTSON formerly Jennet McGregor Millar HERUM  ... nee ANDREWS).  Whew !

Hope all that makes sense.    ???

Even though there are apparent errors with various spellings of her name, I think this is most likely "Janet" .

Lu
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 09 November 08 11:19 GMT (UK)

That great about Jennet, and her many husbands, but did you notice what the Block and Plot no is. 8)


 :D    :D    :D     Yip !     Of course I did !     

(  ...  I lost the post, halfway through typing it  .. and had to start over again  ... hence the delay).

Still can't find the boy named "David" though.   

Lu
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Sunday 09 November 08 11:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Lucy, I thought you had left it there for me to find,  :) I did look twice at the number to make sure I was seeing correctly and not going crosseyed.
A great find for you ! ;D

I had a little look for those two Andrews from Lanark and found only what you
did, even on the IGI it is the same. ???
Michelle.
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 09 November 08 11:57 GMT (UK)

Hi Lucy, I thought you had left it there for me to find, :)


 :D   [Nah, nah ... it's the wee hours of Monday morning here ... I tend to hit all the wrong buttons and things when I'm half asleep.]

Mmm ... yes, probably not much more info to be had from IGI ?

Let's hope though that contact can be established with the "GenesReunited"  person.    :)

Lu
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 11 November 08 19:03 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

Have had a reply from "GR".    My question to the researcher was "Do they have any Daniel Craig Miller Andrews that came to NZ in their tree  ... and did he have a brother John who also came to NZ ...... and that I was helping a descendant who could be a possible link"

This is the reply:

Yes and yes so hopefully you can solve one of my problems. My gran was Annie Calderhead Andrews daughter of John Andrews and Mary Miller. She had brothers John Daniel and David. David I have. He worked and died in Edinburgh. Daniel and John vanished from Scottish records. Daniel was born 1872/1873 in Hamilton Scotland and John on 13/12/1869 in West Calder then part of Midlothian. Their parents died young and they were brought up by Grandfather David Miller.

I have been invited to look at the tree.   So the next step - would you like me to invite the researcher to rootschat or Michelle pm's me her email address and I pass it on.
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Tuesday 11 November 08 19:21 GMT (UK)
Great news, lets hope Michelle checks back soon.

You could always let the researcher know about this thread, what do you think, then they can join in if they want  ;D
Thanks for doing that, Kiwihalpint
Althea  8)
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 11 November 08 19:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Althea,

No problems at all ....

Will send a reply to the researcher about the thread and the results you guys have uncovered.

Cheers
KHP :D
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Tuesday 11 November 08 21:48 GMT (UK)
Hi KHP,

 At the moment I think I will not give out my email address, if you don't mind and just keep using this chat line for any contact with this other researcher.  :-\

But it sounds like they are the same people and it would be great if they slotted in.  :D

Michelle
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 11 November 08 21:49 GMT (UK)
Hi All

Yes, good work by KHP in providing the link to the other researcher.

Althea's thought, about inviting the researcher to join in this thread, is an excellent idea    :)  ... that way, all the info can be brought together in one place and there is scope to "iron out" any " inconsistencies" ?

[At the moment I'm a little puzzled that Daniel's death cert. and the cenotaph record for Samuel G.M., record their mother as "Martha ANDREWS"  ... but yes, should wait for further info (and sources) to be provided (hopefully) by the other family researcher)  ;)

Lu



Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 11 November 08 22:27 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Have given the researcher this thread, so hopefully they will join in, and see what results have been posted.   

Cheers
KHP :)
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: sheena23 on Wednesday 12 November 08 13:55 GMT (UK)
Hi
I'm the researcher mentioned. I have Daniel born 1873 in Hamilton's birth certificate. Not difficult as I still live there. My gran Annie Calderhead Andrews was also born in Hamilton.  Their parents were John Andrews and Mary Miller. Mary was the daughter of David Miller and Annie Calderhead. Annie died after 1851 and David remarried Janet Erskine. He was the son of Daniel Miller and Mary Faulds from Whitburn in Lanarkshire.  Annie was fron Shotts in Lanarkshire. I have the family in census records to 1891. But in the 1901 census could only find Annie and David and no death certificates.
So I assumed Daniel and John had moved somewhere else probably when their grandfather David died in 1897.
I have no records with the name Galbraith although there are other Daniel Millers in the area as the   Scottish naming convention means cousins have same name.
Hope this helps
Jean
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Wednesday 12 November 08 17:49 GMT (UK)
Welcome Jean  ;D
The naming customs to cousins is interesting
So the Annie Calderheads we have in NZ could be fitting into this line somewhere do you think??
So does it look like this is def another family

Sadly it doesn't look like a direct link...but maybe somewhere
Maybe we some posts to scottish board -  to find this family who arrived 1909. Are they considered the best match for the original posting???
 
 
     

 
Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960
 
Name: Daniel ANDREWS
Date of departure: 6 February 1909
Port of departure: Liverpool
Destination port: Wellington 
Destination country: New Zealand 
 
Date of Birth: 
Age: 
Marital Status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: 
Notes: 
Passenger recorded on: Page 2 of 4 

~~~~~~~~
 
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: - 
 Annie ANDREWS 
 
 David ANDREWS 
 
 Janet ANDREWS 
 
 John ANDREWS 
 
 Martha ANDREWS 
 
 Mary ANDREWS 
 
 Samuel ANDREWS 
 

~~~~~~~~
 
Ship: LANGTON GRANGE
Official Number: 105831
Master's name: F A Graves
Steamship Line: Federal Houlder Shire Lines
Where bound: Port Chalmers, New Zealand 
Square feet: 
Registered tonnage: 3828
Passengers on voyage: 57
 
 
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: sheena23 on Thursday 13 November 08 22:02 GMT (UK)
Great news.
I've located John Andrews in the 1901 census. Clue was Johnstone as mentioned here.
He was living at 22 Russell Street Johnstone. He was 30 and a gatekeeper storeman. Married to Martha who was 28. He was my gran's brother, born in West Calder and Daniel Craig Miller Andrews brother. Martha was a British subject born in India. Children were Daniel aged 7 born Coatbridge. Samuel aged 5 born in Howwood, John aged 2 born Johnstone and Mary aged 5months also born Johnstone. How much information would you like about John's ancestors?
Jean
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 13 November 08 22:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

Welcome to Rootschat .... glad to see you have connected.

Cheers
KHP :)

PS :  Interesting mention about the "Galbraith" as I have that name for middle names in my tree ;D
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Thursday 13 November 08 22:43 GMT (UK)
Hi to everyone and especially to Jean our new help. :D

John  and Martha's departure from Liverpool and arrival in NZealand were  as far as we had gone back, so any information you have would be fantastic. As much as you can give me. ;D ;D :-*

British subject born in India, makes it even more interesting, a million and one questions spring to mind. :o

Michelle
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Friday 14 November 08 00:35 GMT (UK)
Great work Jean  ;D
Well MIchelle, you should be right now, lots to catch up on
The good things for genealogist, that means usually just the start to many more ???

Best of luck
Althea
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Friday 14 November 08 03:53 GMT (UK)
Thank you to all who got involved and helped us get this far.

KHP  ;D  ;D  8)  :-*

athea  ;D  ;D  8)  :-*

Lucy2  ;D  ;D  8)  :-*

Mk-Zephyr  ;D  ;D 8)  :-*

What a great team, hope to need your help some time soon.

Michelle

Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: sheena23 on Saturday 15 November 08 10:31 GMT (UK)
Have now located John's marriage certificate. They were married on 13th December 1892 (registered 1893) in Bowfield Renfrewshire. John list his parents as John Andrews Millar and Mary Millar and signs as John Millar which is why I've been searching so long! This is not illegal over here. I've checked 2 of the children so far. They were also registered with the surname Millar. I've information going back to 1800. May be easiest if you log on to GenesReunited and ask for permission to see my family tree.
let me know how you would like the information.
Jean
Title: Re: Miller Andrews
Post by: myshell007 on Saturday 15 November 08 11:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean I haven't been to geansreunited yet so I had a quick look. 

Just where do I go to request a look at your family tree, the only way in I found was registration, or a feedback line. I'm sure it is something simple I've missed, please point me in the right direction.   ???
Michelle
Title: Re: Miller Andrews*completed*
Post by: myshell007 on Monday 01 December 08 23:06 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

 Once this line had been wrapped up and I was in contact with GenesReunited I realized that  nothing had been  found for David, that came over with his family on the ship from Liverpool to NZ. 

Could I throw his name back into the arena please.

There is nothing in the Dunedin cemetery for him which is the first place to look for this family.

Is there any other records for him :)

Michelle
Title: Re: Miller Andrews*completed*
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 02 December 08 00:08 GMT (UK)
Hi again Michelle

I think we all had a pretty good look for records for this David earlier in the search, but it's still possible that he's hiding under plain old "David ANDREWS" ??

Do you have his full name   ... from the latest information you've found on this family?     (i.e. does "Miller / Millar" feature as one of his christian names)  ?

Do you have a record of his birth in Scotland ?   

Lu
Title: Re: Miller Andrews*completed*
Post by: myshell007 on Tuesday 02 December 08 10:12 GMT (UK)
hi Lu

All I got from GenesReunited was an approximation date of birth of 1903.

All the other siblings have miller in their name though.

Daniel his brother's birth was recorded as Daniel Craig Millar,  no Andrews at all, so they are hard to find.  :(

Nothing for David as yet.

Michelle


Title: Re: Miller Andrews*completed*
Post by: ceecee93 on Wednesday 06 December 17 01:16 GMT (UK)
Hello Michelle
i was just wondering if you found anymore information on Jeanette's side?

thanks
Title: Re: Miller Andrews*completed*
Post by: sarah on Thursday 04 June 20 11:39 BST (UK)
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Albert and Ronald Guyton are brothers, my father's first cousins.

posted on behalf of amberlee who clicked on the report to moderator button instead of the reply button.

Regards

Sarah