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Title: Baileys Piece Highworth - any idea?
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 11 November 08 15:06 GMT (UK)
I have info from the 1861 census Highworth that shows address as Baileys Piece. 
I am sure I have seen this on a road sign at Highworth itself but I can't find it again.
Note the family did live in Highworth itself not just the district of.

By chance does anyone local know where it is/was?

Many thanks  :)
Title: Re: Baileys Piece Highworth - any idea?
Post by: moggygems on Tuesday 11 November 08 19:50 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have found Baileys Piece on a map. Go to http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.htm type in Highworth, Berkshire and the co-ordinates 420400.192300. Then click GO next to the co-ordinates. Zoom in using the zoom in slider to the 2nd from top notch and you should see Bailey's Piece Cottages.

I do not know if they are still about today.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Baileys Piece Highworth - any idea?
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 12 November 08 14:19 GMT (UK)
Brilliant!  Thank you so much moggygems  :)

I will be sure and have a look round that area next time I'm out that way.
Title: Re: Baileys Piece Highworth - any idea?
Post by: leshigginsq1 on Monday 03 January 11 01:09 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I've only just started on this site but I know a little about Baileys Piece - and Baileys Piece Cottages. My family (Higgins) lived in some of these cottages during much of the 19th century.

Baileys Piece is actually a plot of land nestled up against Westrop and Redhouse. It is shown on very early maps circa 1600.

The cottages were a row running from Brewery Street down to the top of Baileys Piece.

There are no extant records or photographs that I know of. I have tried the land registry and the local authority.

The cottages were demolished right after WWII (I think) and a council estate (Kings Avenue) was constructed there in about 1952 or so. There is no trace of the original cottages, except that the council estate streets were built parallel to the line of the cottages.

Baileys Piece itself is still recognisable from teh OS map outline. It hasn't changed since the 1600s.

I hope this information finds you after such a long time since your original posting, and I hope it might be useful.

I would be interested to know the name of your family associated with Baileys Piece.
Title: Re: Baileys Piece Highworth - any idea?
Post by: nogsy on Saturday 20 February 16 15:10 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the information on Baileys Piece Cottages in Highworth.
I have found your information most useful and have since visited the current site as part of a family history trail. I had been trying to locate their origin for some time as I have an interest in the Lay family who are shown as resident in the 1861 and 1871 census.
Title: Re: Baileys Piece Highworth - any idea?
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 20 February 16 15:18 GMT (UK)
Hi that's great information thank you for posting.  What a shame no trace of the cottages remain  :(

My family is the Lay family too specifically Benjamin Lay senior.  His daughter Mary Lay who married John Moore in 1885 was my great grandmother. 
Title: Re: Baileys Piece Highworth - any idea?
Post by: nogsy on Monday 22 February 16 08:16 GMT (UK)
I believe Mary is one of 12 children of Benjamin (b.circa 1814) and Elizabeth Lay, Benjamin was the son of Charles (b.circa 1791) and Jane Lay. Charles brother Richard (b.circa 1795) is the branch of the family I descend from. Do you have any information on John and Mary's children you could share?
Title: Re: Baileys Piece Highworth - any idea?
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 22 February 16 08:31 GMT (UK)
Yes that's right Elizabeth Ackling.  Benjamin had children with his first wife too Mary Brown if I recall.  I think he had at least 15 children in total and lived to a ripe old age.  I have his death certificate and have found where he is buried in Highworth.

Am happy to share information on the Moore family :)

If you make one more post I can send you a personal message. 
Title: Re: Baileys Piece Highworth - any idea?
Post by: nogsy on Monday 22 February 16 10:42 GMT (UK)
I didn't know Benjamin was married before his marriage to Elizabeth, I have his youngest child as Sarah born 1849 and the oldest Fanny born 1877. I have Benjamin age 88 in Highworth in the 1901 census.
Title: Re: Baileys Piece Highworth - any idea?
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 22 February 16 18:59 GMT (UK)
I have him married to Mary Brown in 1836 and they had at least 2 daughters Hannah and Jane.

Mary died age 35 16 March 1847 and Benjamin married Elizabeth 25 Dec 1847.
He died 19 Nov 1903 age 90.

Will look more details out for you  :)
Title: Re: Baileys Piece Highworth - any idea?
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 22 February 16 20:24 GMT (UK)
Children of John Moore and Mary Lay - all now deceased.  I remember a few of the younger ones especially Ethel Kate as she lived two doors down from my Gran

Sarah Ann born 1886
John born 1888
William born 1889
Edith Mary born 1891
Albert Chares born 1893
Florence born 1895
Percy born 1897
Elizabeth May born 1900
Amelia born 1902
Thomas Edward born 1905
Lily my grandmother born 1907
Ethel Kate born 1910
Reginald Arthur born 1912 

 
Title: Re: Baileys Piece Highworth - any idea?
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 22 February 16 20:40 GMT (UK)
Children of Benjamin and Elizabeth I have the following

Sarah Jane 1848
William 1851
Elizabeth 1854
Henry 1856
Mary Ann 1858
Emma 1860
Edward 1862
Benjamin 1864
Jane 1866
Mary my great grandmother 1868
Mary Ann 1868 - might be wrong with that one
Ann 1870
Caroline 1873
Fanny 1876
Eliza 1879
Title: Re: Baileys Piece Highworth - any idea?
Post by: toby webb on Friday 26 February 16 17:01 GMT (UK)
Go to    http://maps.nls.uk/view/106026112
This is a 25 inch O.S. map  Sheet Wiltshire XI.2 published 1877.
You can count the cottages, T
Title: Re: Baileys Piece Highworth - any idea?
Post by: cardinalcanary on Wednesday 20 December 17 21:46 GMT (UK)
My 2xgreat aunt Catherine Carter married a Henry Higgins who is shown living at Baileys Piece in the 1851 census. This has been an interesting thread.