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Title: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)COMPLETE THANKS
Post by: stuartroxy on Tuesday 16 December 08 20:14 GMT (UK)
Can anyone please help deciphering the marriage certificate of Peter Becker and Kate Aitchison in 1886?

Stuart :)

Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)
Post by: stuartroxy on Tuesday 16 December 08 20:19 GMT (UK)
For what it's worth, this is what I think that it says:

Stuart. ;)
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 16 December 08 21:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Stuart

There is a birth entry which looks likely for Kate on IGI:

Catherine Aitchison b 30 MAR 1867 in Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh. Parents showing as THOMAS SALMOND AITCHISON and JEMIMA BROWN

Nothing jumping out as yet for Ernest (not a particularly Scottish name!).

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 16 December 08 22:09 GMT (UK)
There is a death showing in Edinburgh in 1873 for a Jemima Brown Aitchison which would fit with the Kate's mother showing as deceased at the time of the 1886 marriage.

This is the closest I can see in the 1881 census with a possible second marriage for father Thomas - everyone showing as born in Edinburgh unless shown:

Thomas S Aitchison    50, Surgeon Dentist
Anna Aitchison 28, wife, b. England
James Aitchison 26, son, dentist
Thomas S Aitchison 22, son, Ranoforte (pianoforte?) Tuner
Jemima B Aitchison 20, daughter
David W Aitchison 16, son, dentist
Catherine Aitchison 14, daughter
Emily L Aitchison 10, daughter
Mary Davie 17, servant b. Linlithgow

Address: 61 Queen Street, Edinburgh

Monica
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 16 December 08 22:14 GMT (UK)
Just noticed that Kate's father Thomas also down as deceased in 1886. He looks to have died not long after the 1881 census. This looks to be his entry on the Wills & Testaments section on SP:

Thomas Salmond Aitchison, 19/09/1881, 61 Queen Street, Edinburgh, d. 05/05/1881 at Edinburgh, intestate - Edinburgh Sheriff Court Inventories, Ref SC70/1/209

Monica

Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 16 December 08 22:20 GMT (UK)
 ::) Might be a bit harder to determine parents for Ernest, he shows as born in Germany on the 1891 census, everyone else shows as born in Edinburgh:

Ernest P Becker 31, Hairdresser's Assistant, b. Germany Prussia
Catherine Becker 24
Emilie F Becker 5
Ernest T Becker 4
Katheline C Becker 1

Address:  5 Mackenzie Pl, Edinburgh

I would say Ernest's age on his marriage entry looks like 24 rather than 19. Still slightly out going by the age above.

Monica
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)
Post by: stuartroxy on Tuesday 16 December 08 23:10 GMT (UK)
Monica,

Thanks again.  You are a star :D

I did find the German connection - apparently quite hard to follow up. A bit more slowly that perhaps I should; it's not as if there are no famous Germans called Becker!!!

Thanks for the information on the Aitchisons - I did think 'Jemima' looked a good bet.

Stuart
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)
Post by: stuartroxy on Tuesday 16 December 08 23:11 GMT (UK)
Monica,

Thanks again.  You are a star :D

I did find the German connection - apparently quite hard to follow up. A bit more slowly that perhaps I should; it's not as if there are no famous Germans called Becker!!!

Thanks for the information on the Aitchisons - I did think 'Jemima' looked a good bet.

Stuart

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Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 17 December 08 09:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Stuart

You might be lucky on IGI and find details on Ernest's family there. There are IGI entries for Germany (just scroll down on the countries list). I couldn't easily see an entry for Ernest, but you may be able to find other siblings which might give you clues as to where in Germany Ernest was from. First thing though you need to establish the name for Ernest's mother. Try contacting SP on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/contactus/form.aspx?issue=24 and ask for help with Ernest's parents' details.

The 1901 census has a number of Beckers from Germany, maybe other siblings also came to Scotland (?).

Monica  :)

Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)
Post by: otters on Wednesday 17 December 08 14:35 GMT (UK)
I am sorry I don't have any more to add to this but I am reasearching the name Aitchison in Dalkeith and wondered if there is a connection here. I do have some information and my family moved from Scotland to Hull in Yorkshire. This was my mums maiden name.
Maybe we could help each other?
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)
Post by: hume on Thursday 18 December 08 08:38 GMT (UK)
Adding to what has already been said (esp. Monica's suggestion on contacting SP), Ernest's death record of 1910 gives his parents as Ernest Peter Becker, farm steward (dec.) and Marie Antoinette Becker m.s. Perfect (also dec.).

hume :)
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)
Post by: stuartroxy on Thursday 18 December 08 10:20 GMT (UK)
Thanks hume, especially the bit on ernest's death cert. That's the bit I had difficulty deciphering in their marriage cert.  If I find any Aitchisons from Dalkeith, otters, I'll be in touch.

Stuart
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)
Post by: tidybooks on Thursday 18 December 08 11:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Stuart,

I have filled in the spreadsheet, with all the info gathered by monica and hume24, I thing No 5 St Stephen Street, is missing address, it is quite near Mackenzie Place in Stockbridge area of Edinburgh.

Tom
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher) COMPLETE THANKS
Post by: stuartroxy on Thursday 18 December 08 19:01 GMT (UK)
Tom,

You are a star!  Thanks very much.  I agree with you re St Stephen's Street as being the missing address.

Thanks again,

Stuart
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)COMPLETE THANKS
Post by: stuartroxy on Sunday 21 December 08 12:02 GMT (UK)
I checked out the Becker's in the 1901 census; most of the Becker's are from the same family - also from Prussia.  Who knows: relations?

Stuart
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)COMPLETE THANKS
Post by: June Locke on Monday 24 July 17 19:53 BST (UK)
Hi there,

I have been researching my husbands family tree for several years now.

His grandmother was Ida Blanche Becker ...daughter of Ernest Becker and Kate (Catherine) Aitchison.  Kate was the daughter of Thomas Salmond Aitchison and Jemima Brown.

Which line are you descended from?

June Locke
Fife
Scotland
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)COMPLETE THANKS
Post by: June Locke on Monday 24 July 17 20:03 BST (UK)
Just noticed you referred to the entry on Wills and Testaments for Thomas S Aitchison. I paid to view this entry..and was a bit disappointed to discover that it was for Catherine's brother, the piano tuner who died young before his father.

Did you find out that Thomas Salmond Aitchison the father, remarried to a much younger woman after Jemima died?  Don't think that went down too well with his children.

June Locke
Fife
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)COMPLETE THANKS
Post by: stuartroxy on Tuesday 25 July 17 22:56 BST (UK)
Hi June,

Ida's brother, Frank, married my great aunt, Jessie Ina Roxburgh.  Her brother, Thomas McQuaters Roxburgh was my grandad.

I'll have to investigate Thomas Salmon Aitchison and his second wife!

Yours aye,

Stuart
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)COMPLETE THANKS
Post by: June Locke on Tuesday 25 July 17 23:52 BST (UK)
Hi Stuart,

I have found the Beckers on 1901 Census.  They had quite a big family, including two sons, Ernest Thomas who died in WW1 and Stewart Charles, who for some weird reason my husband Peter's mum told me, was called "Uncle Bunty".  Is that the brother who was married to your great aunt?

Thomas Salmond Aitchison married an Anna Fuller in 1874, just months after Jemima died. She was 22 and he was 38.  I tried to find his or her will...but never found it.

June
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)COMPLETE THANKS
Post by: stuartroxy on Wednesday 26 July 17 08:10 BST (UK)
Morning June,

Ernie Becker was in the same battalion - 16th Royal Scots - as my great uncle, Willie Roxburgh.  They both died on 1 July 1916 on the first day of the Battle of the Somme.  Charlie Becker married Grace Fraser in 1924.  He'd been shot during the Great War.  'My' Becker is Frank; he married my great auntie Jessie, the sister of my granddad Tam Roxburgh.

Stuart
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)COMPLETE THANKS
Post by: June Locke on Friday 28 July 17 12:40 BST (UK)
Hi Stuart,

I didn't know that there was a son named Frank.

Ernie was part of "Macrae's Battalion".. and got a mention in the book written about them. Have you read it?  We have seen a letter written to Kate Aitchison about Ernie's death sent from a friend who served with him.

I have a couple of photos of Ernie, and one of Ernest Becker the hairdresser. Do you have any?  I also have one of Kate Aitchison...though is not a terribly clear one.

June
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)COMPLETE THANKS
Post by: stuartroxy on Friday 28 July 17 23:12 BST (UK)
Both Ernie and my great uncle Willie Roxburgh were in McCrae's Battalion. I've got 2 copies of Jack Alexander's book - one dedicated to Ernie and Willie by the author.  I hadn't twigged that Ernie was mentioned in the book - and was a poet!

I'd love a copy of a photo of Ernie for my tree!
(And, Kate!)

All the best,

Stuart
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)COMPLETE THANKS
Post by: June Locke on Saturday 29 July 17 17:16 BST (UK)
Hi Stuart,

I will have a look for those images of Ernest Peter Becker, Ernest Thomas Becker and Kate.  I had them on an old computer which has since gone to computer heaven...but have them on a memory stick somewhere.  Just need to locate it :)

Having a bit of a rake about ;)

June
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)COMPLETE THANKS
Post by: stuartroxy on Saturday 29 July 17 19:44 BST (UK)
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Stuart
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)COMPLETE THANKS
Post by: JuneLocke on Monday 31 July 17 14:35 BST (UK)
Hi Stuart,

I have found the photos of the two Ernests  and Kate and have tried to upload them on to here but it keeps failing.

Trying to think of another way to send you them.

June

Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)COMPLETE THANKS
Post by: IanB on Monday 31 July 17 15:01 BST (UK)
Hi June: You seem to have 2 accounts going: "June Locke"  and "JuneLocke' In any event, the first one shows enough posts to qualify for Personal Messaging. (PM) I suggest you and Stuart exchange email addresses though PM, and then you can scan the pictures and email them to him.
Ian
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)COMPLETE THANKS
Post by: JuneLocke on Monday 31 July 17 21:50 BST (UK)
Hi Ian,

Oh...So I have.   Silly me.  I did have a problem trying to register the other day.... I must have set up two by mistake. 

Thanks...I will try that.

June
Title: Re: Ernest Becker and Kate Aitchison - 1886 (decipher)COMPLETE THANKS
Post by: stuartroxy on Monday 31 July 17 22:46 BST (UK)
👍

PM sent.

Stuart.