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Hello Rootschatters, I am totally out of my zone in this part of the UK so please bear with me... A cousin and I have links to the McGachen family of Cheltenham. At this time, I am totally perplexed about John McGachen who purportedly was b. abt 1787 in Cheltenham according to an unreliable source: IGI submitted entry. However, the only John McGachen who appears to fit the time frame is one chr. 27 May 1787 in Ayr, Ayr, Scotland. One census entry in 1881 shows a probable son born in Scotland. I think what might help me at this point is to find John McGachen and his wife: Ann (nee: Dew) in 1841 and possibly 1851 census. According to visitation records, Ann died in 1873. There appears to be a link between the Cheltenham McGachens and some McGachens in Selby, Yorkshire. :-\ ANY information on this dilemma would be most appreciated. Thank you kindly! Pat
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Pat,
Yes, that IGI entry certainly is unreliable for there are no McGachens in Chelt' according to the Hugh Wallis site.
Many McG's are given by freebmd ( http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl ) in West Derby; have you considered any of them?
Regards
Chas.
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Hello Chas. Thank you; I shall keep that in mind when I try to tie the group together. Pat
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Hi,
I have just put in the name of Ann McGlashen (I did this as I knew a family by that name when I lived in Cheltenham) and the first entry that came up for 1841 was as follows:
Ann McClechen b. circa 1803
John 40 Barrister at Law
Ann 38
John 15
Donald 10
Etchibald 10
I looked at the census page and it looks like Mac Geshen. Last one is Archibald.
HO107 piece 369 Book 7
Is this the one you are looking for?
Edit:
Forgot to say, the family were living in Corse which about 20 miles NW of Cheltenham and that they were all born outside the county and there is a mark in the next column that denotes that John snr was born in Ireland, Scotland or abroad. It seems likely therefore that this is your family but John was born later than you supposed, that is if the age is right. 1841 being a bad one to check on.
Elizabeth
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Hello Liz in France, Thank you so much for your reply. I think this may not be the family: the visitation indicates that Ann (nee: Dew) McGachen was b. 1790 and was baptised at St. Mary le Bone Church in London; she married John McGachen (birth date and place unknown) in 1820 at the British Embassy in Paris, France. (According to the visitation, John McGachen was a Lt. H.M. Royal Fleet. Some of the McGachens that I think are related were in the military as well as some being vicars of various churches.) The name Archibald does occur in several generations, so I suspect this family is related, but not the exact one I seek. Thanks again! Pat
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Hi Pat,
Just found a few more things of interest after reading your message.
John Drummond McGashan born 1826 registered Cheltenham, in 1861, 1871 and 1881 was Reverend at St Bartholmews Church Bethnall Green London.
John Paris McGachen born 1879 reg. Cheltenham. son of Donald McGachen
living in Corse 1891.
Ann Mc Gachen died June 1873 registered Newent, vol 6a page 165 born 1790
Any good.?
Elizabeth
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Hello Liz in France! YES, I am doing the happy dance! ;D These are definitely some of the family group I am trying to put together. John Paris McGachen is new to me! I am not certain who his Father, Donald is!! In fact, I cannot find either in any census. I am still in hopes of finding this family in earlier years (esp 1851) where birth place and exact ages are listed. And, yes, the death in 1873 is Ann (nee: Dew) McGachen. My earlier suspicions that the McGachens were from Scotland is looking more and more likely. In fact, I think several may have been Seaforth Highlanders according to oral family history....Again, my thanks! Pat
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Forest of Dean Family History Society has transcribed parish records, including Corse and Newent.
This is on an ongoing project, the transcriptions are free to view but you do need to register.
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/
Regards
Susan :)
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Hi again,
Good, I'm glad some of it is use to you. John Paris was the son of Donald, who was the son of John and Ann.
Donald Rollo McGashen born c. 1828 married Emily born 1845 of Halsham, Yorkshire. In 1891 he was living on his own means.
John Drummond born c. 1825 married Sophia from Selby in Yorkshire.
I can look up some more tomorrow, if you like. It is nearly 1.00 am and I am going to bed.
Best wishes,
Elizabeth
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Hello Elizabeth! ;D THANK YOU so much for this information. I'm going to try to collate what I know so far on my furthest back McGachens. I can see that the name has been spelled differently and that may account for my problems in searching for them. Later! Pat
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Hello Susan, THANK YOU for the website. I shall delve into it soon. Pat
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Hello Elizabeth! Firstly, let me offer an apology to you....I am 99% certain that the original family you found for me IS the correct family...Those ages threw me off...Here's what I have gleaned so far: John McGachen and Ann Dew had at least 5 children: Nicholas Howard McGachen b. abt 1821 in Scotland; a female (unnamed) b. abt 1825 in Cheltenham - per IGI; John Drummond McGachen b. abt 1826 in Cheltenham who married a woman named Sophia. Fourth child: Donald Rollo McGachen who married Emily Jane Hill Sept 1870 qtr in Scarboro and he died age 66 in March Qtr 1894 in Cheltenham. Lastly, Archibald Henry Harmsworth McGachen b. abt 1828 in Cheltenham who died at age 74 in Dec Qtr 1902 in Lewisham, London. So, the obvious question is: where were the two oldest children at the time of the 1841 census? I suspect that Nicholas Howard McGachen MAY have been away at theology school. The female child may have either died as a youngster or have been visiting other relatives. I have had a terrible time trying to find Donald Rollo McGachen in the 1881 census -- according to the death index - he is still supposed to be alive....obviously, his surname has been so mutilated in the transcription process that I can't find it. I tried all the alternate spellings you supplied. :'( Can you find Donald? I don't know how I can find that unnamed female except perhaps she married and is in the civil marriage indexes...The McGachen names in those indexes are not consistent, either! So, Elizabeth, you were spot on when you provided the fact that the name has been altered fairly significantly... Thanks so much. Pat
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Hi Pat,
I have some of the answers for you.
I will give you it a bit at a time or else I get into a muddle. The spellings are as they are written on the censuses so you can find them.
1841 census
Nicolas H McGachan 15
Living at Dunoon Cottage Ayr, Scotland with BROTHER Frideric aged 14
1851 N Howard McGachen B.A. Curate of Acton Turville Living at Acton Turville, Glos.with brother F Stewart McGachen Barrister at Law in actual practice
1861 Nicholas H McGacken curate of Portsmouth married to Henrietta M of Mudford Essex (I think) 4 children, 2 born I.O.Wight and 2 Portsmouth
1871 Nicolas H McGachen 10 St Georges Place London. Rector of St George the Martyr and St Mary Magdelen. 4 children
1881 Nicholas H McGachen vicar of Littlebourne - 14 St Georges Place - wife now Mary born Holborn London aged 61
1891 Nicolas H McGacherd at Littlebourne
1901 Howard McGachen Effingham House Dover, Clergyman C of E widower living with 17 yr old grandson Edward McGachen born Canada
So that is Nicolas Howard McGachen covered for all the censuses.
The 1841 census being Scottish does not allow you to look at the full sheet so it is impossible to say what sort of place they were living in. Looking at the neighbours on the same page, it looks as though it could be an establishment for orphans or the workhouse next door. They are living with the Auld family as well as lots of other people.
The children may number more than 4 as I haven't checked the names out for them.
Will come back with more as I find it.
Elizabeth
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Hello again! WOW! Yet another child - Frederick! I can't begin to thank you enough for your wonderful effort on sorting out this family, which is growing by leaps and bounds! :o My connection is through Nicholas Howard McGahen, however, due to the use of very significant middle names in ALL of the siblings branches of this family, I am convinced that I will need to sort out all of them! For example, now that I know we are also looking for a Frederick -- I think I have found his death in civil registration: his full name is VERY significant: Death: March Qtr 1865 in Bethnal Green: MacGachen, Francis Nicholas Styleman L'Estrange died March Qtr 1865. And, also, insterestingly, another death entry for the same quarter and place: MacGachen, Stewart John Drummond!!! These are ALL significant family names. Even a birth in Newent district in June 1873: MacGachen, Harold Dew!!!!! One of the problems in the civil registrations is that the name has been spelled with a "mac" OR a "mc" ---so I am using both spellings. I THANK YOU so much for finding "my" Nicholas Howard with the spelling variations! I have never been able to get various census alternate spellings to work for me, so my hat's off to you, Elizabeth. PS- I'm still in shock over the Canadian connection!!! :o Pat
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Hi Pat,
I am still working on the rest of the family but I think I am not going to be quite so successful as I was with Nicolas H. Spellings are key to finding quickly and some of the interpretations, leave a lot to be desired.
I too saw H Dew, I thought it was Howard but not sure. There is Archibald Hew McGachen born4/1960 Selby but he is the son of John Drummond. Then there is a Howard Archibald married York 1893 and so it goes on.
Frideric (Frederick perhaps) had the second name of Stewart but I haven't been able to find anything else for him yet. Just 1841 and 1851. That death in Bethnal Green: have you checked the births for that one as I feel it could be the son of John Drummond, the same for Stewart John Drummond. I feel the connection you are talking about though. Certain names keep cropping up, talk about keeping it in the family.
There are so many little things that may or may not be significant and you just have to keep at it. Somethimes, even changing your views as more comes to light.
I have been doing this for nearly two years now, which isn't long, but I keep at it every day for at least a couple of hours, sometimes 4 or 5 , I am so wrapped up in it.
At the beginning I found something in my family tree that was different to another person's tree that had been working on it for 20 years and who was a bit of an expert on our family name. She didn't believe my theory to start with and told me so, but with the new information, she had to concede that I was right and everything fell into place. So you see, even after 20 years, new info can make a difference.
I am looking at Archibald now, but not much to show for it.
Will be back.
Elizabeth
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Hello again! I am still finding very significant tidbits that you have found, Elizabeth. ;D For example, the 1841 entry for Nicholas and his Brother, Frederick living in Ayr, Scotland....That is a link to the possible birthplace of John McGachen, the Father. There is an IGI entry for John McGachen born in the "correct" time frame - ca.1787 in Ayr, Scotland. I am suspecting that the Cheltenham entry for his birth - which was submitted - was merely a guess. >:( And, it was an erroneous assumption.) At any rate, I know that there is 92 year old gent who knew precious little about his McGachen family tree that will be doing the happy dance tomorrow! PS: The Dew family has been SO easy to trace because they connect to the Syleman, L'Estrange and Wodehouse families who are directly related to Edward I. That's why those names do appear in related families, I am sure. :) Again, my sincerest thanks for all you are doing and may I take this opportunity to wish you and yours a most happy Christmas. Pat
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Found the following family members - not sure if you have this info: Baptism
8 Oct 1871
MACGACHEN George Stanley
Donald Rollo
Emma Jane
Residence: Corse
Occupation: Gentleman Farmer
1873 Jun 1
MACGACHEN
Harold Dew
Donald Rollo
Emma Jane:
Residence: Corse
Occupation: Gentleman farmer
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Hello tilly! THANK YOU so much for the additional information; it really does help to try to sort this family out properly. Pat
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You're welcome Pat. I am just checking to see if there are any other snippets I can find for you.
Regards
Tilly
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Hi,
I agree with you and I personally would start looking in Scotland, most certainly and now would start with Ayr.
You are lucky to have such fabulously unusual names and combinations, it really does narrower the search down but pity about the difficult surname. I tried FreeBMD but it comes up everytime with no records found, which I can't believe.
Do you have Ancestry or a similar census source. There are so many children born to the generation we are looking at and I wonder if you have them all.
Archibald must have gone to Nova Scotia with the army as his daughter Mary was born there c.1874/5 so maybe he was still there in 1881 as I haven't yet found the census. His other daughter Alice was born in Leckhampton in Cheltenham c.1870/71 so I can have a look through the census there as I am familiar with Leckhampton.
Will be back.
Elizabeth
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Hello again Liz, I managed to find on freeBMD some of them listed under "MacGachen" ---- sadly, I do not have acces at this time to Ance**** or any other pay site. I really appreciate your efforts...I am still quie puzzzled why I could only find two of the families in 1881 census: Nicholas H. living in Kent and John D. living in London....Again, there must be a radical spelling for others!! Thanks and happy holidays! Pat
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Back again,
I have found all sorts of things on A******y which are very interesting but some of it quite involved.
Archibald Henry H was living with his parents in 1841 at Corse (Lawn) Glos.
1851 he was lodging at 16 Norfolk Street, St Clement Danes and was an architects clerk.
Can't find 1861
1868 Son Howard was born in Rochester
1870 Daughter Alice " " Leckhampton Cheltenham
1871 Son Roderick was born in Bristol
1875 Daughter Mary was born in Nova Scotia (Halifax)
1881 ??
1891 Living in Lee London with the above (McEachen) Retired staff Paymaster Army.
1901 Lewisham?? Can't find yet
Death 1902 Lewisham.
I don't know if I am going mad or getting bogged down but did Archibald marry Mary Dobson in Cheltenham 2/1867 and John marry Sophia Dobson in 1853. Were they sisters do you think?
I have the marriage details for John Drummond MacGachen to Sophia Dobson 2nd Feb 1853 Selby Yorks. Grooms father John MacGachen.
I have found John's details for 1841, 1861, 1871 and 1881
1841 same as Archibald
1851 ?
1861 MacGaiher - children Francis 6 born Scotland, Frederick 5 born Selby, Henrietta 2 born Selby, Archibald 6 month born Selby.
1871 Vicarage at St Bartholemews Bethnal Green. John D 45, Sophia 39,
Archibald H 10, Sophia J.A. 6, Duncan G M 1.
1881 John & Sophia with ARchibald H, Euphemia A 16 St Barts Vicarage.
I think this is a bit muddly. Where are Sophia J A (16) and Duncan (11) and where did Euphemia come from as she would be the same age as Sophia.
Anyway, it's names you can look up.
The people that Nicholas and Frederic were staying with in 1841 were called Auld and the wife was called Euphemia and I think the daughter as well. Is there a family connection?
There are a lot of MacGachens in the incoming passenger lists and they may be significant as a lot of them are from Quebec. Here a few.
AFD MacGachen born 1862
Quebec to Southampton 4.7.1922
ASD MacGachen
New YOrk to Liverpool 10.6.1893
Armine MacGachen born c. 1876
Depart Quebec arrived Southampton 11.6.1930
Armine MacGachen born c. 1864
Quebec to Liverpool 6.6.1924
Armine MacGachen born c 1863
Quebec to Liverpool 29/5/1925
Lots more there. These are all the same person I would think and I wonder if he was employed on the shipping line.
Few births of interest.
Frederick William Dobson MacGachen 2/1856 Selby (John & Sophia)
Annine Frederick MacGachen (Armine)? 1/1855 I.O.W. Nicholas & Mary ?
Henrietta Mary Armine MacGachen 3/1858 Selby
From The Law List. Counsel
J MacGachen esq. Cheltenham M. Date of call 7.11.1834
there were entries with either L. G or M. Don't know what they mean but probably a level of attainment in the justice system. This is John born circa 1787 I would think.
I will come back with more in a minute.
Elizabeth
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Last bit for now.
Extracts from Oxford University Ulumni. 1715 -1886
Nicholas Howard MacGachen. 1s (first son) of John of Edinburgh arm. PEMBROKE COLL. MATRIC. 14.12.1844 aged 21. B.A. 1848 Vicar of St Mark, North End, Portsmouth, 1868-60 rector of St George the Martyr etc. Canterbury. 1869-81 Vicar of Littlebourne Kent, since 1881 ....
John Drummond MacGachen 2s. John of Cheltenham co. Gloucestershire arm. PEMBROKE COLL. matric. 17.12.1844 age of 19 B.A. 1848 M.A. 1855 Vicar of St Bartholemews Bethnal Green until his death 10.4.1886
If you tell me what else I can find for you, I will look it up and send it as a PM and that way I can copy stuff if necessary and send it to you.
Hope all this has helped you move on. I know we haven't established the baptism of John, your original look up, but we have enlarged the family somewhat. I think that Edinburgh might be a good place to start for John's baptism as I saw that on one of the censuses. I think Nicholas was born Edinburgh.
All this has been done in a bit of a hurry but I am happy to go through it all slowly and check and add details.
Nicholas's grandson born Canada, could there be a connection with Armine do you think. Perhaps tomorrow, i could go through and list the known children to the parents and then we might see who his parents were. Let me know if you want me to.
Best of luck and I hope the 92 old fellow is happy with your findings. I take it is his family too.
Elizabeth
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Hello Elizabeth! Whew! What amazing finds! In answer to some of your questions: I strongly suspect that the DOBSON ladies, when it all shakes out, will be related.....(Keep the money in the family kind of thing, I suspect)...Yes, Armine McGachen is kin to this group -- Armine is one of the Le Strange family ancestors....well documented on visitations and on the net. They are directly related to Sir William Armine of Osgoodby b. abt 1409 who was treasurer of Calais. And, finally, based on your finding John McGachen as an attorney (barrister) in 1841 following his military career, I suspect, yes, those would be some sort of levels he attained in the justice system. There is a LOT to absorb about this family and its connections. I thank you profusely for your tenacity and interest! :) Pat
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Hi
You're very welcome Pat. It's nice to be appreciated and I enjoyed finding out for you. Just dead nosey really.
Off to watch the final of Strictly Come Dancing now.
Best wishes,
Elizabeth
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Hello again Liz! Yes, I'm hot on the trail of the McGachens! (Thanks to you!) ;D I thought it was strange that Frederick Stewart McGachen appeared to disappear from England...armed with the information that several of the McGachens travelled back and forth to Canada...I googled Frederick Stewart McGachen's name and PRESTO! Those wonderful Cheltenham College registers popped up! Sure enough, there is an entry for him stating he was born 1825 "Day Boy"...I don't know if that is a location or a nickname he may have acquired at the school. At any rate, it states he died 18 October 1880 in Ontario, Canada! Therefore, I am assuming (ahem!) that there should be McGachens living in Ontario in the 1881 Canadian census... Also, there was a child named Laurina McGachen born 24 July 1840 in West Derby, Lancashire, Liverpool area who is on a website showing that she married 28 Feb 1867 at Holy Innocents Church in Liverpool to a gent named Pedro Foulkes who was b. 1839 in Ceara, Brazil..According to the website, they had 6 children and Laurina died 11 April 1910 in Toxeth Park, Lancashire. The website lists various censuses where Laurina was found, except they do not list 1841, 1851 or 1861, which would detail her parents....So, the upshot is that there should be Mc Gachens in Canada, as you suspected! Later! Pat
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Hi Pat,
Cheltenham College is a very old institution in Chelt. They took in boarders from all over the world and local boys were 'day boys'. It is a beautiful setting for a school a very old and majestic building just on the edge of the town centre. I lived very close to it. In 1891 Nicholas was living very close to it too, just a couple of minutes away.
Every summer, the grounds are used for the County Cricket Matches and it was the setting for the film (quite old now) 'Goodbye Mr Chips'.
Incidentally, there are a lot of McGachens in the Liverpool, West Derby areas but I did not take much notice of them as I did not think they were directly connected.
I am only doing some transcribing today, so it you want me to look up anything on A******y, I am quite happy to do so.
Best of luck with your Canadian research.
Elizabeth
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Hello Liz, Thank you for the added information about Cheltenham and clarifying what a "day boy" was. And, yes, I am beginning to think that there is a West Derby connection..perhaps some of the McGachens that were around Selby, YKS migrated that way. Seems quite probable. Thank you again for your invaluable help and happy holidays to you. Pat
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Hello Liz, Just an update....remember you found the two oldest McGachen boys in 1841 living in Troon cottage in Ayr, Scotland surrounded by an Auld family? Well....here's the connection! ;D A Euphemia Mc Gachen married a David AULD on 1 Jan. 1803 in Ayr, Ayr, Scotland. So, I am assuming that Euphemia could possibly be a sister to our John. Problem is - I can't find a Euphemia McGachen in the IGI being born anywhere in Scotland..... AND, I have found the elusive Frederick Stewart McGachen in the 1880 CANADIAN census...that is, his widow and two children living in Ontario for you see, Frederick himself died 18 October 1880 in Ontario, Canada. So, it seems fairly certain that members of that family were visited by their rellies. I noticed that on the Canadian census they show religion and all of Frederick's family were Catholic. So I am assuming that his marriage and the baptisms of his two children (one in Scotland and one in Ontario) will have been in the Catholic Church. I don't know where to begin to look to find those registers, but I feel good that I have found him... Guess that's it for this time, but I thought you would be interested since you have invested so much time and energy for me in this quest. :) Pat
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Hi Pat,
The 1851 and 1861 census gives Euphemia's birthplace as Ayr in 1783 and David's as Greenock, 1783. He died sometime between the 2 censuses and there were many children, if you are interested. She was a house proprietor, which is why there so many unrelated people in the house. I had imagined Dunoon Cottage would have been quite small and dinky but obviously not. I would definitely start my search for baptisms of John and his sister Euphemia in Ayr. There are probably a lot more siblings too.
I am not sure where you would find Catholic records but I have seen a couple of RC churches on the IGI as I have looked at them too when I haven't been able to find a baptism in other Parish records. Perhaps it is a question you can put to the forum.
You have come on in leaps and bounds with your family and I am quite envious as mine have had so many brick walls, but I am getting better at demolition with help from sites like this one. Yours is such a well documented family with references in high places.
Will leave you to it but do let me know how you get on.
Best wishes for a very happy Christmas and let's hope 2009 will not be as bad as all the pessimists are expecting it to be.
:) :D :) ;) :) ;) :) ;)
That should do it.
Elizabeth
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Hello Liz, Thanks again for the additional information on Euphemia and David...IGI lists them as having some 12 children! :o Pat
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Pat - I have read with much interest the various messages about the McGachen family. I am a relative of John Drummond McG and his 2nd daughter, Sophia Euphemia Auld McG, and have quite a lot of information about that side of the family, including the family bibles of the parents of Sophia and Mary Dobson (they were sisters) and of John and Sophia McG. Both give names and dates of birth of the children. There were 7 Dobson children but Sophia and Mary were the only ones to survive into adulthood. John and Sophia McG also had 7 children, but 3 boys died young - Francis Nicholas Styleman, Stewart John Drummond and Duncan George Matthias. The other 4 children, Frederick William Dobson, Henrietta Mary Armine, Archibald Hew and Sophia Euphemia Auld, all married and have living relatives (although, as far as I know, none still have the McGachen surname).
Please tell me if you want more information. I don't think I have anything to add to what you already know about John McG and Ann Dew. I believe that their son Frederic Stewart McG emigrated to Canada so there is probably quite a lot to add to that side of the story.
Best wishes, Patrick.
PS I am new to RootsChat and so just hope you get this message!
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Hello Patrick and a warm welcome to Rootschat!! ;D I am rather distantly related to this family but was helping out a cousin or two... I am going to forward your message to one in Philadelphia, PA and the other cousin is not on line who lives in England.....As soon as you make 3 posts, you will be able to use the Personal Mesasaging system of Rootschat. That is the way to discuss living persons on Rootshat. Again, welcome and watch for a personal message...it will pop up on your computer. ;) Pat
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My grandfather's sister Maude Mary Nicholson married Howard Archibald McGachen in York in 1893. Howard was b 1869 Rochester, Kent, the son of Lt Col Archibald Henry Harmsworth McGachen and his wife Mary Dobson. Archibald was the son of John McGachen and Ann Dew. I have briefly researched the family and found the same names as you - I have 5 sons of John and Ann........
Archibald was an army paymaster and therefore moved around - Cheltenham, Bristol, Colchester Essex, Lee Kent...... and I think had 5 children, one of whom was born in CANADA. His son Howard seems to have been the black sheep of the family - he moved to London from York and worked as a bus driver then later a postman before ending up as a prisoner in Wakefield in 1911 (census). He then emigrated to Canada in August 1911, but his wife and children did not follow until October 1913. It seems they didn't like Canada and set off back home in May 1914, leaving Howard behind but regretably Maude and her children drowned in the Empress of Ireland tragedy in the St Lawrence River. I have details from the local Scarborough newspapers, as the family were located in Scarborough where Maude's mother was living, prior to emigrating. Please contact me if you want any more details. I am still trying to find out what happened to Howard, though I know he served in WW1. (Canadian, I think).
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Hello and a belated warm welcome to Rootschat! ;D I am replying to your message immediately so that I don't "lose" you! I will check my other computer for pertinent information AND I know of at least two rellies you have -- one near Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and the other in the North East of England. Both of them are much more closely related to you. Nevertheless, we have made considerable strides in the McGachen family and would dearly love to trade additional information. I WILL be in touch quite soon! Most sincerely, Pat
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Is anyone out there related to Howard Archibald McGachen b 1869 Rochester Kent to Archibald Henry Harmsworth McGachen and Mary Dobson? Does anyone know about his life in Canada from 1911 on, or anything about his wife and daughters?? Did he survive the 1914-18 war and what did he do after that?
Chris
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Hi,
While this Mc Gachen is not in my tree I have gathered some data on him.
Am happy to pass on if you wish.
Sally Shine
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"Brendon" who signed your name as Patrick...I would love to get in touch with your personally. I'm very interested in seeing the Bibles for the parents of Mary and Sophia...hope you see this.
Jennie
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Hello Jennie I see you found a great deal on Howard Archibald McGachen since this old posting so I will link to your page. http://www.whitefamilytrees.org/getperson.php?personID=I2675&tree=jennie
You have the signups for the CEF WW1 but there are more papers available. You can send for them ($) or eventually they will digitize his so keep looking in..They are still in the "Ds" http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/canadian-expeditionary-force.aspx
J.J.