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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Nottinghamshire => Topic started by: Kelly1 on Tuesday 30 December 08 13:28 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
Does anyone know if Rolls Royce in Hucknall Notts was bombed during WW2?
My Great Aunt has told me that one of her uncles was injured or killed at Rolls Royce when it was bombed. I am trying to find some information to see if the info she has given me is correct.
I know that the Rolls Royce in Derby was bombed July 1942. I have contacted Rolls Royce in Derby, but they can't find any records of people with the surname Hallam who was injured or killed, when the Derby RR was bombed.
Any help would be truly appreciated.
Kind regards
Kelly. :)
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He should be listed on CWGC website if he was a civilian casualty, but I can't see anyone that would fit.
1 HALLAM, DOROTHY ELLEN Civilian 29/04/1941 33 Civilian War Dead United Kingdom PLYMOUTH, COUNTY BOROUGH
2 HALLAM, FRANK DANIEL Civilian 29/04/1941 2 Civilian War Dead United Kingdom PLYMOUTH, COUNTY BOROUGH
3 HALLAM, GEORGE HENRY Civilian 18/07/1944 Unknown Civilian War Dead United Kingdom SUMATRA
4 HALLAM, HENRY GEORGE Inspector 16/07/1944 Unknown Hong Kong Police Force United Kingdom Column 35. SAI WAN MEMORIAL
5 HALLAM, JEAN Civilian 29/04/1941 5 Civilian War Dead United Kingdom PLYMOUTH, COUNTY BOROUGH
6 HALLAM, MAY MARY Civilian 08/09/1940 36 Civilian War Dead United Kingdom BETHNAL GREEN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH
7 HALLAM, VICTOR CHARLES Civilian 21/03/1941 34 Civilian War Dead United Kingdom WEST HAM, COUNTY BOROUGH
8 HALLAM, WINIFRED GLADYS Civilian 15/12/1940 15 Civilian War Dead United Kingdom SHEFFIELD, COUNTY BOROUGH
What was his full name and date of birth?
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Hi Jaywit,
Thank you for your help.
I didn't realise that he would be on the CWGC.
My Great aunt can't remember which of her uncles it was.
Her uncles names are:
Thomas Hallam born 1885
Walter Hallam Born 1894
Bernard Hallam born 1895
William born 1899
Leeson Hallam born 1900 and died 1941.
Thank you once again for your help, it is truly appreciated.
Kelly.
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Kelly You say Leeson died in 1941? I can't see a death registration for him in 1941.
There are a couple of William Hallam deaths registered in 1941 in Nottingham one aged 44 and the other aged 58 neither is quite right for your William.
Have you traced the brothers through to find their marriages, did they stay in the Nottingham area? I think you need to take what your greataunt says with a little pinch of salt until you can find proof.
Time and time again people find what they have been told has got mangled over the years .
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Hi Jaywit,
Thank you for your reply.
Leeson Hallam died in the first quarter of 1941. I have traced Leeson's marriage and the names of his children.
The others are more difficult to trace because they have popular names!
One of my Great Aunts is actually adopted and she is the daughter of one of my Great Grandfathers brothers. The problem is my Great Aunt doesn't know which of the brothers was my other Great Aunts father.
All my Great Aunt can remember is her uncle died and then my Great Grandparents adopted his daughter.
No one in the family can remember which of the brothers it was because it wasn't really talked about.
Thank you for your help, it is truly appreciated.
Kind regards
Kelly. :)
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Kelly have you traced all the children on the 1901 census? I see there are 9 of them, and if you look back to 1891 it's possible there were even more.
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Hi Jaywit,
I have traced all the children on the 1891 and 1901 census. Two of the daughters passed away and one of the brothers that I haven't listed died after my Great grandfather, so I can exclude him from one of the possible brothers that died during WW2.
I think I will try looking through the BMD index again, to see how many possible marriages there are for the brothers and also the sisters.
Kind regards
Kelly.
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Hi
My husband says that they attempted to bomb Rolls Royce in WW2. A stick was dropped over the airfield but whether it hit anything he does not know. 1 bomb is 'alleged' to have landed on the Misk Hills.
You could try asking at the Rolls Royce Heritage Trust- they may be able to help- though I am not sure how you can contact them.
Diesel
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Hi Diesel,
Please thank your husband for me, for his help, it is truly appreciated.
I have contacted the Nottingham archives and I'm waiting for their reply. I will also contact The Rolls Royce heritage trust, I think I have their email address.
Thank you once again,
Kind regards
Kelly.
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Hi, I had a quick look in the "The Blitz, then and now" books to see if Hucknall was mentioned in the index but without much success.
I notice that there is an account of a raid on Rolls-Royce aero-engines at Derby on July 27th 1942 when 22 people were killed.
My Great Uncle spent a lot of time at Hucknall while he was involved in setting up the RAF bomb disposal service. They were responsible for enemy bombs which fell on RAF/AM property, as well as bombs found in crashed aircraft of both sides. According to his map, Hucknall was the base for No.13 BD Squad of the RAF which had a satellite unit at Swinderby (52 Squad). The RAF Squads came into force from early 1941, so it might be possible to find the unit records at the PRO.
Fred
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Hi Fred,
Thank you for looking in the "The Blitz, then and now" book.
I contacted Rolls royce at Derby and they told me that RR was bombed on 27th July 1942. Unfortunately, they couldn't find any information comcerning my Great grandfathers brothers.
Thank you once again for your help, it is truly appreciated.
Kind regards
Kelly.
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"One of my Great Aunts is actually adopted and she is the daughter of one of my Great Grandfathers brothers. The problem is my Great Aunt doesn't know which of the brothers was my other Great Aunts father.
All my Great Aunt can remember is her uncle died and then my Great Grandparents adopted his daughter.
No one in the family can remember which of the brothers it was because it wasn't really talked about." end quote.
If you know the name of the great Aunt who was adopted why do you not look for her birth and then send for her certificate. Could it be she was the child of one of the sisters and not brothers?If you want to send me a private mail with her name approx birth date I will have a look for you.
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Hi Larkspur,
Thank you for your message.
I know the name of my Great Aunt, but I'm not sure if it is her birth name. I found a couple of possible birth records for her. Then using the mothers maiden name I looked for marriages.
When I checked for the marriages none of the names matched with my Great Grandfathers brothers.
I have been thinking that she may have been the child of one of the sisters instead of the brothers. I have found marriages for 2 of the sisters. I'm currently looking for a marriage for the other sister.
Thank you for your help, it is truly appreciated.
Kind regards
Kelly.
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Maybe there was no marriage Kelly....happens in all families, would possibly be why she was adopted. My gt grandmother was in the same position.
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Hi Larkspur,
I had thought that there may not have been a marriage. There isn't any births registered for my Great Aunt with the mother maiden name being the same as hers.
The births that I have found are all registered as if the parents are married. But I suppose they could have lied and said they were married.
I have contacted Nottingham registry office because there was one possible birth which I found a marriage for. But the groom had a middle name and I know that my Great Grandfathers brother didn't have one.
I have asked them to see if on the marriage record if the grooms age and father matches with my details. I'm still waiting back from them.
Thank you again for your help, it is truly appreciated.
kind regards
Kelly. :)
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Here's a link to a wartime recollection by someone who worked at RR Hucknall during WW2. Mention of an opportunistic enemy bomber but no serious damage done.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/34/a7637934.shtml
Sherwood.
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Hi Sherwood
Thank you for your help, it is truly appreciated.
I will go and read the wartime recollcetion now, thank you.
Kelly. :)
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I came from Hucknall, was born 1945 - There was an attempt to bomb Rolls Royce at Hucknall during the war, my grandmother lived up in that area around then - I was told that 2 planes were fighting each other over Westville, the German plane was shot down, 2 houses were destroyed at the bottom of Ruffs Drive and a family called Hallam were killed.........I am sure Rolls Royce will have the records..............Libralady
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There was an attempt to bomb Rolls Royce Hucknall in WW2..... I was born in 1945 -my grandmother lived at Westville and said 2 planes were fighting over Ruffs Drive - the German plane was shot down, 2 houses were destroyed at the bottom of Ruffs Drive and a family called Hallam were killed......
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There was an attempt to bomb Rolls Royce Hucknall in WW2..... I was born in 1945 -my grandmother lived at Westville and said 2 planes were fighting over Ruffs Drive - the German plane was shot down, 2 houses were destroyed at the bottom of Ruffs Drive and a family called Hallam were killed......
Hi, thank you for the information. I did contact Rolls Royce when i originally posted on here. Unfortunately, Rolls Royce could not find any information for any Hallams. I did find some information concerning Ruffs drive Hucknall. From memory I think i found that a plane had crashed and a whole family died, but the family mentioned wasnt Hallams.
Thank you again for your reply. 😊
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Hi, just done a quick google search and a plane crashed September 1940 and the family who died were Evans. Also a Smith family was injured.
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My grandmother knew the family who were killed and their name was Hallam as my mother was friendly with their daughter called Brenda who was killed.........
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My grandmother knew the family who were killed and their name was Hallam as my mother was friendly with their daughter called Brenda who was killed.........
Hi LibraLady,
Thank you for your reply.
I was originally told a similar story by my Great Aunt. It is very interesting that you have also been told a similar story to me. I have done quite a lot of research to try and prove what my Great Aunt told me but unfortunately i haven't been able to find anything. I have contacted Rolls Royce and the Nottingham archives. Like i said previous i have found information regarding a plane crash in September 1940, which crashed into the corner of Ruffs Drive and laughton Crescent. Newspaper reports stated that an Albert and Alice Evans along with there Children Ronald, Alice and John were all killed. Also a Mr Smith and his children were injured.
I wonder if there were more than one accidents? It is very strange how two unrelated familes have been told a very similar story.
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My grandmother knew the family who were killed and their name was Hallam as my mother was friendly with their daughter called Brenda who was killed.........
Hi LibraLady,
Thank you for your reply.
I was originally told a similar story by my Great Aunt. It is very interesting that you have also been told a similar story to me. I have done quite a lot of research to try and prove what my Great Aunt told me but unfortunately i haven't been able to find anything. I have contacted Rolls Royce and the Nottingham archives. Like i said previous i have found information regarding a plane crash in September 1940, which crashed into the corner of Ruffs Drive and laughton Crescent. Newspaper reports stated that an Albert and Alice Evans along with there Children Ronald, Alice and John were all killed. Also a Mr Smith and his children were injured.
I wonder if there were more than one accidents? It is very strange how two unrelated familes have been told a very similar story.
Hi
The sheet covering this incident I acquired only gives the surnames and numbers of those who were killed at the scene.
You said injured or killed. Have you considered injured, but dying in hospital later? Some casualties died in Hospitals and in other Registration Districts.
Civilian War Dead - 1939 to 1945
Page 1822 (might read 1522)
Nottighamshire
Hucknall UD [Urban District]
Victims EVANS 5
Number 5
23 September 1940
Laughton Crescent
Fairey Battle, Serial No K9480
Pilot - Polish
This would be a 'Friendly' incident. However, my research into another friendly crash onto a house, where a civilian was flying as part of the crew (confirmed in RAF records), indicates that CWGC information online is misleading.
Mrs Thelma Hopewell (possibly nee Smith) is recalling the account in 2005, here ...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/04/a5541004.shtml
The occupants of the other house are claimed online to be SMITH with some injured and the family had to be divided up, living with relatives.
See "Picture the past"
http://www.picturethepast.org.uk/frontend.php?action=printdetails&keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;NCCC002697
Regards Mark
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Hi Kelly
Louis A. A. Hallam, April 1941, any use, probably too old?
Regards Mark
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Hi Mark,
Thank you for all of the information.
I haven't came across a Louis Hallam in my research.
The information concerning the Evans and Smith families is what I found as well. I had thought that my Great Aunt had been mistaken. But with LibraLady's information being very similar to what I have been told, I am now wondering if my Great Aunt was right.
Thank you again for all of the information.
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My grandmother knew the family who were killed and their name was Hallam as my mother was friendly with their daughter called Brenda who was killed.........
Hi Kelly , Libralady and All
If you do a search for HALLAM Brenda for 1939 to 1945 you will only get two for England and Wales, both in 1940 and both under 1 year old. I'm not sure how complete their WW 2 indexing is.
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
The July, August, September 1940 Quarter has one Death with Brenda Hallam registered in the REGISTRATION DISTRICT of Nottingham, for the whole of WW 2. (Unfortunately you can't double check WW 2 on GRO (gov.uk) Order a Certificate, for free, because the most recent indexed was 1916). You can still get the details off the Free BMD Image to order direct from GRO, but ordering is too risky without more research.
Looking at the Air Raids list (a newspaper list, so not exhaustive), a child was claimed to be killed in a raid on 30th August 1940. The child's name was not mentioned and there may be children amongst the other raid casualty figures too.
The Censor stopped the newspaper saying exactly where bombs fell, to prevent the Germans from checking the accuracy of their radio beam system guided aircraft. But quite often the affected City ran the account in the newspaper, just saying a Midlands Town or City, for City.
The Nottingham Journal of Monday 2 September 1940, confirms a Baby 18 months has been killed in the Midlands (a big area). The baby was taken to hospital and died on Saturday.
This and 1939 to 1945 needs researching at the main Local Studies or Nottingham County Archives, who should have some Civilian Casualty Cards of War Deaths, or files of the War Committee / Civil Defence / Fire Brigade Occurrence or Report Books/ ARP Minute Files, Ambulance Books, Police, or a surviving Emergency Planning Register. Usually, one record survives, but how detailed. If a council house, some of their files are in archives, or Committees dealing with rebuilding, or rehousing those affected.
A lot of people moved in WW 2, but sometimes a pre-war street Directory or Electoral Register may help to confirm the family name at an address, when only the address and casualty numbers are given at an address, to enable you to research further.
If you feel two Hallams have died, you can check Hallam only Deaths by the Quarter or Year too.
How reliable is the name Brenda for Hallam? But try an email to the Main Local Studies Library and the County Archives? Of course a child might be born, before the parents married having the mother's surname, so in the Deaths Register there won't be Hallam, that is if you are looking for a child?
Brenda could be a middle name, but middle names were only indexed as initials in some of these Registrar indexes.
A family recalling verbally the death was at Rolls Royce (RR), could mean killed in the raid on RR, but not on RR premises.
A copy Full Death Certificate will cost £9.25, but some may not mention raids, but died in hospital. It is too risky to order a Certificate, but make further enquiries.
Regards Mark
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The woman was called Brenda Hallam and was my mother's bridesmaid when she married in 1939, my mother was Margaret Housley nee Thorpe....they worked together at the Meadow Dairy in Nottingham, which incidently was also bombed in the war....My mum says you could hear the pigs squealing for miles.......was a terrible time.......The gap in the houses on Ruffs Drive is still there.........my mother's family were called Thorpe and lived at 330 Westville........
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My grandmother knew the family who were killed and their name was Hallam as my mother was friendly with their daughter called Brenda who was killed.........
Hi Kelly , Libralady and All
If you do a search for HALLAM Brenda for 1939 to 1945 you will only get two for England and Wales, both in 1940 and both under 1 year old. I'm not sure how complete their WW 2 indexing is.
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
The July, August, September 1940 Quarter has one Death with Brenda Hallam registered in the REGISTRATION DISTRICT of Nottingham, for the whole of WW 2. (Unfortunately you can't double check WW 2 on GRO (gov.uk) Order a Certificate, for free, because the most recent indexed was 1916). You can still get the details off the Free BMD Image to order direct from GRO, but ordering is too risky without more research.
Looking at the Air Raids list (a newspaper list, so not exhaustive), a child was claimed to be killed in a raid on 30th August 1940. The child's name was not mentioned and there may be children amongst the other raid casualty figures too.
The Censor stopped the newspaper saying exactly where bombs fell, to prevent the Germans from checking the accuracy of their radio beam system guided aircraft. But quite often the affected City ran the account in the newspaper, just saying a Midlands Town or City, for City.
The Nottingham Journal of Monday 2 September 1940, confirms a Baby 18 months has been killed in the Midlands (a big area). The baby was taken to hospital and died on Saturday.
This and 1939 to 1945 needs researching at the main Local Studies or Nottingham County Archives, who should have some Civilian Casualty Cards of War Deaths, or files of the War Committee / Civil Defence / Fire Brigade Occurrence or Report Books/ ARP Minute Files, Ambulance Books, Police, or a surviving Emergency Planning Register. Usually, one record survives, but how detailed. If a council house, some of their files are in archives, or Committees dealing with rebuilding, or rehousing those affected.
A lot of people moved in WW 2, but sometimes a pre-war street Directory or Electoral Register may help to confirm the family name at an address, when only the address and casualty numbers are given at an address, to enable you to research further.
If you feel two Hallams have died, you can check Hallam only Deaths by the Quarter or Year too.
How reliable is the name Brenda for Hallam? But try an email to the Main Local Studies Library and the County Archives? Of course a child might be born, before the parents married having the mother's surname, so in the Deaths Register there won't be Hallam, that is if you are looking for a child?
Brenda could be a middle name, but middle names were only indexed as initials in some of these Registrar indexes.
A family recalling verbally the death was at Rolls Royce (RR), could mean killed in the raid on RR, but not on RR premises.
A copy Full Death Certificate will cost £9.25, but some may not mention raids, but died in hospital. It is too risky to order a Certificate, but make further enquiries.
Regards Mark
Hi Mark,
After trying to research this information, I did find that one of my Great Great Uncles did die at Rolls Royce in Derby. Initially I thought my Great Aunt was wrong about the family member being killed by a bomb. After I found the information about Rolls Royce, I spoke to my Aunt again and she was still adamant that a family member did die when a bomb hit.
The Hallam family were quite a large family, so I am going to try and do some more research to see what I can find. It is very interesting that LibraLady's family can remember a similar story.
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The woman was called Brenda Hallam and was my mother's bridesmaid when she married in 1939, my mother was Margaret Housley nee Thorpe....they worked together at the Meadow Dairy in Nottingham, which incidently was also bombed in the war....My mum says you could hear the pigs squealing for miles.......was a terrible time.......The gap in the houses on Ruffs Drive is still there.........my mother's family were called Thorpe and lived at 330 Westville........
Thank you for all of the information Libralady. I think I am going to have to do some more digging, I had originally thought that my Great Aunt was confused. One of my Great Great Uncles did die at Rolls Royce but it wasn't war related. The Hallam family were quite a large family and I know some of the Hallam's did stay in Hucknall. I dont suppose your family can remember Brenda's parents names?
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Hucknall appears to come under the BASFORD Registration District? But see the note in the link.
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/basford.html
Mark
The woman was called Brenda Hallam and was my mother's bridesmaid when she married in 1939, my mother was Margaret Housley nee Thorpe....they worked together at the Meadow Dairy in Nottingham, which incidently was also bombed in the war....My mum says you could hear the pigs squealing for miles.......was a terrible time.......The gap in the houses on Ruffs Drive is still there.........my mother's family were called Thorpe and lived at 330 Westville........
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I am not disputing that you are wrong, I can only relate to what I have been told by my family, who unfortunately I cannot check with now as they are all deceased, I think Brenda's mother was called Joan and they were members of the Bourne Methodist Chapel on Watnall Road Hucknall .......My mother's family were the Thorpe's from 330 Westville....... Incidently, I also had an uncle who died whilst he was working at Rolls Royce which wasn't war related either, it was in 1964 and his name was Jack Thorpe, he had a massive stroke whilst doing his job aged 54 years, it was his Silver Wedding Anniversary day..........Nice corresponding with you......
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Hi Kelly
Ruffs Drive, is on the corner with Laughton Crescent where the Evans were killed, when an RAF Fairey Battle aircraft crashed.
The 5 EVANS are all registered in the December Quarter 1940, in the Registration District of BASFORD on two adjacent pages.
Rolls Royce Hucknall shared the aerodrome with RAF Hucknall. But he / she might be a Casualty of the RAF / Ministry of Aircraft Production (MAP), or an Air Ministry Dept, or Civil aircraft firm on contract to a Ministry or RAF.
If your Hallam relative was killed in England & Wales, his / her name should be registered on the General Register Office Index.
Mark
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Hi Kelly
Ruffs Drive, is on the corner with Laughton Crescent where the Evans were killed, when an RAF Fairey Battle aircraft crashed.
The 5 EVANS are all registered in the December Quarter 1940, in the Registrstion District of BASFORD on two adjacent pages.
Rolls Royce Hucknall shared the aerodrome with RAF Hucknall. But he / she might be an RAF / Ministry of Aircraft Production (MAP), or an Air Ministry Dept, or Civil aircraft firm on contract to a Ministry or RAF, Casualty.
If your Hallam relative was killed in England & Wales, his / her name should be registered on the General Register Office Index.
Mark
Hi Mark,
Thank you for all of the information.
I think I am going to have to go through all of my paperwork concerning the Hallam's. From memory I can't recall a Brenda, but the Hallam's was a large family. I may have to trace them back and then forward to find the names of their children.
I know one of my Great Great Uncles did die at Rolls Royce in Derby, I have a newspaper article that states he was electrocuted while working on a machine.
I think this maybe one of those family stories that I will not be able to prove either way.
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Hi
If your relative was actually an employee at RR works, it might be worth establishing who has their employee records for the year when your relative died, whether they are still with Personnel or Human Resources, or their Archives branches ...
https://www.rolls-royce.com/about/our-story/the-rolls-royce-heritage-trust.aspx
https://www.rolls-royce.com/about/our-story/the-rolls-royce-heritage-trust/branches/derby-and-hucknall-branch.aspx
But an air raid death might be mentioned more in the types of records, I have already given (outside authorities).
Kind regards Mark
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Hi Mark,
I know I contacted Rolls heritage trust some years ago. The gentleman that I spoke to there could not find any information.
However, I suppose it is worth another try.
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Hello Kelly
Deaths on company premises, might be sensitive and personal and may not have been passed to Archives. You could write to the Head of Human Resources, with some brief information, his name and date of birth and if possible an approximate year of death and/or which Factory.
Big companies had their own Fire Bigade (some also attended and assisted at outside incidents too), ask about their Fire Brigade Logs and the Fire Warden / Fire Watch Duty Log books.
Regards Mark
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Hi Mark,
I think I will write to them, hopefully they have some information.
Thank you once again for all of your help. You have given me lots of new possible records to try. Hopefully this time I get a bit further with my research.
Thank you once again it is truly appreciated.
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Just been a report on EAST Midlands Today that a memorial was unveiled at Rolls Royce Derby. To the people killed in 1942 when a single airplane dropped one bomb on the factory. Three houses were also damaged.The full story is on the BBC news site .
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Yes that was Derby, the original article was about Hucknall Rolls Royce.......libralady.
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Just been a report on EAST Midlands Today that a memorial was unveiled at Rolls Royce Derby. To the people killed in 1942 when a single airplane dropped one bomb on the factory. Three houses were also damaged.The full story is on the BBC news site .
Hi Larkspur
Thank you for your reply. I will go and have a look at the BBC News site. My 2x Great Uncle worked at Rolls Royce in 1942, which is also the year he died. However he wasn't killed in a war related incident.
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B@gggrrrrr that is me trying to do things on my phone.....never works ☺
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I found this if it helps the only ppl of hucknall to die in WWII
All five members of the Evans family died when a Fairey Battle light bomber plunged into their home on its way to Hucknall Aerodrome, in September 1940.
They were later buried in a pauper's grave in Hucknall Cemetery.
Campaigner Dorothy Bevins, a distant relative, said about £2,000 is needed for a headstone on the unmarked grave.
Plaque for pilot who died in the house crash
Image caption There is a plaque for the Polish pilot in Hucknall cemetery
Alice and Albert Evans, 28, and their children Ronald, eight, Alice, six, and John, two, died in their home in Laughton Crescent, on the Ruffs Estate.
The Polish pilot was also killed in the crash and buried in Hucknall Cemetery after being given a full military funeral with a headstone provided by the War Graves Commission.
Mrs Bevins said the family, who lived close to the airfield, "paid the ultimate price" and should be commemorated.
Cemetery plot where the family are buried
Image caption Dorothy Bevins wants to buy the unmarked grave and have a gravestone installed
She said: "I want to buy the grave and fit a headstone on it. It's important for the family and for the Hucknall community and our heritage.
"They were the only people in [the town] to be killed during the war."
Alice Braybrook, 94, lived nearby and remembers hearing the huge bang when the plane hit the house.
She said: "I was ironing in the kitchen, I heard this plane coming down and I thought they were dive-bombing.
"[Then] the man next door walked in [covered] in blood."
Mrs Bevins said would also like a memorial service to be held in the family's honour.
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Hi Shaddyboy37
Thank you for your help.
That is also the information that i found.
Kind regards
Kelly