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I have a Roll of Officers in the Royal Army Medical Corps.
It lists all Officers commissioned between 1898 - 1960 with a birth date, qualifications, medical school and brief military history
There are 2088 Medical Officers and 441 Non-Medical Officers
I am more than happy to look information up
Simon
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Also online is the Johnston Roll, listing all Officers who served with the Army Medical Services between 1727 - 1898
http://www.archive.org/details/rollofcommisssio00johnuoft
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Hello Simon.
I would be most grateful for all and anything you might have on:
Captain George Agincourt Hodges, RAMC
George Hodges was an Australian who had remained in England after completing his medical studies at the University of Edinburgh.
(His brother, Captain Norman Hodges, ASC, MC, travelled from Australia to England and enlisted in 1915. He is buried in St Pol British Cemetary).
I’ve been unable to find an MIC.
I’m interested in his military history. I understand he is likely to be mentioned in the Tank Corps’ War Diary; and could be mentioned in the DDMS’ War Diary for whatever Division the Tank Corps served with. I haven’t pursued that (yet) as I cannot access them from Australia.
I’m also interested in his medal citation. I have been unable to find it in the London Gazette or Lancet or British Medical Journal.
I’ve copied below some short biographical details:
~August 1915 RAMC T / Lieutenant *1*
23rd August 1916 T/ Captain *2*
< October 1918 RMO,*3* 5th Battalion, Tank Corps *4*
30th May 1919 Military Cross *5*
*1* Given the ‘rule of thumb’ that doctors enlisted into the RAMC at the rank of Lieutenant, and were promoted to Captain one year later. The 1918 Army List records Captain Hodges’ promotion to Captain as 23rd August 1916, see immediately below.
*2* 1918 Army List, p 1707.
*3* Given Captain Hodges was attached to 5th Battalion, Tank Corps at the time of the actions leading to his award of the Military Cross (see The London Gazette, 30 May 1919, page 6828, referenced below) it follows he was the unit’s Regimental Medical Officer.
*4* Being the unit Captain Hodges was attached to at the time of the actions leading to his award of the Military Cross. See The London Gazette, 30th May 1919, page 6828, referenced immediately below
*5* The London Gazette, Issue 3170, published 30th May 1919, Fifth Supplement, 3 June 1919, page 6828, column 2, last entry,
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/31370/pages/6828
Thanks and Regards,
Peter
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Hi
Have you any info on Capt John Clifford Metcalfe MC he was with the West Riding Field Ambulance KIA 1918.Think he was a surgeon at Leeds General Infirmary pre war
Thanks
Ady
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Hello,
I hope I have done this correctly.....very new at this!
I am looking for any information at all regarding my grandfather Dr Arthur Turnbull, dob 20th July 1884. He was born in Glasgow and went to university there. All I know is that he took a commission in the RAMC in 1914, entering with the rank of Lieutenant, I think. I am writing a biography about him, so would be grateful for anything at all.
Many thanks whoever you are!
A
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I would love to see the entry for Captain James Ernest Thomas Munn (died 3 Dec 1943) if possible.
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Hi Duck,
Any sightings of Captain James Duncan Lyle (b 1887) shown on a cert in 1918 as Captain in RAMC?
Many thanks,
Nanny Jan
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The book 'Duck' mentions is;
“ Commissioned Officers in the Medical Services of the British Army 1660 – 1960: Vol. II 1898 – 1960”
Drew, Robert
1st eds reprinted
Wellcome Historical Medical Library 1968
It is quite comprehensive. You will need to go to a large, major library. I was able to view a copy at the Mitchell Library in Glasgow.
Good luck in your research.
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Hi Simon
I would appreciate it if you could please search for any details of my great grandfather Thomas Sullivan.
He enlisted with the South Africa Oversea Expeditionary Force in August 1915 and his papers state that he previously served with the RAMC (3yrs) and the Cape Town Highlanders (295 days).
He died of pneumonia on 06 January 1916 in at the Mount Dore Military Hospital in Bournemouth and is buried at Bournemouth East Cemetery. None of the military papers that I have acquired from the South African Defence Force indicate his date of birth for which I am eagerly searching.
His papers list him as being born in Maryborough, Ireland and being 37 at the date of enlistment in South Africa in 1915, however, his tombstone in 1916 lists his age as 43....?
I look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks and kind regards,
Kevin Sykes
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Hi
This photo has recently come into my possession and I'm wondering if you can help to identify the gentleman concerned. I think the uniform is RAMC and the rank is possibly Captain. I think the bar on his uniform is for a Military Cross. There is a faint name underneath which is ....... Watson, Edinr (see 2nd pic). I can't make out the first name but it looks like P (or R) uian. I'm presuming this is not the name of the photographer since it is so faint. Any help you can offer will be greatly appreciated.
MeeToo
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Does your list include acting officers?
My father, Noel John Smith FRCS, was possibly involved in the Dunkirk evacuation as a Major.
I was told he evacuated an ambulance convoy at Wimereux.
So it was for only a short period as he became a consultant at Peterborough afterwards.
Many thanks
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My paternal grandfather Otto V Payne was granted a temporary commission in the Army Medical Service on 1 June 1917. He relinquished his commission as a Temporary Captain on 14 February 1919, after which he went back to his GP practice in Alton Hampshire. His medal card from the National Archives states that the theatre of war first served in was Salonika and date of entry therein was 14 August 1917. He might have gone out to Salonika with one of the many General Hospitals formed and sent there to cope with the high incidence of sickness particularly malaria, and enemy submarine interference with evacuation of sick and wounded by sea. Any information from your list would be gratefully received.
Richard Vaughan-Payne.
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Hi Simon,
Are you able to look up Major Hugh Ross Macintyre, DSO, MC + Bar, WW1 Trio with MID, MD, PHD, Royal Army Medical Corps, and let me know every thing you can find on him.
I am currently researching the life of this Officer and own his Miniature Medal Group. What I have so far is:-
Major Hugh Ross Macintyre, DSO, MC + Bar, WW1 Trio with MID, MD, PHD, Royal Army Medical Corps. His back story is fascinating born in NewChwang China 1882, (his father was a missionary) Educated in Edinburgh Scotland, sent from China at age 8 to reside with his grand parents in Edinburgh and attended George Watsons College then on to Edinburgh University winning Medical prize medals, Practical Pathology 1902, Medicine 1903-04, Disease of the Eye 1903 and Practice of Physics Mouat Scholar 1904. From the Medical register 1907 he qualified 1904 of ED Uni and is at 23 Norma Rd Waterloo, Liverpool as M.B., Bac. Surg.
On the 1911 census he is at Sydal Lodge East Harlsey Northallerton Yorkshire, employed as a Registered Medical Practitioner. I discovered an interesting piece of information from this document I noted his place of birth being NewChwang China, but also at this same address was a Katherine Leitch also born NewChwang China, after some research his sister, her husband also present is William Orr Leitch of Edinburgh.
Hugh went to war 1914 entering the Theatre of War on 22nd December 1914, ended up 23 Division 69 Field Ambulance Italy 1919. I have copies of all three of his citation for Conspicuous Gallantry, I also have copies of the war diaries of the 69th FA from 1st January 1917 up to November 1917 when the Division moved to Italy. He won his first MC at Battle of Messines June 1917, he won a Bar to his MC, having been recommended for an immediate DSO, at the Battle of Menin Road, Menin Ridge ,Hill 60, 20th September 1917. He won his DSO at the 3rd Battle of the Piave River between 27th - 29th October 1918
On his return from the War took a PHD in Oxford 1919. From the 1919 Medical Register he and his wife also a Doctor practice at Park Hill Sanatorium in Liverpool manly for wounded soldiers where he died on 23 February 1932.
I am looking for help in finding a photograph of Hugh be it military or a in civilian life.
What was his wife's maiden on the medical register she is Lilian Sarah Macintyre she is Scottish.
On the military side of things what unit was Hugh with from 1914 up until January 1917 when I know he was with 69th Field Ambulance 23rd Division I am also looking for confirmation that he moved with this unit and Division in Nov/Dec 1917 to Italy. I know he was in Italy by Oct of that year to win his DSO but did he move with them. The reason I am asking this is because I have a photograph of a RAMC Major supporting an MC riband with 20th FA on 19th June 1918 at Hesdin near Arras.
I did find on Ancestry Hugh on a family tree I sent a message through to the tree holder who on there profile was willing to help people in research etc, but after 3 months still no reply.
Hence my request for assistance, a photograph would be the icing on the cake.
With kind regards
Hiram
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I have found the posting (2012) by Bonnie 21 (A.) about her grandfather, Dr Arthur Turnbull, Lieut. RAMC. I encountered Turnbull when researching the medical history of Malta in World War I for a talk I am to give this evening to the Osler Club of London. I have some information on his subsequent political career, his medical work in Glasgow, and his work as an author and translator of medical texts. But I have frustratingly little about his time with the RAMC in Malta. Can we be of help to each other ?
William G.
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Re: Lt Arthur Turnbull RAMC. Are you aware of the story reported in the Daily Telegraph of 30 March 1916 about Lt Turbull's "invasion" of the House of Commons to demonstrate about providing protection for the heads of British soldiers from shrapnel fire. He had recently returned from Malta where I presume he had been dealing with British casualties from Gallipoli.
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Thank you, RV Payne. Yes, while preparing a talk on Medicine in Malta in WWI, I saw the "100 years ago" item in the Daily Telegraph (30.3.1916/2016) recording Arthur Turnbull's dramatic protest in the House of Commons. Looking him up in Drew's list of Commissioned Officers in the RAMC (as recommended by Duck) (both in a library and on-line) was unsuccessful : the years 1914 to 1917 appear to be missing. Googling and newspaper on-line archives gave details of his standing for 3 by-elections in 1916, with a message similar to his Commons protest. The Medical Directory gave details of his subsequent career at Glasgow Western Infirmary, including writing one book and translating 2 others.
I wonder whether Bonnie 21, since her last posting, has made further progress towards writing his biography.
William G
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I'm looking for a John James Kay reported to be a Major in the RAMC deceased by 1941
Son John (James) Kay married 1941 in Ipswich also in Army.I cannot find anything on John James Kay snr.
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Hi.
I am looking for whatever information could be available about my Grand Father Maj Dr Vidya Sagar Trivedi who studied at the Edinburgh University was part of the Ramc.
I would be overwhelmed if I could find details about his life and his speculated marriage to a British / Scottish national.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi;
I am looking for whatever information could be available about my Grand Father Maj Dr Vidya Sagar Trivedi who studied at the Edinburgh University was part of the Ramc.
I would be overwhelmed if I could find details about his life and his speculated marriage to a British / Scottish national.
Thanks in advance.
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His only appearance on line as far as I can see is in a list of students listing him as registered in Scotland in 1929 having studied at King George's Medical College Lucknow Aug 1st 1928 and others in India..
He does not appear in the Wellcome Library book "Commissioned Officers in the Medical Services of the British Army 1660-1960". He does not come up at the National Archives. This suggests he did not serve in the RAMC.
However, there is a Major NS Trivedi who served in the Indian Army Medical Corps in World War 2 (I find reference only, no detail). He could well have served alongside the RAMC. Here is the guide to finding records http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/indian-army-personnel/
I find no marriage but I have access only to England and Wales so if he married in Scotland you would need to look in Scotlands People (or someone may be able to look for you). If he married in India the British Library may be able to help http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/contact.aspx
I find a death registration in Brent London Oct 1999 giving date of birth 12 Jan 1912.
Good luck
MaxD
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Hey Max,
Thank you for your response and I appreciate you taking out time to help me find details of my grandfather. I’m Sure that the record of the education in Lucknow you have is hid itself however he was Maj VS Trivedi and don’t know if there could be a duplication of the same dates but diff people. My grandfather passed in 1986 hence cant be sure if it’s the same person your speaking of. BecaUse you mention there is a death registered in 1999. All other details you mention are right
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The Lucknow reference is simply listing the previous medical training received by him before he began training in Edinburgh, at that time he has no rank, he was just a student. The date of death I found should be ignored, the date of birth was 1912 which cannot be your grandfather.
The most significant finding though is that he does not appear in the definitive listing of RAMC Officers and there is no officers record for him at the National Archives. I suggest you follow the National Archives guide as he most likely served in the Indian Army Medical Corps.
Good luck
MaxD
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There is a passenger record for a Vidyasagar Trivedi, age 27, born 1907 , doctor, leaving from London to Bombay on Viceroy of India. Date of departure: 15th February 1934.
Last address in UK: 11 George Square, Edinburgh. Country of future permanent residence; India
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A possible marriage with a Scottish link in 1932:
Vidyasagar Trivedi
Margaret Reilly
St Giles Edinburgh
685/4 1069
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Think this maybe his wife leaving for Bombay with a child:
6th September 1935, on the Moldavia
Margaret Trivedi, age 21, last permanent UK address: Reilly, 60 New Hunterfield, Gorebridge. Country of intended permanent residence: India
Bala Trivedi, age one, female
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Looks like there were two children born to the marriage in Scotland:
Suniti Devi Trivedi, female, born 1933 Edinburgh. Died 1933 St Andrew, Edinburgh
Bala Devi Trivedi, female, born 1934 George Square.
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Margaret Trivedi returned to England, into Liverpool, on the Strathhaver. 24th May 1945
Occupation: Nurse. Address in UK: T Reilly, New Hunter Field, Gorebridge, Midlothian. Country of intended permanent residence; Scotland.
No children mentioned.
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Hey sgf28,
Thanks a lot for your detailed information.. Yes this is absolutely right.. wow i can't imagine that am finally getting closer to finding the details of my grandfather. My mother used to mention the fact that he was married to someone called Margaret and had children from her and this is so overwhelming to finally have been confirmed. All her life she has been looking for these details so that one day she can make peace with the fact that she has a sister living in some corner of the world and that she would surely like to touch base with their next generation.
you've really put a huge smile on my face am so excited to inform her tomorrow about my findings with the help of people in this forum.
While i continue my endeavor to find more details about his life i'd love to hear if you find anything else.. in due course shall share his picture here as well.
Oh yes i forgot to mention that my grand father was also awarded the victoria cross during his time in the medical corps (either the RAMC or IAMC)
Thanks a million.
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Thats my Grandfather pic whilst he was studying in Edinburgh
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He was definitely in the Indian Army Medical Corps, he is listed as such in the London Gazette of 29 November 1945 in the list of the awards of a Mention in Despatches. He was not a VC recipient.
MaxD