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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Fife => Topic started by: Evelina on Wednesday 11 February 09 19:34 GMT (UK)
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Hi all, I am looking for info on or descendants of the "Laing" family. Anyone got Laings in their family?
My 1st definate is James Laing married to Christian Campbell in Larbert, Stirling in 1783. They had at least 10 children all in Torryburn in Fife. James was a schoolmaster and died in 1834 in Torryburn. Christian died in 1838 in Torryburn. I do believe James's parents maybe Thomas Laing & Margaret Russall who married in 1752 in Denny but cannot prove this as yet. And I believe James himself was born in Denny in 1755.
Children Jean, Thomas, Margaret, James, John, John, Elizabeth, Duncan, Peter & William. 7 of the children died in Torryburn 1 in the South Leith Poorhouse and 1 unknown, the other my direct ancestor James died in Dunfermline in 1867.
James born 1791 married Margaret Hunter in 1823 in Falkirk. She was from Fossoway and they had at least 8 children. Born in Fossoway, Torryburn, Muckhart, Beath, Alva & Stirling, the family moved about a lot. James as I said died in Dunfermline, Margaret in alloa in 1882. Children Peter, John, James, Elizabeth, Isabella, Mary, Christian, Elizabeth. 2 died in Kingseat (1 of them my direct ancestor james), 1 in Sauchie, 1 in Leith and 1 in Australia, 3 unknown.
James born 1831 (the 3rd) married Margaret Morrison in Dunfermline in 1855 and died in 1912, Margaret in 1908. They had 12 children in Alloa, Halbeath, Carnock, Townhill & Cowdenbeath. Children Margaret, Isabella, Mary, James, John, Christina, William, Peter, William, Smart, Ann & Elizabeth.
Thanks Evelina
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Hi Evelina
My LAING family line are/were based (more or less) in and around the East of Fife - away from the places you mention in your post.
My maternal Grandfather's mother CHRISTIAN was a LAING. This is her entry from my tree:
CHRISTIAN LAING was born 15 Nov 1842 in Kilrenny, Fife, and died 03 Jan 1911 in Durie's Broom, Scoonie, Fife. She married ANDREW DRUMMOND 10 Jan 1863 in Carnbee, Fife, son of JAMES DRUMMOND and CHRISTIAN STEVENSON. He was born Abt. Oct 1840 in Pittenweem, Fife, and died 30 Aug 1913 in Balgove, St Andrews & St Leonards, Fife.
If you see a connection, I'd be happy to exchange information with you.
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Hi Chiad, Thanks for replying but I am afraid the East of Fife 'LAINGS' are not related to mine. i have come across quite a few in the North of Fife too but again no connection, sorry Evelina
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Thanks Evelina
Glad I can discount 'the Laings from the west' as I got very confused a while back with my Drummond line when Torryburn, Dunfermline, etc., appeared and I went way out on the wrong branch! The weird thing was they all seemed to share the same Christian names and (approximate) dates of birth!
Good luck with your searches :)
Regards
Chaid Fhear
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I too have Laings from East Fife, are any of yours in the Dundee area? My paternal great great grandmother was Jemima Dunbar Laing, 1871 - 1954. She died in Thornton, central Fife.
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Hi Ostler
As far as I know the LAING branch of my tree hasn't grown out northwards over the Tay from Fife ... at least not that I've found yet :P
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Hi,
I have some Laings from Auchtertool, by Kirkcaldy.... is this near?
Lynda
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'My' Laings I traced back to a John, c.1780, of Cupar. His son was a gardener at Pitcairlie/Pitcairly House, Newburgh Parish, likewise one of his sons. Another gardened in St. Andrews, another in Kirkcaldy. Have still to follow up some of the families.
MairiD
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OK folks - here's some twigs from my LAING tree that I'm currently progressing to see if there's a connection with any of you:
DAVID LAING was born Abt. 1818 in Kilrenny, Fife, and died 11 Nov 1901 in Balass, Cupar, Fife. He married CHRISTIAN SKINNER 21 May 1842 in Kilrenny, Fife, daughter of JOHN SKINNER and CATHERINE BALFOUR. She was born Abt. 1819 in Kilconquhar, Fife, and died 12 Feb 1890 in Broom, Scoonie, Fife.
Notes for DAVID LAING:
1851 Census Residing at Bowhouse, Elie, Fife
1861 Census Residing at Seagate, Kingsbarns, Fife
1871 Census Residing at Sunnybraes Farm, Largo, Fife
Cause of Death: Old age
Occupation: Bet. 1860 - 1871, Farm Servant, Ploughman, Agricultural Labourer
Notes for CHRISTIAN SKINNER:
1851 Census Residing at Bowhouse, Elie, Fife
1861 Census Residing at Seagate, Kingsbarns, Fife
1871 Census Residing at Sunnybraes Farm, Largo, Fife
Cause of Death: Cerebral Haemorrhage 3 days; Bronchitis
Children of DAVID LAING and CHRISTIAN SKINNER are:
i. CATHERINE LAING, b. Abt. 1840, Thornton, Fife.
Notes for CATHERINE LAING:
1851 Census Residing at Bowhouse, Elie, Fife
ii. CHRISTIAN LAING, b. 15 Nov 1842, Kilrenny, Fife; d. 03 Jan 1911, Durie's Broom, Scoonie, Fife.
iii. JOHN LAING, b. 27 Sep 1844, Kilrenny, Fife; d. 03 Jul 1899, Scoonie Cotton, Scoonie, Fife.
iv. THOMAS LAING, b. 11 Jul 1847, Cupar, Fife; d. 06 Dec 1922, 14 Castle Street, Cupar, Fife.
v. WILLIAM SKINNER LAING, b. 30 Mar 1849, Newark, Elie, Fife; d. 20 Aug 1923, Cambo Cottages, Kingsbarns, Fife.
vi. DAVID LAING, b. 13 Jul 1851, Elie, Fife; d. 18 Mar 1931, 'Thistle Cottage', Bridgend, Ceres, Cupar, Fife.
vii. ROBERT SKINNER LAING, b. 10 Oct 1854, Elie, Fife; d. 14 Sep 1925, Wemyss Memorial Hospital, Denbeath, Fife.
iii. JAMES LAING, b. 21 Jun 1857, Elie, Fife; d. 22 Apr 1896, Edinburgh Royal Infirmary, St Giles, Edinburgh, Midlothian; m. JANET KINNEAR, 22 May 1876, Methil, Wemyss, Fife; b. Abt. 1853; d. 10 Feb 1929, 12 Wellerby Road, Methil, Buckhaven, Fife.
Notes for JAMES LAING:
1861 Census Residing at Seagate, Kingsbarns, Fife
1871 Census Residing at Sunnybraes Farm, Largo, Fife
Cause of Death: Tubercular Cystitis 2 months
Occupation: Joiner
Residence: Jordan Terrace, Leven, Fife
Notes for JANET KINNEAR:
Cause of Death: Chronic Bronchitis; Influenza
Occupation: 1876, Mill worker
ix. GEORGE LAING, b. 31 Jul 1860, Kingsbarns, Fife.
Notes for GEORGE LAING:
1861 Census Residing at Seagate, Kingsbarns, Fife
1871 Census Residing at Sunnybraes Farm, Largo, Fife - scholar
CHRISTIAN LAING, b. 15 Nov 1842 was my maternal great granny
OK ... so it's not a lot, but it's a start!
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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My grandfather,s sister Margaret Mann m Thomas Laing in 1913 in Leven. He was son of James Laing & Jane Kinnear. Christine.
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My grandfather,s sister Margaret Mann m Thomas Laing in 1913 in Leven. He was son of James Laing & Jane Kinnear. Christine.
Hi Christine
This sounds interesting :) ... have you a place and d.o.b. for Thomas and more detail for his parents?
I'd like to hear
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Hi Christine,
I have a Great Aunt who married a Laing. Details are Mary Ann Allan married George Laing, ploughman of Gourdies Hill on 13 December 1865. George Laing's parents are listed as George Laing, Flesher (dec) and Anne Robertson.
Regards,
Ian
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i have isabella laing / lang from denny her parents were wlliam agnes (scott) isabella married william lamond from bonhill
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Hi Ian and JRT
Nice to see such a sudden interest in the LAING 'family'. Hopefully we'll all get something out of it.
Neither of you has a connection to my LAING branch but Bonhill does feature for my Great Grandfather Crawford's line and his Davidson marriage there in 1861. SIX of there seven bairns died there and are buried in Bonhill Kirkyard ... the seventh surviving to become my paternal Grandfather
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Chiad Fhear,
All the info I have is from Thomas & Maggie,s marriage cert.Thomas Thomson Laing was 22y a miner & lived at 127 Denbeath, Buckhaven , his parents James Laing & Janet Kinnear one of the witness,s was Janet Kinnear Laing.At some time they moved to Falkirk I have some births for them.
Next visit to Edinburgh I,ll look them up. Christine.
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Christine
I notice the name Rollo in your 'signature'. Who, what, when, where, why? Do tell!
I have a Rollo who married one of my Drummond ancestors here in Fife and am also doing a bit of sleuthing for a Rollo buddy of mine.
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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David Laing married Anne Small 6 Dec 1800 in Carnbee. I think he probably died before 1855. David and Anne had at least seven children:
John born 11 Jun 1803, died 25 Feb 1820 in Carnbee.
Thomas born 9 Sep 1805, married Elizabeth Clark 24 Dec 1831 in Carnbee.
David born 15 Jun 1808.
Elizabeth born 30 May 1810.
Isabel born 2 Apr 1813.
Robert born 9 Oct 1816 in Pittenweem, married Agnes Mackie 28 Nov 1835 in St Andrews, died 28 Aug 1861 in Leuchars.
George born 26 Apr 1818 and died aft 1862.
Thomas Laing and Elizabeth Clark had at least three children:
Mary Anne born 1836.
James born 1840, married Isabella Brunton 28 Nov 1863 at St Andrews.
Elizabeth born 1847.
Robert Laing and Agnes Mackie had at least three children:
Anne born 1835.
David born 17 Dec 1837 in Cameron, married Catherine Harley 31 Oct 1863 in Forgan, died 4 Aug 1909 in Kilrennie.
George born 24 Jul 1842.
James Laing and Isabella Brunton had at least four children:
Ann born 19 Feb 1865 in Ceres, died bef 1867.
Elizabeth born 16 Oct 1866 in Forgan.
Annie born 1867 in Ceres.
James born 1879 in Leuchars.
David Laing and Catherine Harley had at least eight children:
Mary Ann born 28 Feb 1863 (illegitimate) in Newport, married John Mitchell 24 Jan 1890 in Glencarse. Had a son, William.
Robert born 4 Jan 1865 in Dundee.
Margaret F born app 1868.
Agnes born 28 Jan 1869 in Dundee.
Jemima Dunbar born 25 Dec 1871 in Lochee, married Robert Brotherton Small 5 Mar 1897 in Crail, died 28 Mar 1954 in Thornton, Markinch.
Elsie Allardice born 29 Oct 1873 in Balruddery, Liff & Benvie.
Catherine Harley born 24 Dec 1875 in Claverhouse, Mains, died 30 Aug 1958.
Anne born 26 Feb 1878 in Claverhouse.
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Chiad Fhear,
All the info I have is from Thomas & Maggie,s marriage cert.Thomas Thomson Laing was 22y a miner & lived at 127 Denbeath, Buckhaven , his parents James Laing & Janet Kinnear one of the witness,s was Janet Kinnear Laing.At some time they moved to Falkirk I have some births for them.
Next visit to Edinburgh I,ll look them up. Christine.
Hi Christine
This a bit of double-posting but we have a link ... can you post or PM the information for Thomas and Maggie that you have please?
I have this info about his brother GEORGE LAING, b. 31 Jul 1860, Kingsbarns, Fife.
1861 Census Residing at Seagate, Kingsbarns, Fife
1871 Census Residing at Sunnybraes Farm, Largo, Fife - scholar
I look forward to more :)
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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My grandfather,s sister Margaret Mann m Thomas Laing in 1913 in Leven. He was son of James Laing & Jane Kinnear. Christine.
Hi again Christine
I'm not sure if you have the relevant dates and/or documented proof or not but I've found on SP that Margaret was born in Scoonie in 1891 and died in Scoonie in 1963. Exact details will require spending Credits if not :o
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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I think there's a chance that this James Laing (who married Janet Kinnear) is a descendant of one of my Laings. :)
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I think there's a chance that this James Laing (who married Janet Kinnear) is a descendant of one of my Laings. :)
Guid on ye Ostler :)
A PM will get you a full Laing Report from my records this evening if you're interested.
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Very much so! I look forward to it. :)
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Hi ,
Maggie Mann,s parents were my gr-grandparents so I have a good bit about the Mann,s. I haven,t followed the Laing line but on my last visit to Edinburgh the info I got was more up to date so can,t put it on here so will PM you. Christine.
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Hi ,
Maggie Mann,s parents were my gr-grandparents so I have a good bit about the Mann,s. I haven,t followed the Laing line but on my last visit to Edinburgh the info I got was more up to date so can,t put it on here so will PM you. Christine.
Many thanks Christine ... another door opens ... or is it another shoot sprouts? Whatever, it's all very interesting and I look forward to your message.
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Got me some more Laings!
Agnes Laing married William Muir 11 Dec 1814 at Balmarino. She was born c1789, daughter of William Laing and Janet Wemyss.
David Laing born c1833 to Thomas Laing and Elizabeth Clark married Jane Crombie 11 Jun 1856 in Dundee and died 27 Aug 1919 in Arncroach, Carnbee.
They had at least five children:
Andrew born c1858
James Crombie born 1 Apr 1863, Arncroach, died 9 Apr 1935, Arncroach
Mary Ann born 23 Dec 1868, Arncroach
David born 27 Apr 1873, Arncroach
Jane born 16 Apr 1875, Arncroach
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Hello All,
Thought I might as well join the Laing Fest. I have Jane/Jean Laing (b.1784) married to William Blyth (b.1794 in Balbirnie Burns). Jane was the daughter of David Laing (1772-1845) and Isabell (1773-1844). She was buried in Logie August 1849. William Blyth died in Markinch 19 July 1862. He was the son of John Blyth (1766-1820 and Grizzel Duncan (1772-1851).
Any connections?
Jack
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Hi again,
Another La(i)ng tale,
I looked again at the information on this site.
Google Clan Laing. Look at history of Laings and Langs. Then scroll down to Location sites----
Howe of Fife.
The latter gives the information that the Fife Laings originated in Auchtermuchty.
The site gave me a timely reminder to use Soundex which would cover Lang and Layng. Perhaps I may find two children who were listed on Censuses as a son/daughter and fitted in date and namewise but lack a birth certificate.
'My' Laings I traced back to John of Ard****?, Cupar, whose parents may have been William Laing and Janet Aves. His son seems to have founded a gardening dynasty from his lifetime at Pitcairlie House, Newburgh.
The second family I am interested in is that of David Laing, b. c. 1774 Kilmany. His parents were possibly William Laing and Ann Kinneir.
(Kinneir/Kinnear was a family who owned land in Kilmany. The names are therefore linked.)
David, a linen weaver, married a Jane/Jeannie Paton and had five children, including two boys, William also a linen weaver who died in Auchtermuchty and a Richard.
William married an Isabella Jamieson. Their issue; George b.c. 1844, David b.c. 1848, Margaret b.c. 1850, Robert b.c. 1852, william b.c. 1854, Jean b.c. 1858, and Andrew b.c. 1861.
Robert gardened at Ravelston in Edinburgh, Polinaise (sp?) Bannockburn, Melrose and Weem.
Mairi.
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Hi all - I am a Laing from Fife (married to one). My Laing line are from Carnbee and it would seem there is a connection to a branch of your Laings, Ostler i.e. my John Laing (married to Ann Black) and your David Laing (married to Ann Small) are brothers - if my research is correct as follows
John Laing (b 1740 Carnbee) m Margaret Greig (bc 1746 St.Andrews) 26/11/1773 Carnbee
Children: Ann (b1775 Carnbee)
John (b1778 Carnbee) m Ann Black (b1775 Carnbee) 3/6/1797 Carnbee
David (b1780 Carnbee) m Ann Small
James (b 1784 Carnbee)
Thomas (b1788 Carnbee)
John Laing and Ann Black had 10 children - Ann, Barbara, Margaret Mackie, John (b1803 Carnbee m Margaret Ramsay b1804 Kilconquhar on 6/9/1823 Carnbee), Isabel, Thomas, David, James, Alexander and William
John Laing and Margaret Ramsay had 5 children - Andrew (b1825 Carnbee m Margaret Gay b1819 Arngask on 9/11/1849 St.Andrews), William, Thomas, Margaret and Alexander
Andrew Laing and Margaret Gay had 2 children - John (b 1854 Kennoway m Jane Birrell b1851 Newton of Falkland
on 18/2/1879 Newton of Falkland) and William (b1857 Scoonie)
John Laing and Jane Birrell had 3 children - Andrew (b1883 Falkland m Mary Ness b 1878 Falkland on 2/4/1908 Falkland), John Birrell (b1884 Falkland) and Annie Gay (b1886 Falkland).
Andrew Laing and Mary Ness emigrated to Canada in 1908 and had 5 sons who were all born in Toronto. They returned to Fife, Scotland in 1924.
Would be interested to know if there is any other connections to the above from those of you researching Laings in Fife.
Sheenie
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Hi sheenie
Just wondering how you got the information about David Laing's (m Anne Small) parents? I've looked high and low for a death certificate but to no avail. I assumed he died before 1855 and that that was the end of it! I'm not doubting your research by any means, I hope you understand.
I very much look forward to your reply. :)
PS: Are you and your husband still in Fife?
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Hi Ostler
Understand completely - sign of a good researcher. Would agree that David Laing died pre 1855 and I have found the following info which I hope helps.
Working back - Census 1841: David Laing (age 60) his wife Ann and son George were living in Arncroach, Parish of Carnbee therefore his birth date would be c1780. According to the OPR of Marriage both David Laing and Ann Small were of the Parish of Carnbee and their witnesses were Thomas Small and John Laing (which are usually the names of the bride and bridegroom's fathers but not always the case). From SP I can find only one David Laing born in the Parish of Carnbee around this time i.e. David Laing 15/4/1780 to John Laing and Margaret Greig (GROS Data 413/0020 0194). The birth prior to that was in 1735 which can be discounted. With other sources namely the Pre 1855 Fife Death Index; FFHS Publication No 20 which includes Carnbee Heads 1821 and 1831 I have been able to link up the abodes, some deaths of the Laing Family pre 1855 together with the census returns.
I have also received communications from other descendants of John and David Laing and the Genealogy Centre in St.Andrews who were doing research for one of my husband's 2nd cousins in Canada and all of their info concurs with mine.
From the Pre 1855 Fife Death Index I found the following for a David Laing (ties in with the above info/dates so may or may not be the one we are looking for).
Name: David Laing
Abode: Arncroach
Died: 23/11/1847
Aged: 67
Occupation: Collier
Accidentally killed in Coal Fall at Balcormo
Source: OPR 413-4
I note from one of your other postings you were looking for info for Alexander Harley from Monimail/Moonzie - my x2 Gt Grandfather is Alexander Harley b 1809 in Moonzie but he died in 1886 in Kingsbarns. Both my husband and I are both Fifers and still here so if I can help in any way let me know.
Regards
Sheenie
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Hi ...just noticed this LAING discussion,
I have two lots in Fife ... but a very extensive line in Larbert/Falkirk area
Here are the Fife links ....
Dysart LAINGs
First Generation
1. James LAING .
James married Ann WILSON on 22 Oct 1857 in Dysart, Fife, Scotland.
They had the following children:
+ 2 M i. James LAING [Iron Turner] was born on 04 Aug 1867.
Second Generation
2. James LAING [Iron Turner] (James) was born on 04 Aug 1867 in Wemyss, Fife, Scotland.
James married Euphemia Lindsay SHORT daughter of John SHORT [Linen Weaver] and Elizabeth LINDSAY on 15 Jun 1888 in Dysart, Fife, Scotland. Euphemia was born on 17 Aug 1869 in Kennoway, Fife, Scotland. She died on 19 May 1953 in 114 Commercial St., Kirkcaldy, Scotland.
They had the following children:
3 F i. Elizabeth LAING was born in 1890 in Dysart, Fife, Scotland.
4 F ii. Annie Wilson LAING was born on 18 Apr 1892 in Dysart, Fife, Scotland. She died in 1972 in South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland.
Annie married John Gilroy GRAHAM on 04 Mar 1921 in Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland. John was born on 08 Jan 1895 in Burntisland, Fife, Scotland. He died in 1953 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland.
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Dunshelt LAINGs
First Generation
1. James LAING [Handloom Weaver] was born in 1817/1818 in Falkland, Fife, Scotland .
James married Agnes OLIPHANT . Agnes was born in 1811/1812 in Kettle, Fife, Scotland.
They had the following children:
2 F i. Agnes LAING was born in 1838/1839 in Dunshelt, Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland.
3 F ii. Jean LAING was born in 1841/1842 in Dunshelt, Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland.
+4 F iii. Elizabeth LAING was born in 1845. She died on 26 Feb 1910.
5 M iv. William LAING was born in 1846/1847 in Dunshelt, Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland.
6 F v. Mary LAING was born in 1849/1850 in Dunshelt, Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland.
Second Generation
4. Elizabeth LAING (James) was born in 1845 in Dunshelt, Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland. She died on 26 Feb 1910 in Newton of Falkland, Fife, Scotland. The cause of death was Heart Disease Dropsy.
Elizabeth married George INNES [Ploughman] son of George INNES [Gardener] and Mary BROWN on 08 Jan 1869 in Falkland, Fife, Scotland. George was born in 1848 in Kirkgate, Cupar, Fife, Scotland. He died on 03 Nov 1924 in Newton of Falkland, Fife, Scotland.
They had the following children:
7 F i. Agnes INNES [Handloom Weaver] was born on 15 Oct 1869 in Falkland, Fife, Scotland .
8 M ii. George INNES [Ploughman] was born in 1876 in Falkland, Fife, Scotland.
George married Hannah Thomson BRUCE daughter of Alexander BRUCE and Christina LAMBERT on 30 Sep 1898 in Star Parish, Kennoway, Fife, Scotland. Hannah was born on 03 Feb 1872 in Kennoway, Fife, Scotland.
Aye
DDJJAKE
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Sounds like pretty conclusive evidence to me, sheenie! Would love to get in touch about Harleys as well!
I am also a Fifer, so perhaps we could meet up sometime.
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I must ask, have you managed to get any further back than John Laing b1740? A quick glance at the IGI shows a couple of possibilities for his baptism. Especially John LAYNG b 18 Jan 1742, bap 24 Jan 1742 in Kilmany, son of Thomas Layng and Isabel Barklo (Barclay??).
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Hi DDJJake
I started this thread but so far i have not been lucky enough to find any LAING's related to mine but i am really glad to see others are matching up.
However you mention a Larbet/Falkirk connection. As I said in the 1st post I have James Laing married to Christian Campbell in Larbert, Stirling in 1783. His parents possibly Thomas Laing & Margaret Russall who married in 1752 in Denny.
If they are mine Thomas & Margaret had 9 children in Denny, do any of them tie into yours? Peter 1753, James 1755, Lachlane 1757, Peter 1758, Margaret 1760, Alexander 1762, Isobel 1765, Thomas 1767 & David 1772? Cheers Evelina
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Sorry Evelina ... no links to my 2 Laing lines of Larbert and Carronshore ... then Falkirk in 20th Century ... including the Barbara Laing who was mother of George Mitchell, Conductor of the famous TV and Stage, 'Black and White Minstrels'!
Aye
DDJJAKE
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Ok thanks DDJJAKE I will keep looking, Cheers Evelina
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Hi Ostler
More info on the Laings i.e. John Laing b 1740
John Laing born/bapt 7/12/1740 Carnbee (OPR-413/00200/0014) to John Laing and Anne Laing
Died 1/10/1805 Abode Kellies Mill, Carnbee Age 65
John and Anne also had a daughter Janet b 8/4/1744 Carnbee
So far unable to find any record of John and Anne's marriage - some possibilities on the IGI for their births though can't be sure.
Have quite bit on the Harleys so will get back to you on that one - in fact I am sure there is a connection between the Harleys/Laings somewhere along the line but will need to check it out.
Sheenie
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Looking forward to it. :) My Laings meet the Harleys with David Laing marrying Catherine Harley 31 Oct 1863 in Forgan Manse, Forgan. David was the son of Robert Laing and Agnes Mackie, Robert was in turn son of David Laing and Anne Small.
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On my travels today I found a headstone at Logie Churchyard with this:
ERECTED BY DAVID LAING
In memory of his wife
ISABELLA LAING
who died 4 June 1811(?) aged 71(?) years
Also his Daughter
CHRISTIAN
died 26 Feb 1811 aged 3(?) years
And of his son
DAVID
who died 22 March 1817 aged 8 years
And two children died in infancy
DAVID LAING
The erector of this stone
died 13 Decr 1813 aged 75 years
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Good morning all from the bright and sunny Kingdom 8)
Last evening I received a page from the 1851 Census taken in Aston near Birmingham:
15 Ct Upper Windsor Street
WILLIAM LAING Head 30 Railway Guard born Scotland, Fife
JESSIE LAING Wife 27 also born Scotland, Fife
JANET RITCHIE LAING Daur 1 born Warwickshire, Birmingham
This morning I did a search for more information ... as one does ... on the IGI and found a marriage for William and Jessie on 17 September 1848 at Old Church, Saint Pancras, London.
A deeper 'dig' found the young Janet born in 1849 and also another daughter Margaret born on 9 May 1856 in St Andrews & St Leonards, Fife
And then ...
a birth search for William brought one strong possibility born 4 March 1819 and baptised 14 March in Kilconquhar to David Laing and Margaret McPersin (Possibly McPherson)
a birth search for Janet brough a strong possibility born 27 August 1823 and baptised 31 August in Kingsbarns to James Ritchie and Janet ... wait for it ... LAING :)
They also appear in the 1861 Census living in St Andrews, Fife, but I haven't spent any credits to find out the address. I can search the microfilm in the University Library next week and get a copy for just 10 pence :o
Anyone got any further thoughts or details on this branch?
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Hi,
I have the index for 1861 census & if I ,ve read it correctly William & Jessie are at Rose Lane St Andrews. William,s birthplace is given as Kilconquhar , Jessie as Kingsbarn,s ,& Janet as Birmingham.
Christine.
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Silly old me Christine
I've just sent a PM to you then found this ... can you post the reference for their entry in the 1861 Census (Parish/ED/Page) it'll make it even easier to find on the roll of film?
Rose Lane shouldn't be too hard to find if you don't as it's relatively 'central' in the town
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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OK folks ... I've now got prints of the Census pages for 1861 and 1871 No 4 Rose Lane, St Andrews. The microfilm was quite badly scratched but the information is still quite legible - and the sum total ... just 20p!
William, Jessie, Janet and Margaret are shown on both. And, as a bonus, Jessies parents are also on the 1861 Census but just her father on the 1871 at the same address.
William is shown as a Land Labourer in 1861 then a Farmer of 25 Acres ten years later. Jessie's father is shown as a Retired Land Labourer in 1861 and Retired Farmer in 1871.
I haven't been in Rose Lane for a long time but I must stop off there when next I'm passing just to see what the accommodation is/was like. That part of the town is relatively unchanged externally.
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Re Rose Lane:
When walking home in the sunshine this afternoon I took the chance to look in Rose Lane. It lies between what is now the Baptist Church and the round turreted corner of a big house. It's wide enough to take a small lorry or biggish van, cobbled and on the west side has a row of two storey terraced houses.
No 4 - strangley enough - is FOR SALE by Murray Donald Drummond Cook :)
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Hi Evalina et al
Seems as if our "Laings in Fife and beyond" thread has gone off the boil 8)
Anyone found anything else to share?
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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I'm trying to find info for William Laing b 30/10/1857 Scoonie, Fife. Parents are Andrew Laing (b 1825 Carnbee) and Margaret Gay/Guy (b1819 Arngask). His elder brother was John Laing (b1854 Kennoway). William was listed with his parents in the 1871 Census living at Annsmuir Farm, Collessie and was aged 13.
Can't find any further info for him after 1871 i.e. if he moved from Fife, married etc. Anybody have any connection with him or advice where to try next?
Would be much appreciated
Sheenie
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Dear Evelina, I can connect into your line through James Laing and Margaret Hunter through their son, John, who m. 1) Isabella Wilson and 2) Margaret Moyes. I haven't done a lot of research on this line, as I am concentrating on Herds in Fife. I look forward to corresponding with you.
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Hi Treeclimber ... I hope your tree isn't like mine - FULL OF NUTS ;D
I notice you're concentrating on your HERD line in Fife. My great grandaunt Mary Pearson married a James Herd who was born 17 Sep 1834 at Arncroach, Carnbee. Maybe we could start a "HERD in Fife" thread to run in parallel with this one?
Oddly, James's mother was Christina Drummond ... who might yet be connected to my maternal Drummond line as well as the maternal Pearson one :-\
I've got some HERD information going back to about 1775 if you'd like to see it and compare it with yours. Can you PM me with your email address and I'll send it to you? It can't be attached here >:(
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Thanks! Yes, I do know of your Herd line and am working on it. I will e-mail you.
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Hi Treeclimber
I have done quite a bit on John & his descendants. How are you connected to him? He would be my 2nd great granduncle. I am descended from his brother James.
John & Isabella had 13 children that I can find. I can only find 1 child with his 2nd wife Margaret.
Cheers Evelina
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Dear Evelina, I have only found nine children from the first marriage and one from the second. Please send me a PM. Thanks.
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Does anyone have any information regarding David Laing married to a Rebecca Mudie? I believe David was born in Cameron, Fife, Scotland around 1811. He died around 1896. I am looking for any information regarding his parents or any brothers and sisters he may have had.
Thank You!
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Hi Alanda
I knew someone would come looking for this info sooner rather than later when I gathered it following a visit to Boarhills Churchyard not far from here in St Andrews.
I was looking for LAING information and came across a tall headstone - my photo of it has gone astray - but I noted the names and dates, etc., on it and did a wee bit of research when I got back home.
I first went to the 1841 Census and found:
Parish of Kingsbarns - Little Kilduncan
David Laing 30 Ag Lab (Agricultural Labourer)
Rebekca Laing 30
Agnes Laing 10
Ann Laing 8
Elizabeth Laing 6
John Laing 4
Margery Laing 2
David Laing 10 months
All were shown as 'Born in the County'
An OPR search on ScotlandsPeople narrowed their marriage to 25 December 1830 in Fife and the IGI (FamilySearch) confirmed that as Cameron and I also found:
Agnes born 8 Dec 1831 at Forgan
Anne born 7 Apr 1833 at Carnbee
John born 15 Nov 1836 at Forgan
Marjory born 26 Jun 1838 and Baptized 8 Jul 1838 at Kingsbarns
David born 4 Aug 1840 at Forgan
Mary Farmer Laing born 7 Aug 1842
Isabella born 26 May 1845 at Forgan
Janet born 29 Apr 1847 at Forgan
I couldn't connect them to 'my' tree (then) but I still kept hold of the information just in case the time came ... you know how it is in this genealogy game ;)
I hope this helps :)
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Thank You so much Chiad! I am from New Brunswick, Canada where some of David and Rebecca's kids moved to and I actually have found a picture of the tobstone of Rebecca Mudie Laing. I really appreciate your help. I am coming to Scotland in August and I am definately going to stop at the Boarshill Cemetery when I am there.
Alanda
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We have Drummonds connected to our Layngs
Christine
I have a Rollo who married one of my Drummond ancestors here in Fife and am also doing a bit of sleuthing for a Rollo buddy of mine.
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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These are my earliest Layngs - may have been spelled Laing prior to migration from Scotland. Several generations in my tree are in Mayo then in Dubllin.
1 John Layng
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Birth: 1740, Liney, Scotland?
Death: 1826, Castlebar?
According to Gertrude [Byatt] Layng, she was fairly sure the Layngs came from Scotland with Cromwell and their name was spelt 'Laing' in Scotland1
Spouse: Margarey Boyle2
Birth: c1745, Scotland?
Marriage: 26 Jun 1772, Killala Diocese, Co. Mayo, Ire2
Children: George Christen [?] (1775-1853)
? sister
1.1 George Christen [?] Layng
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Birth: 9 Apr 1775, Kilmoremoy [Killala] diocese3,2
Christening: 9 Apr 1775, Kilmoremoy [Killala] diocese
Death: 21 Feb 1853, Dromore, County Sligo2
George Layng
Baptism:
9 Apr 1775
Baptism Place:
Kilmoremoy, County Mayo, Ireland
Father:
John Layng
Mother:
Margaret
Source:
The Parish Registers of Kilmoremoy, County Mayo, Diocese of Killala: Baptisms 1768-1820; Marriages 1768-1823; and Burials 1768-1823. 21 pages.
The parish registers commence in 1801. Entries from 1768-1792 are from the Vestry Book. Kilmoremoy Parish served as the parish headquarters for the Union of Ardagh, County Mayo which included also the vicarages of Attymass, Ballynahaglish, Kilbelfad, and Kilgarvan. The church built in 1763 was at Ardnaree, County Mayo.
Spouse: Elizabeth2
Birth: c1780, Co Sligo? or Mayo?
Children: William (1800-)
Henry (1800-)
George (1800-1878)
Maggy? (1800-)
Edward (1813-1855)
John (1815-1861)
1.2 ? sister Layng
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SORRY LAING RESEARCHERS ... BEAR WITH ME 8)
Hi Sunnyhill
Very commendable :) but it would have helped if you'd made some mention of the Drummonds in your tree - especially if they were from Fife :-\
As far as I know, however, none of mine WENT TO Ireland. I had one uncle CAME FROM Co Cavan and married a Drummond Aunt!
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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This is as farback as I go with my Drummonds...........
1 John Drummond
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Birth: 1841
Death: 1932, Callander [don't know where that is]
Spouse: Helen Jolly b Perth???
Children: Duncan (1882-)
1.1 Duncan Drummond1
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Birth: 26 Mar 1882, Callander1
Spouse: Evelyn Byatt
Birth: 28 Oct 1887, Ashby, Co. Leicester, England1,2
Father: Arthur Byatt (1837-1909)
Mother: Matilda Layng (1849-1899)
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Hi Sunnyhill
I think we can close the book here. Your Drummond line is Stirlingshire perhaps even Perthshire but certainly not Fife
Follow this link to find Callander (and why not save the url to your Favourites for future reference to find UK locations?)
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=263500&y=707500&z=120&sv=Callander&st=3&tl=Map+of+Callander,+Stirling+[City/Town/Village]&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf
Good luck with your quest.
Now it's time to get back to the "Laings" in Fife and beyond
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Fine, I'm more interested in Layngs and Laings m'self
8)
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Hi
My wife's Granmother was Annie Wilson Laing and although her gran died in 1973 ( my wife was born in 1956), she never had any contact with her. So if there is anyone who has more information about Annie, ie other relatives (Laing side) etc
Thanks
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Please send me a PM. Thanks.
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Hello Chiad Fhear
I found this thread and your information while trying to pinpoint Sunnybraes Farm. I had seen a house sign with "Sunnybraes" on the Lundin Links/Leven road, but when I went to photograph it today, it was gone.
I too, am descended from David Laing and Christian Skinner, through their son David, then his son George. I note that you seem to have had the same problem as I and another descendant have had in ascertaining the exact D.O.B. and parents for David the elder. If you have any theories about that I should be grateful. Have you seen David and Christian's gravestone, at Scoonie?
Regards
Normandh
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Hi Mairi
I am the grandaughter of your Robert Laing, Gardener at Weem and descended from William Laing and Ann Kinneir (Kilmany). I can give you some info them but perhaps you have all you need.
Look forward to hearing from you
Anne
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Hi Anne,
Thank you for your message!
Robert Laing, b. c. 1852 worked as an under-gardener to my gt.gt. grandfather, Andrew Robertson Annan when he was at Ravelston House estate in Edinburgh c. 1871. He is listed in the Census.
Thinking he must be related to Andrew's wife, my gt. gt grandmother, Mary Laing (of John L. and Mary Monro at Pitcairlie House nr. Newburgh) I tracked his lineage, family and career as best I could from Censuses.
Like my ancestor he travelled around; in Robert's case Auchtermuchty, Ravelston, Bannockburn, Melrose, Logierait, Weem, Perth. Hard work but a wonderful career!
Alas I cannot find a link to the Laings of Pitcairlie who descended from a John Laing of Ard***?,( I can't read John's DC. 1883.) Cupar, b.c 1780. I don't know whether you can find a link between John and your David b. 1774, who married Jane /Jeannie Paton.
What has been apparent has been that umpteen Laings were gardeners!
My most recent (and fascinating) detective work has been centred around a John Laing of Carriston/Careston, Forfarshire, a seedsman and nurseryman who went south to Kent and was linked to partners in Edinburgh---again at a nursery where Andrew worked.
Then there was another Laing who worked as a gardener at Charlton/Charleton near Montrose, when my Andrew was there, c. 1861.
They must all have had green blood.
Mairi.
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Hi Mairi
Thank you for replying. I think I said I was Robert Laing's grandaughter when, of course, I am his great grandaughter! He died in 1944 before I was born but was always taken by my parents for and annual pilgrimage to Weem to see where he lived and worked and where my mother spent most of her childhood. We haven't been to Killichassie House since JK Rowling bought it but before then we visited the grounds, the gardeners cottage, and the steading where Robert retired to. for your interest. his grandfather, David who was married to Janet Paton was in the Tay Fencibles. ...."It was a regiment of foot, and spent sometime in Ireland until December 1801, when it marched from Ballymena to Belfast, via Antrim, proceeding thereafter to Portpatrick, thence to Stranraer, Wigtown and Port William, and spent sometime in Glasgow and Stirling." (Quoted from the Lyal Tay Fencibles on the Fife FHF site). Haven't come across any connection re John Laing and Mary Monro but if I do I will certainly let your know. I know for sure that the couple had a daughter Kathryn who married Andrew Reikie in Falkland( - another Andrew?) but haven't found any more of their family yet although I am sure there must be more (Andrew Reikie registered Jean Paton's death)
I have heard of Pitcairlie House between Abernethy and Newburgh. Will try to dig deeper soon .
The attached picture is Robert Laing at Weem.
Regards
Anne
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There's no attached photo and the place name is spelt "Wemyss", pronounced "Weems". :) At least I assume it's this place as I've never heard of a place called "Weem".
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Hi Anne,
Thank you for your very interesting post. I love all that sort of detail.
(I can't find a symbol to access your photo.)
John Laing of Pitcairlie gardener's house was well known for the fruit he produced, particularly grapes. The glasshouses must have been quite a sight.
Regards,
Mairi.
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Hi Ostler,
Weem is near Aberfeldy in Perthshire.
Regards,
Mairi.
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Hi again Ostler,
In research I am doing I have found a Margaret Dudgeon who married Thomas Downie (gardener), Midlothian.
Mairi.
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Hi Ostler,
Weem is near Aberfeldy in Perthshire.
Regards,
Mairi.
My apologies.
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Hi again Ostler,
In research I am doing I have found a Margaret Dudgeon who married Thomas Downie (gardener), Midlothian.
Mairi.
You'll need to specify a year as I have a few Margaret Dudgeons (no marriages for any of them).
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Ostler,
I'll post in the West Lothian thread.
Mairi.
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I've just found this extremely long thread and thought I'd deal in my 2 Fife Laings. I see one has been mentioned already.
I have the spouse of a 2nd cousin 4 times removed, MARY LAING, c1819 probably Crail. She married David Cunningham and had 2 sons, James C & Alexander Laing C. The former had a son, David. This Laing married into my Dewar family.
The other is the spouse of a2nd cousin, twice removed, ELIZABETH LAING, b 16/10/1866 at Forgan. She married James Walker at Leuchars on 13/6/1890 and had a son Andrew. This Laing married into my Gourlay family.
John Gourlay
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Hi John
I have an Elizabeth Laing born 16 Oct 1866 in Flass, Forgan. She was the daughter of James Laing and Isabella Brunton. Do we have a match?
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Dear Ostler
Certainly looks like her, same birthday and place. I don't have any information on her parentage. Mine married James Walker [b 24/9/1868, Dunbog] on 13/6/1890 at Leuchars.
He was the son of Catherine Walker nee Dewar a 1st cousin 3 times removed. Elizabeth and James had a son, Andrew, but that's where my current story ends.
I also have many Fife Bruntons in my tree but not this Isabella. My Bruntons also come about through marrying into the Dewars.
regards
John Gourlay
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If you have her marriage, how come you don't have her parents? They should have been on the certificate.
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Tried to upload picture twice - but didn't manage it, Not competent enough, I expect. Weem is a beautiful place at the other end of General Wades bridge from Aberfeldy, Ostler. My mum boasts about the glasshouses at Killiechassie as well, Mairi - and all that was grown in them.
Anne
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Dear Ostler
I've never seen the marriage certificate. I got the information from a Dewar correspondent and currently can't put my hands on it to see if her parentage was shown.
regards
John Gourlay
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John,
I will see if I can locate the marriage certificate on ScotlandsPeople.
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I have found the certificate and it is indeed the same Elizabeth Laing. Are you a descendant of James Walker and Elizabeth Laing?
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Dear Ostler
Short answer - No. Andrew Walker was a 2nd great grandson of Fife folk bc1742, John Dewar and Isobel Meiklejohn. I am a 4th great grandson, but descended via an 1812 Elizabeth Dewar, a sister of Andrews Walker's, grandfather, John Dewar b1806
regards
John Gourlay
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So we're not blood related, okay. :)
I would, however, appreciate any information you have regarding Elizabeth Laing And any subsequent offspring she had with James Walker. :)
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Hello - I'm new to all of thisand have only started searching my tree tonight.
However, I have found some definite Fife Laings in my searches.
These are:
Margaret Laing who was born 2 Jan 1825 and married a David Haxton (weaver) on 31 July 1840 (my my great x 4 grandparents)
and
John Laing of Balmalcom, Kettle, Fife - Margaret's father who married a Margaret Thomson.
Not sure if this ties in with anybody? If so, please let me know!
Thanks,
Amy
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Dear Ostler
I just have a son, Andrew Walker, who was allegedly born at Leuchars in 1890 and died as an infant in 1894. I still can't put my hands on my original source.
Are you a descendant of Elizabeth and Andrew? If so I'd be interested in what you have and likewise can give you details back to the original Dewars. I'm on (*)
regards
John G
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Hello - I'm new to all of this and have only started searching my tree tonight.
Hi Amy
Welcome to RootsChat.
You've a bit of reading to do just on this thread alone for your Laing connections and then you'll fiind others, so good luck to you. Post as much information as you have each time you do and I'm sure there'll be someone who'll be able to help ... and will most likely be related :)
Just keep this in mind:
Genealogy
... is not fatal - but is a grave disease
... is to be lived in the past lane
... is a haystack full of needles - but it is the threads that I need
... is about collecting dead relatives and sometimes live cousins
... is where you confuse the dead and irritate the living!
Good luck with your research
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Hi Chiad, I love your:-
Genealogy
... is not fatal - but is a grave disease
... is to be lived in the past lane
... is a haystack full of needles - but it is the threads that I need
... is about collecting dead relatives and sometimes live cousins
... is where you confuse the dead and irritate the living!
May I use this in my Newsletter to my family and friends? Thanks Evelina
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Hi Chiad, I love your:- Genealogy... May I use this in my Newsletter to my family and friends?
Hi Evelina
I've no objections, but I've also no idea where I found it or who wrote it, although I reckon it sums up our interests perfectly!
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Are you a descendant of Elizabeth and Andrew? If so I'd be interested in what you have and likewise can give you details back to the original Dewars.
Sorry John, Elizabeth is a bit distantly related to me: she's my 2nd cousin 4 times removed! ;D I'm still interested in any descendants of hers and will let you know if I find anything.
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I have another LAING mystery, can anyone help solve it? ???
1851 census Crichton - Midlothian, Duncan Laing, Schoolteacher, aged 50 from Torryburn in Fife is living with his wife Mary Ann Howell also 50 from England. With them is Mary Ann Dewar 9 and it says granddaughter.
I do have a son for Duncan & Mary Ann also Duncan born 1824 in Dunfermline Fife and living with them in Crichton on the 1841 census, he is a Joiner. But if Mary Ann Dewar was his, her name would be laing. So I started looking for a daughter but no trace.
Now in 1861 Mary Ann dewar, teacher, aged 19 is still with the 'Grandparents' but done as a Lodger this time not as a granddaughter. By 1871 she is missing so i found a mariage in 1863 of a Mary Ann Dewar, Teacher to a Robert Robson but her parents as down as John Dewar and Ann Green.
I cannot trace the son Duncan after the 1841 census nor find anyother children for Duncan & Mary Ann in Fife or Midlothian.
Anyone come across these names? Thanks Evelina
I have just re-looked at the mc and the couple on the next wedding the Mothers name is Anna Bruce nee Laing. Now that must be a coincidence or did the registrar in 1863 mix up the mothers maiden names?????????/ Any one come across anything like that?
Mary Ann Dewar's dc does have the Ann Green as Mother but her husband registered the death and he may have copied the names from the mc.
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Can anyone help with the Laing / Ness connection. Andrew Laing married Mary Ness 2.4.1908, who was my g- grandmother's sister. They went to Canada and returned to Fife in 1924. I would like to know the names of their children and grandchildren if possible and also their occupations.
Thanks
Lorand
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Evelina
My heart jumped for a moment when I saw Laing linked with Dewar. Reported earlier in this thread I said I had an Elizabeth Laing married to a James Walker whose mother was Catherine Walker nee Dewar b 1835 at Balmerino, Fife.
However I can find no Mary Ann in my Dewar family or links to Robsons or Greens.
regards
John Gourlay
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Hi Lorand
Do you have years of birth for Andrew and Mary? I see a possible couple in the 1911 census in Ontario, with 2 young sons and a brother John Laing living with them.
Andrew born 1883, Mary b. 1879, John b.1885
Living at 35 Castlefield Ave, North Toronto.
http://automatedgenealogy.com/index.html
There was a Mary Laing, other surname Ness who died in Falkland, Fife in 1959. Her death certificate may have a name of a child if they registered it.
You should bear in mind that their children, and certainly grandchildren may still be alive and rootschat policy is not to post details of living people.
Kirsty
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JUST HAD TO GET THIS THREAD BACK UP TO THE TOP AGAIN :D
Hi again Laing 'cousins'
I've got a query for you to resolve for me from an A*******.co.uk find ...
1901 Census for Wemyss, Buckhaven, Fife has JEMIMA LAING, age 30, born Wemyss abt 1861 as STEP DAUGHTER of James age 34 and Janet age 37 :P
I know, from my searches in General Register House in Edinburgh, that 'Janet' was Janet Kinnear and that the other children all correspond - except for James shown as age 72 instead of 12 - right down to wee Thomas aged 5 months.
A search on ScotlandsPeople has no Jemima born in Wemyss (or Scotland for that matter) between 1855 and 1865 but there is one in 1870 :-\
Before spending any more credits, do any of you have anything about Jemima in your records?
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Just to throw a spanner in the works (probably!) ... I have a Thomas Laing, married to Ann Mitchell 1/12/1866 - she was born in Fife in 1847, the daughter of Archibald Mitchell and Ann Dewar.
Thomas and Ann had five children: - Ann, b. 1867, Christian/Christina b. 1870, David b. 1873, Archibald b. 1882, and "Betsey" b. 1889. Those last couple seem quite a time after the rest of the family, so I'm dubious about who they actually belong to ... however that's beside the point.
The point is ... I don't have any info on Thomas, unfortunately. Another of my contacts gave me this much information, but for some reason I've had trouble contacting him just lately. So I don't know whether there's some connection, here ... ?
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Just to throw a spanner in the works (probably!) ... I have a Thomas Laing, married to Ann Mitchell 1/12/1866 - she was born in Fife in 1847, the daughter of Archibald Mitchell and Ann Dewar.
Hi Deb D
Could this be who you're talking about:
THOMAS LAING was born 11 Jul 1847 in Cupar, Fife, and died 06 Dec 1922 in 14 Castle Street, Cupar, Fife. He married ANN MITCHELL 01 Dec 1866 in Crail, Fife, daughter of ARCHIBALD MITCHELL and ANN DEWAR. She was born 06 Jun 1847 in Crail, Fife, and died 08 Feb 1927 in 14 Castle Street, Cupar, Fife.
Between 1881 and 1901 they lived in St Andrews Road, Anstruther Easter; Falside, Carnbee and Lahill Crag, Newburn and they had SIX children - Ann, Christina, David, Archibald Mitchell, Maggie Black and Betsy Lindsay!
Seems we have a common link - so please PM your email address to me and we can compare 'finds' :)
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Done ... will butt out of the thread now, unless someone else finds a connection ;D
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Hi MairiD
I am researching the same LAING family as you, maybe we can share notes? At the moment I am trying to find out if there is a connection between John Laing b.1809, the gardener at Pitcairlie house and Robert LAING b.1819 the gardener at nearby Wellfield house.
James STARK was a groom then butler at Wellfield House. John LAING's daughter Margaret LAING b. 1839 and James STARK's son Peter Manuel STARK b.1842 married and emigrated to New Zealand. Margaret's sister Mary LAING married Andrew Robertson ANNAN, their son Henry David/McDougal ANNAN and his cousin Mary-Ann Munro STARK married and adopted my grandmother Mary ANNAN and lived in Dunedin New Zealand.
There is such a confusion of LAING's around fife and they seem to move around a lot!
Cheers
Wendy
Dunedin NZ
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Hi Wendy,
Am very happy to share notes!
That was interesting about the gardener Robert Laing at Wellfield House.
I could not find a BC to match the details given on Censuses that he was born in Cupar. Cupar however was where the other Laings were born.
On Robert's DC (1893, Collessie) his parentage is not given as the informant stated 'not known' so no help there.
John Laing's (1809, father of Mary and Margaret,etc.,) siblings were Margaret (1807), Janet (1810) and Jane (1813). Robert's birthdate of 1819 is not far from these dates. One possibility is that he was the youngest of this family but I think there would have been a BC matching those of the others.
A son was born to Robert Laing and Christy Storar in Auchtermuchty and as Robert (b.c.1819) and his wife Margaret Donovan/Denovan ( unclear) named their first child Christian, those parents are another possibility.
I looked at what seems to the previous generation of 'our' Laing line.
Margaret, John, Janet and Jane were born to John (b.c.1780) and Jane/Janet/Margaret(!) Smith.
David (1778), William (1782) Janet (1788) Elizabeth (1791) and Robert (1796) may have been John's (c.1780) siblings. The youngest, Robert, had a family starting in 1834 ---too late for a Robert c.1819.
I have not found David and William's marriages and families if any. Perhaps though 'Wellfield Robert' was a cousin of John (1809).
I do think there will be a connection! Finding it is a challenge.
Have you looked at the National Library of Scotland's maps online and seen the fascinating ones showing Pitcairlie? ( I must look again to spot Wellfield House.) Lindores House where Andrew R. Annan worked is quite near. He will have met Mary Laing at that time--c. 1848/9.
Best Wishes,
MairiD.
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Hi MairiD
Yes I thought it was interesting about Robert too, of course with so many LAING'S it may be coincidence or extended family as you suggest. I will keep digging!
John LAING (1809) and his siblings Margaret (1807) Janet (1810) and Jane (1813) were all christened together on the same day in 1813 Cupar suggesting that either they were not regular church goers or services may have been irregular? Any further children of John LAING (1780) and Jane/Mgt/Janet SMITH may have had after 1813 would not necessarily have been christened?
There is a John LAING and wife Janet and their daughter Christian (1815) living in Strathmiglo in 1841 who may be a possibility. The ages don't quite fit but maybe?
In 1891 Robert LAING (1819) is living with his married daughter Christian/Christina McGregor with a visitor Helen DUNOVAN b. Strathmiglo. Robert's other children are John, Janet, and William all family names from our LAING branch.
Christian LAING (1815) and Robert LAING (1819) would certainly fit date wise as siblings of our John (1809).
Yes I too think that William LAING and Janet AVES are the most likely parents of John (1780) and have looked at their other children. IGI also gives a Margaret (1785) There are too many possibilities with many of the families having the same names! I will keep looking.
Wendy
Dunedin NZ
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Hi, I have LANG/LAING's in my tree, but mine are Robert LANG & Elizibeth MITCHELL??, Only one son known Archibald c.1755. I have all just about given up finding siblings for Archibald, which is strange for that time frame of him being the only child.
My lot also came from Larbert, you havent come across this family any where in your family history research??.
Regards Leanne
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Hi everyone I came across this discussion and I just though I would let you know that Im great granddaughter X3 of David Laing and Christina (nee. Skinner). My dad's great grandpa and gran was James Laing b. 1857 and Janet Kinnear.
Im quite new to this so Ive been mainly focusing on the direct parent lines and not going into too much detail on brothers and sisters etc although I do have some info.
Ps im not too good at the whole terminology thing!! I'll learn!
Zoe Laing x
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Welcome to Rootschat.
My Grandfather,s sister Margaret Mann m Thomas Laing in 1913 he was the son of James Laing & Janet Kinnear .They lived in Denbeath but moved to Falkirk. I also have more info, you need 3 post,s then you can send a private message so we can pass newer details. Christine.
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Hi Christine, did you go further back than Janet Kinnear?
I got to Christina Skinner and David Laing then struggled to get further back with very little information.
I did get death cert for David Laing born 1818 and states his parents were David Laing and Jeannie Laing ( nee Laing) yet cant find any more info on their marriage or births. Come to a bit of halt!!
Zoe x
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I too am decended from David Laing and Christina Skinner and like many other researchers have had difficulty establishing the parents of David Laing.
I do however have plenty of info on the Skinner line that I'd be happy to share.
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Hi there Langtonian that would be fantastic to get some info on the Skinner side.
Thanks. Anything you may need give me a shout!
I'm quite new to this so I may not have as much info as other people!
Zoe
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Thanks Zoe, will send you a PM.
Regards
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Hi Evelina
My LAING family line are/were based (more or less) in and around the East of Fife - away from the places you mention in your post.
My maternal Grandfather's mother CHRISTIAN was a LAING. This is her entry from my tree:
CHRISTIAN LAING was born 15 Nov 1842 in Kilrenny, Fife, and died 03 Jan 1911 in Durie's Broom, Scoonie, Fife. She married ANDREW DRUMMOND 10 Jan 1863 in Carnbee, Fife, son of JAMES DRUMMOND and CHRISTIAN STEVENSON. He was born Abt. Oct 1840 in Pittenweem, Fife, and died 30 Aug 1913 in Balgove, St Andrews & St Leonards, Fife.
If you see a connection, I'd be happy to exchange information with you.
Regards
Chiad Fhear
I'm glad to see there's a LAING thread here. I'm descended from LAINGS in the parish of Kilrenny, East Neuk of Fife. Alexander LAING married Janet BROUN at Kilrenny in 1723. Their daughter Mary, born in 1740, married Andrew KEAY in the parish of St. Monans and they were the ancestors of the Cellardyke KEAYS.
Harry D. Watson
(author of "Kilrenny and Cellardyke: 800 Years of History").
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Hi Christine, did you go further back than Janet Kinnear?
I got to Christina Skinner and David Laing then struggled to get further back with very little information.
I did get death cert for David Laing born 1818 and states his parents were David Laing and Jeannie Laing ( nee Laing) yet cant find any more info on their marriage or births. Come to a bit of halt!!
Zoe x
Hi Zoe
I've just sent you a PM but, it seems we've all hit this brick wall with David and Jeannie ... although it's quite possibly correct.
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Hi all, Glad some of you have made connections, i made one so that was great, now I wonder if any of you have laing married to Smart, Cumming or Reid in the 1880-1900's or married to Gilchrist or Speary in the 1850 -1860's.
Evelina
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Mairi
Hi - just wandered in here again and realised I should have given you some more information on David Laing 1774 - too busy thinking about all the Laing gardeners. In fact I had a query recently from someone whose ancestor was a William Laing who was a gardener in Co Antrim NI - so these gardeners spread out a bit :D
Anyway David Laing was born at Hillcairnie, Kilmany on 20/03/1774. Also FFHS has an interesting article on the Loyal Tay Fencibles and shows David serving with them when he was 19 from 5th Jan 1795 to 31st Oct 1796. Interesting there is also a Thomas Kinnear (Kilmany) aged 14 and a James Paton (Falkland) aged 17. All eventually related perhaps? Have a look - very interesting!
Regards
Anne
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Many thanks for that information, Anne. Will have a look at the Loyal Tay Fencibles.
Regards,
Mairi.
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Hi,
My husband has Laing's in his family, let me know if you have any links
John LAING was born on 20 Dec 1842 in Kennoway, Fife, Scotland. He married Jane Martha IRVING on 12 Jun 1864 in Parish Church, St.Nicholas, Newcastle o Tyne, England. [parents: James LAING was born about 1820. He married Elizabeth BUCHANAN on 15 Oct 1841 in Kennoway & Elizabeth BUCHANAN was born about 1820.]
Jane Martha IRVING was born about 1847 in Scotland. [Parents: John IRVING was born about 1820]
They had the following children:
M i James LAING was born about Feb 1867 in Sunderland, Durham, England.
M ii Edward John LAING was born in Feb 1870 in Hebburn, Durham, England.
M iii David Septimus LAING was born in Sep 1874 in Hebburn, Durham, England.
M iv John LAING was born in Nov 1879 in Hebburn, Durham, England.
F v Ellen Jane LAING
F vi Flora Wallace LAING was born about Aug 1882 in South Shields, Durham, England.
If you have any information I would be very interested to hear it.
Regards
Emma
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Sorry Emma
My Laings going back to early 1700s are all from the north Fife area (Auchtermuchty, Forgan etc. ) although one ventured as far as Edinburgh and another to Aberfeldy ;D
Wishing you every success in your search.
Anne
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does anyone have any Laing shipbuilders in the family
ie Hugh Laing who apparently came from Fife and went to Dunbar?
He might have been the son of John Laing and Elizabeth Taylor born Carnbee 1738?
thanks Alison
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IGI has the following children for John Laing and Elizabeth Taylor:
RACHEL LAING
Christening: 30 AUG 1719 Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
JANET LAING
Christening: 18 MAR 1722 Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
MARGARET LAING
Christening: 10 MAR 1728 Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
MARJORY LAING
Birth: 17 MAR 1734 Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
ELSPETH LAING
Christening: 29 FEB 1736 Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
AGNES LAING
Christening: 24 SEP 1741 Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
Marriages for John Laing and Elizabeth Taylor:
JOHN LAING
Marriage: 11 OCT 1718 Kilrenny, Fife, Scotland
JOHN LAING
Marriage: 12 OCT 1718 Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
Nothing on a Hugh Laing whatsoever, but there are large gaps between the birth of their children, so who knows?
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thank you I had already found some on Scotlandspeople but you gave me some I didn't have
Hugh was born in 1738 according to scotlands people
like you I found big gaps but now I have filled in a few
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There's a Hugh Laing died 25/3/1816 in Dunbar on ScotlandsPeople. I'm not sure how much detail they'd give but it might be yours.
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thank you I will certainly look that one up
Alison
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;) Hello Chiad Fhear.
My Great Grandparents were James Laing married to Janet Kinnear.
Seems like your Great Granmother and my Great Grandfather were brother and
sister.
I recently saw their parents gravestone in Scoonie Cemetery. (David Laing and
Christian Skinner.
Regards, Grosperrin.
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Hi Grosperrin,
My great great great grandparents were James Laing and Janet Kinnear.
Zoe x
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Hi,
This is all a bit new to me but I have just been reading back over all the "Laing" entries.
I am related to the John Laing b. 1740 m. Margaret Greig b. 1745, Carnbee and
John Laing b. 1778, m. Anne Black b. Abt 1778, Carnbee - They are my 3x and 4x grandparents.
I also got back to my 5x GDad - John Laing b. Abt 1720 - m. Ann Mcewing b. Abt 1720.
I had the John Laing/Margaret Greig children, but I couldn't find the John Laing/Anne Black children.
Thanks to "Sheenie" I now know there is info to be found.
If I can help anyone with the few bits of info I have I will be happy to do so. I live in Australia so I'm on a different time schedule to most of you, but will get back to you if I can help or you can help me.
Regards
mythical
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Hi Mythical
Looks like we're probably related. :)
How did you find this Anne McEwing?
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Hi,
I have an OPR birth from SP for John Laing which lists his parents as John Laing and Ann Laing at Carnbee. I then searched for John Laing with an Ann in all parishes from 1705 to 1742 and found only 1 record that of John Laing and Ann Mcewing m. 5/6/1737 but they were in Glasgow. I then checked through IGI and found marriage confirmation and a daughter listed as Janet b. 3/4/1744 to a John and Ann Laing but born in Carnbee.
It seems to fit in datewise, but I haven't been able to find any more details as yet. Can you help with more info.
mythical
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Unfortunately I've not got much on this family at the moment - Glasgow seems an awfully long way for people to travel in those days but that's not to say it's impossible!
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I was born in Glasgow myself and thought we were always in this area until I started researching. My grandad was born in Forfarshire, Lochee, my ggdad in Perth and then from 1816 back we are all in Carnbee, Fifeshire until the Laing/Mcewing marriage and then they end up back in Carnbee area again.
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I'm wondering if John Laing and Ann McEwing married in Glasgow but were born in Fife - some of my relations seemed to go to Glasgow to get married when neither the bride or groom were from there.
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It's very possible as I have't found any other info on either except a possible death record for John Laing in 1790, again he died in Carnbee and the son John and daughter Janet were both born in Carnbee, although John (the son) was born 1740 and Janet 1744. they actually married in1737, which is a big gap if he was the first child.
I've only just found all this in the last couple of days, perhaps I should look for more children in the Lanark area.
Do you have a connection with these Laings?
mythical
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Yes John and Ann (the ones who potentially married in Glasgow) were my great x7 grandparents.
John (b1740) was their son, who had a son called David b1780. David married Anne Small, and they had a son called Robert (b1816) who married Agnes Mackie. Robert and Agnes had a son called David (b1837) who married Catherine Harley. David and Catherine had a daughter called Jemima Dunbar Laing who was born in 1871, she married Robert Brotherton Small. Robert and Jemima's eldest son, James Small (b1897) married Helen Mary Clark Fleming, and their eldest daughter, Agnes Grace Sanderson Small (b1922) was my grandmother.
Phew!
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Phew...is right.
Nice to meet you, that is a lot of info to absorb at this time of night, but all very interesting, I have come across David Laing and Anne Small in my IGI searches and something made me print out their details and children's records.
I actually thought at one time I must have connections with all the Laings in Carnbee, oneway or another, given the population numbers at that time and the amount of children they seem to have had.
Time for bed "downunder" Thanks for the chat, hope we can help each other some more.
mythical
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I suspect they are all connected one way or another, perhaps next time you're on here you can let me know your connection. ;)
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Will do, happy to, just making too many typos as it's neary midnight here.
Be in touch.
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Hi again Ostler and hello to you Mythical
As you know Ostler, my husband is also a descendant of this Laing line so was interested in the possible marriage in Glasgow of John and Ann Laing posted by you Mythical. The OPR birth records for both John b 1740 and Janet b1744 in Carnbee state the parents names as John Laing and Ann Laing and the witnesses (usually the fathers of the parents) were "David and John Laings." So did John and Ann have the same surname? There is an Ann Laing or Laying b 29.12. 1715 Pittenweem to John Laying and a Margaret Mackie (John Laing/Ann Black had a daughter named Margaret Mackie Laing) so perhaps this Ann Laing is John's wife? On saying that I have not been able to find a marriage for them so maybe 'going down the wrong road' and your theory Mythical is also possible.
Would appreciate your thoughts.
Regards
Sheenie
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I suppose the evidence points towards both John and Ann being Laings - it's not impossible. The Glasgow idea seems a little unrealistic to me, but again not impossible. The fact there is a potential Laing/Layng in Pittenweem, which isn't tooo far from Carnbee, seems like the more sensible option. But until there is more evidence this could be another brick wall.
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Hi Sheenie,
I think I need to do a bit more searching re John Laing & Ann Mcewing - I found IGI marriage for John Laing & Ann Laing but when I went into SP I did a John Laing with an Ann only and a large year span from 1705 to 1742 and found only the 1 record as above, nothing for an Ann Laing and just assumed that was her maiden name. I know you shouldn't assume anything so I will keep trying and look into your Laying and Mackie idea.
You mentioned your John Laing b. 1740 has been witnessed by David & John Laing, I have the same but my copy for Janet b. 1744 the witnesses look like John & Charles ...something, but it doesn't look like Laing to me?? Is your copy any clearer?
Thanks for the input.
Regards
Mythical
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Hi Ostler,
My connections
John Laing / Ann Mcewing??? are my 5x grandparents
their son
John b. 1740 / Margaret Greig my 4x
their son
John b. 1778 / Anne Black my 3x
their son
William b. 1816 / Charlotte Eason my 2x
their son
Peter b. 1848 / Agnes Mathieson my 1x
their son - Thomas b.1884 / Isabella Watson my grandparents.
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Hi Mythical
I think we're both on the right track i.e John Laing's (husband of Margaret Greig) parents are John Laing and Ann ???? - just need to do a bit more digging. Yes you're right - had another look at Janet Laing's birth record and the witnesses for her are John and Charles - something (can't make it out either!!). Will keep you posted if I find anymore evidence.
Regards
Sheenie
My husband's line is as follows:
John Laing bc 1715 and Ann ?? (x 6 Grandparents)
John Laing b 1740 Carnbee and Margaret Greig (x 5)
John Laing b 1778 Carnbee and Ann Black (x 4)
John Laing b 1803 Carnbee and Margaret Ramsay (x 3)
Andrew Laing b 1825 Carnbee and Margaret Gay (x 2)
John Laing b 1854 Kennoway and Jane Birrell (x 1)
Andrew Laing 1883 Falkland and Mary Ness (Grandparents)
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Hello Sheenie,
Does that make us distant, distant cousins?
I will also let you know if I find out anything more. I did find a John Laing married a Mrs John Laing (very helpful ;D) but I guess thats what keeps it interesting.
Regards
Mythical
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Hi,
I have some Laings from Auchtertool, by Kirkcaldy.... is this near?
Lynda
Kirkcaldy is nr South Leith and Edinburgh, Musselburgh and Inveresk, basically on the east coast before you cross the firth of forth river. I have a Robert Laing with no wife mentioned father of a Margaret Laing married into my family with no idea where the origins of the family are.
marcie
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It is one of those mysteries which as yet I have not tackled. One of many loose ends. Which due to the fact that they are not my direct, direct line I have left for a while until I am blocked in other avenues and find the time to take a look.
marcie
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Hi,
Did you mean to send this to me? I don't seem to have any Robert Laing around this area at this stage of my searching.
Mythical
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Hi Mythical
Yes, you and my husband are distant cousins - his x 3 Gt Grandfather John Laing b 1803 and your William b 1816 are brothers - sons of John Laing and Ann Black.
Been concentrating on my side of the family at the moment but hopefully get back to the Laing side soon.
Regards
Marion
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JUST HAD TO GET THIS THREAD BACK UP TO THE TOP AGAIN :D
Hi again Laing 'cousins'
I've got a query for you to resolve for me from an A*******.co.uk find ...
1901 Census for Wemyss, Buckhaven, Fife has JEMIMA LAING, age 30, born Wemyss abt 1861 as STEP DAUGHTER of James age 34 and Janet age 37 :P
I know, from my searches in General Register House in Edinburgh, that 'Janet' was Janet Kinnear and that the other children all correspond - except for James shown as age 72 instead of 12 - right down to wee Thomas aged 5 months.
A search on ScotlandsPeople has no Jemima born in Wemyss (or Scotland for that matter) between 1855 and 1865 but there is one in 1870 :-\
Before spending any more credits, do any of you have anything about Jemima in your records?
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Hello fellow Laings.
Perhaps my last posting was a bit unclear.
With reference to Chiad Fhear's posting on 22nd June, 2009. -
I have a family Bible in which the birth of Jemima Kinnear is recorded as March 26th 1871 in Buckhaven, Wemyss, Fife. This Jemima was the illegitimate daughter of Janet Kinnear before her marriage to James Laing. She became known as Jemima Laing.
She married William Adams in Buckhaven on 21st April 1893.
Her death is recorded as 30th March, no year or place given in the family Bible.
She is buried in Wemyss Cemetery.
Hope this is helpful.
Grosperrin.
Grosperrin.
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Alanda I saw your post concerning the Laings from New Brunswick. I am also related to them specifically John Laing b1836 who married Emma Huston or Hustin. I'm not sure of her exact maiden name, my family notes say her father was a William Hustin and her mother was possibly Mary Purcell but I can find no proof. Emma was born in Nova Scotia and married John in Boston in 1859 but again no marriage record found. My line goes thru their daughter May Rebecca Laing who married Charles Parent ,my great grandfather. I'd love to compare info if possible .Thanks.David
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So many postings of Laings and none of them mine! :(
Farthest back that I can get:
Peter Laing died 1829 Dysart married to Elizabeth Campbell 29 June 1790 in Dysart.
- children John b. 24 May 1781 and Peter b. 1 Dec. 1787 Gallatown
Peter married Margaret Norval 19 Dec 1824 Dysart
- children Peter 20 Oct 1825
Janet 8 Sept 1827
Elisabeth 23 Jun 1830
Joseph 24 Jun 1833 (married Philia Shand)
James 11 Nov 1835
Peter married Grace Davidson 15 May 1852 Dysart
- children Peter 5 Mar 1853
David Davidson 27 Aug 1855
Jane Anderson 23 Jun 1859
David married Mary Dodds and had 8 children
Jane married Alexander Page 21 Jun 1888
- children Grace Davidson 8 Jun 1890
Henry 2 Mar 1892
Peter Laing 22 June 1894
Alexander 25 May 1897
David Laing 26 June 1898
Robert 18 Mar 1901
Mary Adamson 24 May 1903
Any links to this Laing family line?
Margaret
Ontario Canada
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Hi
Got completely lost and I'm not sure if I clicked on every page, so apologies if someone has added these people.
James Laying m Catherine Mopsie or Mapsie 29 Nov 1723 Kettle, Fife, Scotland.
Daughter Christian Laying born 13 Sep 1724 Auchtermuchty, Fife married George Philp.
Children
John Philp born 12 Nov 1749
Katherine Philp born 19 Nov 1752
both Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland
Katherine Philp married George Page 29 Dec 1784
Cheers
Heather
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Hi Mythical
Marion
Hi Sheenie, Mythical
I have a Blaikie on my family tree yet her father was known as Charles Blackie, over the years did that become Black do you think. Still have not found Robert Laing's wifes name.
marcie
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Hi Evelina,
I note that one of the Laings in your original Laing was Smart Laing _ son of James and Margaret. Smart Laing was my grandfather (I'm assuming it must be him). He lived in Cowdenbeath and had three daughters who survived, Lilias (still alive at age 98!), Christina and Mary (my mum). My name is Tom and I live in Rosyth. I'd love to hear from you and if I can supply any information I'd be most happy to do so.
Tom Cook
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Hello fellow Laings.
... the birth of Jemima Kinnear is recorded as March 26th 1871 in Buckhaven, Wemyss, Fife. ... Her death is recorded as 30th March, no year or place given ...
She is buried in Wemyss Cemetery.
Hope this is helpful.
Grosperrin.
Hi Grosperrin ... the "Laings" in Fife rumble on ... I've just done a search in SP and found that Jemima died in Buckhaven, Wemyss, Fife on 30 March 1916
I'll need to do some follow-up work next time I'm in Edinburgh!
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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And here's Jemima, William and their family at 6 West Shore Street, Buckhaven, Wemyss, Fife ...
1901 Census
William Adams; Head, 29, b. Buckhaven Fifeshire, Coal Miner
Jemima Adams; Wife, 30, b. Buckhaven, Fifeshire
Janet Adams; Daur, 7, b. Buckhaven, Fifeshire - scholar
Margaret Adams; Daur, 5, b. Buckhaven, Fifeshire - scholar
Jemima Adams; Daur, 3, b. Buckhaven, Fifeshire
Ann Adams; Daur, 1, b. Buckhaven, Fifeshire
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Hi Tom, Yes Smart Laing is my relative, my Gran's Uncle. I will send you a PM. Evelina
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I have much information about Laings in Fife. See my family tree at ancestrey.com and GenesReunited.com
Kathleen Lillo Dunn
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Hi Kathleen, Are you East or West Fife Laings? There does not seem to be a tie in between the two or at least not that I can find so far. Mine go from Torryburn through Dunfermline, Halbeath, Lassodie, Lumphinnans, Lochgelly, Cardenden and Kirkcaldy. However there are Laings in Cowdenbeath who originate in North Fife and they are not tied in. Cheers Evelina
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Thought I'd post my Laings - I don't think I've seen them mentioned so far, but I could have missed them (there's a lot to read!)
George Laing, m.1825 at Ceres, Ann Thomson (1803 Logie -1879, widow by 1851)
children:
Ann (b.1826 Dairsie, Fife), lived in Dundee c.1879, married Cameron
Thomas (b. 1829 Cults, Fife)
George (1835, Carnock or Kemback, Fife -1914, Dundee), m. i) Ann Scott Henderson (or just Scott), 1857 at Murroes, Angus - children: Ann Scott Henderson, Elizabeth, Mary, Jane, Jemima, George, Helen Salmond, James, Jessie; m. ii) Madeline Peebles 1898 in Dundee
John (b.1838 Kemback, Fife) m. i) Margaret Pearson, 1860 at Dundee, children - George, Mary Ann, Robert; m ii) Matilda Barrie, 1879 in Dundee, children - Betsy.
Mary (b.1840 Dairsie)
Robert Miln Neil (b.1844 Dairsie)
Jane Murray (b.1846 Dairsie)
I come down from Elizabeth Laing, (1859-1933, daughter of George Laing) who married Alexander Blyth (1857-1929) at Balbeuchly, Auchterhouse.
Best - Garen
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Thomas Laing, son of John Laing and Ann Black, was born 14 Dec 1807 and died 10 Nov 1872 at Bonnygate, Cupar, age 65 years. He was married to Isabella Edmond, daughter of David Edmond and Isabella Hain, who was born 26 Aug 1807 and died 4 Oct 1870.
David Laing, son of John Laing and Ann Black, was born 2 Sep 1810 and died 30 Oct 1896 at Barnhills, St Andrews, age 85 years. He was married to Rebecca Moodie, daughter of John Moodie and Agnes Hain, who was born 27 Jun 1816 in Cults and died 10 Dec 1885. They had a daughter, Rebecca, born 22 Jun 1851 and died 27 Sep 1913.
Alexander Laing, son of John Laing and Margaret Ramsay, was born 8 Apr 1838 and died 24 Feb 1925 at 41 Crossgate, Cupar, age 86 years. His father is named as Andrew on his death certificate. He married Janet King, daughter of John King and Elizabeth Loch, who was born c1852 and died 24 Feb 1927 at Methilhill. They had a son called Thomas.
Peter Laing, son of William Laing and Charlotte Easson, was born c1848 and died 18 Nov 1930 in Shettleston Road, Glasgow age 82 years. He married Elizabeth Forbes, daughter of James Forbes and Ann ???, who was born 17 Oct 1838 in Cargill, Perthshire, and died 9 Jan 1870 in 125 South Street, Perth. They had one son, James Laing, who was born 17 Dec 1869 in South Street and died three days later. Peter then married Agnes Mathieson, daughter of Robert Mathieson and Janet Barr, who was born c1848 and died 29 Nov 1927 in Neilston, Renfrewshire.
Jane Laing, daughter of William Laing and Charlotte Easson, was born 24 Dec 1856 in Perth and died 7 Oct 1929 in Gorbals, Glasgow, age 72 years. She married David Reid and had a daughter, Bessie.
Thomas Lucian Laing, son of William Laing and Charlotte Easson, was born 8 Jan 1864 in Perth. He married Wilhelmina Gibson, daughter of Angus Gibson and Catherine McGregor, who was born c1864 and died 30 Dec 1908 age 45 years. They had a son, Thomas Lucian Laing Jnr who was born 1899 and died 1900.
Mary Ann Laing, daughter of David Laing and Jane Crombie, was born 23 Dec 1868 in Arncroach and died unmarried on 22 Jan 1954 in Denhead, Kennoway. However, her death certificate says the informant was James Dyce, son.
More tomorrow if anyone's interested.
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I was in Scoonie Cemetery today and came across the gravestone for David Laing and Christine Skinner. I'll upload the picture I took if anyone is interested.
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Hi Ostler.
Thanks for that. I too have found and photographed David andChristian's headstone in Scoonie graveyard. I found it very emotional to be standing above my great great grandfather and great great grandmothers' remains. Often think of the trials they had during their lifetime and my side of the Laing family's journey round the East Neuk. Probably, like yours, they were farm hands near Anstruther and followed available work round the coast, becoming miners in Wemyss and into West Fife.
All best
Grosperrin.
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Hi again all you Laing 'cousins' out there in the Kingdom!
I have a more current Laing that I need a wee bit of background on to determine if she's linked to my tree before I go spending any more of my genealogy budget .
JANET ARNOT SMART LAING born in Cameron Parish, Fife in 1913 died in St Andrews, Fife 2000. I have her marriage in 1942 and know she had two sons.
If anyone has a connection to Arnot could they help? Given how recent this is I'd be happy to deal via PMs.
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Regards
Chiad Fhear[/color]
Hey, i have just started researching my husbands family tree. It seems I have a link with you CHIAD FHEAR!
I too have james drummond and christian stevenson. They are parents of Stephen Drummond, born 23.2 1931 and died 1901. He married Helen Robertson 1854. Stephen and Helen went on to have John Drummond born 14.2.1864 who married Jeannie Laing 10.4.1891.
Jeannie was the reason i was searching this page, perhaps there is a link to the laing earlier in the drummond tree.
I don't have alot of info yet and would love to see what you have. Cheers
Joanne Boyle
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Hi Joanne and welcome to the RootsChat Forum and the 'mad-house' that is/can be "LAINGS" in Fife and beyond ;D
We ARE connected and I've sent you a PM so we can exchange information
Regards
Chaid Fhear
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Hi all Laings!!
Please excuse any mistakes that I make as I just discovered this site last night and had to hunt around for my family history stuff.
Anyway my great great grandfather was a Robert Laing, who was born approx 1840 in Carnbee, Fife. His parents were James Laing and Isabella butter who were married in 1833, 29 June in Carnbee. Robert Laing and his father moved to Dundee in around the 1860's . Robert Laing married Jane Ann Doctor in 1868.
I do have more information, but just thought that I'd post the bones of it, as it may help someone with their research. I can't claim to finding out any of this myself - my Aunt gave me some Laing family research that had been undertaken in the late 1980s. However I have verified and added to it, through Scotlands peoples website.
I look forward to any responses :)
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this message is for ostler. My great great grandmother (maternal side) was Isabella laing, daughter of thomas laing and isabella laing maiden surname edmond. She married my great great grandfather Alexander Wannan in august 12 1862. I think they were living in kemback at that time. Is she the daughter of the thomas and isabella laing in your posting? do you have any information about them.
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It seems quite likely that Thomas and Isabella are the parents of your Isabella. Thomas was born 14th December 1807 and baptised on the 27th in Carnbee. He died 10th November 1872 in Bonnygate, Cupar. Isabella Edmond was the daughter of David Edmond and Isabella Hain, born 29th August 1807, baptised on the 30th in St Andrews. She died of heart disease on 4th October 1870 in Bonnygate.
I'm not sure how to confirm or deny that this is the right couple, other than taking into account their location and the years they were around. I can't find a marriage for the two, or records of birth for any children. Censuses may be the best idea here.
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have Isabella Laing's and Alexander Wannn's marriage certificate, where it states that she is the daughter of Thomas laing labourer andIsabella Laing nee Edmond, but like you no trace of a birth or marriage for both.
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Yes John and Ann (the ones who potentially married in Glasgow) were my great x7 grandparents.
John (b1740) was their son, who had a son called David b1780. David married Anne Small, and they had a son called Robert (b1816) who married Agnes Mackie. Robert and Agnes had a son called David (b1837) who married Catherine Harley. David and Catherine had a daughter called Jemima Dunbar Laing who was born in 1871, she married Robert Brotherton Small. Robert and Jemima's eldest son, James Small (b1897) married Helen Mary Clark Fleming, and their eldest daughter, Agnes Grace Sanderson Small (b1922) was my grandmother.
Phew!
Hi Ostler,
Just found this site and can't believe I have found a link already...:) David Laing/Ann Small were my 3x great grandparents, they had a son George (b 1821 d 1864 mining accident in keltie ) married Isabella Taylor, they had a son Tomas (b 1864 in Carnbee)who married a Christina Braid (m1885) daughter Christina Anderson Laing (b 1886) married Andrew Dowie 1910 they were my grandparents.
So Hi Cousin.. :)
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PM heading your way. ;)
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Got some more info at NRH today.
Descendants of George Laing and Isabella Taylor:
Alexander Laing born 13 May 1855 in Carnbee, Colliery Labourer, died 26 Nov 1913 at 9 Stationhead Road, Lochgelly. Never married.
William McCulloch Laing born 3 Mar 1859 in Carnbee, shoemaker, died 7 Oct 1944 at main Street, Colinsburgh. He married (1) Catherine Robertson Buist Berwick on 9 Jun 1882 at Largoward, she was born 10 Dec 1860 at Largoward and died 11 Nov 1909 at Church Place, Largo, and (2) Margaret Anderson Tait on 2 Aug 1912 at the Anchorage, Lower Largo, she was born 24 May 1865 at Largo and died 10 Feb 1947 at Main Street, Colinsburgh.
George Laing born 5 Jan 1862 in Carnbee, Ordnance Worker, died 18 Jun 1928 at 5 Mill Street, Dunfermline. He married Henrietta Jane Low Jameson.
Thomas Laing born 14 Dec 1863 in Carnbee, Oil Work Labourer/Insurance Agent, died 5 Apr 1943 at 58 Small Street, Lochgelly. He married Christina Braid on 18 Dec 1885 in Kinghorn, she was born 25 Dec 1864 in Kirkcaldy and died 11 Nov 1928 in Largo Cottage, Glencraig, Lochgelly.
I ran out of time about this point, but found that Thomas and Christina had a son called George who was born c1889. He was a coal miner and married Julia Rennie Macpherson on 1 jun 1917 at 7 Stationhead Road, Lochgelly.
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That's Brilliant Ostler.
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Got some more info at NRH today ... I ran out of time about this point ...
Hi Ostler ... did you get beaten by the dreaded 4.15 bell? >:(
I missed you by a day :( ... I was in the Matheson Dome all day on Wednesday :)
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Nah I got beaten by the fact it was half 4 and I was still searching. :P
One day our paths will cross... although we probably won't realise it!
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Hi lor57,
Yes, this is the same line of Laings, your David Laing B.1780 is the brother of my John Laing B.1778 who married an Anne Black.
I had your David Laing - Married to Anne Small with children John, Thomas, David, Elizabeth & Isabell, but didn't have George B.1818, - so I 'Thank You' for that, & have since found him & a second John B.1821.
I am happy to swap info with you, or give more details of the above & fill in any blanks, it all helps.
Mythical
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Hi Ostler,
It's been a while since I checked into rootschat - I've just come across you March entry.
I have searched SP many times & other than a marriage entry for Peter Laing & Elizabeth Forbes (parents James Forbes & Ann 'Fraser'??) I can find no Birth or Death entries for her. Also no Death for son James although I have his Birth.
Agnes Mathieson - I have no marriage to Peter Laing or her Birth (mothers m.s. on death looks more like 'Carr'??)
Can you tell me if you have extracts for these & if so where I can find them? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
mythical
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Hi Myth
I got all the extracts from the Scotland's People Centre (up until recently called New Register House), so they should be available on the Scotland's People website as well. Just searched for them - all available.
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Thanks Ostler,
Have found some entries in SP since, will keep looking.
Myth
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Hi,
My kids have just started tracing the family ancestry and found this forum.
I haven't had chance yet to read all the entries and I will do that over the weekend.
In the meantime, my dad was born in West Wemyss in Fife. His name (and that of his father) was John Murray Laing and he was born on 17 January, 1908. My Gran was Georgina Bannerman.
I haver been told that the Murray was part of our surname until dropped by my Grandfather but I have no idea how accurate this is. But, certainly, all the boys have it as one of their first names.
I am looking forward to reading all the entries but, in the meantime, if there is anyone from our branch of the family, it would be great to hear from them.
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Hi
I've hit a block and some of you on this site may be able to help?
Can anyone help with a David Septimus LAING bn about 1874 in Hebburn, Durham.
His father was John LAING and he was married to Jane Irving.
I have John and Jane married and both being born in Scotland.
Anyone have any information on these LAINGS or any of their relatives?
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The Scotland's People website has no marriages for Laing/Irving between 1855 and 1873, but a marriage between a Thomas Laing and Jane Irving in 1874 in Abbotshall, Fife. Of course they may have married pre-statutory records...
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Hi cousins
Just thought I'd let you know that I've 'found' another couple of Laing 'cousins' over the last couple of days - one in Hull, Englandshire and the other in Newcastle, New South Wales.
Hull - connections to Isabella Hogg Laing b. 1883 in Cupar, d. 1951 in Cupar
NSW - connections to James Auchterlonie Laing b. 1874 in dysart, d. 1960 in Newcastle, NSW.
They each have a link to this thread and could well be posting before too long!
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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I got to know of this website from "Cousin" Chiad Fhear. As I live in Australia I would very much like to chat with other relatives especially if they to live in Australia. My pen name is Susie Girl and I am delighted to know I have relatives decending from James Aucterlonie my Husbands Pop Hope to talk to you all
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... I wonder if any of you have laing married to Smart, Cumming or Reid in the 1880-1900's ...Evelina
Hi Evelina
I've a folder of Laings in the 'pendiing tray' for now as I've still to make a connection.
In it is JAMES LAING b. 3 Nov 1874 at Cameron, Fife, married to JANET RITCHIE SMART b. abt. 1877 at Dysart, Fife. James's parents were David and Janet (m.s. Arnot) married 30 Oct 1857 at Kinglassie, Fife and Janet's were John Smart and Jean Ritchie married 4 Jun 1859 at Markinch.
Any help?
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Hi all ... just bringing this up the tree a bit as I've now found out that who I thought was 'ARNOT LAING' was in fact 'JANET ARNOT SMART LAING'. It was the SP search that threw me having recognized 'ARNOT' as one of her names.
Hi again all you Laing 'cousins' out there in the Kingdom!
I have a more current Laing that I need a wee bit of background on to determine if she's linked to my tree before I go spending any more of my genealogy budget .
JANET ARNOT SMART LAING born in Cameron Parish, Fife in 1913 died in St Andrews, Fife 2000. I have her marriage in 1942 and know she had two sons.
If anyone has a connection to Arnot could they help? Given how recent this is I'd be happy to deal via PMs.
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Still have not found my Margaret Laings parents.
She was married to William Laidlaw in Edinburgh mid/late 1800's
They had a son William Walker Laidlaw who died on their anniversary at a year old, I find that very sad.
marcie
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Hi 'cousiins'
There's been a lot of local (Fife) press coverage recently about a WW2 tragedy that hit West Wemyss in 1941 and the forthcoming unveiling of a memorial to mark its 70th Anniversary next year ... http://www.thecourier.co.uk/Community/Heritage-and-History/article/4088/campaign-for-fitting-memorial-to-west-wemyss-wartime-tragedy.html
David Foster Laing, aged 69 when he died on January 23rd 1941.
He was the unmarried son of George Laing and Janet Foster who were married at Dysart Manse on 26th December 1865.
George Laing's parents were Robert Laing, Merchant Seaman, and Mary Murray.
Janet Foster's dad was David Foster, Coal Miner, mother was Elizabeth Fairful
Anyone connected with and/or able to add to this?
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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hello to all my mother was agnes steele laing born in johnstone renfrewshire in 1923,her father was john laing and her mother was agnes mcadam auld does anyone out there have any information about this family kind regards to everyone.
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Hi again 'cousins'
I'm needing some help with the photograph attached.
In the front row, left, is Robert Hynd Laing (b. Burntisland 1900 - d. Ontario 1968) and also in the front row, right, his brother Alexander Laing (b. Auchtermuchty 1913 - d. Lauder, Berwickshire 1966). I'd like to find out if the chap in the middle front is their brother Drummond Laing (born Glentarkie, Abernethy 1906) and if anyone can help with more about him. I'd also like to find out who the men are in the back row of the picture. The chap in the back right may be called Jock Fernie.
Not much to go on, but I feel sure there'll be something comes from this!
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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I found whilst researching my family amarriage in Renfrew for an Agnes Laing
Thought you might be interested
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thankyou very much yes agnes steele laing was my mother and she married a james arthur baillie in paisley in 1944 thanking for passing this on to me kind regards jane
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See what I can find.
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Not sure if my Laing family tree is connected to anyone but here is all the info I have anyway:
My Grandmother: Helen Watson Laing, her father Thomas Laing, 1891 married Helen Duncan in Leslie, Fife
Thomas father Henry Moncur Laing 1866 married Cecelia Hynd
Henry's father Thomas Laing 1837 Ceres married Elizabeth Gay
Thomas father Robert Laing 1797 Anstruther married Anne Bayne
Roberts father William Laing married Mary Lawson in 1794
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Was Anne Bayne who married Robert Laing daughter of John Bain and Catherine Terras?
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Was Anne Bayne who married Robert Laing daughter of John Bain and Catherine Terras?
Yes this is the same Anne Bayne.
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That's interesting, the Terras and Bayne/Bain family were ones I had done a lot of research on (I'm related through marriage) but decided I had enough to worry about with families I'm blood related to!
However I have different parents for Robert than you do. You're more likely correct. Have you got brothers and sisters for Robert?
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Hi, I am related to John Laing and Anne Black (Fife) through their daughter Anne. Anne married James Millar and had 8 kids, one of which was William who married Jane (Jean) Holden Balfour. William and Jane also had 8 children - last of which was Annie Laing Millar (2 x g-grandmother). Annie married into the Lister family and emigrated to New Zealand with her husband Hugh and their family around 1904.
It was pretty exciting for me to see the relationship that Mystical and Sheenie disclosed as I've been struggling with getting further back than John and Anne.
I also have a Christian Laing b1813, m. Thomas Gibson in 1834 whose child Ann also married a Hugh Lister in 1866 (this is a different Hugh Lister than that above but they are related). Any help going back further would be appreciated.
Thanks, Kylie.
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Hi Kylie, John Laing (married to Anne Black) was my Gx5 uncle, his father being my Gx6 grandfather. I was wondering if you could give me the details of the Millar family? Is William the one on IGI as being born 26th October 1826 in Falkland? Feel free to PM if you wish. :)
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Hi Ostler
Oh, that is interesting! What were the names of the parents you have? Unfortunately I don't have any siblings for Robert Laing in my research.
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I have his parents as James Laing and Janet Louden and a birth date of July 1810 in Kemback. His grandparents were apparently James Laing and Agnes Ramsay.
Take all of this with a huge pinch of salt because I got the information from someone else and haven't had the time to verify it yet, but it's food for thought nonetheless!
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Ostler, you're on the money with the William Millar you mentioned, he had a twin called Catharine (confirmed via birth record). Am unable to PM as yet, apparently until I've posted a few times, so hopefully this post will enable me to get the rest of the info through to you without clogging up the forum. :)
Thanks, Kylie.
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This is my surname I am trying to trace ancestors from Leith Shore ?
Any information would be helpful
Kinds regards
Jo
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Hi all Laing descendants:
Just wondered if anyone has any Laings from Leith and Edinburgh areas. I have in my possession certificates and census info relating to Laing people living in the late 1700 and 1800 (In other words still alive when the census started in 1841) Would anyone like this information if I can either send it to you or download it onto here. Not so good at doing that, but can email to anyone anything.
marcie
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Ooooh that'd be lovely, marcie! Any chance you could give us a list of names, just to whet the appetite? :)
Cheers,
Deb
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I will go and check them. Mostly Robert Laings and James because I was looking for Mary Anns' father. Forget my head should have typed Margaret Ann Laing be back in a minute or two.
marcie
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Census taken 30.03.1851 26 Black Hall
John Lang aged 24 Quarry Labr. b. Midlothian
Janet Lang aged 26 b. New Battle
27 Black Hall
Robert Lang Hd 22 Quarry Lbr. b ? Crammond
Margaret Lang W. 21 b. Cockpen
Victoria Lang aged 1mnth
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There is one where the address is illegible.
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There are others, such as a few marriages etc. You will have to give an allowance if I include the same thing twice.
Probably an idea if I take a look again at those I have downloaded before adding the others.
good night and god bless!
marcie
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OK tried something else. set up a new folder and will see if it will upload the whole folder with all the Laing details ive collected, see if this works.
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Hi all these are some Headstones inscriptions I have for
the fore mentioned LAINGs in various Fife Cemeteries
let me know if you see any names of interest and I will
suple the inscription, photos are also available.
Am. 317 David Laine Mary Pratt
La. 314 Alexander Laing Agnes Gatherum
Lg 327 Alexander Laing Christina Laing
Ben 312 Andrew Laing Ann Lister Duncan
Fa 373 Archibald N Laing Elizabeth J K Anderson
Ben 115 Arthur Laing Agnes More
Ben 198 Arthur Laing Catherine Forsyth
Abst 171 David Laing Mary Dodds
Am. 236 David Laing Annie Ford
Am. 386 David Laing Bersy Brunton
Ew 2369 David Laing Isabella Seath
Lg 415 David Laing Elizabeth Michie
Am. 99 Ebenezer Laing Jane Laing
Ew 272 George Laing Mary Taylor
MeM 158 George Laing Rose McLennan
St.Dr 1102 George Laing Margaret Honeyman
Ben 1067 George Crosbie Laing Margaret Wallace Ritchie
Stra 134 Henry Laing Margaret Barclay
Stra 135 Henry Laing died 20.6.1800
Co 159 James Laing Mary Wilson
Dys 1182 James Laing Euphemia Short
Elie 27 James Laing Margaret Elles?
Ew 1321 James Laing Mary Anderson
La. 493 James Laing died 1932 age 56
Old C 61 James Laing Catherine Anderson
Ball 192 John Laing Mary Jane Forbes
Ew 789 John Laing Annie Heigh
Ew 1586 John Laing Winifred Easton
Ew 2031 John Laing Anne Clark
Fa 326 John Laing Jane Birrell
Fa 452 John Laing Mary Ross
MeM 218 John Laing Margaret S Laing
St.Dr 264 John Laing Catherine MacKinnon
WW 68 John Laing Fanny Laing
Ba 97 Peter Laing Annie Johnstone
Dun. 2203 Peter Laing Mary Anne Ross
St.Dr 263 Peter M Laing Sophia S Laing
Ben 15 Robert Laing Janet Wallace
Abst 495 Thomas Laing Janet Irvine
Cults 143 Thomas Laing died 1922 age 79
Cults 146 Thomas Laing Janet Laing
Dys 1209 Thomas Laing Marjory Hutton
Fa 319 Thomas Laing Isabella Laing
Kh 107 Thomas Laing Jessie Boyd
Dys 930 Thomas C Laing Jane Lessels
MeM 326 Watson Laing Elizabert Caird
Ball 96 William Laing Isabella Laing
Ben 352 William Laing Isabella Berry
Dun. 2404 William Laing Mary Nellies
Kh 200 William Laing Elspeth Laing
NorrieG
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Ooooh, thank you Norrie!
*hurries off to consult the notes*
:)
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My Great Grandmother Margaret Gray was born in Burntisland in 1851.
Her sister Mary born c1843 married John Laing 1839-1917(born St Andrews and St Leonards son of William Laing and Helen Balsillie) in Burntisland in 1862. They had 4 children, John b1863 in Dunfermline (died in infancy) Henrietta b1864 in Burntisland, Helen b1866 Ferryport, William b 1869 Ferryport.
John was described as an Engine Driver. He died in Glasgow in 1917. Mary died in Arbroath on 8 july 1901. It looks as if they may have separated as I cannot find them together on any census after 1871
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I can see at least 3 connections to families I am connected to.
Forbes, Clark, Honeyman and of course Laing.
marcie
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Am. 99 Ebenezer Laing Jane Laing
NorrieG
Norrie these are my grandparents. Would really appreciate any detail!
Thanks
Ian
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A while since I was here. Amazed that only one post seems to relate to my lot!
Robert Layng b. 1779 to John Layng and Elspeth Russell (OPR 406/0010/0159 Auchtermuchty. Has anyone any information about John and Elspeth earlier?
I do have fair amount forward from Robert.
Thanks
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Hi Robert your inscription from Auchtermucty
99 Ebenezer LAING died 23.10.1928 age 74
wife Jane LAING died 25.3.1935 age 77
his mother Catherine LEITCH or LAING died 17.10.1905 age 77
these are other Laing in Auchermucty Cemetery any use
Am. 317 David Laing Mary Pratt
Am. 236 David Laing Annie Ford
Am. 386 David Laing Bersy Brunton
Norrie
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Norrie
Thanks a lot
Ian
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Hi Norrie
Ben 352 William Laing and Isabella Berry are 'my Laings'. Would appreciate seeing the info you have for them when you have time.
Many thanks
Sheenie
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... Her sister Mary born c1843 married John Laing 1839-1917 (born St Andrews and St Leonards son of William Laing and Helen Balsillie) in Burntisland in 1862. ...
Hi peterg42
What can you tell me about William Laing and Helen Balsillie mentioned in your message? Parents? Dates and Places of Birth? Marriage Date? Death Dates?
It's just possible they correspond with a William and Helen in my own Laing line.
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Ben 352 William Laing and Isabella Berry are 'my Laings'
Hi Shennie your inscription from Bennochy Cemetery, included photo
352 My Beloved Husband William LAING died 9.7.1902
wife Isabella BERRY died 20.4.1934 age 79
Norrie
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Hi
Does anyone have any information on the family of David Laing and Isabella Laing (married in Kilmany, Fife 5 June 1803)? A daughter of theirs Christian (b 21 Mar 1813 Kimany) married Thomas Gibson on 29 Nov 1834 also in Kilmany.
Thanks,
Kylie.
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Norrie
Many thanks again for your time and trouble
Sheenie
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Hi NorrieG, Re your monumental inscriptions can I please have the details for Dunfermline 2203 Peter Laing & Mary Ann Ross & 2404 William Laing & Mary Nellies.
Thanks Evelina
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Hi Evelina you 2 inscritions from Dunfermline Cemetery, photos available
2404 in memory of our dear Mother
Mary NELLIES died 24.3.1938 age 65
Our Father William Laing died 26.12.1943?
2203 Peter LAING died 28.10.1943 age 64
wife Mary Ann ROSS died 15.4.1963 age 86
son Arthur John LAING died 25.5.1992 age 80
his wife Annie PRYDE died 14.1.1996 age 79
Norrie
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Thanks Norrie, that's great. Cheers Evelina
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sendmeyouremauladdressandiwillsendyouaninvitetoviewmytreeon ancestry margaret laing married charles william laidlaw mhy 4x grtgrandad
marcie
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IGI has the following children for John Laing and Elizabeth Taylor:
RACHEL LAING
Christening: 30 AUG 1719 Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
JANET LAING
Christening: 18 MAR 1722 Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
MARGARET LAING
Christening: 10 MAR 1728 Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
MARJORY LAING
Birth: 17 MAR 1734 Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
ELSPETH LAING
Christening: 29 FEB 1736 Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
AGNES LAING
Christening: 24 SEP 1741 Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
Marriages for John Laing and Elizabeth Taylor:
JOHN LAING
Marriage: 11 OCT 1718 Kilrenny, Fife, Scotland
JOHN LAING
Marriage: 12 OCT 1718 Carnbee, Fife, Scotland
Nothing on a Hugh Laing whatsoever, but there are large gaps between the birth of their children, so who knows?
Thank you - I was hoping that I might get some answers regarding the Taylor/Taylour family who lived in Carnbee. This post is very helpful.
Isobel Taylour married Andrew Johnston at Carnbee on 13th March, 1724. Andrew and Isabel's grave is at Kilrenny (and on Findagrave)
The witnesses at the baptism of their son, Andrew Johnston, who was born on 26th and baptised on the 28th November 1728 were David and John Laings. He was baptised at Carnbee.
On Familysearch is the baptism at Carnbee of Rachel Johnston on 17 Dec 1725. There is also a baptism for James Johnston on 23 July 1727. The parents for both are Andrew Johnston and Isobel Taylor.
My theory is that Elizabeth and Isobel are sisters, and that the name Rachel comes from their family. The Andrew Johnston who was born in 1728 married Euphame Clephane and they also named a daughter Rachel.
David and John Laings (sic) are also witnesses on the same page of the Carnbee parish reguster to the baptisms of:
Alexander Laing on 28th Feb 1729 - parents Da. Laing and Ann Bayne
Alexander Sim on 26th Apr 1729 - parents Thomas Sim and Agnes Herd.
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Hi Folks,
Fell upon this thread quite by accident while “Go ogling” something unconnected!
I have a few CERTS. (different areas/eras) which may be of use to one/some of you?
MARRIAGE 1841 CARNBEE, FIFE (link below)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTP9-15B
JOHN LAING & MARGARET FLEMING married 04 Jan 1814 Carnbee, Fife
Witnesses: William Baxter & ? Fleming (hard to decipher) & couldn’t find a letter the same on the page for comparison but may be Evline/Evlene/Colina/Coline/Colene/?
Children of John Laing & Margaret Fleming (all b Fife, no certs.) but to help, on link below
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hk1/
Anne b 19 October 1842 Carnbee
John b 8 May 1846 Largo
Margaret b 24 February 1849 Largo
OTHER surnames on same page as above MARRIAGE (1840/1841) which includes BAPTISMS are:
BAINE/DICKSON/DRUMMOND/HEGGIE/HERD/RINTOUL/ROLLO/SCOTT
MARRIAGE 1887 PORTMOAK, KINROSS
DAVID LAING 20 & ANNIE WINTON married 18 Jun 1887 Portmoak, Kinross
Usual Residence of David, Easter Colzie, Auchtermuchty, Fife
Usual Residence of Annie, Middleburn, Portmoak
Parents of DAVID – JOHN LAING & MARGARET HAMILTON
Parents of Annie – William Winton & Jane Stewart
Witnesses: John Winton & Janet? Laing
David b Easter Colzie, Abernethy, Perthshire (Prior to it becoming part of Auchtermuchty, Fife)
MARRIAGE 1918 DALZIEL, LANARK
MARY ANNIE LAING or STEEL (Wid) 34 & BRUCE COWIE 29 married 23 May 1918 Motherwell, Lanark
Usual Residence of Mary Annie, Glasgow
Usual Residence of Bruce, Buckie
Parents of MARY ANNIE – HALL LAING & ELLEN WATSON
Parents of Bruce – Alexander King Cowie & Helen Bruce
Witnesses: Duncan Fraser & Greta McRedmond
Annie
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I'm surprised nobody has yet mentioned Eppie Laing the so-called witch in Anstruther in the 17th century who was burnt at the Billowness in West Anstruther.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=cEbyAwAAQBAJ&pg=PT103&lpg=PT103&dq=Eppie+Laing,+Anstruther+witch&source=bl&ots=XdrTk_bodm&sig=N6PwYodoW2sx8-Ax3YvKj37RHL4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi1uKPPzL7MAhUHmR4KHZGgAgAQ6AEIJjAC#v=onepage&q=Eppie%20Laing%2C%20Anstruther%20witch&f=false
Although Carnbee is an inland parish, it overlaps the former fishing villages of St. Monans, Pittenweem, Anstruther and Cellardyke, and some Carnbee men went to the fishing from these ports. On 20th August 1855 David Laing from Arncroach in the parish of Carnbee was one of the crew of the Cellardyke herring boat "Venus" when she was overturned in a gale, and while some of the men were drowned, others clung on for a full two hours before a St. Monans boat rescued them. The story is told by George Gourlay in his book "Fisher Life; or, Memorials of Cellardyke and the Fife Coast" (1879):
" ... Touching to tell poor Malcolm perished with the relief cheer ringing on the waters, and the youth, like a smitten blossom, was lifeless in his brother's arms, when he and David Laing were dragged through the surf by the life lines on board the friendly boat, which at once hastened, with all the speed that a contrary wind would admit, to Anstruther."
An old photo of one of the other survivors, the skipper's son Adam Reid, adorns the front cover of the book I wrote myself about Cellardyke in 1986. He was a cousin of my great-grandmother.
My father was in another "Venus" one night in 1934 when she was rammed by a trawler in fog off Scarborough and sank in four minutes, fortunately none of the crew being drowned. Maybe it wasn't the luckiest of boats' names.
Harry
It sounds as if David Laing lived to fish another day
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I have a Thomas Laing that married a Catherine Duncan.
Their daughter Elizabeth (Eliza) Laing m. Wemyss, James on 03 Jan 1870 at Dysart
she died 25 Jul 1888. Witnesses were Charles Laing and Margaret Russell
Siblings were
?Laing
birth: 10 March 1858 WEMYSS, FIFE, SCOTLAND
Colin Duncan Laing
birth: 15 March 1852
christening: 15 April 1852 WEMYSS, FIFE, SCOTLAND
Eliza Laing
birth: 16 April 1848
christening: 21 May 1848 WEMYSS, FIFE, SCOTLAND
Catharine Laing
birth: 19 October 1837
christening: 29 November 1837 WEMYSS, FIFE, SCOTLAND
Agnes Laing
birth: 9 April 1840
christening: 19 April 1840 WEMYSS, FIFE, SCOTLAND
Thomas Laing
birth: 23 May 1850
christening: 8 July 1850 WEMYSS, FIFE, SCOTLAND
James Laing
birth: 7 August 1842
christening: 21 August 1842 WEMYSS, FIFE, SCOTLAND
Charles Laing
birth: 27 August 1845
christening: 12 October 1845 WEMYSS, FIFE, SCOTLAND
my tree, mostly fife
http://jkl57.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=jkl57&view=23&pid=202&ver=118
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Hi 'cousiins'
There's been a lot of local (Fife) press coverage recently about a WW2 tragedy that hit West Wemyss in 1941 and the forthcoming unveiling of a memorial to mark its 70th Anniversary next year ... http://www.thecourier.co.uk/Community/Heritage-and-History/article/4088/campaign-for-fitting-memorial-to-west-wemyss-wartime-tragedy.html (http://www.thecourier.co.uk/Community/Heritage-and-History/article/4088/campaign-for-fitting-memorial-to-west-wemyss-wartime-tragedy.html)
David Foster Laing, aged 69 when he died on January 23rd 1941.
He was the unmarried son of George Laing and Janet Foster who were married at Dysart Manse on 26th December 1865.
George Laing's parents were Robert Laing, Merchant Seaman, and Mary Murray.
Janet Foster's dad was David Foster, Coal Miner, mother was Elizabeth Fairful
Anyone connected with and/or able to add to this?
Regards
Chiad Fhear
I have a sneaking suspicion I am related very distantly to George Laing - parents were Robert Laing, Merchant Seaman, and Mary Murray. As I have both surnames in my tree from Wemyss. I also have Birrells and Wilkies as distant relatives.
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Hi 'cousiins'
There's been a lot of local (Fife) press coverage recently about a WW2 tragedy that hit West Wemyss in 1941 and the forthcoming unveiling of a memorial to mark its 70th Anniversary next year ... http://www.thecourier.co.uk/Community/Heritage-and-History/article/4088/campaign-for-fitting-memorial-to-west-wemyss-wartime-tragedy.html (http://www.thecourier.co.uk/Community/Heritage-and-History/article/4088/campaign-for-fitting-memorial-to-west-wemyss-wartime-tragedy.html)I am also wondering if there is a connection, my william laidlaw married a elizabeth margaret laing her father was either james or robert laing, the records are uncertain.
David Foster Laing, aged 69 when he died on January 23rd 1941.
He was the unmarried son of George Laing and Janet Foster who were married at Dysart Manse on 26th December 1865.
George Laing's parents were Robert Laing, Merchant Seaman, and Mary Murray.
Janet Foster's dad was David Foster, Coal Miner, mother was Elizabeth Fairful
Anyone connected with and/or able to add to this?
Regards
Chiad Fhear
I have a sneaking suspicion I am related very distantly to George Laing - parents were Robert Laing, Merchant Seaman, and Mary Murray. As I have both surnames in my tree from Wemyss. I also have Birrells and Wilkies as distant relatives.
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The likes of Paxo & Co on the BBC keep pronouncing Laing (psychologist) as Lang. Very irritating!
Skoosh.
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I'd be guilty of saying "Lang". How is it correctly pronounced?
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The ran in Span stays manly in the plan?
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@ Hurworth, as it's spelled! ;D
Skoosh.
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As "Skoosh" says, just as it's spelled, with 'ai' not 'a'.
Seems half of Fife is descended from the "Fife Laings".
John Laing (1740-1805) & Margaret Greig (1746-1819) are my 5x Great Grandparents.
John Laing (1778-1848) & Ann Black (1775-1853) 4x.
Thomas Laing (1807-1872 & *Isabel(la) Edmund/Edmond/Ednie (1807-1870) 3x.
Isabella Laing (abt 1833-1911) & Alexander Wannan (1835-1918) 2x.
*Isabel Edmund, daughter of David Edmund & Isabel Hayne, was born 26th bap. 30th Aug.1807 at St Andrews, Fife. Isabel, her brother David & sisters, Agnes, Janet & Christian, all swap between the surnames Edmond & Ednie. (Great fun to track!)
Thomas Laing & Isabel Ednie married 1st Aug.1829 at Crail, Fife. ScotlandsPeople have wrongly transcribed Thomas' surname as Lainy (waiting for confirmation from SP that his surname is Laing). On the next page is the birth of John Laing, Son of Thomas Laing & Isabel Ednie, born 2nd, bap. 24th Oct.1829 at Crail. (Got the name right this time.) I've not found son John on any Census Returns etc. & he may be the John Laing who died 22nd July 1839 at Third Part, Kemback. Thomas Laing & Isabella Edna his Wife had a daughter baptized 1839 at Kemback.
Regards, Dod.
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wonder then if my elizabeth laing married to william laidlaw is part of this group her father was either john or james
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Hi All,
Sorry to resurrect this ancient thread, but just making myself known. I am descended from a David Laing b 1873, who I am reasonably sure was one of David Laing/Christian Skinner's grandchildren. This is a family that appears to feature in a few people's trees here. David (1873) was son of another David Laing and Ann(e) Williamson.
Mike
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...I also have Drummonds in my tree from the Largo/Largoward area. This is another name that seems to have a lot of Laing links.
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Hi Mike
Welcome to RootsChat and thanks for your posts. If you look back the Thread you'll see it pops up every now and again so don't concern yourself about resurrecting it.
David and Christian were my maternal 2nd Great Grandparents - not that I even knew them :D
David (1873) was married twice. First to Euphemia Morris Brown on 1 Jan 1897 at Rumgally, Parish of Kemback, Fife. She died on 7 Feb 1905 and David remarried Janet Miller Blyth on 26 Apr 1906 in the Baptist Church, Forth Street, Burntisland, Fife.
David and Euphemia had two children; David 4 Dec 1897 at Rumgally and Barbara Brown 16 Aug 1904 at Ballass, Cupar, Fife. Barbara married George Stephen Drummond (no connection to my maternal Drummond/Laing line) on 18 Nov 1927 at Wester Radernie, Cameron, Fife. As far a I know they only had one daughter Euphemia who married Francis Alexander Stirling on 24 Nov 1951 in Fallfield Bank, Kilconquhar, Fife.
If you have any further information please pass it on. After a few more posts you can use the Personal Message system here which lets you share email address. It's even easier then to pass on more information.
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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her father was james laing but do not know much more than that about him Ithink that he started off as one thing,but i think he was intelligent to do article work as a clerk , maybe a bookbinder?though its so long gp since I researched this I cant remember cant say if tis is wrong or right
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Hi 'cousiins'
There's been a lot of local (Fife) press coverage recently about a WW2 tragedy that hit West Wemyss in 1941 and the forthcoming unveiling of a memorial to mark its 70th Anniversary next year ... http://www.thecourier.co.uk/Community/Heritage-and- I have a hogHistory/article/4088/campaign-for-fitting-memorial-to-west-wemyss-wartime-tragedy.html (http://www.thecourier.co.uk/Community/Heritage-and-History/article/4088/campaign-for-fitting-memorial-to-west-wemyss-wartime-tragedy.html)I am also wondering if there is a connection, my william laidlaw married a elizabeth margaret laing her father was either james or robert laing, the records are uncertain.
David Foster Laing, aged 69 when he died on January 23rd 1941.
He was the unmarried son of George Laing and Janet Foster who were married at Dysart Manse on 26th December 1865.
George Laing's parents were Robert Laing, Merchant Seaman, and Mary Murray.
Janet Foster's dad was David Foster, Coal Miner, mother was Elizabeth Fairful
Anyone connected with and/or able to add to this?
Regards
Chiad Fhear
I have a sneaking suspicion I am related very distantly to George Laing - parents were Robert Laing, Merchant Seaman, and Mary Murray. As I have both surnames in my tree from Wemyss. I also have Birrells and Wilkies as distant relatives.
I have johannes foster in my tree as well. no wondering whu they names their son william walker laidlaw where that comes into it down the line
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The late footballer Davie Laing was born at Gateside in Fife. The Edinburgh papers are mourning him as a great player for Hearts, but in the west of Scotland they remember him playing for Clyde.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/family-pay-tribute-clyde-legend-10827259
Harry
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I think that margaret anne laings father was named james more tha that I cannot be sure, although I think he did bookbinding, but cannot be cerain its been a long time since i did any research on that branch of the family, williams ancestor was married to johhanes foster. ot joan foster
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Hi!
I'm a bit late to the show but oh well. Nothing new there.
David Laing (b. abt 1820 Kilrenny, Fife) and Christian Skinner (b. 24 SEP 1820 • Newburn, Fife, Scotland) are my 5th Great Grandparents through my maternal grandmother.
Now here is where it gets tricky:
David and Christian's son Thomas married Ann Mitchell and they had Archibald Mitchell Laing.
David and Christian's son John married Margaret Hamilton and they had Margaret Hamilton Laing.
Margaret Hamilton Laing had a son to Alexander Thomson. Then she married her cousin Archibald Mitchell Laing.
Their daughter Margaret Morris Hamilton Laing had a daughter and son to Fred Anderson. She later married John Waddell and had family to him. The daughter that she had with Fred Anderson, Margaret Laing, is my great gran who I knew well until she died in 2007 when I was still just a child.
Our family has a lot of stories, especially from grandparents. I'm hoping to someday soon record a lot of these stories so they don't become lost overtime.
It is good to know that quite a lot of David and Christian's other descendants are still in Fife.
Goodnight,
Leigh
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Not sure if my Laing family tree is connected to anyone but here is all the info I have anyway:
My Grandmother: Helen Watson Laing, her father Thomas Laing, 1891 married Helen Duncan in Leslie, Fife
Thomas father Henry Moncur Laing 1866 married Cecelia Hynd
Henry's father Thomas Laing 1837 Ceres married Elizabeth Gay
Thomas father Robert Laing 1797 Anstruther married Anne Bayne
Roberts father William Laing married Mary Lawson in 1794
Hi Declin
Re Henry Moncur Laing 1866 - 1931 m Cecilia Hynd 1864 - 1853
Are you on Ancestry? Msge me jes2012 I have pprivate tree there on this
Sheila
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Hi happy new year. My name is Colin Laing i live on Skye but my ancestry comes from Perthshire and Fife.
my father Charles (87) is son of Robert (methven)/Christina Whyte (Banff MacDuff) son of Robert/ janet (Dawson) (forteviot) Son of James and Elisabeth (Scott)(Errol/Carnbee ) then it looks like he is son of Robert /Agnes (mackie) (Carnbee) who is son of David /Ann Small Carnbee and ultimately so far John Laing and Margaret (Grieg)(Carnbee) as far as i can establish. any other information appreciated.
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Just by chance I noticed today a mention of an Andrew Laing, a child moulder in the Carron Iron Works, Falkirk. in the early 1840's. Andrew, age 12, had already worked 4 years at pot moulding. He worked 12 to 14 hours every day & gets 20 minutes for each meal, his master gives him 3/6d a week for his mother. Hard times, from Robert Duncan's, "Sons of Vulcan".
Birlinn, pub.
Bests,
Skoosh.
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Hi happy new year. My name is Colin Laing i live on Skye but my ancestry comes from Perthshire and Fife.
my father Charles (87) is son of Robert (methven)/Christina Whyte (Banff MacDuff) son of Robert/ janet (Dawson) (forteviot) Son of James and Elisabeth (Scott)(Errol/Carnbee ) then it looks like he is son of Robert /Agnes (mackie) (Carnbee) who is son of David /Ann Small Carnbee and ultimately so far John Laing and Margaret (Grieg)(Carnbee) as far as i can establish. any other information appreciated.
Hi Colin,
I hope you're still interested in finding your cousins, because that's what we are. :) 4th cousins once removed, if I'm reading you correctly!