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Title: Pensions granted to Fishmongers tenants
Post by: pkincaid on Sunday 15 February 09 14:46 GMT (UK)
The following are tenants of the Fishmongers Company estate in the vicinity of Ballykelly who were granted weekly pensions.  These I have summarized so the information is not exactly as it appears in the records.

Peter A. Kincaid, Fredericton, NB, Canada


MS 5571, Guildhall Library, London.  Fishmongers Court Minute Books, Vol. 13, 5 February

1824 to 29 September 1828.

p. 45.  10 June 1824.

Weekly grant of 2 shillings to:

John Brogan, Glack, aged 65
Sarah Haran, Dunbrock, age 85
Mic. McClanagan, Gresteel, age 80

Weekly grant of one shilling and six pence to:

Henry Donagh, Ballykelly, age 82, a cripple
Margaret Deans, Ballykelly, age 80, bed ridden
Rebecca Thompson, Gresteel, age 79
Una Devin, Mulderig, age 80, partly blind
Jane Hanagan, Gortilea, age 72
Charles McLaughlin, Ballymaclanagan, age 77
Nancy Hamilton, Ballyhanedin, age 71

Special case grant of 2 shillings per week to:

Mary Allison, Ballykelly, age 53, insane

Special case grant of one shilling and six pence per week to:

Elizabeth Moor, Broglascow, age 55, eight children, one partly blind and two dead
Mary Carr, Kinculbrack, age 68, blind


p. 101.  16 December 1824.

Two shilling per week grant to Thomas McKown.


p. 189.  16 February 1826.

Two shilling per week grant to:

Isabella Moore, Terglessan, having a brother and sister to take care of; both deaf and dumb.

George Donaghy, Ballykelly, School Master, without the use of his limbs.


One shilling, six pence per week grant to:

Robert Thompson, Carrickhugh, blind, 80 years old
Evenue Kane, Sistrokeel, lost the use of his limbs
William Blair, Kinculbrack, 3 small children and wife subject to fits
John Carson, Carnimuff, 85 years old
Widow Dealy, Broharris, 80 years old
Catherine McCay, Glasvea, for her sister who is in a consumption and can earn nothing
Mary Mealy, Dunbrock, 80 years old

One shilling per week grant to:

Neal Duffy, Ballykelly, very aged and distressed
Manus McKeevor, Gortilea, 75 years old
Bryan Mullan, Glack, old and infirm

Title: Re: Pensions granted to Fishmongers tenants
Post by: Gortinanima on Sunday 15 February 09 17:30 GMT (UK)


Brilliant material Peter,

The Fishmoners' archive is a real treasure
trove of genealogical interest.
Thanks for putting the material online.
Title: Re: Pensions granted to Fishmongers tenants
Post by: kingskerswell on Sunday 15 February 09 17:43 GMT (UK)
Peter,
        I agree with Gortinanima. With your permission I should like to download this information and use it to help others. I shall, of course, always credit you as the source.

Regards
Title: Re: Pensions granted to Fishmongers tenants
Post by: pkincaid on Sunday 15 February 09 18:25 GMT (UK)
I posted this in the spirit of helping others as some of you have helped me with some Kincaid tidbits.  As the saying goes, you reap what you sow.  Do not hesitate to use any of the information for your research and to help others.

The Fishmonger minute books are not an easy source to quickly get tidbits from as the Irish data is spread among other entries relating to all of their business in Ireland and England.  However, it is indeed a treasure trove of genealogical tidbits.  I will continue to pull pension tidbits, leases, etc. from them as I find them.  I must stress that there is wonderful data to be gleaned from the visitation reports.  There were a few in 1820 and visitations occurred about every three years or so after that.  They are a real live history of the area and there are lots of tenant references in them.

Title: Re: Pensions granted to Fishmongers tenants
Post by: Gortinanima on Sunday 15 February 09 20:01 GMT (UK)

Another tidbit I came across in my notes:

Christchurch [Drumachose], Limavady Church of Ireland

PRONI MIC/583/1: Drumachose Church of Ireland (Christchurch), Marriages 1728-1753

A register book of the parish of Drumchose

Anno – 1728

Marriages:

Nov

John Beard and Isabel Kinkead --

Title: Re: Pensions granted to Fishmongers tenants
Post by: pkincaid on Monday 16 February 09 21:21 GMT (UK)
MS 5571, Guildhall Library, London.  Fishmongers Court Minute Books, Vol. 13, 5 February 1824 to 29 September 1828.

p. 379.  1 August 1827.

Weekly pension of 1 shilling recommended to widow McDermot, many years the occupier of the lodge to Walworth House, now let to The Rev. G. V. Sampsom

p. 380.  1 August 1827.

Weekly pensions of 1 shilling each recommended to widow Cain, alias McAlary, Mary Brogan and Margaret McGee.

p. 457. 17 January 1828.

Weekly pensions:

John Hamilton and his wife, Letterlogher, 2 shillings

John Crichton, Letterlogher, 1 shilling 6 pence, for the support of an orphan ideot under 17 years of age.

p. 518. 

Weekly pensions to:

John McCrea, Carrikue, 1 shilling 6 pence
Alexander Walker, Ballymaclanaghan, 1 shilling



MS 5571, Guildhall Library, London.  Fishmongers Court Minute Books, Vol. 14, 31 October 1828 to 1 August 1833.

p. 55.  22 January 1829.

Weekly pension of 1 shilling to Jane McCoy.

p. 104.  1 August 1829.

Weekly pensions to:

widow Donaghy, Gortilea, 1 shilling 6 pence
widow Watson, Killycor, 1 shilling 6 pence
Mary Hanna, Gresteel, 1 shilling
James King, Gresteel, 1 shilling

p. 121. 28 October 1829.

Weekly pension of 1 shilling 6 pence to Andrew Todd.

p. 162. 25 February 1830.

Weekly pension of 2 shillings to D. McCormack.

p. 177.  22 April 1830.

Weekly pension of 2 shilling to George Donaghy, Ballykelly, in addition to his present pension of 2 shilling.

p. 182.  29 May 1830.

Weekly pension of 2 shilling to Charles Mullan, Ballykelly, upwards of 80 years of age.

p. 216.  2 August 1830.

Weekly pension of 1 shilling 6 pence to Rose Granaghan

p. 250. 16 December 1830.

Weekly pension of 1 shilling 6 pence to William Perkins, deceased, be continued to his widow.

p. 267.  17 February 1831.

Weekly pension of 2 shillings to Thomas Ross.

p. 322.  23 August 1831.

Weekly pension of 1 shilling 6 pence to Margaret Duffy.

p. 375.  16 February 1832.

Weekly pension of 1 shilling 6 pence to widow Donaghy and Andrew Mitchell.
Title: Re: Pensions granted to Fishmongers tenants
Post by: pkincaid on Monday 16 February 09 21:40 GMT (UK)
MS 5571, Guildhall Library, London.  Fishmongers Court Minute Books, Vol. 14, 31 October 1828 to 1 August 1833.

p. 471.  25 October 1832.

Weekly pensions to:

widow Lynch, Ballykelly, age 75, blind for the last 5 years, 1 shilling 6 pence.
widow McLaughlin, Killycor, age 96, a dependent on casual relief, 1 shilling 6 pence.
Thomas Deveny, Carrikue, age 79, can earn nothing, 1 shilling 6 pence.
John Keys, Ned, age 76, unable to work, formerly a tenant, 1 shilling 6 pence.
William Dogherty, Gortgar, age 76, unable to work and has a wife of some age, 1 shilling 6 pence.
Margaret Boyd, Gresteel, age 94, utterly destitute, 1 shilling 6 pence.
Ann Rea, Broglascow, age 72, lame and blind, 1 shilling
Brian MacGerrigle, Glack, age 80, bent double, 1 shilling
John Cassidy, Killycor, age 95, unable to work, 1 shilling
Mary Wilson, Ballykelly, age 71, nearly blind, 1 shilling
Molly Green, Gortalea, age 90, quite destitute, 1 shilling
Fanny McFarland, Ned, age 74, nearly blind, 1 shilling
widow McGee, Tullyhoe, age 98, quite destitute, 1 shilling
Margaret James, Gresteel, very old but age not known, quite destitute, 1 shilling
Manus McKeevor, Gortalea, age 90, a miserable object and has a pension of 1 s. a week, 1 shilling 6 pence more.

This batch was given by representatives from the Company on a visitation to the Londonderry estates.  The commentary following was quite moving.  They noted that the above were part of a group as destitute as one could see anywhere with more needing aid.

Title: Re: Pensions granted to Fishmongers tenants
Post by: pkincaid on Tuesday 03 March 09 16:13 GMT (UK)
More pensions as abstracted by Peter A. Kincaid of Fredericton, NB, Canada.

MS 5571, Guildhall Library, London.  Fishmongers Court Minute Books, Vol. 15, 28 September 1833 to 13 April 1837.

p. 80.  1 August 1834.

Weekly pension of 2 shilling to Patrick McLamond of Ballykelly.


MS 5571, Guildhall Library, London.  Fishmongers Court Minute Books, Vol. 15, 28 September 1833 to 13 April 1837.

p. 102.  30 October 1834.

Weekly pension of 1 shilling 6 pence to Isaac Connor of Glack & William McCoy of Ballykelly.


MS 5571, Guildhall Library, London.  Fishmongers Court Minute Books, Vol. 15, 28 September 1833 to 13 April 1837.

p. 225.  15 June 1835.

Weekly pensions to:

Brian Duggy of Glack, 1 shilling
Richard Orr of Ballykelly & his wife, 1 shilling each
George McDivill of Gresteel, 1 shilling
Hugh Loughbery of Ballykelly & his sister, 1 shilling each
Title: Re: Pensions granted to Fishmongers tenants
Post by: Jackie McFeely on Saturday 22 August 09 12:01 BST (UK)
Great work Peter, keep it up.  My Family (McFeely) is mentioned a lot in the Fishmongers papers, although I would love to see the estate records to see if there is any more info on Dennis McFeely from Ballyholly.

Once again, keep up the good work people do appreciate it.
Title: Re: Pensions granted to Fishmongers tenants
Post by: WM1909 on Thursday 27 July 17 08:08 BST (UK)
Peter,

Thanks for all of your extractions from the Fishmongers' Company records. Given the pending end of the LDS church microfilm lending program in August 2017, I have been considering ordering a few reels of the Fishmongers' records, but wouldn't know where to start among the 77(!) reels.

To your knowledge, are there any records from the 1600s with regard to the planter families that were brought into the Plantation of Ulster? In particular, I am interested in tracing the McCunn/McConn family back to Scotland, and have hit a dead end in County Londonderry in 1662.

Any recommendations on which Fishmongers reels to target (or avoid) for original leases from the 17th or 18th centuries would be appreciated. Thanks!
Title: Re: Pensions granted to Fishmongers tenants
Post by: pkincaid on Thursday 27 July 17 18:54 BST (UK)
Unfortunately it has been 8 years since I went through some of the films so my familiarity of them is gone; that is outside of my notes.  The only thing I can say is one has to trust the film descriptions given at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/754514?availability=Family%20History%20Library.  They generally deal with the period the description gives.

Best wishes!
Title: Re: Pensions granted to Fishmongers tenants
Post by: WM1909 on Thursday 27 July 17 21:23 BST (UK)
Thanks! Will let you know if I have any luck and post results accordingly.
Title: Re: Pensions granted to Fishmongers tenants
Post by: Pjmullan on Tuesday 13 March 18 23:54 GMT (UK)
Just read your post on pensions that has given me another area to search thanks PJ