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Title: Charles MANBY in Melbourne
Post by: Gertie on Monday 09 March 09 03:32 GMT (UK)
Could someone please look up the electoral Roll in Victoria, for the following 2 people for me.

Professor Charles Evelyn Creasy Jensen Manby b. 1870 Hammersmith London. Died in 1944
Madame Lila Helen Jaques b. 18 September 1887 Footscray, Victoria.  Died 1941 South Australia.

I would be most grateful of some help in locating these 2 people and their children if they had any.

Regards

Gertie
Title: Re: Charles Manby in Melbourne
Post by: cando on Monday 09 March 09 04:04 GMT (UK)
Australian Electoral Rolls
Victoria
1909
MANBY Charles 247 Williams Road, Hawksburn  Teacher of music
MANBY Lila  247 Williams Road, Hawksburn   Musician

1914
MANBY Charles 197 Danks Road, Albert Park   Manager
MANBY Lila Helen  197 Danks Road, Albert Park  Home duties

1919
MANBY Charles  36 Cromwell Road, Toorak  Manager
MANBY Lila  36 Cromwell Road, Toorak  Musician

1924
MANBY Charles  9 Oban Road  South Yarra  Manager
MANBY Lila  9 Oban Road, South Yarra  Musician

1931, 1936
MANBY Charles 9 Oban Road South Yarra  Manager
MANBY Lila  9 Oban Road, South Yarra   Home duties

Birth
JAQUES Lila Helen
Father James Joseph  Mother Eliza Jane ALLENBY
At Footscray  1887  Reg# 11179

Marriage
MANBY Charles Evelyn Cresey born London
JAQUES Lila Helen
1906  Reg#6880

No births to this couple to 1920 limit of indexes.

Lila did not die in South Australia.

Deaths
MANBY Charles Evelyn Creasey Jensen
Father Manby John Edward    Mother Caroline  JENSEN
At South Melbourne  74 years
1944  Reg#5725

MANBY Lila
Father JAQUES James John  Mother Eliza ALLENBY
At South Melbourne  50 years
1941  Reg#583


Cando

Title: Re: Charles Manby in Melbourne
Post by: cando on Monday 09 March 09 04:22 GMT (UK)
Charles is buried alone at Springvale Botanical Cemetery

http://www.deceasedsearch.com/index.php

MANBY  Charles Jensen   
Date of Service    16 Jun 1944
Burial Type    Burial     
Location Details    Church of England - Monumental Compartment H Section 8 Grave 14    
Public Grave  No
Tenure Date    This memorial is held in perpetuity - for all time

Cando
Title: Re: Charles Manby in Melbourne
Post by: sparrett on Monday 09 March 09 04:22 GMT (UK)
Hi All,

In The Argus newspaper dated  Wed 11th Jan. 1945, there is a public notice regarding the estate of the late Charles, Evelyn Cresey Jensen Manby who died intestate.
his last addresses are given.
Champion House, 57 to 59 Swanston Street Melbourne and  36 Royal Pde,Parkville.
Sue

http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
Title: Re: Charles Manby in Melbourne
Post by: sparrett on Monday 09 March 09 04:30 GMT (UK)
Adding also that some musical documents are available for reading digitised on out National Archive website.

There is one entitled the Separartion Waltz and it is dedicated to "all those ladies who worked so hard for the cause"

It seems to be published in Townsville in 1891 and printed in Brisbane.

Is this the same man?

He goes under the simpler name of Charles Manby.

Sue

http://www.naa.gov.au/
Title: Re: Charles Manby in Melbourne
Post by: cando on Monday 09 March 09 04:38 GMT (UK)
Interesting snippet on the Music Council of Australia website

http://www.mca.org.au/web/content/view/51/6


Other forms of instrumental music in government schools, although forming part of the extra-curricular program mainly in secondary schools, developed with such initiatives as violin teaching in Victoria where, from 1919, Charles Manby introduced a patented violin with a hollow-stopped finger board and a colour-coded teaching method (Cameron 1969, pp.167-176). Although the Manby method met with only limited success, the Gillies Bequest of £10,000 in 1925 enabled the purchase of instruments for school bands and orchestras in Victoria and led to the formation in 1939 of a State Schools’ Orchestra Association.
 
Title: Re: Charles Manby in Melbourne
Post by: Gertie on Monday 09 March 09 05:10 GMT (UK)
Hello Cando,

Thankyou, for the time you spent locating my ancestors.  It was very much appreciated.

Regards

Gertie
Title: Re: Charles Manby in Melbourne
Post by: Gertie on Monday 09 March 09 05:25 GMT (UK)
Thanks Sue,

That would be the same Charles Manby.   Charles and his brother Harland Manby immigrated to Victoria on the Ship Orient in 1889.  Harland (a Violinest) didn't like it there so went to on  New Zealand.  Charles went back to England and lived with his mother Caroline, a widow, in Bath Somerset.  Charles took up the position of Professor of Music and was there in Bath in 1901.  After that I hadn't been able to locate him, but thanks to  Melbourne Newspapers online, I spotted him yesterday.

Gertie
Title: Re: Charles Manby in Melbourne
Post by: cando on Monday 09 March 09 05:38 GMT (UK)
Gertie do you have the following in NZ

http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/home/

Marriage
1905/1510   
BENNETT Jane Elizabeth
MANBY Harland Woods Jensen
 
Birth - limit of indexes 1909
1906/9491   
MANBY   Lionel William    
Mother Jane Elizabeth   Father  Harland Woods Jensen
   
Deaths
1952/18569   
MANBY   Harland Woods Jensen    80 years

1952/24521   
MANBY  Elizabeth Jane    74 years

I guess you have traced Charles via the 1871, 1881 census and then his widowed mother [born Denmark] living with her father and sister in the 1891 census in Bath.

Cando
Title: Re: Charles Manby in Melbourne
Post by: Gertie on Monday 09 March 09 05:50 GMT (UK)
I had noted the census record of Charles' mother and grandparents.  I have also found his sister Eveline Manby who married Mowbray Aston Green.

I cannot find any record of the other brother, except in the 1881 census.  He was Lionel Blenkinsop Jensen Manby b. 1874 in Hammersmith.

Gertie 
Title: Re: Charles Manby in Melbourne
Post by: Gertie on Monday 09 March 09 05:59 GMT (UK)
I have visited the graves in Inglewood, New Zealand  of Harland and Jane Elizabeth Manby and their son Lionel William and Myra Manby.

Thanks for all the information

Gertie
Title: Re: Charles Manby in Melbourne
Post by: cando on Monday 09 March 09 06:28 GMT (UK)
I had noted the census record of Charles' mother and grandparents.  I have also found his sister Eveline Manby who married Mowbray Aston Green.

I cannot find any record of the other brother, except in the 1881 census.  He was Lionel Blenkinsop Jensen Manby b. 1874 in Hammersmith.

Gertie 

On the 1891 Census Lionel is living with his mother at Ash Dene, Bath, aged 15 and a scholar.

Cando
Title: Re: Charles Manby in Melbourne
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 10 March 09 06:23 GMT (UK)
Hi
 I have also found his sister Eveline Manby who married Mowbray Aston Green.

Further searches on free bdm uk show that she died.

Evelyn Frances  Green died March 1/4 1902 @ Bath. 5c 431 aged 28.

There is a possible birth of a child in 1897 in Bath  [5c 548] named John Mobray Green.

It also appears that Mowbray  Ashton Green married again.
Sue