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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Durham => England => Durham Lookup Requests => Topic started by: aidansrest on Monday 13 April 09 13:52 BST (UK)
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Hi All,
Following all the help I recieved when researching Jane Salmon I wonder if anybody would be able to find Thomas Salmon (Jane's g grandfather) before 1871.
Thomas married Margaret Swinburne between 1861-1864 (although I can't find any trace of this marriage) probably in Chester-le-Street. Thomas could have been born anywhere between 1832-1839 and I can only find him on two census the 1871 and 1881 where he states both times that he was born in Leamington Lane (Yorkshire/Durham). I have no idea where he might mean.
His occupation was a blacksmith.
Can anybody trace him between 1841 and 1871. I've tried all combinations of his name and age to no avail!
Margaret was born about 1836 to Robert Swinburne and Margaret Davison. Robert was born in 1812 in Chester-le-Street and married Margaret in 1832. As well as Margaret the couple also had Elizabeth born about 1830, Jane 1833, Mary 1839, William in 1843, Ann in 1845, george in 1848 and Thomas in 1850.
However, although I can trace this family in 1851 I can't find them either in 1841 - any ideas?
Once again, thanks to all for your previous assistance!
Sue
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Hi Sue,
Sorry, I can't find Thomas either but in 1841 Margaret's family seem to be at HO107/300/2 27 4 in Chester le Street (leave surname out)
:)
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Hi Sue,
Do you have him in 1891 census? When did wife Margaret die?
I was just wondering about this one, maybe a remarriage, and if born Bedale (Beadle on census) that's quite near Leaming in North Yorkshire
1891 RG12 Piece 4072 Folio 126 Page 34
14 Duncombe Street, Spennymoor, Durham
Thomas Salmon head m 55 Blacksmith Beadle, Yorkshire
Mabel " wife m 47 South Shields, Durham
Joseph C Parkinson son 17 Coalminer Durham Bradbury
Peter Charlton boarder s 39 " Durham Stanhope
in 1881 Mabel is married to Christopher Parkinson with sons inc Joseph
RG11 Piece 4961 Folio 66 Page 19
Just a thought :-\
Barbara :)
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Hi Barbara,
I was just going to post that one!! ;D
Going off that I found a James and Joseph with 'Beadle' as birthplace so have got this one now- what do you think?
1841 HO107; Piece 1248; Book: 7;Folio: ; Page: 1
Gatenby, Burnerston Yorkshire
Thomas Salmon ag lab not born in county
Rebecca 10 yrs
James 9 yrs
Dinah 5 yrs
Joseph 3 yrs
Thomas 1 yr
chn all born in county
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1851 HO107; Piece: 2378; Folio: 191; Page: 1
family still in Gatenby and Dinah is born Leeming ;D
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Can't see him in 1861 but Thomas and Joseph are on IGI - extracted records Burneston- parents Thomas and Elizabeth.
Free BMD has death for Elizabeth 1841
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Hi Barbara,
I was just going to post that one!! ;D
Had to go out for a while - great minds think alike, Heywood :D
I was thinking about where Leaming Lane could be and the only Leaming I could think of was the one near Bedale, so looks likely, doesn't it?
Give me a min to get back into it!
Barbara :)
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Thomas senior aged 30 in 1841 btw ;)
looks v promising
Here's the full 1851
HO107 Piece 2378 Folio 191 Page 1
Gatenby, Yorkshire
SALMON
Thomas head wid 44 Farm Lab Sussex Eastburn (Eastbourne?)
George son unm 21 " Yorks Gatenby
Thomas " 11 Scholar " "
Dinah dau 15 " Leeming
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Thomas aged 30 in 1841 btw ;)
Still looking for later census but looks v promising
oops sorry ::) and sorry again- didn't read all your post ;D
btw 1851- Thomas snr is born Sussex
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Tripping over each other ;D
What about this for Thomas senior in 1861, moved to Durham & remarried perhaps:
Dec 1857 Durham 10a 329 Thomas Salmon Ann Blenkinsop
1861 RG9 Piece 3736 Folio 106 Page 23/24
Crossgate Durham
Thomas Salmon head m 55 Ag Lab Sussex Brighton
Ann Salmon wife m 44 Yorks Romaldkirk
Elizabeth Blenkinsop dau in law s 19 Domestic Servant Romaldkirk
John Blenkinsop son in law 16 Printer Compositor App "
William Salmon son 2 Durham, Durham
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I agree wholeheartedly ;D
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Oh good! Hope Sue does too!
1861 son George is married to Elizabeth and living in Darlington
RG 9/ 3679 folio 23 page 40
where is Thomas??
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I think Joseph (Salmons) is married and living with in laws in Cornforth Durham
1861 RG9; Piece: 3697; Folio: 14; Page: 23
so looks like family have moved ... echo .. where is Thomas??
James is an ag labourer in Boldon Durham
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Hi All,
Thanks for locating Thomas's family! He's an elusive character isnt he? At least though, he's only missing from the 1861 census now, a complete misspelling of his surname may be to blame,
Thanks again
Sue
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PS, Thomas,s wife, Margaret, died in 1882, so yes, that is probably him in 1891 remarrying,
Sue
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Hi Sue (great name by the way).
Thomas Salmon and Margaret Salmon (nee Swinburne) are my great, great, great grandparents, and my own grandmother's great grandparents (she - BTW, is 96 and still going strong).
Interested to learn from the above that Thomas possibly remarried after Margaret died in 1882? Did you end up finding out any more about that?
Also wondering where Jane fits in. We only know of Thomas's children with Margaret: Thomas (Jr), Robert and George - who was my own grandmother's grandfather.
George (b. ~1868) went on to marry Elizabeth Ann Moore; George and Elizabeth then had a son, Fred Salmon, who was my grandmother's father. He, however, died when he was only 29 and she was only tiny (was sitting on his knee when he collapsed), so she doesn't really know anything at all about the Salmon side of her family (Elizabeth - her grandmother, died before my grandmother was born and George - her grandfather, < 1 year after Fred died :'()
Also interested to know if you ended up finding out anything else about Thomas prior to the census in 1871?
Hoping you're still reading this! :)
Sue