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WWI Disability Code P43
Hello All
Can any one help? I have not long downloaded my grandfather’s war record. The date he left service was 7 1 1919. They have crossed out Discharge and wrote something over I can’t work out (have tried to upload an image, but will not work tonight). Anyhow.
Rank for pension Class V
Nature of Disability Code P 43
Debility ………………………… Attribute
Degree of Disablement 20%
It then goes on to with how much pension etc.
Can anyone tell me what this meant
Many thanks
Steven
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Hi Steve
Class V was for the rank of Private and equivalent. No one seems to know what the disability codes stand for. Men injured in WW1 were classed in terms of %age disability. There should also be a period stated, afterwhich his disability would be reaccessed. In 1914 a temporary disability pension would be paid for up to 18 months, for a man with less than 6 years service.
Can you say how much a day pension he was paid?
Ken
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Hello Ken
Thanks for interest, will try to upload image again today.
The period stated was from 3 9 19 and to be reviewed in 69 weeks. 28 12 1920
He was paid I think it reads 5/6 per week, five shillings and sixpence?
'Warrant and Article under which granted RW 18 + 19 Art (1)
Thanks Steven
Here goes trying to upload again.
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Worked - great
Here is his Debility
Link to Decipher Thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=381278.new#new
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Can someone report my earlier post to moderator I think I have broken copyright rules. So sorry here is portion of document in question. Have already done so, sorry for inconvenience. Steven.
Steven
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Can someone report my earlier post to moderator I think I have broken copyright rules. So sorry here is portion of document in question. Have already done so, sorry for inconvenience. Steven.
Steven
Don't be sorry mate! ;D We Mods are not fierce!
Military docs need a little more visibility than most due to the nature of them!
If they go over the top in amount, I'll let you know!
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Thanks Steven
RW is the "Royal Warrant for the Pay, Promotion, and Non-effective Pay of the Army", aka the Pay Warrant.
Does it say “..Weekly Rate .... 5/6 & Bonus to 2-9-19, then 8/? to 28-12-20”?
Ken
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Hello Ken
Thanks for interest you asked "Does it say “..Weekly Rate .... 5/6 & Bonus to 2-9-19, then 8/? to 28-12-20”?
I just blew it up in photoshop and I believe it says Bonus to 2 - 9-10, then 8/7, to 28-12-20.
Am impressed you could read that.
Have attached a larger section.
Thanks again
Steven
Just noticed at bottom is says 'Appeal Under Article 9'
Nature of Award, which I can't read - sorry
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Hi Steven
I believe it says "Nature of Award = Condl", ie conditional.
Ken
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Thanks Ken and everyone.
I now have a better understanding of what went on. He served in the battle of Ypres and seems to have gone over there pretty soon after being drafted. There seems to have been a telegraph while he was serving and later some correspondance about his medals. All the pages are hard to read, worse for someone unfamiliar with regiments etc. (smile).
Steven
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Thanks for help in the past with this one. I have just been sent the original of this document and I noticed on the 'Disability line' is the word AVRIL.
My mother's middle name is that and according to my sister my grandfather said he got the name off a bag of floor he saw in France during the war. I can see now it was another one of his stories. Would anyone know what this stands for?
I have googled it and only come up with other women called Avril.
Many Thanks
Steven :)
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If you look to the rightof Disability there are some brackets - Attrib - Aggrav - Non-Attrib
Against disability is "attrib" - ??? (rather than Avril)
Sandra
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Definitely Attrib not Avril:
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Oh heavens yes, I see now, he's been gone decades, but this piece of paper was sent to me by other family in a Christmas Card. But they must have kept it because it does look like Avril. The story about a bag of flour seemed rather odd. But he did have loads of them!
Thanks so much I can rest easy now, knowing how she got that middle name.
Season's greetings.
Steven :D
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Oh dear, Sorry all that bother, her middle name is Avlis!!!!!
Not to be confused with car Alvis.....................
Maybe his story was true!
Gee whizz not began Christmas merriment yet!
Steven :(
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If you look to the rightof Disability there are some brackets - Attrib - Aggrav - Non-Attrib
Against disability is "attrib" - ??? (rather than Avril)
Sandra
Just to clarify for anyone wondering what these abbreviations mean:
attrib - attributable to military service
aggrav - aggravated by military service (i.e. condition existed before joining up)
non-attrib - not attributable to war service
Philip
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Mothball,
In reply #3, you show a portion of the record which appears to read “Contusion Back” in handwriting.
A contusion is basically a bruise, so he may have been struck by a piece of shrapnel and incurred a very badly bruised back.
Regard,
JMB
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Thanks for the all the added info. I was lucky to get his war record online as his name was David Jones (but his middle name was Daniel which made it stand out) , it does vary quite a lot to what he told us. It reads like he spent time working at Woolwich too. He also had trouble getting his medal I think, which I didn't find after his death. These are fascinating documents, but at times very hard to transcribe to us civvies.
So thanks again for added info.
Steven