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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Orkney => Topic started by: Tanapopo on Thursday 28 May 09 12:43 BST (UK)
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??? I am confused why my mother wont tell me about my grandperent`s. She says they live in Orkney and the family name of my grand mother is Velzian. I was wondering if somebody can help me find my grandfather or if my mother has brothers and sisters
thank you
Tanapopo in japan
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Hello ??
Peggy could be short for Margaret
1901
Registration Number 685/1
St George
Edinburgh Morningside
Midlothian
15 Braidburn Terrace
with Elgin family
Margaret G Velzian age 20 born Kirkwall Orkney servant
Pam
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1891
Registration Number 30
Stromness Orkney
Dundas Street
William Velzian age 51 lab born Kirkwell Orkney
Isabella wife age 30 born Longhope Orkney Knitter
Marg Grace Velzian dau age 11 Kirkwall Orkney
1881
Registration Number 21
Kirkwell and St Ola
Orkney
Mill Street
William Velzian age 38 born Walls orkney Miller out of employment
Isabella age 21 wife born Walls Orkney
John son age 12 Deerness Orkney
Williamina dau age 14 Deerness
Catherine dau age 11 Deerness
Hannah dau age 8 Deerness
Isabella G dau age 1 born Kirkwell
Pam
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Hello
To get copies of the info that Pam has kindly provided :
Have a read of the link
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html
Regards, Steve :O)
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Further down your family history quest you might find a link to the following wills found on Scotlands People.
1. Velzian, Williamina 31/08/1898 or Johnston, sometime of Supper Syking, Sandwick, d 15/08/1894 at Upper Syking, intestate Confirmation Kirkwall (Orkney) Sheriff Court Inventories SC11/41/5
2 Velzian Williamina Johnston 31/08/1898 sometime of Upper Syking, Sandwick, Orkney, d. 15/05/1894 at Upper Syking, intestate Inventory Kirkwall (Orkney) Sheriff Court Wills SC11/38
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Hi and Welcome to Rootscaht, Tanapopo :)
You say who your grandmother was but don't mention who your grandfather was or give any approx ages. Was this your grandmother's maiden name or did she marrysomeone with that surname?
Following on from what Pam has found, and taking it as a maiden name, the Scotlands People site show 5 marriages of a person with that name Scotland in 1904-1931:
1904 in Holm and Palplay, Orkney
1920 in St Giles, Edinburgh
1921 in Kirkwall, Orkney
1929 in Dunfermline, Fife
1931 in Leith North, Edinburgh
Also, to find if your mother had any brothers or sisters, we'd need to know the approx date and name. However, it's Rootschat's policy to not mention names of living people on the public boards.
Best regards
Gadget
added - names removed in case the people are still alive
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Thank you everybody ;D. I asked my older brother if he can help me he said that she is still alive and has had many children But still would not tell me anything after ???. I only have herd of a few of my aunt and uncal s names. I can`t remember any more but my mum said lot`s of names so the woman has had many children. I will check the links now thank you GAdget, Steve and Pam
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Hi again
If she is still alive, we can't really do much more on on this public thread. However, if her birth name is as stated and in Orkney, there are two possible births showing on the Scotlands People site in 1913 and 1929 -
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
None of the other names that you mentioned are listed in Orkney.
You should really try to obtain your mother's birth certificate and work back from that. I assume you know her approximate age/place of birth.
Gadget
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My mum was born on the black isle but she was later adopted. But the biological mother name is known and she was in orkeny. ??? thanks you for helping me again Gadget.
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Because of the involvement of living people's names, I've sent you a personal message. I might have found a possible grandmother, b. Stromness, Orkney.
Gadget
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Information on tracing living relatives here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,261434.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,142443.0.html
Gadget :)
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Hi Tanapopo,
Welcome to Rootschat. I hope you get help with your search.
To protect living people who have not given their permission to be identified on a public website please do not list names of people who maybe alive now.
Thanks and best of luck,
Pam
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Don't know if this will be of any use to you but I've an Ann Velzian in my family tree.
She was born around 1840 (don't have a specific date) in Orkney.
She married Robert Bichan Kirkness on the 16th of May 1865 in Burray, Orkney.
They had 6 children in all;
William - bn 1865 in Firth & Stenness, Orkney
James - bn 1867 in Deerness, Orkney (died aged 4 weeks)
Jesse Jane - bn 20th June 1868 in Deerness, Orkney
Margaret Ann - bn 10th April 1871 in Sanday, Orkney
Peter - bn 26th June 1874 in Corstorphine, Edinburgh
Robert - bn about 1879 in Leith
Having said all that the cursiter records only show 1 Ann (bn 1814) and her last name is Velzeen!
The nearest I can get to the birth-date of my relative is the 12th June 1840, about the right time, but her name is Margaret!
Well maybe this info will help you a wee bit.
Regards,
Martyn
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Hi Tanapopo
I have just registered. My maiden name is Velzian and I live in Orkney. I have just been out at the Sandwick Graveyard looking at some of my ancestors names and then came home to do a search and saw this thread. There are not many Velzians left in Orkney, I have cousins in England and there are Velzians in Edinburgh. I would assume we are related as there are very few Velzians left.
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Hi to MartW
On 1841 census for burray and s ronaldsay at windwick:
James Velzian miller 50 b ork
Euphemia Velzian 50 b ork
Euphemia 20 b ork
Grace 14 straw plaiter
Juliana 12 straw plaiter
Anne 10
Susan 2
a great site is www.southronaldsay.net for ancestors in that area
akc
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Hi, I have just joined this site and found the Velzian discussion. My g, grandfather gave his mother as Eliza Velzian and father John Linklater on his marriage certificate. I have pieced together the Velzian side and have an Ann Velzian daughter of William Velzian and Margaret Cantley. Ann was born in 1943. Any connection? My g,g,grandfather was registered as liiegitimate so his parents never married and Eliza went on to marry Robert Eunson in 1862.
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Wendy,
I just signed up & saw your message!
Not sure what to do yet?
I am related to Linklater & Velzian
James Velzian migrated to New Zealand c 1876
Helen
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Helen, It's Wendy
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My gg=grandmother was Mary Velzian married to john kirkness( father William Velzian Mother Margaret Cantley) - Elizabeth Velzian sister. Can I help?
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My gg=grandmother was Mary Velzian married to john kirkness( father William Velzian Mother Margaret Cantley) - Elizabeth Velzian sister. Can I help?
Thanks so much for your reply. Actually I think I photographed your g,g,grandmother's grave last year when I was in Orkney. Did that Elizabeth Velzian havetwo little boys before she married Robert Eunson? Or have I got the wrong person? I look forward to your reply.
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Yes she had two children before she married - her mother also had children after her husband died - no re-marraige! Times must have been hard, no work for widows!
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Wow! Then after years of searching, I have finally found ( for sure), my g,g grandmother. On my g,grandfather's marriage certificate, it has that John Linklater is his father and Eliza Velzian (spelt Vellyan) is his mother. I wonder why Eliza and John didn't marry? Did he go to Canada? Are you related to these Velzians? Any more information you have would be great.
Thanks for making my day!!
Wendy in NZ
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my great,great, great, great, great grandpa Magnus Moar married Margaret Velzian in 1735... Birsay, Orney
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I'm also very interested in the Velzian/Cantley links. The other son Elizabeth Velzian had before marriage was Robert GW Allan - who went to Australia then begun a line of Allan's in New Zealand.