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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cavan => Topic started by: BRETA on Saturday 11 July 09 10:15 BST (UK)
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Love to discover date of birth and family of ROBERT HUGGINS born March 1841? 18 Miles from Belfast, County Tyrone. Don`t know if 18 miles is in Tyrone? Griffith Lodge.
Roberts parents were BLEAKLEY/ BLAKELEY BERRY HUGGINS & ANN PRINGE.
Robert as a young child was sent to the West Indies for health reason, where he grew to adulthood and owned Sugar Plantations, but never forgave his parents for the childhood separation. Travelling the world he met his futher wife EMILY ALICE DAVIS ( 1851-1873) in South AFRICA, returning to England were they were married 12 JULY 1883 at St Michaels, Stockwell, Co Surry, London.
Robert (42)and Emily immigrated to Australia where their 5 children were born. Considering Robert wouldn`t allow any contact with his family it`s strange that he called his eldest son BLEAKLEY BERRY HUGGINS born 1883 AUST.
How does all this tie up with KILLASHANDRA. The HUGGINS, BLEAKLEYS & GRIFFITH families were all related and a lot of Irish from County Cavan worked on the plantations in the West Indies including Robert`s brother JOHN HUGGINS who married 2 Nov 1878, MARY ANN BLEAKLEY born 21-2-1858 Co Cavan( parents WILLIAM BLEAKLEY (1822-1879 & RACHAEL ARNOLD died 1881, C. Cavan).
Roberts (Died 24 May 1900 Aust) wife wrote 19 Apr 1939.
''Mrs WIGZELL living the Spit, home broken up, son left GRIFFITH family, related to Huggins through the grandmothers being sisters, Griffith Lodge being the home of the Huggins`s''
WILLIAM BLEAKLEY( Born 7 Jan 1773, 1841 census , died 27 Sept 1850) marr 1817 ISABELLA HUGGINS ( Died 19 April 1862 85 Yrs) Their daug JANE marr THOMAS GRIFFITH, 1842 KILLASHANDRA. Don`t know how that ties up with the grandmothers being sister because I haven`t gone back far enough with the Huggins family.
What I`m leading up to, is the where abouts of GRIFFITH LODGE as it`s mentioned as the home of the HUGGINS family.
Received an email from Alison Causton in 2005 where she gave a reference from the Public Records Office of Northern Island in Belfast
''D.980/20/2: NOV 1851; Blakeley HUGGINS, Kildallen, Co Cavan & David GRIFFITH, Lodge, Co Cavan; Copy Conveyance, Mulmagolan, Co. Cavan."
In Griffith Valuations 1848-1864 BLAKELEY HUGGINS has Townland at Boley and Killyran, Parish of Templeport, Co Cavan.
DOROTHEA GRIFFITH wife of DAVID and Thomas Griffith give their address as GRIFFITH LODGE, owning 103/109 acres, GENUKI 1876 Land Owners Cavan.
Think these are names of the children of Blakeley Berry HUGGINS & ANN PRINGLE?
ROBERT born March 1841 Marr EMILY ALICE DAVIS 12 JULY 1883.
JOHN West Indies Planter. marr MARY ANN BLEAKLEY 2 nOV 1878
WILLIAM
BLEAKLEY
JANE ANN marr ARMSTRONG moved to America.
SARAH single died France.
MARGARET
AMELIA
Robert Huggins was my husbands great grandfather.
Thank you for taking the time to read this. Hope someone can help?
Sue.
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Sounds like an interesting family to research. I see that you've other posts on different websites so I won't post the links here but the following might be of interest keeping in mind the West Indies connection-
Letters of Administration (with the Will annexed) of the personal estate of James Huggins late of Derricantane in the County of Tyrone Gentleman deceased who died 28 August 1860 at Derricantane aforesaid were granted at Armagh to William Huggins of Belvidere Cottage (Lisburn) in the County of Down Gentleman one of the Joint Universal Devizees. Effects under £20. date of grant 24/11/1860.
The Will (with one Codicil) of William Huggins formerly of Koorsund Indigo Factory near Allahabad in the East Indies and late of Belvidere Cottage Ballyaughlis County Down Esquire deceased who died 10 March 1868 at Belvidere Cottage aforesaid was proved at Belfast by the oaths of John Huggins Marshall (of Glenkeen County Tyrone Gentleman) Arthur Seymour (of Coventry County Warwick England Solicitor) and James Hairstens M'Gowan (of Dumfries Scotland Solicitor) the Executors. (Deceased died domiciled in Ireland.) Effects in Great Britain and Ireland under £18,000- Date of grant 01/05/1868
See www.proni.gov.uk
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Griffith's Lodge mentioned-
Cavan Weekly News May 24, 1878 DEATH. May 9, at the Fever Hospital, Cavan, of typhoid fever, Johnny GRIFFITH, for many years the faithful servant at Griffith’s Lodge, Milltown; deeply and deservedly regretted.
www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/1878/MAY.html
Fergusons of Cavan document mentions Griffiths of Griffith Lodge, Pringle, etc. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~colin/FergusonsOfIreland/Cavan/Deeds/No251.htm
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Thank you for that info which I did check out and proves that their definitely was a GRIFFITH LODGE in KILLASHANDRA and I know that the Huggins`s are connected to the BLEAKLEY`S & BERRY families because the names have been carried down the HUGGINS line.
ISABELLA HUGGINS ( died 19 April 1862) marr 1817 WILLIAM BLEAKLEY ( 1773-1850). Williams parents were WILLIAM BLEAKLY & JANE BERRY marr 1769, KILMORE, but I think there must be other connections with BLEAKLEY/ BLAKELEY BERRY HUGGINS for the name to be carried down to the grandson.
I have an original old letter to Robert HUGGINS( 1841-1900) from his cousin ANDREW BLEAKLEY ( Born 2 Aug 1838 Killashandra, parents ANDREW BLEAKLEY & MARGARET NOLAN-died 19 Jan 1899, Upper Caboolture, QLD Aust)
ANDREW ( school teacher) arrived in Australia in 1860, with his wife ELIZABETH nee MONTGOMERY.
ROBERT HUGGINS had previously visited Andrew in Aust. and was intending to move there after his recent marriage in England in 1883 To EMILY ALICE DAVIS.
There are so many Bleakleys in Killashandra and I`ve collected alot of info trying to make connections.
The name HUGGINS being English or Scottish and they being tenants and landowners, I can only think they came to Ireland during the Resettlement. The Huggins` being on the orange side in Ireland then marrying into the Mathews family in Aust. and the green side.
All this beating around the bush and I still haven`t hit pay dirt and discovered more about ROBERT HUGGINS parents and his brothers and sisters. Maybe there is someone out their researching this family and it will start bells ringing?
Thank you for your time,
Sue.
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With respect to the two citations of wills from the PRONI web site: James Huggins of Derrycantone, co. Tyrone, and William Huggins, of Ballyaghlis, co. Down, were brothers--both were born at Glenarb townland, parish of Aghaloo, in the county of Tyrone. I have done extensive research of this family line ... their domiciles were primarily in the co. Tyrone, at Glenarb townland and in the towns of Caledon, Dungannon and Strabane. Have not found a link between the county Tyrone family and the families bearing the Huggins surname in counties Antrim, Cavan, Cork, Monaghan, Meath, Westmeath, etc.
Alison Kilpatrick
Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Thank you Alison for your reply.
It all helps.
The Huggins family are related to the Griffith family in Longford and with such large families and Ireland being a small country, if your research goes back far enough with the Huggins name, they must all be related.
The records around Robert Huggins birth in 1841 and cousin Andrew Bleakley , born 1838, seem to have been distroyed by fire so maybe I will never beable to prove ROBERT`s birth or his parent`s marriage as with his cousin, Andrew ?
I have managed to make a little progress with the Huggins family from a descendant of Andrew Bleakleys who had some paid reseach done in Ireland.
*BLEAKLEY BERRY HUGGINS ( dec`d before his son Blakeley`s marriage in 1855) married ANN PRINGE and their were 8 or 9 children to my knowledge.
We believe *Bleakley Berry`s parents were ANDREW HUGGINS and MARGARET BLAKLEY married 1774.
We also discovered *BLEAKLEY & ANN`s son BLAKELEY HUGGINS ( born 1832? 23 years in 1855) married 25 Oct 1855, Templeport, Co Cavan, LILLY GOODFELLOW ( 18 yrs 1855, father HENRY).
*BLEAKLEY & ANN`s daughter JANE ANNE HUGGINS ( born 1836? 18 years 1854) married 27 July 1854, Templeport, Co Cavan, JAMES ARMSTRONG ( 33 YRS IN 1854, father ARCHIBALD ARMSTRONG ). Which is my American connection.
Thankyou for taking the time to read this.
Sue.
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Sue/Readers
I'm like a lot of other people looking for information regarding the "Bleakley Family" especially Andrew Bleakley & Margaret Nolan as you have already mentioned. I would love to have a copy of the letter you have that Andrew wrote to Robert Huggins?
I'm keen to find out what ever happened to:-
Andrew's parents after he came to Australia in 1860? and anything else to do with the parents, brothers?, sisters?, their parents? etc.
Were there any other brothers or sisters of Andrew Bleakley and where did they end up? eg. Did they stay in Ireland or some where else in the world?
Also I'm led to believe that there were cousins that visited and stayed with Andrew Bleakley in Australia at Upper Caboolture where one of them is believed to have had an accident and died? I haven't found a grave site but I have been looking for a Bleakley? After the accident the other person is believed to have gone back to Ireland?
I would like to have a Bleakley contact/contacts in Killashandra, Co Cavan+, to communicate with?
I hope some one can help with these requests? - Sue you appear to have quite a deal of information on the Bleakley's I would appreciate it if you can help?
Jbleakley62.
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Merry Christmas! Your prayers have been answered.
My good friend Nelle is a decendant of Andrew Bleakley and writing a book about Bleakleys for their reunion next September in Queensland. So in contact with branches of Bleakleys world wide. Nelle will be delight inbetween the Christmas family cheer, to receive your email, which I will forward on directly.
It`s Christmas eve and one hundred and one things to do, so will get back to you later.
God bless you,
Sue.
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Dear jbleakley,
If your a descendant of Andrew Bleakley, mostlikely you live in Australia?
Unforunately we don`t know of any descendants in Killashandra, Co Cavan. There are only a few Bleakleys in the Irish Phone book. They mostly emigrated all over the world.
We are very happy to share our research.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Sue.
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Sue,
Thanks for replying to my requests but someone must know of Margaret Bleakley (nee Nolan) Andrew's Mother?
I stumbled onto a person when looking at B.D.M on an Irish History Site on the week end, with the name of Margaret Blakley who died 2/2/1875 Ballyshiel Co. Down Parish/District of Banbridge. She was 57 years when she died which would make her around about the right age?
I'm wondering if you have come across her and if so what's your thoughts?
I await your reply?
Jbleakley62.
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Dear J Bleakley,
I did have a look at the BLAKLEY family of Ballyshiel, Co Down. Ros. Davies has a very good site, Surnames of Co Down; Blakely, Bleakley, Blackley and variants on freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestory;com/ .
There is a possibility, but I dont think so.
We have a more likely date with a Margaret Bleakley who died on the 17th May 1902, age 88, Portlongfield. Born about 1814 so could be the wife of Andrew, (Margaret Nolan).
Andrew Bleakley was born about 1818 and was 23 in 1841 Census. Andrew married Margaret Nolan and their son Andrew Bleakley was born on the 2nd August 1838, Killeshandra, Co Cavan, Ireland, according to church records that are now unavailable, just mushy paper according to Priest, which has been sent to the records office.
Andrew`s father ( 1818-1842) died 10th April 1842, age 25 yrs. Killeshandra. We don`t have the death certificate so can only wonder what caused his untimely death at such a young age. Margaret would have mostlikely remarried so who knows what her surname was at time of death. For that matter, who brought up little Andrew.
Andrew Bleakley married 30th March, 1858, Co Cavan, Elizabeth Montgomery and he died 19th January 1899, Upper Caboolture. QLD, Australia.
Could you find out more info about the cousins who visited the Bleakleys in QLD from Ireland. There were seven families of Bleakleys in Killeshandra for the 1841 census, with large families who intermarried etc. So lots of cousins with different surnames including Huggins.
Robert Huggins sister married a James Armstrong in Killeshandra, with their children they visited Australia then decided to live in America. Along the way a couple of young children died but I don`t know all the details.
The name Bleakley is nearly as common as Smith in America. Different branches of the Bleakley family also settled in Australia and New Zealand for Killeshandra and we are still trying to discover how they fit into the family tree.
Thankyou for your help.
Would be very interested to hear any Bleakley stories or memories.
Sue.
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You may wish to look at this site:
http://austcemindex.com/inscription.php?id=6717961
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Census for 1901 shows
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0e9v/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0e9w/
My Bleakleys were in Monaghan... there was Swan & Bleakley, Haberdashery, Monaghan Town, Rev John Bleakley in 1st Monaghan Pres. Church, another was Roads Inspector in Co. Council but the families they married into lived on the borders with Cavan and Fermanagh..there are 3 g/stones in Clogh C Of I, Co Fermanagh for a Hugh, Robert and Christopher but if they are related or not it doesn't say! All born in 1800's...
Haven't done much work on the name but you might get famly units from census stuff!
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Dear Dave,
Thank you for your interesting email about the Bleakleys. We realised that to go back further with our research we would have to look at other neighbouring counties for our roots. With such large families, there were so many intermarriages, that ever person seems to be related on one branch or other of the family tree. I noticesd we also have Bothwell, Breakey and Berry in common.
Nelle, who has written her Bleakley family history, has gone back further with her research would like to make contact with you.
I don`t remember how to send this email through the private section of RootsChat and would like to give you Nelle`s email address, so will leave it to the site to put in the appropriate place.
Gillian, an Aussie also, is visiting Ireland at present doing research into the Bleakleys in Killeshandra, Co Cavan.
God bless,
Breta.
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Yes, if you do an extended tree showing marriages of all siblings and same over a few generations then you get so many cross connections between all the various surnames that everyone seems to be related to each other BUT sometimes one finds the same surnames marrying in other counties and even after emigrating. Units of each family seem to emigrate to same places in US or Oz etc that pattern appear. Sometimes even townlands in US named after where they lived in Ireland.. "Monaghan township" etc.
The variations in spelling of Bleaky/Bleakley don't help!
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I think Dorothea / Dora Griffith, wife of David shown in Griffith Valuation 1848-64 for Co Cavan is the long lost sister of Isabella Huggins of Griffith Lodge, Artonagh, Milltown, Parish of Drumlane, said to be the home of the Huggins family.
All the info I have on David & Dora Griffith comes from the old Cavan Newspapers on the net.
David Griffith, died July 1854, they had two sons; Edmond, died 1856, no issue. John`s wife had a daughter 14 FEB 1877 at Tomkinroad House, Belturbet.
I can`t help but think that the other Griffith names on the Griffith Valuation in that area are related to each other as well as inter married to the Huggins and Bleakley families.
If you go by gut feelings it seems right because Robert & Emily Huggins (1841-1900) called his daughter Dorothy ( aunty Dora ) and his other daughter Florence Larsen called her only daughter Dorothy Larsen.
Emily Huggins and daughter Flo, were friend with the descendants of Isabella Huggins and Wigzell`s in Sydney, Aust., who claimed to have descended from two sisters, grandmothers (?) who lived at Griffith Lodge, Ireland, home of the Huggins family.
Need to find out more about the Griffith family in Cavan and a marriage between Dorothea Huggins and David Griffith.
God bless,
Sue.
Robert`s father Blakeley Huggins, died before his sons marriage in 1855 and Dora Griffith`s husband David died in 1854, so about right age frame for Blakeley Huggins and Dora Griffith to be brother and sister.
There is also the conveyance in 1851 between Blakeley Huggins, Kildallen Co Cavan and David Griffith, Lodge, Co Cavan.
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Hello Breta,
Seeing mention of Wigzell I thought the following may be of interest in hope that it might bring out more information about my Co. Cavan connections. I am a decendent of Simon Griffith and Rachel Matchett.
William Henry Wigzell: BC indicates he was born on 26 Feb 1857 but baptismal records from St Michaels, Christchurch suggest he was born on 26 Jan 1857 and baptised on 5 May 1857.
William sailed from NZ presumably with his two brothers in the 1880's. He met & married Anne Eliza Griffith who had arrived in the colony with her parents (Thomas Griffith and Jane Bleakley) and siblings aboard the "Spitfire" in 1863.
His marriage was conducted by Rev. Joseph Barnier who is a relative on the Crawford or maternal side of my family. The witnesses were David & Ann Kennedy. Unfortunately it is not possible to decipher William's occupation at the time.
William was a hairdresser who had a shop in William St. (Kings Cross), Sydney. William invested his money into real estate including 110, 126, 154 &177 Victoria At. Darlinghurst; 11, 13, 15 & 17 Darley St. Darlinghurst; 151 Queen St. Woollahra; 36 Maclaren St, North Sydney; 4 Battle Boulevarde, Seaforth as well as the William St property.
The premises in William St had 8 rooms and 4 were rented out to "May Valet - entrance in Kirketon Rd.; a bootmaker; James McGregor an upholster & George Adams a cake expert.
A family story yet to be researched is that William was offered good money to sell his William St property but refused and many articles were written about him in the newspapers of the time. The shop was at the top of William St. on the south side.
The book "Faces of the Street - William St., Sydney 1916" by Max Kelly makes reference to William and his shop.
Both William and Annie are buried in the same grave at Waverley.
Hope you find this useful
Les
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Hullo my name is Peter (upton) Davis & I have looked at the George Bleakley household, house 13 Portlingfield Killashandra in the 1841 census & think that the Elizabeth Davis 10 yo grand daughter from Derrylane is probably my relative (daughter of Henry Davis). i am unaware though who was her grandmother possibly Elizabeth Bleakley.
Anyone have any ideas?
peter
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I sent you a personal message with my email address so hope you received it.
George Bleakley is from the New Zealand branch of Bleakley / Bothwell family from Co Cavan.
1841 Census; George Bleakley 62 Years ( b. 1779?), farmer married 1801, wife Elizabeth, age 60. Son, William Bleakley, age 19, single. Elizabeth Davis, age 10, granddaughter. Marry (?) Storey, age 70, Sister-inlaw, widow, married 179(0?). Servant Elizabeth Parker, age 21. Robert Bleakley, son ( b. 1817)? Clerk in Sth. America.
Other family names in common, Moxham-Griffith, William Bleakley married 1838 Margaret McGee, Berry family.
Please email me.
Sue.