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Alexander Moore and William Moore were Flax Growers in 1796 at Drumachose, Limavady
Does Anyone have genealogical data on them and their descendants? Can they connect to below Samuel Moore?
My G G G grandparents Samuel & Jane Moore lived at Newtown, Limavady, Samuel still farmed there in 1858.
I'd like to get further info on their family and ancestors. Known Children:
1. Thomas Moore bp 11 Nov 1824
Irish Green, Newtown Limavady Drumachose Derry
Died in 1888 in Darraweit Guim, Victoria, Australia
2. Andrew Moore b 1833
Irish Green, Newtown limavady Drumachose Derry
3. Anne Jane Moore b. circa 1835 Limavady, Northern Ireland. Died 1920 Australia
married 1st Albert Moore died bef 1865, two children Sarah Moore and Albert (he lived in Garvagh)
married 2nd John Alexander Norris 3 Jul 1865 Ballayghran, Northern Ireland (my G G grandparents)
4. Samuel Moore b. ca 1836 Limavady, Northern Ireland d. 24 May 1891 Darraweit Guim, Victoria, Australia
Married Isabella Murray
5. Robert Moore b. ca 1838 Limavady, Northern Ireland d.1 Feb 1920 Essendon, Victoria, Australia
Married Margaret ?
6. David Moore b 1846
Irish Green, Newtown Limavady Drumachose Derry
7. William Glendye Moore b 1848
Irish Green, Newtown Limavady Drumachose Derry
Moved to Australia
Probably there were other children of Samuel and Jane. I'd like to know more if anyone can add.
Anne Jane Moore and John A Norris held a farm in Colraine called Colebreene before they came to Australia about 1880
Any hep appreciated on extending the Moore of Drumachose family tree in Ireland
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Can't help with the Limavady connections but do have a bit about Albert Moore, Garvagh.
17 Aug.1881, First Garvagh Presbyterian Church, Albert Moore, 20, farmer, Windy-Hall Ballyrashane, son of John Moore, farmer, to Martha A. Linton, spinster, Crosshill, daughter of Robert Linton, farmer. Witnesses: William Linton, Lizzie Moore.
Baptisms- First Garvagh Presbyterian Church-
Jane Anna- Albert Moore- Martha- Garvagh- bapt. June 1884
Mary Eliza Gage- Albert Moore- Martha- Garvagh- bapt. 6 Oct.1889
Martha Alberta- Albert Moore- Martha- Garvagh- bapt. 25 June 1893
1911 census-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002809647/
First Garvagh Presbyterian Old Churchyard: In loving memory of my dear husband Albert Moore, who died 4th July, 1927, aged 6 years. And our dear son John C. Moore who died 14th May 1935 aged 53 years. Erected by his wife Martha A. Moore, who died 22nd October 1943 Aged 89 years.
Do you want more details on this family?
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Hi thanks for the info on Albert Moore which matches what I have. Also read somewhere he may have owned a hotel? I would be interested in any further info if you have it as there maybe a descendant out there and that person may have info on Anne Jane Moore, Albert's mother and my G G grandmother. Thanks for looking for the info. Hopefully someone else will have some clues on the other Moore's.
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Drumachose [Christchurch, Limavady] Church of Ireland
register of christenings:
James Moore 29 Oct 1822 son of Samuel and Jane Moore
Thomas Moore 11 Nov 1824 son of Samuel and Jane Moore
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Wow, that is great you've found another son James Moore bp in 1822, many thanks. If only somewhere there was Jane's maiden name listed. Any clues on Samuel Moore's birth?
I saw a marriage in 1819 Samuel Moore to Jane Black but this Samuel was from a different area.
Any mention of baptisms of further children?
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Mother's maiden name was not given.
I got the information from the IGI which contains
a transcript of the Christchurch records [secondary source].
There are errors of course with every transcript.
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Hi thanks for the info on Albert Moore which matches what I have. Also read somewhere he may have owned a hotel? I would be interested in any further info if you have it as there maybe a descendant out there and that person may have info on Anne Jane Moore, Albert's mother and my G G grandmother. Thanks for looking for the info. Hopefully someone else will have some clues on the other Moore's.
Albert Moore owned a hotel in Garvagh (listed as Hotel Proprietor in 1911 census)- established Imperial Hotel in 1887- hotel closed at present but bar is still open. Here's a link to photo- www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1373268
Albert Moore also owned a jaunting car which took peaople back and forth to Garvagh station, etc. He was the man who found the hammer used in the Berryman murder in 1906 (had brought police investigating the crime to the scene outside Garvagh and while waiting about found murder weapon buried in the midden).
Have copy of old photo of hotel - if you want copy send me your email address by PM and I'll try to scan it. Also have a fairly good picture of Albert Moore.
Don't know of any descendants in Garvagh area but can enquire locally.
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I wonder does this indicate there are going to be descendants of James and Thomas Moore in NZ?
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Drumachose [Christchurch, Limavady] Church of Ireland
register of christenings:
James Moore 29 Oct 1822 son of Samuel and Jane Moore
Thomas Moore 11 Nov 1824 son of Samuel and Jane Moore
Christ Church is the name of the church (Church of Ireland) in Limavady.
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I am trying to resolve the ancestry of my grandmother, Frances St Barbe Moore. She was known as Peggy. I believe she may fall under your family tree.
I have very little knowledge about her.
She was born in Ireland (not very helpful: I don't even know whether North or South!), and must have emigrated with her parents to Australia. All I have established is that, during the first world war, she became a nurse and in August 1917, she embarked on a warship with other nurses, and presumably went to Egypt where my grandfather met her in December.
According to the embarkation records, her mother was Mrs F Moore, "Granville", McArron Parade, Essendon, Victoria. As no mention is made of a father, I presume he was already dead, which seems to rule out Robert, also from Essendon. But could she be the daughter of Samuel? Darraweit Guim appears to be less than 40 miles from Essendon.
Another possible clue is that Robert's wife was Margaret and my grandmother's nickname was Peggy, which I believe is an abbreviation of Margaret.
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Hi there - my great grandfather William Henry Moore is buried in Christchurch Drumachose Limavaday - bizarrely enough was my brick wall until I googled his name one day and came across this site
http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/yourplaceandmine/londonderry/A834257.shtml
Photos of his grave stone on the final page of the article.
My grandmother was his daughter Annie Moore.
Jill
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Hullo,
I wonder if this enquiry will throw up any lucky information regarding Samuel Moore and his wife Jane (neé Black) of Limavardy. Sumuel was born in 1789 and died 1858. He apparently had 10 sons and at least one daughter, some of whom emigrated to Australia. One of the sons was my great grandfather, William Glendye Moore. The attached memorial card is of David Moore (or Davit, as he seems to have been called), William Glendye's younger brother. (William died in 1882, leaving his wife, Charlotte - my great grandmother - with 5 children.) SORRY - THE IMAGE COULDN'T BE ATTACHED.
I've been searching for information about the Moore family for a while now and would love to know if there are any descendants still living in Limavady or round-about.
When Samuel Moore died in 1858, he left some land. There is is record - 'Griffith Land Valuation Limavady relating to Irish Green, Newtown, Limavady, Drumachose, Derry.
This is just a stab in the dark - but perhaps the recipient of this message might know something and be kind enough to let me know.
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See the message I sent earlier. I am William Glendye Moore's great-grand-daughter. William went to Australia in the 1860s - as did several of his brothers (and, I believe, a sister, Anne). I've just started doing some research about the Moores and it's exciting to see that others are also doing so. I've only just discovered this website. It hope we'll be able to exchange information and build up a pictures of the family. I am part of the Australian connection, though I'm now living in London. Do get in touch! Best wishes.
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Hi,
I have a record of the marriage of Samuel Moore to Jane Black on 5 Jun 1819 in Bovevagh Presbyterian Church, District of Limavady. The church is about 6 miles south of the town of Limavady on the road, known as Ballyquin Road, to the town of Dungiven.
Regards
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Thanks very much for that.
I wonder if anybody knows anything about Jane Black's family?
I'd like to get hold of a copy the marriage certificate you refer to. Perhaps you could give me details as to where I should apply.
Best, Jan
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The details on the marriage is from the church record- civil registration didn't start until 1845.
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Jan,
Looking at some of the other postings there is mention of Irishgreen Street in Limavady(as it is now called) and also mention of Ardinarive. Ardinarive is a townland (a small administrative area) inthe parish of Bovevagh. The Griffiths Valuation of 1858 (part of an assessment of all property in Ireland) shows a Samuel Moore and a Rebecca Black as tenants in this townland.
Regards
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Hi from Canberra.
I have just read your post.
If you are interested in Frances Moore who is the daughter of Mrs. F. Moore who is mentioned in an earlier post then there is a lot about her in the Australian National Archives.
You should be able to do a search as a guest but if you can't access it as a guest let me know and I will see what I can do.
Good luck.
Glenys
Princess 41.
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Hello folks,
i have a Moore in my Shannon research from the Limavady area that may come into this conversation.
Mary Moore born circa 1803 married pre 1840 to William Shannon born circa 1795 of Derrybeg.
It was Williams second marriage.
Jack Gee
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Hi, I am William Glendye Moore's great, great grandson, through his son (my great grandfather) William John Robert Moore, my grandmother Eileen May Moore and father Patrick John Wright. I would love to hear from you as to where you extend the family tree after William Glendye? I would be happy to share further information as well.
Cheers
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Hello Boofa,
the Moore families of Northern Ireland are fairly thick on the ground and as much detail that can be isolated to identify the the relative persons. My Moore researcher suggests that your William Glendye Moore could have a sister Jane and/or Mary and a cousin William Alexander Moore. If this fits we maybe able to expand our Moore info.
cheers
Jack of Longwood, Vic
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Hi Jack to help isolate them I have this to add. The address of Samuel Moore upon marriage was Altahullion (now Drum), which is Bovevagh parish near Dungiven. This is 7 or 8 miles from Limavady (Drumachose). It seems unlikely that our Moores were from Limavady as Samuel gave his address as Bovevagh and married in Bovevagh Presbyterian Church. Jane Black gave her address as Ballyness which is Dungiven. So you would need to search the records for the Bovevagh and Dungiven areas for the origins of our Moore family.
Benjamin Moore who was in the 1841 census died about 1862. The Griffiths Revision Books show that his farm passed to David Moore in that year. However there was another Benjamin Moore who married Margaret Young on 24 Dec 1888 in Bovevagh Church of Ireland
Married 1819 Bovevagh Presbterian Church
Sameul Moore, Altahullion to Jane dau of Robert Black, Ballyness.
Baptism 1822 - James son of Sam'l & Jane Moor, Carryclare, T. Finlagan 29th Oct 1822
Baptism 1824 - Thos son of Sam'l & Jane Moore, Carryreagh, T. Finlagan 11 Nov 1824
Baptism 1824 - Wm son of Jno & Mary Moore, Ballymore[?], T. Finlagan 20th April 1824
The Jno (John Moore) above likely related to Samuel.
One Margaret Moore died in 1872 with the address of Altahullion Drum, her testament says she has a sister named Elizabeth Moore and her mother is Elizabeth Moore assumably both still alive in 1872. Not sure how they connect to Samuel but assuming Altahullion is a small farmland then likely they are somehow related. Some death certificates maybe found for them but I have not had the time to look. There were several Moore's farming in 1858 including a Samuel & Thomas Moore both at Drumachose, don't know if they relate but again death certificates might be available. If anyone can look these Moore's up for further info that would be great.
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MOORE SAMUEL 1858 Land & estates Bovevagh, Londonderry (Derry), Ireland
Not sure if he is the one that married in 1819 or a son. If it is the one that married Jane Black then I wonder if he died once Irish death certificates started.
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The Samuel Moore living at Bovevagh in 1858 rented a house & garden, as mentioned earlier in this post he lived two doors down from a Rebecca Black. Was she related to Jane Black? I can't seem to find any death records.
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I haven't read back through all the posts on this thread so apologies if this has already been mentioned.
Letters of Administration (with the Will annexed) of the personal estate of Samuel Moore late of Carryclare in the County of Londonderry Farmer deceased who died 20 February 1860 at same place were granted at Londonderry to Thomas Moore of Carryclare aforesaid Farmer the Son one of the next of kin and a Devisee. Will mentions wife Jane, daughter Sarah, 3 sons Thomas William and Daniel, 1 shilling each to eldest son John Moore son Samuel Moore and son Robert Moore, 1 shilling to married daughter Ann Jane Moore. Will not dated so perhaps the reason estate (£33.10.0) was administered rather than probated.
http://applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar/WillsSearch.aspx
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Hi,
I think that Carryclare should read Carrowclare which is about 3 miles to the NW of Limavady and close to the railway line between Londonderry and Coleraine.
Regards
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If the Samuel Moore in 1858 had a place at Bovevagh is he likely to be the same man dying in 1860 at Carrowclare three miles away? One things for sure is that our Samuel did have a son named Thomas and the one dying in 1860 has a son named Thomas. Same Samuel? Also if the reference is letters of administration I assume there are more pages somewhere? Where would we get the letters from? Proni? Whats the likelyhood of a surviving grave for Samuel Moore?
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The original paperwork has not survived so all you will get is the extract from the index (which I posted) and the wording from the Will Book (see PRONI- link given) to view actual wording.
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Proni has the will on line for Samuel Moore late of Carryclare died 20th Feb 1860 mentions his wifes name is Jane and he has a daughter named Sarah. He then mentions three sons. One is Thomas, then William and Daniel Moore. Then mentions another son named Samuel Moore. And a further son named Robert Moore. And absolute proof its the correct one he named his married daughter Anne Jane Moore this was my g g grandmother. His signed the will as X. So we now know that Samuel Moore died in 1860. Is there a grave?
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Proni has the will on line for Samuel Moore late of Carryclare died 20th Feb 1860 mentions his wifes name is Jane and he has a daughter named Sarah. He then mentions three sons. One is Thomas, then William and Daniel Moore. Then mentions another son named Samuel Moore. And a further son named Robert Moore. And absolute proof its the correct one he named his married daughter Anne Jane Moore this was my g g grandmother. His signed the will as X. So we now know that Samuel Moore died in 1860.
That is the information I already posted.
Is there a grave?
I think you are wanting to know if there is a gravestone? There may or may not have been a stone erected for the family but you'd need to check local graveyards to see if anything does exist.
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Has this been mentioned yet?
Old Age Pension Claims-
"MOORE James John MOORE Mary Carrowclare Tamlaght Finlagan Kennaght Londonderry 1851 Parents married 183?, James 3yrs."
"SHERRARD Sarah John MOORE Mary Carrowclare Tamlaght Finlagan Kennaght Londonderry 1851 Parents married 183?, Sarah 14yrs."
? www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Aghanloo/Drumalief/1523087
1911- with brothers David & James:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Myroe/Carrowclare/594548
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If you google search Moore & Carrowclare there appears to also be a family of Solomon Moore born 1762 living at Carrowclare, and several other possible names come up on google. All related? aghadowey where did you find Old Age Pension Claims- "MOORE James John MOORE Mary Carrowclare Tamlaght Finlagan Kennaght Londonderry 1851 Parents married 183?, James 3yrs." Any further info welcomed. 11pm here so will check back tomorrow if there have been any more discoveries, thanks for the help.
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Just googled moore & carrowclare- lots more online
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This posting interests me could Solomon 1782 be the father of Samuel to? She does say children that she knows of. It is interesting that Samuel ends up in the same area as Solomon
Subject: [NORTHERNIRELANDGENWEB] Moore family of Carrowclare, Myroe,Londonderry
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:13:08 -0700
I am new to this list and looking for help of Moore family at the above location;
The information I have to date is as follows:
Solomon Moore was born about 1782, Ireland, he died 7 Aug. 1869, Carrowclare, Myroe,
Londonderry, Ireland. ( I have a copy of his will)
I do not know who his spouse was.
His children that I know of are:
1.John Moore, born about 1808, Londonderry, he had two sons, Solomon born about 1848, Londonderry and James born about
1852, Londonderry. I have a letter that was written in 1907 and John Moore was still alive and in his 90’s. I have possibly
found his death, Feb. 1908, Limavady.
2. Solomon Moore
3. Jane Moore
4. Ann Moore married William Miller
5. Sarah Moore
6. Christian Moore
7. Tristram Moore
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Proni has reference to a will, but not an image can anyone find an image for this will from 1790?
Index : Pre-1858 Wills and Admons
Sub-Index : Pre-1858 Wills Index
Surname : Moore
Forename : John
Occupation :
Town or Townland : Carrowclare
Parish :
County : Londonderry
Notes :
Description : Copy Will
PRONI Ref : D/1550/155/2
Date : 1790
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Have a reply from the poster of the Solomon Moore question. She has Solomon Moore born 1782 with one of his brothers being Samuel Moore, B: Abt. 1798 in Londonderry, Ireland, D: 20 Feb 1860 in Carryclare, Londonderry, Ireland. So this is now a new branch of the family tree when you add in the brothers and sisters of Samuel & Solomon. Intrersting that Solomon names one of his elder sons John Moore. Perhaps Solomon and Samuel are children of the John Moore of Carrowclare the one that left his will in 1790? I wish I could get a copy of that will.
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Pre-1858 Wills do not survive. Read the pages PRONI has put together on this, and many ofther subjects, to understand what is and is not available.
http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/research_and_records_held/catalogues_guides_indexes_and_leaflets/information_leaflets.htm
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Hi,
Below are the bare details of some Moore deaths as recorded in the Londonderry Sentinel. I have selected those from the Myroe district which includes the townlands of Crindle, Carrowreagh and Carrowreagh. I have also included one from Limavady because of the names.
26 Dec 1842 James Moore, Myroe aged 27
22 Feb 1853 Ezekiel Moore, Carrowreagh aged 69
13 May 1853 Solomon Moore, Limavady aged 77 "last survivor of the family of Mr Thomas Moore, Woollen Draper of Limavady"
11 Feb 1861 James Moore, Carrowreagh aged 39
28 Nov 1866 Christen (sic) Moore, Carrowclare aged 88
1 Jun 1867 Nehemiah Moore, Carrowreagh aged 88
10 Jul 1867 Sarah Jane Moore, Crindle aged 19 "second daughter of Mr William Moore, Crindle, Myroe"
7 Aug 1869 Solomon Moore, Carrowclare aged 87.
Regards
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Hello folks,
I have been following the recent conversation with interest but sadly not able to add anything constructive. If anyone finds a clue to Mary S. Moore born 1809 Londonderry. She married into the Shannon family of Derrybeg/Limavady by being William [k. or Cochrane] Shannon second wife at Londonderry in 1839.
There is a possibility that William Alexander Moore is related to the above Mary. He was born circa 1831 [in Ireland?] and his father is said to be Andrew Moore. William married Susannah Campbell in 1859 in Trura South Australia.
Susannah is possible the Sister in law of John Moody of Gortmore Hall/House Londonderry.
Jack Gee
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Married 30 March 1859 at the residence of John Moody at Truro. Married by Rev A Phillips. William Moore a farmer. Information from Trove.
Glenys
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Hi,
Some years ago, 2008 I think, there was a very long topic on the Moodys of Gortmore, Magilligan which mentioned Truro in Australia.
Regards
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Hi,
Some years ago, 2008 I think, there was a very long topic on the Moodys of Gortmore, Magilligan which mentioned Truro in Australia.
Regards
This one?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=386556.0
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Hello again,
yes.
I have seen this post and gleaned as much from it as i have been able for my interests in the Shannon, Moody, Hopkins families. The Moore angle intrigues me as we know bugger all. Thus my interest in this resurrected conversation.
The possible Moody connection is thru the Campbell girls-
John Moody b.1816.d.1885.m.1851 Margamenaphan Presbyterian church. Mary Campbell b.1825 Yorkshire - to America 1843? then to Australia 1851.
Similar dates to William Alexander Moore.bc.1831 Ireland.m.1859 Truro, Susannah Campbell.b.?.d.1874 Truro SA.
Cheers
Jack Gee
Longwood
Vic
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I am unable to add anything re the Moore discussion but would like to make a correction to the last post. John Moody did indeed marry Mary Campbell but the marriage took place in MAGILLIGAN Presbyterian Church on 8th July 1851. The marriage was reported in the Londonderry Sentinel. Mary was the daughter of William Campbell of Benone. According to my information he was a Scot who had migrated to Magilligan. Mary was born 10th June 1826 in Yorkshire.
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Jack this might be of interest to you.
Mr Andrew Moore of Magilligan married Miss Anne Jane Hopkins, daughter of Mr Abraham Hopkins of Myroe. They were married 2nd Feb 1846 in Myroe Pres Church. Abraham Hopkins held a lease in Carrymuddle in 1823.
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Hi Cyclamen thanks for that snippet,
Do you have any expansion on your Abraham Hopkins?
Do you have any of these Hopkins in your genealogy?
Marcus"Mark" Hopkins b.1794.d.1882 Limavady.m.1824 Elizabeth Ann Shannon
Ruth [thought to be Hopkins].bc.1786.d.1862 Derrybeg Buried Old Drumachose, married Samuel Shannon
Marcus Andrew Hopkins.b.1871 Newtown.d.1971.m. Elvina Jane Moody
Elizabeth Hopkins.b.1826.d.1938 Belfast.m.1849 Abraham James Hopkins Moody
Thomas James Hopkins.bbc.1859.d.?.m.Annie Ruth McCloy.
Cheers
Jack Gee
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Hi everyone,
Some clarifications and minor corrections in respect to the following items. Apologise for not posting them earlier.
Susannah is possible the Sister in law of John Moody of Gortmore Hall/House Londonderry.
Susannah and Mary (wife of John MOODY) are sisters. This is reported in South Australian Chronicle and Weekly Mail of Saturday 13 June 1874 on pages 9 & 10 (please refer http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article93303905) Susannah died in March 1874 as the result of falling down a well at the farm at Truro. Her husband was tried for her murder but was acquitted. Mary gave evidence at the trial and did identify herself as Susannah's sister.
Married 30 March 1859 at the residence of John Moody at Truro. Married by Rev A Phillips. William Moore a farmer. Information from Trove.
Glenys
The surname of the presiding minister is wrong. It is Philps. Rev. Philps' son, Richard, married Mary MOODY, the eldest dau of John MOODY and Mary CAMPBELL. I personally know some of their descendants.
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I have read the article but am a little puzzled. One of the witnesses at the trial was a "Mary Moody, wife of Charles Moody, Truro and sister of the deceased". Is the newspaper report incorrect? Should this read "wife of John Moody"?
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As it relates more to Moodys of Magilligan I have posted some information re Mary Campbell on
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=386556.0
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I have read the article but am a little puzzled. One of the witnesses at the trial was a "Mary Moody, wife of Charles Moody, Truro and sister of the deceased". Is the newspaper report incorrect? Should this read "wife of John Moody"?
Hi Cyclamen, the newspaper report is incorrect. Please refer the marriage notice in The South Australian Advertiser, Friday 1 April 1859, page 2 where John MOODY is mentioned as providing the venue for the marriage (please refer http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article791056)
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Hi,
Going back to the Moore family, I stumbled across the following while searching for something else. http://applications.proni.gov.uk/LL_DCAL_PRONI_ECATNI/ResultDetails.aspx
Regards
Edit- Link has "timed out". If you go to the PRONI e catalogue and enter D1550 the Moore reference is at the bottom.
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Hello
Just googled the name Solomon Moore, who was witness at a marriage in my family tree (Doherty/Miller). Was wondering if there would be any link to this conversation. The only info I have regarding the Moore name is that John Miller (died 1847) married Ann(e) Moore and they had Mary Miller in 1840, Carroclare, Myroe, Limavady. Mary Miller was my Grt Grt Grandmother. (She married William Doherty in 1866. Any info would be fantastic!
Puddleduck
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Hi,
I don't know if there is a connection but the Londonderry Sentinel published a death notice if a Solomon Moore on 20 May 1853. " On the 13 inst. at Newtownlimavady, Solomon, last survivor of the family of Thomas Moore, woolendraper of Newtownlimavady, aged 77 years".
Regards
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Hi
My great grandmother, Sarah Moore (then Watkin) also lived at Granville Essendon so it is likely that we are related. I believe Frances is her first cousin. I have a series of photos etc of the Moores, including Frances, and can share these if you would like.
Regards
James
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Would anyone know anything about this family of Thomas Moore?
I don't know if there is a connection but the Londonderry Sentinel published a death notice if a Solomon Moore on 20 May 1853. " On the 13 inst. at Newtownlimavady, Solomon, last survivor of the family of Thomas Moore, woolendraper of Newtownlimavady, aged 77 years".
Solomon would have been born about 1776. Was Thomas his father? Does anyone know of siblings of Solomon?
Regards
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I would read it that Solomon Moore was the last surviving child of Thomas Moore.
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MarilynL I have Thomas Moore born circa 1755 but thats just a guess. He could have a brother with unknown name who had children:
1. Solomon Moore born about 1782 died 1869 at Carrowclare
2. John Moore possibly married Agnes Lockhart
3. William Moore died 16th Jan 1883
4. Tristram Moore
5. Samuel Moore b. ca 1798 married 5 Jun 1819 in Limavady to Jane Black
I think Solomon Moore born about 1782 is a cousin of Solomon Moore born 1776 - 1853. There is no further info on his father Thomas Moore.
There was a John Moore died 1790 at Carrowclare but weather hes a brother of Thomas is only a guess and weather John is the father of the above 5 is also a guess. Samuel Moore and Jane Black being my ancestors.
1766 Religious Census
Thomas Moore
Drumachose Newtonlimavady
1740
Thomas Moore at Drumachose
Town Roe Mill
Both above men could be or may not be the same man or different Thomas's
Ezekiel Moore Pre 1858 will (does not exist) Farmer at Carrowreagh Died c1857
Ezekiel Moore alive 1766 died 1774 m Elizabeth (widow in 1774)
Alive 1766 at Drumachose
sons
Ezekiel Moore 1775 - 1853-57
Nehemieh Moore 1779 - 1867
The above info is a bit of a mess due to lack of records, there are other names to, hope that helps
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dunvr, thankyou for this. My response is delayed as I went through all the trail again as I have been working on this family for over a year. From information from the various posts on the topic and 4 Wills I have I did a rough tree. As my interest is in the Tristram Moore who was transported to Australia in 1802 as a rebel convict and was tried at Newtown Limavady I am particularly interested in the occurrence of the name Tristram so the following is a guess - no hard evidence:
A Tristram Moore had a son Thomas who was a woollen draper and another son John of the Will of 1790. Plus possibly other children.
Thomas had sons Solomon 1776-1853 the last survivor of Thomas, and Tristram c. 1765 - died Australia 1839 (my 5 x gt gfather). Plus probably other children.
John had sons Solomon 1782-1869 and Samuel 1798-1860 plus other children including a Tristram.
Then I read your response #56 and you have surmised the same except for the Tristrams.
Could Samuel the brother of Solomon have been born 1789 rather than 1798 as a bit of a gap then between the siblings? Is he definitely born 1798?
I am going to try and attach an excel tree as pdf which I have done trying to work out the family of Solomon 1782-1869 from Wills brought to my attention by Cheryl in Canada in 2015. Also trying to match information in this thread. (I can only attach max 500kb and each as pdf is more so attached as excel and word. Still didn't work as can only be pdf).
I have copies of 4 Wills for - James Moore died 11 Feb 1861, William Moore Will of 12 Jan 1874, Solomon Moore died 7 Aug 1869, and Letters of Admin for Samuel Moore died 20 Feb 1860.
They all mention various family members and seem to be connected but unfortunately the information is not sufficiently clear to be 100% certain as same names went through the generations.
I have some more I will put in a second reply.
Regards, Marilyn
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REPLY #2 - further information which may be of use.
*The 1800s Moores in the tree (which I can't attach) were largely in Carrowreagh and Carrowclare close to Myroe, Crindle and Broighter. These are in the parish of Tamlaght Finlagan and about 10 mins drive NW of Limavady which I believe is in the adjoining parish of Drumachose. Bovevagh is south of Limavady towards Dungiven.
* On the webstie www.failteromhat.com is Pigot & Co's Provincial Directory of Ireland - Ulster 1824. In Limavady under Merchants and Tradesmen are some MOOREs - Apothecaries: Wm (and surgeon) Main St. Surveyors: Thos, Main St. Taverns and Public Houses: John, Market House St. Shopkeepers, Tradesmen etc: Nehemiah, grocer, Main St. (Interestingly the Tristram Moore transported to Australia worked as an apothecary at Sydney Hospital till about 1810 and was later referred to as doctor).
* Names of Householders listed in the 1831 Census Returns for the Co of Londonderry (PRONI: MIC/5A/5-9B) - also on Bill McAfee's excellent web site.
Tamlaght Finlagan Moores:
Carrowclare included John, Robt, Solomon, 2 Wms, and others.
Carryreagh incl - Andy, Mary, Robt, Saml x 2, Thos, Wm, Wm Sen, and others.
* Find My Past - W P W Philimores and Gertrude Thrift Indexes to Irish Wills 1536-1858 incl some Moores:
- John, Carrowclare, p. TF 1816
- Mark, Carryreagh, p. TF 1829
- Thomas, Drumraghlin, p. TF 1797
- William, Kerrereagh, p. TF 1762.
Regards, Marilyn
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Thanks MarilynL I just sent you a PM with my email address as I think we share common ancestry so should discuss through email. Please send me the family tree you have and any documents I would particularily be interested to see Letters of Admin for Samuel Moore died 20 Feb 1860 as he is mine. Somewhere I had a dna match with someone who had the brothers I mentioned
1. Solomon Moore born about 1782 died 1869 at Carrowclare
2. John Moore possibly married Agnes Lockhart
3. William Moore died 16th Jan 1883
4. Tristram Moore
5. Samuel Moore b. ca 1798 married 5 Jun 1819 in Limavady to Jane Black
To be clear Samuel's birthdate is circa so could easily be earlier than 1798. There could also be a string of other children we don't know about. Sadly I never was able to identify the father of the brothers but lets share what we have on email and see if any more info comes to light.
Regards
D :)
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5. Samuel Moore b. ca 1798 married 5 Jun 1819 in Limavady to Jane Black
To be clear Samuel's birthdate is circa so could easily be earlier than 1798. There could also be a string of other children we don't know about. Sadly I never was able to identify the father of the brothers but lets share what we have on email and see if any more info comes to light.
Regards
D :)
I have a connection with a Jean Black who married an ancestor Joseph Ramage in St Columbs L'derry back in 1726. Joseph Ramage farmed in Shanreagh T/L Tamlaght Finlagan as did his descendants until moving to NZ in 1884/86.
Not sure if you have followed the Blacks back. I have not. If you have followed them would this Jean Black be related to your Jane Black?
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Hi shanreagh all I know about Jane Black was she was daugther of Robert Black of Ballyness. I would be interested to know more about him and his siblings and if his line could go further back, but have not followed that line. So any info on Robert Black of Ballyness his family and ancestors would be welcomed. I don't think your Jean Black is related to my Jane Black because she is married in 1819 and yours is much earlier from 1726.
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Just thought you might have gone back a little as we have not come forward very much from Joseph. It was just that they were from the Tamlaght Finlagan area with your folk more than anything. Joseph is either my gt gt grandfather's gt gt grandfather or the same number of gts uncle & Jean the same.
PS see now that Ballyness is near Bushmills.
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Hi,
There is also a townland of Ballyness in the parish of Dungiven. Three families called Black lived there in 1831.
Regards
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There are 7 townlands (and 5 sub-townlands) called Ballyness in Ireland.
https://www.townlands.ie/search/?q=ballyness
Here's the Dungiven one-
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/keenaght/dungiven/ballyness/
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From the 1831 census
10138 Black Black Robert Keenaght Dungiven Ballyness
Based on previous postings this must be the father of Jane Black in 1819.
kingskerswell & aghadowey have mentioned the correct the townland of Ballyness in the parish of Dungiven.
There is probably other records of Robert Black. But doubt we could get his lineage further geberations back.
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Hello,
I have a copy of a marriage certificate dated 1866 for a William Doherty and Mary Miller (my Grt Grt Grt G'parents). The witnesses of this marriage were a "Solomon Moore" and "Susan Doherty", in the parish of Tamlaghtfinlagan, Co Londonderry.
Hope this helps someone?
Puddleduck03
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Kingskerswell, re your response #37 on this trail can you please advise how/where you obtained these death notices from Londonderry Sentinel. is there a link? I have searched British Newspaper Archives and Find My Past but can't locate this or look for more records. Thankyou. Marilyn L
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kingskerswell
Re: Moore of Drumachose
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 18 January 15 12:32 GMT (UK) »
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Hi, Below are the bare details of some Moore deaths as recorded in the Londonderry Sentinel. I have selected those from the Myroe district which includes the townlands of Crindle, Carrowreagh and Carrowreagh. I have also included one from Limavady because of the names.
26 Dec 1842 James Moore, Myroe aged 27
22 Feb 1853 Ezekiel Moore, Carrowreagh aged 69
13 May 1853 Solomon Moore, Limavady aged 77 "last survivor of the family of Mr Thomas Moore, Woollen Draper of Limavady"
11 Feb 1861 James Moore, Carrowreagh aged 39
28 Nov 1866 Christen (sic) Moore, Carrowclare aged 88
1 Jun 1867 Nehemiah Moore, Carrowreagh aged 88
10 Jul 1867 Sarah Jane Moore, Crindle aged 19 "second daughter of Mr William Moore, Crindle, Myroe"
7 Aug 1869 Solomon Moore, Carrowclare aged 87.
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Sorry Marilyn but I cannot remember. I assume that some free newspaper details were available on-line at the time.
Regards
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Kingskerswell, thankyou. I'll keep hunting. Marilyn
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Hey, My name is David Moore. My brother is Thomas Robert Andrew Moore. My dad is Robert Andrew Moore and he was born in Garvagh. My sister was also given the middle name Martha because of a family connection I think. Lot of similarities in names there?
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Welcome to Rootschat :)
Lots of Moores in Garvagh area and without an idea of dates its difficult to know which family is your connection. We aren't allowed to post details of living people but if your father is deceased and you can give us an idea of when he was born then we might be able to find more details of your family (the ones from this thread are Drumachose area- near Limavady).
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Good morning , Albert Moore that run the Hotel/Postoffice in the main street in Garvagh back in the early 1900s would have been my Great Grandfather.
I have really enjoyed reading the info on this chat and has blown me away ,I would like to find out more about my family tree.
My late father Alfred McKeown Moore had told us that his granda run the hotel/ post office in Garvagh and had one of the first cars in the local area , but he had pasted away before he was ever born.
My Granda Albert Moore 1913 - 1987 , lived in Shuttle hill , Coleraine , He drove a lorry for Ulster Transport in Garvagh.
His mother was Martha , but i alway remember my dad saying the name Maxwell ?
If anyone can assist me with more info , i would really appreciate it. Thanks Tim Moore
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Hi thanks for the info on Albert Moore which matches what I have. Also read somewhere he may have owned a hotel? I would be interested in any further info if you have it as there maybe a descendant out there and that person may have info on Anne Jane Moore, Albert's mother and my G G grandmother. Thanks for looking for the info. Hopefully someone else will have some clues on the other Moore's.
If i can get any info , i would really appreciate it . Albert Moore that ran a Hotel / post office in the main street in Garvagh would have been my Great Grandfather.
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If i can get any info , i would really appreciate it . Albert Moore that ran a Hotel / post office in the main street in Garvagh would have been my Great Grandfather.
What sort of information are you looking for?
P.S. the Imperial Hotel in Garvagh has been undergoing renovation for the last few years.
See also- https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=765121.36
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Hello, Tim, re the quote you have from dunvr in 2009 about his Albert Moore with mother Anne Jane Moore.
Dunvr and I did some research a couple of years ago about our Moores from Carrowreagh and Carrowclare near Limavady. Our lines had a common ancestor back a few generations. I have earlier posts on this Drumachose trail.
Limavady is only about 13 miles from Garvagh.
Anne Jane Moore was born about 1835 to Samuel Moore 1798-1860. We have details of his Will. About 1852-57 Anne Jane Moore married a John Moore of Carrowclare. They had 3 children Sarah 1858, Albert 1860, Samuel 1863. Then John died and Anne Jane married a John Norris in 1865. In 1880 they went to Australia and only Sarah and Samuel went with them. Albert stayed behind and dunvr thought he may have opened a hotel - there was contact with the family in Australia and Anne Jane died in Victoria in 1920.
So could this Albert born in 1860 or a son Albert (I don't have information on that) be your great grandfather. I don't know what records you can find about your great grandfather re when and where he was born - if of Albert 1860 he could have been born about 1880-1890. You say your Granda was born 1913. The years could work.
In our research Albert wasn't a common name.
Marilyn Long.
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It seems a photo postcard came up for sale at some point, of a motor in front of the Albert Moore Hotel, c1900s:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qo1/
Tim Moore, where was your Albert Moore born in 1913? Not seeing a birth for him in Irish Civil Registration index.
Ah, birth was at Garvagh, 09 February 1914. Mother's maiden name Maxwell, father's occupation Car Driver:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/bac7340275227
His parents married in Belfast on 6th February 1913. Albert, aged 24, gave a Belfast address at time, and named his father as a William John Moore, a Carpenter, Martha Maxwell also gave a Belfast address:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/97c5ca1723298
Possibly same Albert lodging with a McMichael family in Garvagh at 1911:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Garvagh/Mettican_Glebe/590965/
with occupation Coachman, as was the Albert of the marriage.
The Albert of the marriage gave address as Halliday's Road. In 1911, there was a Moore family in same Road, with head William Moore, but he was listed as a French Polisher:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Duncairn/Halliday_s_Road/140780/ and no-one named Albert in their household at 1901: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Sheridan_Street/937205/
The Albert, with a wife Martha, of the hotel, was aged 50 in 1911 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Garvagh/Main_Street/591117/
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Cheers guys , I only wish I had a full conversation with my late father. He defiantly said his Grandfather run a post office/ Hotel in Garvagh and drove a car and he never got the chance to meet him. The maiden name doesn't correspond with Martha (Maxwell) .
Kind of stuck now on which direction to go now? Thanks for your help
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As I posted several years ago, Albert Moore ran the Imperial Hotel in Garvagh, also had a car business (transporting people between Garvagh, the station and other places) and was married to Martha Linton. The post office in Garvagh was a separate establishment.
Scotmum has posted details of the family of Albert Moore born 1914 in Garvagh.
Perhaps you are getting the two families confused? It's not uncommon for family stories to get a bit muddled over time.
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Perhaps go in the direction of my reply #76, and work through what I have posted.
As aghadowey has indicated, it was/is not uncommon was for stories to 'crossover' between families or even just others of same surname.
Importantly, for you, as you recall mention of Martha being a Maxwell, then the marriage in Belfast and birth in 1914, not 1913, in Garvagh, fit well for your Moore line. I would say occupation of Coachman then Car Driver is also a good fit.
The only poor fit, is that the Albert of the marriage, named his father as William John, when your story expected it to be another Albert. And given the ages of the Albert and Martha at the hotel in 1911, it is highly unlikely they would have had another child in 1913/14 (and no indication in records that they did).
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Thanks , I will now follow that line now. Would you have any tips for trying locate the grave of Albert Moore and Martha (Maxwell)Moore that would have been born 1889 and 1887 .
Once again , thanks for all the info