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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Shropshire => Topic started by: tresario on Wednesday 04 November 09 11:28 GMT (UK)
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Hello
I would like any information on John Smith born about 1815/16 in Shifnal Shropshire. He was a tailor by trade. He married a Sarah ? from West Bromwich and later settled in Darlaston with his 5 children, Eliza,William, Samuel( my paternal grandparent) Susannah and Thomas.
I would appreciate any information you can offer
Best Regards
Bernie
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Hi
Here is the family in 1851
John Smith 35..Tailor..Shifnal, Shropshire, England
Sarah Smith 38..West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Eliza Smith 10..Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
William Smith 8..Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Samuel Smith 4..Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Susannah Smith 2..Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Thomas Smith 4 Mo..Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Fredrick Smith 15 ( Cousin ) Tailors apprentice..Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Living at Catherines Cross
Piece: 2022
Folio: 77
Page: 36
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Thankyou for your help Judi, I already had that census information from 1851. Sorry I should have made my message a little clearer. I am particularly interested in John pre 1851 particularly where he lived in Shifnal and his family. His marriage etc.
Best Regards
Bernie
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There is a look up exchange for Shifnal ( Pauline Pickering)
http://www.faulkes.co.uk/lookup/salop.htm.
May be worth asking for a lookup for John Smith
Regards Judi
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Here he is in the 1841 all born in county..Note looks on the original to me that there all at the
Bucks Head at Eaton an also should be 3 others listed above them
Edward Rowley 35 Publican
Mary Rowley 45
Joseph Rowley 7
Martha Evans 18 F /Servant
Benjamin Smith 18 ..M/Servant
John Smith 25..........Tailor Lodger
Sarah Smith 25
Thos Smith 20
Edward Edwards 2
John Cain 22
William Smith 22
Piece 912
5; Folio: 7
Page: 6
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Removed posted in error
Sorry
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This could be his christening
Parents William Smith & Susan
Christening of John Smith 17 MAR 1816 Shifnal, Shropshire, England ( Extracted IGI)
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Thank you so much. I wonder what they were doing at the Bucks Head in Eaton?? I am assuming thats his wife Sarah, Thomas his brother??
i will take your advice and see what the Faulkes .co.uk has to offer.
Many Thanks
Best Regards
Bernie
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Hi Judy
Just to let you know I have emailed Pauline Pickering from Shropshire look up. Fingers Crossed and thank you so much for your help.
Best Regards
Bernie
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Hello Judy,
If I wanted a birth and baptism certificate for John Smith where would I get that from please?
Regards
Bernie
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Hi Bernie
Sadly that will not be possible because John Smith was born prior to 1837 when it became law to register Birth's Marriages & Deaths .
Prior to 1837 it was not a legal requirement, the only registers that would be available to view may be the church/Parish registers that would contain a copy of his baptism record, but I would doubt it would give you much more than I have posted before ie date Parents & parish.
Regards Judi
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Thankyou for all your help. It is much appreciated
Best Regards
Bernie
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Hi Bernie
Just a thought ...If you ordered one of the children's ( born to John & Sarah ) birth certificates that would then give you her ( Susans ) Maiden name . we could then find the marriage & order that cert which would confirm both John & Susans fathers names & hopefully an address as to where they lived prior to the marriage.
Births Dec 1848 Susannah Smith Walsall 17 233
The Certs would cost £7 each from here....http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
To make sure you are ordering the correct cert you can state that only if the father on the cert is a John Smith mother Susan, do you want it
If the details of the cert you requested do NOT match, you will not be charged the full amount. or sent the cert.
Hope that make sense Regards Judi
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Yes, I have someone going on Friday to get Samuels birth and marriage certificate.
Thank you for all of your help
Bernie
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Hello
I posted on here about 8 years ago in relation to John Smith born in Shifnal Shropshire 1816. Please could you tell me if there is any more information available on this family now. I am no further forward, I have even taken DNA, but my smith matches don't have any more information.
please can anyone help?
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Link to previous thread
Threads merged.
Did you manage to establish his wife's maiden name as per last replies?
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Panic over, I had the information from previously. Thank you.