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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: John in Ontario on Friday 01 January 10 23:49 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
I am new to this forum, but have been trying for several years to piece together a family history. My father, who will be 100 in February is a great resource, but I would interested in any information from anyone else who is researching the following families:
Cocking from Luddington, Barrow on Humber and Grimsby.
Forward from Grimsby, Hull and Cornwall
Ray, from Grimsby, Boston, London and Cork
Arber (Naval officers) from Plymouth and Leicster
Ranyard, from Sixhills, North Coates
Thanks.
John.
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One of yours?
Old Clee Church Grimsby 18/10/1898
John Henry Hercules Forward age 22 a pawnbroker of 137 Hainton Street
Father..Joseph Pascho ..a gentleman
Amelia Maria Ray age 22 of Bank House Freeman Street
Father..Robert Arber..a caretaker of bank
Wit: Robert William Ray.
Barleymow
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Also there is this
Scartho Road Cemetery Grimsby.
John Henry Hercules Forward age 56 died 3rd March 1933
Amelia Maria Forward age 67 died 10th January 1945.
There is a Memorial stone in the cemetery for them.
Barleymow
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Yes! that is my mother's family. Thank you, that is more detail than I had.
John.
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This one too?
St James Church Grimsby 1867
Joseph Pasco Forward full age a custom house officer of William Street
Father ..John a custom house officer
Mary Elizabeth Fryman of full age a spinster of Kent Street
Father ...Henry Hercules a mariner
Wits: Henry Hercules Fryman and Elizabeth Ablet.
Barleymow
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Yes, I think so. The Forwards and Frymans seem to inter-marry.
Do you have a connection to this family?
John.
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Hello John ..no I am not related to this family,I have church weddings and some death and burial records for Grimsby.
Here is another one I have found...
Primitive Methodist Church Flottergate Grimsby 15/03/1887
Reuben Ray age 22 a bachelor and an Engineer of 53 Fildes Street Grimsby
Father... Robert Arbor an engineer
Annie Lill age 21 a spinster and a dressmaker of 89 Fildes Street Grimsby
Father..David John..a labourer
Wits: T.H.Ricketts and L.Ricketts
Barleymow
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Also..
Scartho Road Cemetery Grimsby
Annie Ray age 82 died 30th April 1949
Reuben Ray age 91 died 25th June 1955
Florence Ray age 6 died 26 January 1894
A Memorial Stone in the cemetery reads..
Florence RAY died 26 January 1894 age 6 years 9 months
and her mother Annie died 30 April 1949 age 82
and her father Reuben died 25 June 1955 age 91
Barleymow.
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Parish Church of The Holy Trinity, Barrow on Humber War Memorial for the
1914-18 war has listed an Alfred Henry Cocking
The Barrow on Humber Cemetery has the following:
William Cocking died at Barrow 26th June 1891 aged 69. Elizabeth Cocking wife died 22nd May 1911 aged 84.
There are also a number of recent burials i.e. late 20th century in the same cemetery for the name of Cocking.
Alan
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Marriage Index 1700-1837 has the following
Ann Cocking m John Rannall, Barrow on Humber 1774
John Cocking m Mary Ann Sargent 19th May 1836, Barrow on Humber
Alan
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Thank you for that information. The John Cocking you mention (my namesake) may well be a direct ancestor. I believe he was a blacksmith.
John.
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Any reference to COCKING's from Maryland USA or Fulstow Uk ?
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Not to my knowledge, but will keep those places in mind for future reference.
Thanks.
John.
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There are 12 Cocking marriages for Grimsby in the records I have..do you have another name for any of yours.
To compare and see if they are yours?
Barleymow
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Hello Barleymow,
Sorry for the delay in response. We have been dealing with a very sick dog (still are). Most of my direct Cocking ancestors came from the Isle of Axholme, Barrow on Humber being my great grandfather's home. He was a blacksmith. He moved to Grimsby after being injured by a horse (or so my father tells me), so there probably are not many of my Cocking ancestors in Grimsby itself. My grandfather Herbert Henry married Alice Ranyard, but I am not sure about where the marriage took place. My parents were married in Waltham, and one uncle was married in Grimsby to Mary Cammack, but that was post WW II.
If your records include Barrow on Humber and other towns in the Isle of Axholme, there would likely be more to find.
I do appreciate you taking the trouble to check all this out.
John.
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Sorry John I only have Grimsby and Cleethorpes marriages.
I do hope your sick dog is recovering,I know upsetting it is when a pet, and part of the family ..as they always are,becomes poorly.
Barleymow
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FreeBMD
Marriage
Dec qtr1905
Louth reg district
Herbert henry Cocking
Alice renyard
7a 323
Suz
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Thanks Barleymow and Suzard!
John.
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do you haqve this??
Robert George Cocking birth reg dec qtr 1906 grimsby
child of Herbert henry and Alice
death reg
Robert G Cocking
age 9
Mar qtr 1916
Grimsby
7a 861
and
Kenneth Raynard Cocking
born 10 may 1908
death reg Jan 1994 age 85
Grimsby
A41C 5481A
Marriage reg
Kenneth Raynard Cocking
Mary W Cammock
Sept qtr 1949
Grimsby
3b 714
Suz
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I knew of a "Bobby" who died as a child (drowned I believe) but I did not have the details that you have provided. I knew my Uncle Ken and Aunt Mary quite well and was at their wedding, but again the details are useful.
Thanks for your help and interest!
John.
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Herbert Henry married in 19o5 Louth district if he is the one on 1911 census as below
Data Removed in order not to infringe Copyright - Global Moderator
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Not sure how far you are along with finding the Forward family, but I have a lot of them connected to my tree through the Springall family. Merry Christmas. x
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Thanks for your reply. I have my direct Forward family line back to 1700's in Cornwall, and some Fryman's as well (who seem to be closely related). I have not ventured far off my direct line, and do not know of the Springall family, but I would be pleased to learn more if you care to share.
Thanks again for your interest.
John.
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John,
I have an Elizabeth Cocking (? - 1783) marrying Richard UNDY (1697 - 1768) in 1737, presumabably at West Retford, Nottinghamshire. I have no other details.
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John
Not sure if I've conacted you before, this is the same family as mine. My great grandparentswere John Forward b1823 Polperro (photos of him on left)and Mary Fryman b1825 Grimsby. I have alot of info on the Forwards and Frymans, if you want to send me a pm with your e-mail I'll send you some info
Fiona
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Not sure how far you are along with finding the Forward family, but I have a lot of them connected to my tree through the Springall family. Merry Christmas. x
Hi would you mind comparing info ? I have a some info on the Springall line and also some photos of the Kitt line :)
Fiona
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sorry duplicate post ???
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hi . I am very new to this site. I am a forward by birth. descended from Thomas forehead in Cornwall...my grandfathers parents were J HH Forward and Amelia ray .
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Hello Juliet,
We do seem to share some ancestors, but I think you may be partly mistaken about your grandfather's parents. According to my records, my (Forward) great grandparents were Robert Arber Ray and Ann Elizabeth Potto, my grandparents were John Henry Hercules Forward and Amelia Ray. Their children were Ralph, Irene, Mildred, and Jack. Are related to any of these people?
Your name "Pascho" is interesting because back in the early 1800's Samuel Forward married Hannah Pascho. Not sure how this all fits together, but we probably do have common ancestors, but I think you may have the generations wrong.
If you need some more help, please send me some more details, and I will see if I can help you sort it our. I do have quite a lot of Forward family history, since my mother was a Forward.
John.
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Hi , I was tired and mistakenly put in the wrong person. Jack was my wonderful Grandad. Who's parents are the ones you correctly named. His son was John, who is my dad . I have a few photos of some of that side. I remember meeting Mildred when I was young (would have to check with mom and dad) .
The weird thing about Pascho ... I used to play childhood games when I was little . I used to call myself Hanna and pretended I lived by the sea. When I found Hanna on the tree I was so interested , especially when I found out she was either born or at least registered (not sure which) on my birthday!
There is a story behind how I became Pascho .. but Its probably not wise to put it on a public forum.
I do have all of the direct line of ancestors to cornwall thanks to people on Genes Reunited, but some of the maternal sides .. not so much. I'd like any info you can give me about the Rays .. there was a story that one of the family did the statue in the park in Grimsby, and the name does seem to match one of them , do you know anything about that or more about Amelia. I always knew we had relations in Ontario .
Thankyou for replying :) ... Jules
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Hi Jules
I'm in Grimsby and have quite a lot of info on the Forwards as my gg grandfather was John Forward (grandfather to your John H H Forward) I can send you what I have so you can compare to your information.
The statue in Peoples Park is called the Smethurst Memorial and was built as a tribute to Henry Smethurst who was, amongst other things, the mayor of Grimsby. Its was built by Robert W Ray elder brother to your Amelia.
Fiona
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Hello Jules,
So, your grandfather was my Uncle Jack, the antique dealer who had a shop in Hainton Square, with whom I used to spend quite a bit of time. We used to go to Hull, he to scour for antiques, and me to go trainspotting at Paragon Station. (I would guess that I was around 10-12 at the time). I do have some more I can pass along, but not right now. The information from "Floss" who has some common ancestors with us, is correct, also the war memorial in Louth is his work. There is a longish story about him going to Florida, that I will tell you later. He would have been your grandfather's, and my mother's, "Uncle Bob".
If you wish to contact me privately, my email address is john.cocking- gmail.com. (*put in an @ at the appropriate spot)
John. (First Cousin, once removed)