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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Argyllshire => Topic started by: Grey Seagull on Tuesday 02 March 10 11:07 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
Was wondering if anyone knows where I can find a lair layout plan/burial list for the burial ground of Kilmalieu, Invarary.
Death record records that body was taken from Glasgow to Invarary for burial (1860s) but having visited the cemetery, it has been impossible to find the headstone which I have been told was on the grave.
Any help gratefully received.
:)
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Hi Grey Seagull,
Several members of my Purdie - Greig - Mathie - Walls family from around Inverary were buried in Kilmalieu burial ground.
I was helped by a researcher in Inverary - can`t recall how I found her but could get in touch on your behalf if all else fails.
Let me know what you would like me to do.
Regards, Thommoje
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Hi Thommoje,
I am looking for the grave of Agnes Rankin(e), m/s Anderson, spouse of Donald Rankin(e). She died in Glasgow 28th January 1860, aged 74, though she was born and brought up in Inverary.
Many of the stones are in a bad state of repair or have fallen and been grown over by grass or the inscriptions have just faded. To find the grave, I would need a map/diagram with the names of other graves in the vacinity to help me ensure I have the correct lair.
It is a big ask, but if you are able to help, that would be great!
Did you manage to locate your graves? If so, I would be happy to take photos of your graves if you don't already have them.
Regards,
Grey Seagull
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Hi Grey Seagull,
I will contact the researcher in Furnace and let you know what she can tell us.
As I live in Australia, I have not been able to visit Kilmalieu burial ground. Your offer to photograph any graves of my family members is wonderful - thank you , in anticipation of some success.
Family members known to be buried there are :-
Catherine ( Morrison ) Buntain - died 15/4/ 1856 - aged 46 yrs
William Greig , Shoemaker died 4/7/1793 - aged 28 years - Stone erected by David Greig , Overseer in Glen Shira [ my GGG Grandfather]
Ann Walls died 24 October 1855 aged 75 /77 years
Robert Walls died 4/3/ 1828 aged 96 years
wife Janet Mathie died 11/9/ 1825 aged 93
William Greig ( 25 June 1785 - 17 Dec 1858)
Others who must be there:-
Alexander Purdie - died 1822 [ my GG Grandfather ]
Janet ( Greig ) Purdie - wife of above - died 1851- 1854
Robert Buntain - died 13 April 1887
Christine ( Greig ) Fogo 9/9/1787 - 28 Feb 1871
Elizabeth ( Greig) Thom 6/2/ 1799 - 30/6/ 1884
Grace / Grizel Greig 30/1/1804 - 30 /10/1889
Any Walls, Mathie , Greig , Purdie / Morrison / Buntain / Fogo or Thom inscriptions that can be read are likely to be my folk - as you can see my ties to Inverary and the Estate `s workforce are strong.
I gather you live nearby and this would not be difficult for you .
Regards, Thommoje
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Hi,
Live not too far away - couple of hours. But a trip there means the chance to visit a lovely restaurant en route. Probably won't be going till April. Will have a good look around for your headstones but, as I say, many are in poor condition. Do you have any specific locations?
Regards :)
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If its Loch Fyne you'll be stopping at .. have an oyster for me !!
Dblun
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Yes, it will be! Will do, with pleasure ;D
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Hi Grey Seagull,
I have had a Reply from my contact in Furnace.
She has a list and plan for Kilmalieu burial ground. She has checked and there are no Rankins or Andersons.
She did find amongst her other records a John Anderson married to an Elizabeth Campbell who had a daughter Agnes. He was deceased by 1858 and was a Brewer.
There is another cemetery called Shira but it is relatively new.
Hope there is something of help,
Regards, Thommoje
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Hi Thimmoje,
My Agnes is the daughter of a John Anderson and an Unknown Campbell; presumably, the person who registered her death had forgotten the first name.... Although I was lead to believe that John was a maltman, ie working with whisky, there was not a distillary at Inverary: apparently they blended whisky brought to the Castle.
A brewer working with beer is a similar occupation, and possibly to an engineer (her husband & son) they might be the same thing. I think too that I have found some evidence that my Agnes' mother was Elizabeth: second daughter is called Elizabeth. I plan at some time in the future to contact Inverary Castle to ask if they have any records of John's employment: family lore does link the family with the Castle.
I have never seen it before, but information on the burial was written onto the death certificate. The funeral was undertaken by Wylie & Lochhead - a large and well-known Glasgow firm, and having checked their records, can confirm she was buried at Kilmalieu. It may be that your friend has a copy of IMs recorded fairly recently rather than the original burial records, and if this is the case, it may be that the headstone was damaged/broken/badly weathered by the time the IMs were recorded. Oh well ::)
However, I think that this John and Elizabeth are probably the correct family, therefore would be grateful to receive any information about them that he/she may have. Also, if your contact in Furnace is able to provide a plan of the burial ground and info on the plots, it would make locating your relatives a lot easier.
Thanks for your help, and am looking forward to my trip to Inverary!
:) :) :)
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Hi Grey Seagull,
I read some time ago that The Scottish Genealogy Society has a list of burials at Kilmalieu . They are at 15 Victoria Terrace , Edinburgh. Ph +44 (0) 131 220 3677
I see a marriage in Inveraray -- Donald Rankin + Anne Anderson on 3 Jan 1811 - is that possibly your couple.
I was looking for my GGGrandparents Alexander Purdie + Mary Morrison in South Knapdale , Ardrishaig to be precise. I know he was the proprietor of The Argyll Arms there at the time of his death ( from his testament). Have not been able to find his burial place.
The point I am getting to is that there is a burial ground there called Lochead and another called Kilmallie. It is not surprising that some of these searches are difficult with so many similar names. Saw plenty of Rankin s and Mc Corquedales also.
Will ask my Historian contact about the plan for Kilmalieu.
Thommoje
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Hi,
Donald Rankin b1821(app) m Agnes Anderson, daughter of John Anderson and Elizabeth(?) Campbell. The other Donald may be his uncle.
Yes, got a bit confused with all the similar names of burial grounds to begin with but looking at their locations and other research, Kilmalieu is the only logical one. However, I keep an open mind.
Will try the society you suggest. Had tried the council a couple of times, but the person responsible was never there...
Regards,
Grey Seagull
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Hi Again,
The Scottish Genealogy Society has an email address you could try.
enquiries [at] scotsgenealogy.com
Worth an ask. I have contacted the lady in Furnace about the plan of Kilmalieu - will keep you posted.
Thommoje
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Hi Jean,
Finally made it to Kilmalieu today, and spent two hours looking for your gravestones. Phoned for more detailed guidance, but for some reason, the gravedigger didn't seem to lay his graves out in straight rows, so it was difficult knowing exactly which row was which.
We had a good look around all the gravestones that were readable, but were not able to trace the two you mentioned. I have taken some photos of the graveyard to give you an idea of what it looks like - sadly, not a sunny day - and also a few around the area where I think they should be. However, I can't be too sure if they are accurate: often 'I' is missed out in lists, and not sure if the numbers refer to the gravestones or to the lair. So, if you want to ask your contact for the row and number of the graves in the photographs, it might help pin them down.
I did manage to find the gravestone I was looking for! The detail was quite good and Agnes Anderson's name, father's and husband's names plus date of death are all quite clear. Amazing really, considering the condition of some of the other stones...
This is about the fourth time I have gone round this graveyard, so I hope that with the rows & numbers from the pictures, I might be able to find your gravestones on another visit (June/July at earliest).
As there are a lot of photos, and I still need to track down my pc link cable, I will email them direct.
Sorry the news wasn't better for now, maybe next time...
Regards,
Chris
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Hi again Jean,
... my contact in Furnace... ... did find amongst her other records a John Anderson married to an Elizabeth Campbell who had a daughter Agnes. He was deceased by 1858 and was a Brewer.
Just re-reading the posts and wondered what information your friend has that pinpoint's John Anderson's death to before 1858. I am now as sure as one can be when dealing with parish records that this John Anderson is the Maltster referred to on the gravestone, and more importanly, the brewer of Agnes's death certificate.
Is it possible that your friend has burial information for John and his spouse Elizabeth Campbell? :D
Regards,
Chris
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Here is a pic from Kilmalieu cemetery, facing towards the loch
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Fantastic photo Thanks !!
Hope you stopped for Oysters at Loch Fyne!
Dorothy
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Hi Dorothy,
Sadly, no time that day. Just time for some fabulous shortbread and excellent coffee!
Maybe next time...
:)
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Does anyone have any idea who might have records of lairs or plots in Kilmalieu Cemetery Inveraray.
My parents, grand parents and great grandparents were born and lived in Inveraray. My family are interred there and my Mother said we have two plots. Argyll and Bute have no records for obvious reasons that in the 1800's and early 1900's there was no paperwork, only word of mouth by family.
Any advice would be very much appreciated
Thanks
Isabel