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Title: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: KitCarson on Friday 30 April 10 16:13 BST (UK)
Edgar Watson was born in Edmonton, London in 1900 to George Gray Watson and Helen Taylor Edgar who were both originally from the Moray and Banff areas of Scotland.

We know that the family moved back up to Scotland in around 1905 and  we have seen a photograph of a commemorative stone in Fochabers, Scotland which details the names of his wife and 3 living daughters. The stone also tells us that Edgar died in 1974 and his wife Edith died in 1972 in Jamaica. It appears that Edgar had moved to Jamaica however we have no other information.

If anyone is able to help us I'd be really grateful.

Kit.
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 30 April 10 16:29 BST (UK)
A few mentions in passenger lists:

24 February 1930: Edgar Watson travelling alone on the Montagua from Dartmouth to Kingston. He's a 29 year old engineer. Address The Foundry, Elam, Morayshire


2 September 1939: On the Orduna from Liverpool to Kingston (in First Class):
Edgar Watson, 38 Surveyor
Emma Edith Watson, housewife
Helen Marguerite and Edith Marilyn both 16 months

Address 11 Victoria Road, West Kirby Cheshire
 

There are some more I think..still looking
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 30 April 10 16:33 BST (UK)
27 September 1923: There is an Edgar Watson on the Melita from Liverpool to Montreal - a 24 year old engineer. Address in UK St Stephen's Vicarage, Tabard Road, Boro, SE

Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 30 April 10 16:36 BST (UK)
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1356&dat=19660413&id=JcswAAAAIBAJ&sjid=dAUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1542,3886067

"Capt Edgar Watson, Kingston ship surveyor"
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: KitCarson on Friday 30 April 10 17:27 BST (UK)
Hi ShaunJ

Thank you very much :D.  You've confirmed some of the information we had (children's names) but given us a lot more to go on.  Have had a quick look for daughter's births in England and Scotland but can't find anything solid as we don't know Emma Edith's maiden name.

What resource have you used to find out all the information?

Kit
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 30 April 10 17:57 BST (UK)


I found the Watson family arriving in UK from Kingston (via Montreal) in June 1939, so the children could well have been born overseas. UK destination address given as 11 Victoria Road West Kirby.

That address in West Kirby belonged to a Leslie Tucker in the late 1930's and 1940's.
 
Will send a PM re sources.



Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 30 April 10 20:15 BST (UK)
The Jamaica Registrar General's department charges just £6 an hour for family history research http://www.rgd.gov.jm/gr
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 30 April 10 20:43 BST (UK)
Leslie Tucker (born circa 1875) and wife Aimee Harriet (circa 1877) travelled to Jamaica several times from 1935.

Leslie Tucker married Amy Harriet Beedle in 1900

In the 1911 census ( to which I do not have a subscription or credits) an index search shows Leslie Tucker aged 36 with wife Aimee Harriet aged 32 in Birkenhead. They appear to have two one son and 7 daughters including Emma Edith Tucker aged 3. There is also a possible sibling William Kington Tucker (circa 1878)

So there is your Edith !
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 30 April 10 21:05 BST (UK)
Marriage date Jan 11, 1934.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?ei=LjfbS_TyKJLp-Qa837jiDg&ct=result&id=cH5mAAAAMAAJ&dq=%22leslie+tucker%22+teacher&q=+%22emma+Edith%22+%22leslie+tucker%22
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: KitCarson on Friday 30 April 10 21:10 BST (UK)
YOU ARE A STAR!

Thank you very very much.   Will need to digest all this info and see where we go from here.  3rd daughter of Edgar and Emma Edith was .................... Aimee Diane. ;D

I have credits for the 1911 and will explore.

Kit and daughter
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: anm on Thursday 06 May 10 19:18 BST (UK)
Hi Kit

Go to www.moray.org/LocalHeritage/ and you will find info on the Watsons and the Edgars.
Daughters Helen Marguerite and Edith Mary still appear to be in Jamaica - now  Marguerite Gauron and Dr Marilyn Duff, do not know if the other daughter is still alive.  Hope this helps.

Ann
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: anm on Thursday 06 May 10 19:36 BST (UK)
Hi Kit

Forgot to say when you go to Local Heritage site click on to libindx then people.

Ann
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: KitCarson on Thursday 06 May 10 23:31 BST (UK)
Hi anm, we googled and have already taken the plunge and e-mailed Dr Duff.  She has not only responded but copied in another family member.  Its early days yet, but we hope that it might lead to future dialogue.  As I say, early days.

Had recently been directed to libindex and have found it to be extremely helpful and would recommend to all who have an interest in the Moray area.

Thanks very much for your help and will keep you updated.

Kit
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: kvalens on Friday 15 November 19 19:18 GMT (UK)
"Mrs. Edgar Watson" contributed a recipe for Raspberry Princess Pudding to the cookbook Sweets Snacks Savouries, published in Jamaica in 1939.
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: KitCarson on Friday 15 November 19 19:53 GMT (UK)
Hello kvalens, thanks for your interest and post.  Can I ask how you came across the recipe?  We are in touch with the daughters, at least one still in Jamaica.  There is a back story, which I won't go into here, but has been posted on this site.

Look forward to hearing from you.  Kit (Paula)
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: kvalens on Friday 15 November 19 20:01 GMT (UK)
I'm a scholar researching Caribbean Cookbooks 1850-1950 and have been working on understanding the communities of women who contributed to them. I came across your thread on rootschat as I searched for information on "Mrs. Edgar Watson".  The only copy of Sweets Snacks Savouries  Unusual Cocktails that I've been able to find is at Schlesinger Library in Cambridge, MA, USA.  It was edited by Edith E. Brown and Margaret G Worlledge and was a fundraiser for the Jamaica Branch of the British Sailors Society.  All of the women who contributed to the cookbook seem to have been friends and belonged, at least briefly, to a similar circle in the Jamaican elite (the forward to the cookbook was written by Lady Richards, wife of the then-governor of Jamaica). If you happen to come across any further information about that social group, I'd love to hear about it.
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: KitCarson on Saturday 16 November 19 12:25 GMT (UK)
Hello, unfortunately, I don't have any information to offer regarding Edgar and Edith Watson and their social circle.  However, I could get in touch with the sisters and see if any of them would be interested in corresponding with you?  If you make one more post, we can use the personal message system to keep in touch.

regards, Kit
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: KitCarson on Saturday 16 November 19 16:10 GMT (UK)
I've received a response from one of the daughters and she would be very happy to correspond with you.  If you would like to make a 3rd post, that should allow us to PM and you could then let me have a contact email address to pass on, if you would like to.

Kit
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: kvalens on Monday 18 November 19 14:28 GMT (UK)
Dear Kit,

Thank you so much; I would appreciate that. 

Best,
Keja
Title: Re: Edgar and Edith Watson - Scotland to Jamaica
Post by: KitCarson on Monday 18 November 19 14:47 GMT (UK)
Hi, I have sent a Personal Message.

Kit