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Title: Evan Celyn Rowlands (b c 1905)
Post by: Huwcyn on Friday 14 May 10 18:38 BST (UK)
Does anyone know anything about this distant relative of mine ? I think he may have been a minister, possibly an African missionary. I think he was born in South Wales
Title: Re: Evan Celyn Rowlands (b c 1905)
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 14 May 10 18:41 BST (UK)
Have you checked for a birth on freebmd to confirm his birthplace and birthyear

Have you looked for him on the 1911 census to establish who his parents were
Title: Re: Evan Celyn Rowlands (b c 1905)
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 14 May 10 18:45 BST (UK)
1911 free index shows in Cardiff

Evan Celyn Rowlands 4

In same household

Robert Evan Rowlands 47
Margaret 30
Owen Celyn 7

If you Google his name - he wrote books "teach yourself Yoruba"

http://en.scientificcommons.org/e_c_rowlands
Title: Re: Evan Celyn Rowlands (b c 1905)
Post by: bevbee on Sunday 16 May 10 11:06 BST (UK)
Mentioned in the London Gazette as Chaplain to the forces - Llandaff.

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/37433/supplements/496

Title: Re: Evan Celyn ROWLANDS (b c 1905)
Post by: EJ on Thursday 03 February 11 04:18 GMT (UK)
I have only just come across your note but Evan Celyn ROWLANDS (1903-1970) is part of my ROWLANDS family.

His parents were Robert Evans ROWLANDS (1863-1928) b Bangor, CAE and Margaret OWEN (c1881-?).

Grandparents: Owen Robert ROWLANDS (1834-1920) b Llanrug/Llanddeiniolen, CAE and Margaret HUGHES (1833-1918) b Penmon, Anglesey

Siblings: Owen Celyn ROWLANDS (1903-1970)
               Ellis C ROWLANDS (1914-?)

Further information is available on my Public Tree on Ancestry (HUMPHREYS/ASHTON/ROWLANDS)

Let me know if I can help further.

Regards
EJ
Title: Re: Evan Celyn Rowlands (b c 1905)
Post by: inneraxe100 on Friday 03 June 11 13:54 BST (UK)
Hi, My father is married to the daughter of Evan's Brother (he was always know as Celyn) he lived in Newtown in Powys and then moved to Wem, where he died some time in the early 70's.

Dad, has been very busy working on the family tree and may well be able to help you.

If you would like to contact me through this site I can pass on his details and you can go from there. (he may well already be registered on here thought)??

Kind regards

martin
Title: Re: Evan Celyn Rowlands (b c 1905)
Post by: Huwcyn on Monday 06 June 11 07:24 BST (UK)
Have sent you PM . Incidentally, I've taken a photo of what I think was the original 'Celyn ' at
Llanddeiniolen yesterday (Not a good one, admittedly ! )
Title: Re: Evan Celyn Rowlands (b c 1905)
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 06 June 11 08:20 BST (UK)
New members usually need 3 posts to use PM system so Martin may not have received your message.
Title: Re: Evan Celyn Rowlands (b c 1905)
Post by: inneraxe100 on Tuesday 07 June 11 14:41 BST (UK)
Hi Huwcyn, Thanks for your PM as the moderator has said I can't send PM's yet. Yes the chap you mention is my dear old Dad, I thought he had probably spoken to you already.

I've found a bit more about great Uncle Evan, he was awarded the MBE at the end of the second world war for his services. Our Evan died in 1989, I'm now on the hunt for any information on Ellis Celyn Rowlands, he commited suicide in 1958, in Four Acre wood Epsom, not much is known about him, he too served in the second world war in as far flung places as Libya, Iraq and Eygpt. Dad can't find anything about him so I'm having a look too.
I'm trying to find out more information on his suicide, I've contacted the local Epsom history society to see if they can find anything in their records, newspaper cuttings, etc.
If anyone has any other bright ideas on where I could hunt out any info on either his military records or his death that would be most helpful. I'm new to this and therefore probably going about it in a very different way, although Dad says this may not be a bad thing.

Thanks in advance martin
Title: Re: Evan Celyn Rowlands (b c 1905)
Post by: Huwcyn on Tuesday 07 June 11 16:53 BST (UK)
I think you can join 'Ancestry' and get war records etc.
Title: Re: Evan Celyn Rowlands (b c 1905)
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 07 June 11 17:22 BST (UK)
Not all service records survive (only about 30% of WWI ones still exist). Many libraries have access to Ancestry Library Edition on site so it's worth checking with your local library to see what might be available.
Title: Re: Evan Celyn Rowlands (b c 1905)
Post by: inneraxe100 on Tuesday 07 June 11 17:30 BST (UK)
I had a good bit of advise which I'm sure you folks already know about but thought I'd pass it on just in case its of use. As my great uncle had committed suicide ther would have been a coroners inquest, so I'm talking to the local coroner at the moment to see if I can get a copy of the records. It may prove to be a dead end (excuse the pun) but it was something that didn't spring to mind straight away as an avenue to research.

I'll keep you all posted, Dad is going for the Military side of things and I'm attcking the problem from the coroner/NHS so eventually we'll get some info?? I hope.

Kind regards

martin
Title: Re: Evan Celyn Rowlands (b c 1905)
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 07 June 11 18:35 BST (UK)
If the Coroner's records aren't available it's worth trying the local newspapers- such inquests were widely reported in great details and often list things like relationship to witnesses.
Title: Re: Evan Celyn Rowlands (b c 1905)
Post by: villepastour on Friday 04 August 17 11:23 BST (UK)
Hello all, I am a scholar at Cardiff University specializing in Yoruba music and just googled Evan Celyn Rowlands for an article I am writing. Indeed he wrote Teach Yourself Yoruba and was a serious linguist, though I don't know anything about him and was intrigued to learn that he was Welsh. The person that may know something about Rowland's education and life (or may be able to refer on) is my old Yoruba teacher, linguist Akin Oyetade at SOAS, London. I will drop him an email and let you know if I find any detail. Amanda