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GEORGE HUGGAN was born c1824 in Jedburgh Rox.Scot.Need his birth date!!
He married Jemima Rae in 1846 in Hawick,Rox.Scot..I think that she might have been born either in Wilton or Hawick c 1827.
They had 8 known children born between 1848 and 1869.The last child was Andrew SWAN Huggan.born 1869 in Hawick.
I believe that his "SWAN" name was either his father's mothers maiden name or his mothers mothers maiden name.
Does anyone have a clue on this?Are you researching this family?
One boy,George Huggan born 1855 married Elizabeth Richardson in 1879.
In 1855 this family lived at 37 Back Row,Hawick.
I would very much like to contact further descendent's of this family.
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Hi there,
28 Dec 1846
HUGGAN GEORGE
JEMIMA RAE
FR1467
Hawick
Reference Number - 789/00 0006
Found George's Death Cert but so far no luck on the birth cert do you want the info on it...
the Swan connection is his Mother.... Catherine Huggan nee Swan
Best wishes
Mo
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Mo,
WOW....I am impressed with your the quick response.!!!
Many thanks...and..yes I will take anything that comes my way.
Every tid-bit helps.
I did figure it had to be a maiden name,but,not sure which parents mother..now I know.
I already have put it in my records.
Many thanks.
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Here are the details from the death cert
George Huggan ( Frame Work Knitter) widower of Janette Rae died October 21 1895 in Hawick
Father Thomas Huggan Hotel Keeper
Mother Catherine Huggan nee Swan
Age 70 Cause of death was listed as Epilepsy for one day
Death registered by Thomas Huggan his son
Best wishes
Mo
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Also found them in the 1871 census
George aged 47
jemima aged 44
Catherine aged 18
George aged 15
James aged 13
Jemima aged 10
John aged 7
Andrew Swan aged 2
and also found the following:-
Jemima Huggan nee Rae died September 9th 1894 aged 66 the daughter of John Rae Wool Spinner and Margaret Rae nee Cunning.
Cause of death was Chronic Bronchitis for one month.
Death was registered by Andrew Swan Huggan son
best wishes
Mo
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More thanks again to you Mo.That 1871 census was the only one I did not have in my records,had the 51',61'81', and 91'.
So that will fill in that blank spot.
George and Jemima had a son,James,and he married an Elizabeth Richardson.Elizabeth was the daughter of my gr gr grandparents.(John Richardson and Harriot Miller)
I have a picture of Harriot with her dau Elizabeth, and gr dau, and a grand child.
I am hoping to share this with a family member down the other branch of the tree.
Again,many thanks.
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Hello,
Your GEORGE HUGGAN married JEMIMA RAE in Hawick, Roxburghshire on 28 Dec 1846.
I believe your GEORGE HUGGAN had a brother, THOMAS HUGGAN, who married ELIZABETH STEVENSON. I believe Thomas and Elizabeth had a daughter, CATHERINE HUGGAN, who married, ROBERT SMELLIE LITTLE. Catherine and Robert are my great grandparents.
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Hi Robert,Ann here.Do you still have my email address.?Do you remember I might have spoke of a 4 generation picture,well I am a step closer to Id all members.
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Hi there, I am also researching this Huggan family,Thomas Huggan and Catherine Swan had 9 children,
Elisabeth born approx 1814,married Francis Allan,children unknown.
William born approx 1816 married Janet Scott,4 children,he died 1896.
Janet born approx 1819,married James Clark,1846,5 children,31 grandchildren,she died 1893,my branch.
Andrew born 1821 married Elizabeth Hogg,1880.he died 1902.Chelsea pensioner,
George born 1824 married Jemima Rae,1846.8 children.
Thomas born 1827 married Elizabeth Stevenson,1846.10 children,he died 1901.
John born 1829 married Agnes Brown,1854,5 children,he died 1868.
Catherine born 1831 married James Murray,1852,emigrated to Australia.
James born 1833 married Isabella Howieson,1854,10 children?,he died 1896.
If any of you would like details I am happy to share, at the moment I am trying to I.D. the Huggans from the 1901 census,Hawick and Wilton.
The children of Thomas and Catherine all appear to be born Jedburgh,most of the family are in Hawick by 1841,
Amanda.
Ontario,
Canada.
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Amanda,
It would appear we are cousins! I am very interested in sharing our finds. I sent you a personal message and hope to hear from you soon.
Rose
Orlando, Florida
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Hi there, I am one of the descendents of the Huggan line through George Huggan (1824) and Jemima Rae (1827) who were my GGG Grandparents. Happy to share any information
GEORGE HUGGAN was born c1824 in Jedburgh Rox.Scot.Need his birth date!!
He married Jemima Rae in 1846 in Hawick,Rox.Scot..I think that she might have been born either in Wilton or Hawick c 1827.
They had 8 known children born between 1848 and 1869.The last child was Andrew SWAN Huggan.born 1869 in Hawick.
I believe that his "SWAN" name was either his father's mothers maiden name or his mothers mothers maiden name.
Does anyone have a clue on this?Are you researching this family?
One boy,George Huggan born 1855 married Elizabeth Richardson in 1879.
In 1855 this family lived at 37 Back Row,Hawick.
I would very much like to contact further descendent's of this family.
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Hi there, I just joined rootschat & read your posting about 1871 listing for Huggans. I searched on ancestry and came up with a slightly different listing for the entry:
George aged 47
jemima aged 44
Catherine aged 18
George aged 15
James aged 13
Isabella aged 10
Peter aged 9
Andrew Gray aged 2
living at Green Terrace Hawick
Do you have a copy of the original and do you think this has just been wrongly transcribed?
Also found them in the 1871 census
George aged 47
jemima aged 44
Catherine aged 18
George aged 15
James aged 13
Jemima aged 10
John aged 7
Andrew Swan aged 2
and also found the following:-
Jemima Huggan nee Rae died September 9th 1894 aged 66 the daughter of John Rae Wool Spinner and Margaret Rae nee Cunning.
Cause of death was Chronic Bronchitis for one month.
Death was registered by Andrew Swan Huggan son
best wishes
Mo
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George Huggan was born c 1824 in Jedburgh to
.... Jemima Rae and George Huggan.
He was the son of Katherine Swan and Thomas Huggan.
She was the dau of Margaret Cumming and John Rae.
They had 8 known children ..
...paper trail of census 1851 to 1891.
Margaret 1848
Thomas 1850
Catherine 1853
George 1855 (magic year..have cert)
James 1860...(my line)
Jemima 1860
John 1863
Andrew Swan 1869.
Margaret married a Willison
Thomas married a Stringer
James married a Richardson (my line)
John married a Turner
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I can also add;
George born 1855 married Helen Pettigrew 31st dec 1874,
Jemima born 1860 married George McArthur 31st dec 1887,
Andrew Swan Huggan born 1869 married Elizabeth Middlemass 8th Oct 1896.
from the family of James Huggan and Elizabeth Richardson married 1878 I can add;
dau Harriet Miller Huggan married James Riddell 15th dec 1899,Hawick,
son George Huggan married Mary Tearney 27th Jan 1905,
son Andrew Richardson Huggan married Mary Drummond Davidson 25th June 1915.
I would say the 1871 entry on Ancestry has been wrongly transcribed,
which branch are you connected to?
Amanda.
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Amanda.Many thanks for your reply..there was some stuff I did not have and I thank you for that...I changed the print to show you what I did not have.
George born 1855 married Helen Pettigrew 31st dec 1874,Jemima born 1860 married George McArthur 31st dec 1887,
Andrew Swan Huggan born 1869 married Elizabeth Middlemass 8th Oct 1896.
Jemima Rae Huggan Married George McArthur and they moved up to Edinburgh where he was born and went on to have 7 known children...Both he and Jemima are buried there..have tombstone photo.
James Huggan and Elizabeth Richardson are my line.
Elizabeth was my Great grandmothers (Margaret)sister
Elizabeth and James Huggan had 6 known children and Herriot Miller Huggan marr James Riddell in 1899 in Hawick...I have only found 2 children born to Herriot and James Riddell...John 1900 and died in Apr1902 then Elizabeth Richardson Riddell born Apr 1902
Would love to find any desc of this line...I have a terrific 4 generation photo that would be so nice to share..
from the family of James Huggan and Elizabeth Richardson married 1878 I can add;
dau Harriet Miller Huggan married James Riddell 15th dec 1899,Hawick,
son George Huggan married Mary Tearney 27th Jan 1905,son Andrew Richardson Huggan married Mary Drummond Davidson 25th June 1915.
Need to go...work to do....!!!!
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Hi, thank you for your replies, you have given me information I didn't have regarding the siblings of George Huggan (1855). George and Jemima were my great great grandparents. My maiden name was Huggan, but my Father moved south in his 20's. I have traced the tree as far back as William Huggan & Elizabeth Turnbull (both born c1739). Nicky
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Ah -ha...
I too have Thomas Huggan
Chr Apr 5 1785 in Jedburgh who married Katherine Swan
..1 step back to..
William Huggan born c 1740
married
Elizabeth Turnbull Born c 1740
They married Dec 15 1764 in Ancrum Rox Scot.....
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Amanda......What Huggan line are you related from ?
....I have a fair amount of gathered stuff..willing to share...
.....Have you run into the Drinkwater line yet?
.....Finally figured out Andrew Huggan 1821-1902 line,....interesting...it's a HOGG conection
Drop a note !!
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Amanda - I see you are in Ontario. I have been researching the Huggan line that immigrated to Huron County. Have you done any research on them?
I can also add;
George born 1855 married Helen Pettigrew 31st dec 1874,
Jemima born 1860 married George McArthur 31st dec 1887,
Andrew Swan Huggan born 1869 married Elizabeth Middlemass 8th Oct 1896.
from the family of James Huggan and Elizabeth Richardson married 1878 I can add;
dau Harriet Miller Huggan married James Riddell 15th dec 1899,Hawick,
son George Huggan married Mary Tearney 27th Jan 1905,
son Andrew Richardson Huggan married Mary Drummond Davidson 25th June 1915.
I would say the 1871 entry on Ancestry has been wrongly transcribed,
which branch are you connected to?
Amanda.
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Hi, I'm new to all this just did a web search and found the thread... I too have got back as far as Elizabeth Turnbull and William Huggan - my connection is that Thomas and Catherine had a son John (b 1828) who married Agnes brown in 1854 - my GGG Grandparents, one of their children Helen (aka Nellie b 1860) married James Jeffrey they had a daughter Agnes who was my G Grandmother. Have lots of dates and copies of most death certificates - also have some headstone transcripts from Wellogate and Oxnam cemetries where some of the HUggans are buried - am happy to e-mail to anyone interested... I think I also have William Huggan's Grandfather's death date but am trying to verify this.
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Welcome Mazzy...There are a few of us trolling for HUGGAN's.
What I have on James Jeffrey and Helen Huggan is as follows:
James Jeffrey born c 1858..marr Oct 31 1885 in Hawick to Helen Huggan born Sep 25 1860 in Hawick,dau of Agnes Brown and John Huggan.
6 Known children:
Agnes c 1887 Scot
John c1890 Scot
James 1891 Northumberland Eng
Thomas c 1896 Northumberland Eng
William c 1898 Northumberland Eng
Alexander Northumberland Eng.
Pleas feel free to correct or add to any of this info..
Do you know where James 1858 was born and his parents?
Be happy to know who Agnes marr.
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James Jeffrey was born c 1854 in Kelso - I don't have a date yet but hoping to visit the local Records office next time I am 'Up North' - unless my mum gets there first!!! His parents were James Jeffrey and Agnes - unfortunately her name is too difficult to read... His father James was also a tailor and he died before the marriage in 1885 - the date on the marriage cert is Dec 31st 1885. My Great Grandmother Agnes Jeffrey (daughter of James and Helen Huggan) married John Sinton 3rd April 1909 - their first child was born on 5th April 1909 so they cut it fine..lol... she died in first qtr 1956 (currently waiting for her death certificate to arrive). Will try to post more info after school run!!!!
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Amanda - I got your personal message but can't figure out who to reply to it directly. Please contact me privately at (*).
The Huggans who came to Huron County are a different line descending from Andrew Huggan, b 1767, Crailing, and his wife Isabella Robson. Their grandson, Andrew, b. 1838, England, married Mary Rutherford. After Mary's death Andrew & his children left Wilton and immigrated to Canada - to Wingham in Huron County. I live about 40 minutes from there.
Haven't been able to link this line with the William Huggan/Betty Turnbull line as there is little easy access to records in the 1700s.
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Hi Ann,
my branch is from Thomas and Catherine's dau Janet who married James Clark,their son Thomas Huggan Clark married Isabella Smith in Hawick,Dec 25th 1874, their dau Janet Clark born 1st Sept 1887 married James Dodds 5th June 1914,Prestonpans.
Have not come across any Drinkwaters yet,
Amanda
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Re the marriage in 1874 of George HUGGAN and Helen PETTIGREW, she came from a family of Ulster Presbyterians who arrived in Hawick from the Belfast area in the late 1830s. Her parents were Archibald PETTIGREW, woollen stockingmaker in Wilton, and Isabella MILLER. Helen's aunt Agnes PETTIGREW was my great-great-grandmother. She married James STEWART, another stockingmaker in Wilton.
Helen PETTIGREW's nephew John Millar PETTIGREW became managing director of Peter Scott, who are still in business in Hawick, manufacturing sought-after cashmere garments.
Archibald and Agnes had a sister called Sarah PETTIGREW who married James RICHARDSON (from Co. Antrim, not a Hawick RICHARDSON!), and another sister called Jane PETTIGREW who married James BLACKIE or BLAIKIE, yet another stockingmaker. They moved to Glasgow although Jane ended her days in Drumlanrig Square, Hawick.
The eldest of the PETTIGREW siblings, Daniel, married Abigail HAMILTON from Northern Ireland in 1835 and they moved to Beith, Ayrshire, where he was a master stockingmaker employing several men.
Harry
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Hi
George Huggan & Helen Pettigrew were my gg grandparents. I'm very interested in the Pettigrew line.Reading some of your posts I noted that you mention sisters of Archibald whom I knew nothing about. Any information you could share would be very much appreciated.
Rx
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Hi rubyx! Sorry not to have answered before, but my wife and I just got back this afternoon from a week's holiday in Spain, so I'm catching up with 22 emails.
I've put my Pettigrew researches, stretching back about 30 years, into an rtf doc. on this computer, and I also have a Pettigrew family-tree sent me by Bruce McCartney, who is descended from John Millar Pettigrew, brother of your Helen who married Geo. Huggan. If you want to email me at (*) I will send you these docs. as attachments.
Always glad to meet another cousin!
Harry
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Rubyx, are you still checking out this forum? I have Pettigrew material to forward to you, but as you can see from the Moderator's comments on the above post, we both need to post at least three messages before we can use the Personal Message (PM) system to communicate privately - we're not allowed to exchange email addresses in public here - and it seems you have only posted one message so far. So unless you have more comments or queries to post here, I can't communicate with you, and I have far too much material to post on this forum.
Harry
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Hi Harry
Just came back from holiday myself this evening, which is why I haven't replied. Very interested in your posts but as you say I'll need to post one more message then we'll be able to contact each other by Pm
Rubyx
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This is interesting! Helen (Pettigrew) Huggan was my GG Aunt. Maybe we ought to start a Pettigrew in Hawick topic???
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Sounds good to me!
Harry
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Hi Walter
Pettigrews in Hawick sounds good to me. Which line are you from.
Rubyx
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Well, Moderator, I'm going to need some help to access the PM facility, because when I tried the web address given above, all I got was several useful links to remedies for pre-menstrual tension (PMS).
Harry
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James Jeffrey was born c 1854 in Kelso - I don't have a date yet but hoping to visit the local Records office next time I am 'Up North' - unless my mum gets there first!!! His parents were James Jeffrey and Agnes - unfortunately her name is too difficult to read... His father James was also a tailor and he died before the marriage in 1885 - the date on the marriage cert is Dec 31st 1885. My Great Grandmother Agnes Jeffrey (daughter of James and Helen Huggan) married John Sinton 3rd April 1909 - their first child was born on 5th April 1909 so they cut it fine..lol... she died in first qtr 1956 (currently waiting for her death certificate to arrive). Will try to post more info after school run!!!!
I've started a SINTON/JEFFREY topic to continue the SINTON aspect of this conversation, I hope it can be found at
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,411753.msg2786351.html#msg2786351
as I'd love to hear more about the SINTON side of this family.
Regards
Lorna
Administrator of the SINTON Surname DNA Project
http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/sinton
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Well, Moderator, I'm going to need some help to access the PM facility, because when I tried the web address given above, all I got was several useful links to remedies for pre-menstrual tension (PMS).
Harry
Hi Harry,
I'm sure the pms hints came in most useful for you!
Try clicking (in the lh panel) on the underlined name/log on id of the person you want to send a message too
You will be taken to their profile, and one of the options at the bottom is "send a personal message to this person).
Of course it may not be there until they've done the 3 postings referred too, but yours is, I tried it.
Regards,
Cuz Lorna
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Thanks, Lorna, we did actually manage to make contact in the end.
Harry
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Hi Amanda
You seem to have loads of info on this family. I've only just started looking but wondered if you had any information on Andrew Clark born 1890 - son of Thomas Huggan Clark and Isabella (Smith)? Although the whole family going back generations appear to have been Wool Frame Work Knitters, I believe Andrew ended up as a pork butcher in Hawick in the 1920's if not before and after. Any info you have would be extremely useful.
Thanks
Sue
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Sorry, my real interest is in the PETTIGREWS of Hawick (one of them married a HUGGAN).
Harry
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Oops, sorry, Sue, I've just realised your query was addressed to Amanda.
Harry (not Amanda)
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I've been reading in the sports pages of today's "Scotsman" about the young men of London Scottish rugby football team who were killed in WWI. One of them was a James L. HUGGAN, who was killed in France in 1914, aged 25. He had scored a try in the last Scotland v. England rugby international in Edinburgh.
I've checked Scotlandspeople, and he looks like James Laidlaw HUGGAN, born in 1888 at Allery(?), Jedburgh, to Robert HUGGAN, engineer & millwright, and his wife Isabella Broomfield LAIDLAW. This couple were married in 1880 at Duns, Berwickshire.
Harry
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Hi Amanda
You seem to have loads of info on this family. I've only just started looking but wondered if you had any information on Andrew Clark born 1890 - son of Thomas Huggan Clark and Isabella (Smith)? Although the whole family going back generations appear to have been Wool Frame Work Knitters, I believe Andrew ended up as a pork butcher in Hawick in the 1920's if not before and after. Any info you have would be extremely useful.
Thanks
Sue
Hi Sue, I do have quite a bit of info on the Clark family, I will look through my file this week and get back to you,
Amanda
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Thanks Amanda
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Hi Sue,
I have found the marriage of Andrew Clark,son of Thomas Clark and Isabella Smith, Andrew is the younger brother of my ggrandmother Janet Clark she was born 1st Aug 1887
Andrew married Helen Brown at Hawick on 31st Dec 1920,he gave his age as 32yrs,
have not researched their children, suggest we start a new topic for the Clark family?
most of my Clark info is between 1841-1900.
Thomas and Isabella Smith had 7 children,James,Adam,Thomas,William,Isabella,Janet and Andrew.
Amanda.
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Hi, I am researching my Huggan line, and would love to connect with anyone else interested. I'm related to George Huggan & Jemima Rae, through their son John, b 1864.
Thanks, Rebecca
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I can tell you that George Huggan and Jemima Rae also had a son called George Huggan who was married in 1874 to Helen Pettigrew. Helen was a cousin of my great-grandmother Martha Stewart.
Harry
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NR99,
My connection to George Huggan (1824-1895) & Jemima Rae (1827-1894) are through their 5th child ,James (1855-1894).
George & Jemima had 8 known children.
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NR99
Hi again,
I also see that John Huggan (1863-1941) & his wife Isabelle Turner (1861-1930) had 3 children at least I have only found 3 so far.
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Thank you both! As far as I know, John Huggan & Isabella Turner did only have 3 children – Jemima Rae Telfer (nee Huggan), Isabella Elliot Ballantyne (nee Huggan) & George Huggan – and I've got an old photo of the 3 as children, so it's great to find out more details about their heritage. There seems to be a few Jemima Rae Huggans, as it was 3rd time lucky on the correct birth cert. Happy to share if the other certs are of use to anyone.
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Hello! I'm a descendant of the Huggans. My great grandmother is Jemima Rae Huggan. My great great grandmother is Mary Huggan. Would love to connect with my Scottish heritage to develop my tree and share stories. Mary Huggan is buried in a cemetery in Birtley. Jemima Rae Huggan married name Harrison is buried in Saltwell Cemetry. Look forward to hearing from you 😀