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Hi all
Please can somebody help me if possible as I have hit a brick wall.
I am trying to trace the marriage record of my great grandma and grandad, William Blease and Annie Evans. William was born about 1854 and died in 1909. I have not been able to even find the birth record of Annie Evans but know that she died in 1943 after getting married a second time to a Mr Smith.
The couple lived in Northwich, Cheshire but I dont even know where they were born. I have really struggled with this which is why I am desperate for help.
Thanks,
Adam.
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P.S - I know Annie's second husband was Harry Smith and that they got married in 1910.
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Hello
There are 2 deaths of a William Blease in 1909:
William Blease age 56 at Northwich in Mar Q (Northwich vol 8a Page 201)
William Henry Blease age 47 at Bucklow in Dec Q (Bucklow vol 8a Page 112)
2 births from FREEBMD:
William Blease born Northwich 1851 (Mar Q) (Northwich vol 19 Page 24)
William Henry Blease born Northwich 1855 in Dec Q (Northwich vol 8a Page 226)
In 1901 census there is a 48 year old general labourer William Blease at Northwich.
Morgan
modified as typed wrong place but correct details
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William Blease died in NORTHWICH, not Nantwich.
In particular it is his marriage to Annie Smith that I am trying to find.
Adam
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according to 1901 census william and annie were born in northwich
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In particular it is his marriage to Annie Smith that I am trying to find.
Adam
sorry Adam, the details were correct, just a typo
the marriage was William Blease and Annie Evans though?
and then Annie Blease to Harry Smith?
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there is this birth
william henry blease
y.o.r. 1855
qtr; oct/nov/dec
dist; northwich
vol; 8a
page; 226
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Yeah, William Blease married Annie Evans.
William died in 1909 in think aged 56 (free bmd) and then Annie married Harry Smith.
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marriage
william blease/annie evans
y.o.r. 1892
qtr; apr/may/jun
dist; northwich
vol; 8a
page; 448
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@woozle
Where have you found that? I have just typed that exact information into free bmd and it says "sorry, we found no matches"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aaaarrrgggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........
Im getting so bogged down! Ha
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there is this birth
william henry blease
y.o.r. 1855
qtr; oct/nov/dec
dist; northwich
vol; 8a
page; 226
If this is my William Blease then the dates dont work out?? On free bmd I am assuming it is he that died in 1909, aged 56. That would make his birth year abhout 1853/ 1854 right??
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Age at death is notified by the person reporting the death so it can be a little bit out from the birth year
I suspect yours is the birth recorded in 1851 (see earlier post)
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@morganllan
If you search that marriage can you also find it? Why can I not get it on free bmd?
william blease/annie evans
y.o.r. 1892
qtr; apr/may/jun
dist; northwich
vol; 8a
page; 448
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Yes, it's Bleaze on the record though
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according to 1901 census william and annie were born in northwich
On thsi census does it say how long they have been married or does it not give it on this one?
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Yes, it's Bleaze on the record though
Do you think it is the same one? What could have caused the incorrect spelling?
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only 1911 census gives how long married no other census gives this info.
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Do you know where you can view the 1911 census for free or do you have to pay?
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Yes, it's Bleaze on the record though
Do you think it is the same one? What could have caused the incorrect spelling?
Yes, I think it's the right one and there's a postem correction on there.
They both show up in 1892 Jun Q but not matched
Try FindMyPast free trial during Weds footie for 1911 access ;)
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Sorry, I dont understand.....
What do you mean they both show up but they are not matched?
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Try the freebmd search and see if you can see the marriage :)
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Oh yeah, I see it with the name of BLEAZE
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1901
Blease family at Northwich
William b1853 age 48 General Labourer
Annie b1871 age 30
George A b1895 age 6
Harry b1897 age 4
Martha H b1899 age 2
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Marriage 1910 (Sep Q)
Annie Blease
Harry Smith
Northwich vol 8a Page 641
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Looks like another child born the same year as William's death:
John William Blease born 1909 (Jun Q)
Northwich vol 8a Page 255
also Albert Henry Blease born 1903 (Mar Q)
Northwich vol 8a Page 254
and Frank Blease born 1906 (Mar Q)
Northwich vol 8a Page 256
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John william blease is my grandad. He had brothers called frank, albert, harry and george and a sister called martha.
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My confusion with where william blease was born comes from older relatives who have passed away saying that he came from bollington/ macclesfied area. This is why im desperate to see on a census where it says he was born
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1901
Blease family at Northwich
William b1853 age 48 General Labourer
Annie b1871 age 30
George A b1895 age 6
Harry b1897 age 4
Martha H b1899 age 2
Based on the birth year given on this census which record o you think i should order?
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It's your decision which one to send for, or you could first send for his marriage certificate from the local RO to give more information such as age, address, father's name and occupation.
By the way, any links to the Blease family of Marston Hall near Northwich, and the Marston salt mine?
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It's your decision which one to send for, or you could first send for his marriage certificate from the local RO to give more information such as age, address, father's name and occupation.
By the way, any links to the Blease family of Marston Hall near Northwich, and the Marston salt mine?
I have no idea about the marston hall and slat mine thing????
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Found a death notice in Liverpool Journal 27th Jan 1849:
10th inst, Mary aged 61, wife of Thomas OWEN of Pickmere only dau the late John BLEASE Marston Hall nr Northwich
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No, dont think that is us.
Never heard anything of that before
Adam
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as promised by p.m
1851
HO107/2165/330/42
thomas blease age 29. b. marston,cheshire. occ. waggoner labourer. head
sarah age 23. b. witton. wife
alice age 3. b. witton. daughter
william age 3mnths. b. witton. son
james dachel age 50. b. davenham. father in law.(there is a member submitted entry that says the surname should be dodd not dachel and looking at the image it does look like dodd))
living at; cock pit field
civil parish; witton cum twanbrooks
ecclesiastical parish; great budworth
reg.dist; northwich
county; cheshire
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really think you need to get the marr cert of william blease and annie evans to verify this 1851 census is the right person
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thanks woozle
your a star!
If you were me would you order the birth certificate saying 1851 for william then?
Im just confused with the death thing saying dies in 1909 aged 56
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so the marriage certificate would give the fathers name and then if its right we could match it up to the 1851 census right?
what do u think happened with that spelling of blease becoming bleaze on the marriage record? did it happen alot?
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if i was you i would get the marr cert first
if that states fathers name thomas
i would then get the birth cert for the 1851 william
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My confusion with where william blease was born comes from older relatives who have passed away saying that he came from bollington/ macclesfied area. This is why im desperate to see on a census where it says he was born
Adam, perhaps his birthplace is wrong on 1901 census.
Here's 1881 Blease family at Ormes Smithy (Cottage), Rainow, Macclesfield:
George Head Age 63 Born Old Withington, Cheshire Blacksmith
Rachel Wife Age 61 Born Stokeash, Stafford
William Son Age 27 Born Bollington, Cheshire Cotton Winder
Thomas Son Age 22 Born Rainow, Cheshire Cotton Winder
Martha Ann HOLT Daur Age 19 Born Rainow Card Room Hand Cotton
Tom HOLT Grand Son Age 5 m Born Rainow, Cheshire
RG11 3490 / 21 Page 17
This seems probable given that he had children named George and Martha, but William's marriage certificate will confirm or disprove.
Morgan
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BMD
Birth
William Blease 1853 Macclesfield Vol 8a Page 119
this fits with 1881 census and your family story
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that's put the cat among the pigeons morgan
over to you adam
you definitely need that marriage cert
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Found a death notice in Liverpool Journal 27th Jan 1849:
10th inst, Mary aged 61, wife of Thomas OWEN of Pickmere only dau the late John BLEASE Marston Hall nr Northwich
Morgan, this is my Blease family - Thomas Owen and Mary Blease are my 3xggrandparents and John Blease (Mary's father) farmed at Marston Hall. If you are connected, or have any more information please send me a PM so that we don't hijack Adam's post!
Adam, spelling can vary hugely. I've come across Blease, Bleaze, Bleeze, Bleese, Blees and even Blaize. If all the other information matches what you know and the name is fairly unusual I think you can be pretty confident it is the right marriage.
Jean
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Jean
I'm not connected but just trying to help Adam identify his ancestors :)
As you say, it is a fairly unusual surname so there could be a connection somewhere between your ancestors and Adam's.
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I have just been on Cheshire bmd and the marriage that was found of william bleaze (spelt with a 'z') and annie evans is listed as william blease (correct spelling) on cheshire bmd.
Does anybody know if the records are transcribed from a different source, ie - church records?
Im just confused as to why they are spelt differently?