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Title: Copper Arms Lockwood
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 09 July 10 10:29 BST (UK)
I have this address on a census in Barton Road and am wondering if anyone local knows if it still exists please.
Doesn't seem to come up on a simple search, could be Coopers Arms?
Occupation was beer house keeper and woollen dyer.
Thanks for any info  :)
Title: Re: Copper Arms Lockwood
Post by: dobfarm on Friday 09 July 10 14:43 BST (UK)
Hi There.

Barton road is at Crossland moor Huddersfield above Lockwood which was part of Lockwood CENSUS AREA as for the Croppers arms there is a pub in May street Crosland moor and I think it was its old name but it sounds familiar as it still could be. The rivers Colne and Holme join at Folly Hall and Rashcliffe hill starts there that goes up to Crossland moor flat fields (Then) between the Colne (Milnsbridge) and Holme valleys (Lockwood)

You can find Barton Road and May Street on the Google Map

Hope it helps

Dave

Title: Re: Copper Arms Lockwood
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 09 July 10 15:03 BST (UK)
Thanks Dave but Barton Road doesn't come up for me at all, all I get as an alternative is Barton Manor Close which is all new houses.
May Street comes up but I can't see a pub on there.  Maybe I am in the wrong area but it says Huddersfield ???

What did you type in on the google woogle map?
Title: Re: Copper Arms Lockwood
Post by: dobfarm on Friday 09 July 10 15:21 BST (UK)
As I said Crosland moor flat fields before the new houses and would have been a farm track road- you need the old maps website -enter crosland moor
alternate contact The Huddersfield library as they do free 1/2 look ups -their website is on the web/net.
Title: Re: Copper Arms Lockwood
Post by: Sunlaws on Friday 09 July 10 18:06 BST (UK)
Hi
Brian Clarke in his 'History of Lockwood and North Crosland' says that from its opening in 1834 to 1885, the present day Craven Heifer was called the Croppers' Arms. He says it was owned by the Hanson family of Starling End, and various members of the family were also licensees. Ownership passed to Bentley & Shaw around 1898.
Address of the Craven Heifer is Blackmoorfoot Rd, Crosland Moor, HD4 5RE.

regards,

Lesley
Title: Re: Copper Arms Lockwood
Post by: dobfarm on Friday 09 July 10 18:19 BST (UK)
Hi Lesley

Great find !

I think the best person who would be able to help 'Millie' is Steve Whitwam founder of the Huddersfield family history society also a expert on Lockwood ancestry.

His email is on his website link.

http://www.whitwam.freeserve.co.uk/

Best of luck with your own ancestry

Dave
Title: Re: Copper Arms Lockwood
Post by: dobfarm on Friday 09 July 10 18:39 BST (UK)
from Steve Whatwam website
Quote;-

Private WILLIE BEAUMONT (23), Machine Gun Corps, of 35, Barton Road, Crosland Moor, killed in action in France, October 9th, 1917.

http://www.whitwam.co.uk/war.htm

half way down the page
Title: Re: Copper Arms Lockwood
Post by: J.R.Ellam on Saturday 10 July 10 14:47 BST (UK)
Barton road was in Crosland Moor and from what I can ascertain from old maps it is know part of Blackmoorfoot Road and if you look at a map and see the hospital, which was the old Workhouse and part of which is called the Barton Centre.
There was also a Barton Road School which to the bottom and front of the Hospital where the grass is.
Had a look in David Green's book Huddersfield Pubs and the Croppers Arms was on Barton Road and it was renamed the Craven Heifer in about 1870 and I think that pub is still around.

John
Title: Re: Copper Arms Lockwood
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 10 July 10 16:04 BST (UK)
Thank you all for the replies.

It was Allen Hanson on the census entry I have from1881 with the name shown as Copper Arms.
Craven Heifer what a fabulour name!

Don't mention Steve Whitwam. I have sent him several e-mails and not had a single reply  :-X
Title: Re: Copper Arms Lockwood
Post by: fringe on Friday 10 November 17 12:31 GMT (UK)
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Huddersfield/
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=53.6355&lon=-1.8108&layers=6&right=BingHyb

Take a look at the websites.  It shows quite clearly that the original workhouse stood off Nabcroft Lane where David Browns Gear Works now is.  However, the OS Map from 1888-1913 shows a much larger one on Barton Road at the back of what I know as St Lukes hospital.  When Barton Road became Blackmoorfoot Road I have no idea, but clearly it did.  The Craven Heifer mentioned by others is actually on Blackmoorfoot Road near the junction with Nabcroft Lane.  On Google Earth it is right by the bus stop. 
Title: Re: Copper Arms Lockwood
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 10 November 17 21:57 GMT (UK)
Thank you.  I was actually there in September on holiday and saw the bus stop outside.
Have to say the place looks a bit of a dive  :-X