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Title: John Thomas- Kendal Mayor 1916-1919
Post by: GemMcMan on Friday 09 July 10 23:52 BST (UK)
Hi all,
i am trying to find information on John Thomas, he was the mayor of Kendal from 1916-1919 and his lady mayoress was his niece Grace Williams,

When John Thomas died he left all his wealth to Kendal to buy cottages/ Alms housing, and money to Kendal hospital to buy beds

I cant find anything through Google, any Help or Information would be useful!!
thankyou

gemma
Title: Re: John Thomas- Kendal Mayor 1916-1919
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 10 July 10 00:53 BST (UK)
Kendal is Westmorland - not Cumberland so I'll ask the moderator to move it

When and where was he born?

Who were his wife/children

When did he die

The 1911 index only has one entry for that name in Kendal - John H Thomas but he was only 22 which seems a bit young to become Mayor only 5yrs later

This link shows him as John John Thomas which seems strange

http://www.kendaltowncouncil.gov.uk/images/downloads/mayors%20of%20kendal%20since%201575.pdf
Title: Re: John Thomas- Kendal Mayor 1916-1919
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 10 July 10 01:10 BST (UK)
There is this possible 1901 entry

Hawthorn Villas Kendal

John J Thomas 39 unmarried b Caernarvon ? Llanwnda - mining engineer - slate quarries - employer

RG13 Piece 4913 Folio 131 Page 39
Title: Re: John Thomas- Kendal Mayor 1916-1919
Post by: arharris on Wednesday 12 September 12 22:02 BST (UK)
I am a great niece of John Thomas, born in Rhostryfan near Caernarvon.  His sister, Grace , was my grandmother and his niece, Grace Williams , was my mother. I have more information about his sister's family, which may be helpful and would be interested in additional information.
His sister Grace, married Owen Williams and they had 10 children, one died as a child. They lived in Llangefni, Anglesey.
Title: Re: John Thomas- Kendal Mayor 1916-1919
Post by: Jos, Whitehaven on Thursday 13 September 12 19:56 BST (UK)
Kendal is Westmorland - not Cumberland so I'll ask the moderator to move it.
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Carole,

You are correct about Kendal being in the county of Westmorland prior to 1974, when it became part of the new county of Cumbria.

As you also state, this thread would be better being moved to the Westmorland section. Those with specialist knowledge of the old county of Westmorland will be more likely to pick up the thread.
Title: Re: John Thomas- Kendal Mayor 1916-1919
Post by: arharris on Thursday 13 September 12 20:09 BST (UK)
The family story is that John Thomas left North Wales as a teenager. His father was a slate quarryman and they lived  (a family of about 8) in a small cottage in Rhostryfan. He presumably went to work in the slate quarries of Westmoreland and ended up owning a few. He never married apparently. I don't think my mother could have been his lady mayoress as she was only born in 1912. her mother, John's sister, was also Grace Williams when she married.
Title: Re: John Thomas- Kendal Mayor 1916-1919
Post by: Jos, Whitehaven on Thursday 13 September 12 20:52 BST (UK)
As John Thomas was Mayor for 3 consecutive terms during WW1 there should be a lot of information in the 'Westmorland Gazette' from the time. I would guess the Mayor-making ceremony report in the newspaper would confirm which family member was his Mayoress.

Ideally, you could do with someone who is able to visit the Kendal Archives Office of Cumbria County Council to look this up for you. Your chances of this would be improved if this thread was moved by the Moderators to its correct county of the time (Westmorland).

If you have not already done so, perhaps you could also try a direct enquiry to Kendal Town Council and see if they have a photograph or other information about John Thomas. This is a link to their website:
http://www.kendaltowncouncil.gov.uk/content/view/21/37/

Good luck!
Title: Re: John Thomas- Kendal Mayor 1916-1919
Post by: arharris on Thursday 13 September 12 21:02 BST (UK)
Thank you. I could always put a visit to Kendal on my to do list. Many thanks,
Title: Re: John Thomas- Kendal Mayor 1916-1919
Post by: clearly on Saturday 15 September 12 23:00 BST (UK)
The Kendal Archive Centre of Cumbria Archive Service holds the following file:

WDY 576
Alderman J J Thomas
Photocopies and laser prints of newspaper cuttings and photographs relating to Alderman J J Thomas (1860-1940), former Mayor of Kendal, Freeman of the Borough, and managing director of Tilberthwaite Green Slate Co. Ltd. 1929-1940. 1 folder

Certainly worth a visit or a phone call I would think.
Title: Re: John Thomas- Kendal Mayor 1916-1919
Post by: arharris on Sunday 16 September 12 10:14 BST (UK)
Thank you! That's extremely helpful. 
Title: Re: John Thomas- Kendal Mayor 1916-1919
Post by: clearly on Sunday 16 September 12 18:07 BST (UK)
It may be worthwhile finding out who the depositor was.  As it contains laser scans, I would imagine that the deposit was fairly recent and that the depositor is either a relative or someone who has done some research on JJT.
Title: Re: John Thomas- Kendal Mayor 1916-1919
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 23 September 12 10:32 BST (UK)
The address on the census matches this information


John John Thomas
of Hawthorn Villa Kendal
died 28th November 1942
probate granted Carlisle to
Harry Bordley Greenwood,solicitor
John Tyldersley Lowe accountant
James Lang Cochrane ,medical practitioner
Thomas Arthur Kerfoot Hughes ,solicitor
effects £34831,0s6d
Title: Re: John Thomas- Kendal Mayor 1916-1919
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 23 September 12 10:44 BST (UK)
In 1891 he is lodging in Kendal and is a mining engineer,
I have all ways found the Kendal archive staff extrely helpfull,a visit is a must for you as this person ,seems to have been a particular out standing person in his adopted community,
Title: Re: John Thomas- Kendal Mayor 1916-1919
Post by: Jos, Whitehaven on Sunday 23 September 12 16:03 BST (UK)
If anyone is able to visit the Kendal Archives of Cumbria County Council perhaps they might be able to look up the 'Westmorland Gazette' archives for the end of November or early December 1942? Given that Mr Thomas was an industrialist, had been involved in the civic life of the town and had been Mayor suring WW1, the local newspaper must surely have devoted a significant amount of space to an obituary, possibly with a photograph?

This request really does need moved to the Westmorland board. It is more likely that anyone who is a regular visitor to the Kendal Archives would be more likely to see it rather than on the Cumberland board. Could the site moderators please consider doing this? 

Good luck with the research!
Title: Re: John Thomas- Kendal Mayor 1916-1919
Post by: arharris on Monday 24 September 12 10:42 BST (UK)
Thanks  to you all for your help.  I am planning to visit Kendal next month and will contact the kendal Archives before I go.
Title: Re: John Thomas- Kendal Mayor 1916-1919
Post by: clearly on Monday 24 September 12 18:59 BST (UK)
When you are at Kendal there is also the Local Studies Library which has quite extensive holdings. See

http://www.cumbriacc.gov.uk/elibrary/Content/Internet/542/827/39692133336.pdf

I think it would be very worthwhile to contact them as well. It's more Kendal based than the Archives.