RootsChat.Com
Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Kirkcudbrightshire => Topic started by: tkgafs on Sunday 11 July 10 20:57 BST (UK)
-
Hello,
perhaps somebody could help me locate a grave or death record for Cunningham Rae born about 1750 - 1755 and his wife Agnes Duncan born about 1752
According to latter day saints they married 12 OCT 1777 Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbright, Scotland.
I have seen a couple of trees online which suggest Agnes Duncan's parents are John Duncan and Isobel Ross, but never any source which confirms it
Agnes was still alive in 1841 but definitely dead by 1858, as both she and Cunningham Rae are listed as deceased on their daughter Catherines death certificate [she married Andrew Beattie]
Cunningham is listed as a Tailor, Catherine was born in 1805 when Agnes must have been in her 50s
They seem to have had the following children
James Rae
William Rae 1775 - 1875
Margaret Rae Abt 1777
Janet Rae Abt 1789 - 1875
Euphemia Rae 1797 - 1864
Catherine Rae 1805 - 1858
William Rae married Margaret McKune and had a son Cunningham Rae born 1811, along with a few others
Euphemia married John Stevenson and also had a son Cunningham along with a few others
in 1841 Agnes was living with William and Margaret in Portmary Rerrick Kirkcudbright, but is not listed on Williams Headstone in Rerrick Cemetery
the headstone has the following inscription
In memory of Margaret McKune, spouse of William Rae, who died at Port Mary, Burnfoot, 9th February 1864, aged 93 years. Also William Rae her husband, who died at Burnfoot, 19th Feb’y 1874, aged 101 years. Also the daughter-in-law Sarah Murtrie, wife of David Rae, who died at Burnfoot, 14th Nov 1881, aged 73 years. The said David Rae, died at Burnfoot, 28th Dec 1891, aged 88 years. Also Margaret Hope Rae, daughter of the said William Rae, who died at Burnfoot, 2nd June 1903, aged 93 years. Also Elizabeth Rae, died at Dalbeattie, 26th August 1915, aged 72 years. “They rest from their labours”.
Any help gratefully reecived
Tkgafs
-
Hi and Welcome to Rootschat :)
Cunningham Rae was 'of Rerrick' at their banns/mariage in 1777.
If no one has checked by tomorrow, I'll have a look at my MIs tomorrow.
Gadget
-
Wow, thanks for the quick reply.
If you could lookup any MI for them I'd be most grateful
Tkgafs
-
Hi tkgafs and Gadget
Try this website too, you may get an image of the headstone if it exists.
http://www.kirkyards.co.uk/
Wul
-
Hi :)
I can't find anything in the MIs (published or online at www.kirkyards.co.uk) so far and very little in the OPRs :-\
However, I notice that Agnes was aged 78 in the 1841 census - suggesting a birthdate of circa 1763 and William was 60 (so b. c. 1781). Also, William and Margaret are on the 1851 census at Port Mary, Burnfoot with William aged 71 and Margaret aged 73. By 1861, they were 85 and 88, respectively. In 1871, William was 97!
William died on 19th February 1875 (not 1874) , aged 101, according to his death certificate. :-\
Gadget
Hi Wul - your message came through just as I was posting. William's tombstone here:
http://www.kirkyards.co.uk/rerrick/rerrick/12.jpg
However, it is wrong - a year out according to death cert ::)
-
Hi again
I've been looking at the trees that you mentioned. Oh dear, no sources and they have Cunningham dying 1854 and 1855 with parents William Rae and Jean Hume.
I've found no evidence of this information whatsoever :-\
Gadget
-
Gadget,
you have come to the same place as me,
I agree Agnes probably was born around 1763 making her about 14 when she marries Cunningham in 1777 [about the only documented fact in the whole thing], and about 42 when her last child Catherine is born in 1805.
I have presumed people have Cunninghams death as 1854 / 55 simply because there is nothing in the statutory indexes therefore he must have died before 1855, I was hoping someone would know of a gravestone, but it would appear I'm out of luck
I think Cunningham must have died before 1841, or Agnes would not be living her son William and his wife Margaret in Port Mary Burnfoot
I would therefore have assumed she would be on the same headstone as William, but she isnt
She may well be buried with Cunningham but we dont know where
As I said any help gratefully received, but this one may just have to stop here through complete lack of any evidence whatsoever
Tkgafs
-
Hi again
I've been looking at the trees that you mentioned. Oh dear, no sources and they have Cunningham dying 1854 and 1855 with parents William Rae and Jean Hume.
I've found no evidence of this information whatsoever :-\
Gadget
the funny thing is the information must have come from someone somewhere, I think after that other people have just latched onto the tree and used it
Tkgafs
-
William died on 19th February 1875 (not 1874) , aged 101, according to his death certificate. :-\
However, it is wrong - a year out according to death cert ::)
I havent looked at Williams Death Cert yet, do you have a copy and does it list Cunningham and Agnes as his parents
Tkgafs
-
Yes, I have seen a copy and it does list them as his parents :)
-
Just come back to this after a break, but not really any further forward, although I have had one thought as Cunningham was a tailor, which is confirmed from Catherines death cert, then there may be something about him in the minutes of the Kirkcudbright incorporated trade of Tailors.
Does anyone know if these minutes still exist and if so where they may be inspected,
thanks
Tkgafs
-
It would appear that the minutes of the incorporated trades are held in Broughton House in the town
see http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectView.asp?ID=O47942&tabType=ARCHIVE
looks like a visit is required next time I am in the town
Tkgafs
-
Still looking for information about Cunningham Rae and I came across this web page, whilst its clearly not the Cunningham Rae I'm looking for I presume there is some relationship.
http://www.kirkyards.co.uk/historyarticle.asp?ID=112&p=19&g=4 which amongst other stuff has the following comment
Kirkcudbright – Galtway.
The churchyard of Galtway is situated about two miles to the south-east of Kirkcudbright.
......
Longevity.
The greatest age observed is as follows :- “The above Cunningham Rae, died at Crofthead, 29th December 1903, aged 98 years.”
Could anyone help to supply the full MI of this gravestone and find out if there are any more Raes buried there, also where is Crofthead in relation to Kirkcudbright.
As far as I can tell Galtway cemetery seems to be near Banks farm on the Dundrennan road
Tkgafs
-
Still looking for information about Cunningham Rae and I came across this web page, whilst its clearly not the Cunningham Rae I'm looking for I presume there is some relationship.
http://www.kirkyards.co.uk/historyarticle.asp?ID=112&p=19&g=4 which amongst other stuff has the following comment
Kirkcudbright – Galtway.
The churchyard of Galtway is situated about two miles to the south-east of Kirkcudbright.
......
Longevity.
The greatest age observed is as follows :- “The above Cunningham Rae, died at Crofthead, 29th December 1903, aged 98 years.”
Could anyone help to supply the full MI of this gravestone and find out if there are any more Raes buried there, also where is Crofthead in relation to Kirkcudbright.
As far as I can tell Galtway cemetery seems to be near Banks farm on the Dundrennan road
Tkgafs
In case you are still looking..........
The full transcript from the stone is
ERECTED
In Memory of
Grace Logan
Wife of Cunningham Rae who Died at Crofthead,29th Nov,
1895 Aged 69years.
The Above Cunningham Rae
Died at Crofthead 29th
Dec 1903
Aged 98 years.
Rgds Matt
-
A lesson to us all wait a year and all will be revealed !!
thank you very much for the update I am most grateful
Tkgafs
-
I know that this thread is four years old but I am relatively new to this.
I followed the thread and broadly agree with the info except that the Agnes who lived with William and Margaret Rae in Burnfoot of Portmary was only 20 years old in the 1841 census - so surely she is not the Agnes Rae (Duncan) we are looking for?
I have a copy of the death certificate for a Cunningham Rae (which i think is the same one this thread refers to) which lists him as the widower of Grace Logan (Good) died at Crofthead, Kirkcudbright (Good) and was the son of William Rae (Good) and Agnes Rae (nee Duncan) (Not so good). No mention of Margaret McKune.
Are we conflating two different families here or is there another explanation?
-
Hi Michael
Welcome to Rootschat :)
When this popped up, I wondered why I'd got it but I see that I contributed. Notice that I corrected the info about Agnes, very early on:
Gadget
However, I notice that Agnes was aged 78 in the 1841 census - suggesting a birthdate of circa 1763 and William was 60 (so b. c. 1781). Also, William and Margaret are on the 1851 census at Port Mary, Burnfoot with William aged 71 and Margaret aged 73. By 1861, they were 85 and 88, respectively. In 1871, William was 97!
William died on 19th February 1875 (not 1874) , aged 101, according to his death certificate.
Gadget
-
I've just found the entry in my old records ~
-
Here's a snip from William Rae's death cert of 1875 showing his parents as Cunningham Rae and Agnes Duncan.
I'm very pleased that these records didn't get lost in the SP chnge - many of my others did!
-
Im on holiday just now with no access to my records, but from memory there are two Cunningham Raes who seem to get mixed up by researchers the tailor who marries Agnes Duncan and another one who marries Grace Logan.
-
Thanks for the speedy reply.
Has anyone been able to work out which one is which and who belongs to which family? Don't spoil you holiday fretting but if you have any ideas when you get back, I'd be pleased to hear them.
The Cunningham Rae who married Grace Logan seemed to work on Drummond Farm in Kirkcudbright -would I be right about that?
Michael
-
Thanks for your speedy reply.
Does anyone know who this Agnes Duncan is? And who is a member of her family?
Michael
-
Michael ~
What was the date of death of the Cunningham Rae who married Grace Logan, please? And could you give any possible census info on them.
Gadget
-
Just read Matt's info - he put it up much later than the original discussion
In case you are still looking..........
The full transcript from the stone is
ERECTED
In Memory of
Grace Logan
Wife of Cunningham Rae who Died at Crofthead,29th Nov,
1895 Aged 69years.
The Above Cunningham Rae
Died at Crofthead 29th
Dec 1903
Aged 98 years.
Rgds Matt
-
Cunningham Rae (widower of Grace Logan) who died in 1903, aged 98, appears to be the son of William Rae and Agnes Duncan. I think that William could have been entered in error for Cunningham as we have info on Cunningham Rae (the elder) and Agnes Duncan's marriage:
From first post by tkgafs
According to latter day saints they married 12 OCT 1777 Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbright, Scotland.
I have seen a couple of trees online which suggest Agnes Duncan's parents are John Duncan and Isobel Ross, but never any source which confirms it
Also, further info posted earlier on this thread from daughter Catherine's death
I have had one thought as Cunningham was a tailor, which is confirmed from Catherines death cert,
-
Can't find a baptism that fits for Cunninghm (died 1903). This is the nearest -
Rerrick - 9 June 1808 Cunningham Rae s of William Rae and Margaret McCune.
Two marriages are showing for the elder and younger Cunningham ~
Kirkcudbright 12 Oct 1777 to Agnes Duncan
Rerrick 30 Jne 1848 to Grace Logan
No marriages are showing for a William Rae marrying either a Margaret McCune or an Agnes Duncan. However, a high % of marriages are not shown in the available records.
-
Hi, Gadget,
That's about as far as I got. Do you know who provides the data about parents to the Registrar? Is it the informant. If it is, I was just wondering if James Rae, the son who signed for Cunningham's death, could have given his great-grandmother's name rather than his grandmother's name? i.e. he said it was William Rae and Agnes Duncan rather than William Rae and Margaret Rae? Possible?
Michael
-
, I was just wondering if James Rae, the son who signed for Cunningham's death, could have given his great-grandmother's name rather than his grandmother's name?
Michael
I've come across quite a few wrong names for parents on death certs. Often the informant is either a child (i.e 2 generations removed) or othe relative or friend or neighbour, etc. No checks were made.
Do you have the Cunningham (d 1903)'s children's names in birth order - it might give some clues to his parents. William is shown as a labourer on the 1903 death cert.
Gadget
-
I've been trying to make sense of the info on some of the Ancestry trees but they seem a bit confused to me - children born to the earlier Cunningham and Margaret McCune when they were in early teens or Agnes somehow marrying a George Cunningham Rae and a William Rae and so on they went!
It is possible that Margaret died and Cunningham died and William then married Agnes, I suppose but from info, I think that Cunningham and Agnes had a son William, who married Margaret and they had a son Cunningham :-\
Added - Also note this in first post:
Cunningham Rae born about 1750 - 1755 and his wife Agnes Duncan born about 1752
According to latter day saints they married 12 OCT 1777 Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbright, Scotland. [also on SP]
James Rae
William Rae 1775 - 1875
Margaret Rae Abt 1777
Janet Rae Abt 1789 - 1875
Euphemia Rae 1797 - 1864
Catherine Rae 1805 - 1858
William Rae married Margaret McKune and had a son Cunningham Rae born 1811, along with a few others
-
From all the info that I've reviewed today, this is what I think is what happened:
Cunningham Rae m Agnes Duncan (1777). Their son William Rae m Margaret McCune. William and Margaret had a son Cunningham who married Grace Logan and died 1903.
My conjecture - William and Grace's son, James, mixed up his grandmother's name (Margaret) with his great grandmother (Agnes). The registrar might have prompted him for his grandmother's name and he thought it meant his father's grandmother. Thus Agnes got listed on the death cert.
Gadget
-
Hi Gadget,
It sounds good. Also, given this Cunningham, the ploughman married to Grace Logan, gave his age in the 1861 census as 50 which fits with a birthdate of 1811. They were staying in Drummore Cothouse.
In the census of 1841, there is a Cunningham Rae (age 25) working as a manservant for John Barclay at Drummore Farm. Could they be the same Cunningham Rae?
If so, it might mean the Cunningham Rae who died in 1903 was a real Kirkcudbright man. Born in Kirkcudbright?
Michael
-
It sounds good. Also, given this Cunningham, the ploughman married to Grace Logan, gave his age in the 1861 census as 50 which fits with a birthdate of 1811. They were staying in Drummore Cothouse.
In the census of 1841, there is a Cunningham Rae (age 25) working as a manservant for John Barclay at Drummore Farm. Could they be the same Cunningham Rae?
I'd put one of those new £5 notes on it being the same man, Michael. Remember that, in the 1841 census, the ages were rounded to 5 year age groups. In 1841 25 would include those who were between 25 and 29.
Have you been to Kirkcudbright?
Gadget :)
-
Hi, Gadget,
I didn't know that they rounded up the age in years!
I grew up in Kirkcudbright. Spent the first 18 years of my life there. Lived at 39 High Street.
My father worked on Coopers before he joined the Prudential up in New Galloway.
(But I had never heard of Galtway Cemetery and even names like Rerrick are unfamiliar!)
BTW, my musings on Cunningham Rae being from Kirkcudbright are wrong. The census of 1851 says he was born in Rerrick, so it fits with William and Margaret Rae.
Michael
-
I'm interested in Cunningham Rae as his father's sister (assuming it is William) is Euphemia Rae who married John Stevenson. They had a son called Cunningham (b 1818) who married Jane Robinson (or Robertson) and their daughter Elizabeth (b. 1855) married George Robb Houston. My mother is a Houston.
Michael
-
Cunningham is listed as a Tailor, Catherine was born in 1805 when Agnes must have been in her 50s
They seem to have had the following children
James Rae
William Rae 1775 - 1875
Margaret Rae Abt 1777
Janet Rae Abt 1789 - 1875
Euphemia Rae 1797 - 1864
Catherine Rae 1805 - 1858
Euphemia married John Stevenson and also had a son Cunningham along with a few others
So this is your line?
I was over there a few months ago. My mother's line was from the New Galloway/Balmaclellan/Parton area.
Gadget
-
My father collected weekly and monthly premiums for the Prudential in the Kells area for over 25 years. His area ran from Parton in the south to Balmaclellan, Dalry and up to Corsock. I have been able to read some of the less legible names on older documents because I am familiar with the names. I also have an old friend in New Galloway who can help out with more "recent" details. My father's birth mother also lived up at Kendoon for most of her life.
-
Further information on this
There is a small paragraph in the Dundee Evening Post - Wednesday 30 December 1903 under the heading News of the Day stating that
Mr Cunningham Rae, Crofthead Kirkcudbright the oldest person in the district has just died in his 99th year. He was a member of a family whose longevity was somewhat remarkable, his father having reached the patriarchial age of 102 years
-
I'm searching for a birth/baptism for William Rae in Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland about 1851.
William married Isabella Cannell on 5 Jun 1879 in Rushen Isle of Man. Her parents were Thomas Cannell and Elizabeth Costain. On the Isle of Man, Marriage Index, 1606-1984 William's father is transcribed as Cunningham Roe. William died in 1932 in Arbory Isle of Man aged 81 years.
On Isle of Man Censuses 1871 - 1911 his place of Birth was recorded as either Kirkcudbrightshire, Kirkcudbright or Scotland.
I strongly suspect that William's parents were Cunningham Rae (1808 - 1903) and Grace Logan (Abt. 1895 - 1895). William and Isabella's eldest daughter was named Grace Elizabeth Rae and they also has a son Cunningham Thomas Rae, if this helps.
Margaret
-
Duplicate thread https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=840552.0
-
I have just finished searching all church registers on ScotlandsPeople site for a baptism/birth for William Rae selecting all parishes and counties and using all search options. I also searched the statutory register of births. I found birth/baptisms for all six of William's siblings registered 1849 - 1867, all in Kirkcudbright, however William wasn't there :(. I had the same result using the FamilySearch site.
I'm not sure where to go from here. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Margaret
-
If you have thoroughly searched Scotland's People and found nothing, the overwhelming likelihood is that the record of William's baptism, if it ever existed, has not survived.
If it's not on Scotland's People then, realistically, it is not going to be on FamilySearch (or on any of the commercial web sites) because they only have indexes to the originals, all of which are on Scotland's People.
You do, from time to time, find so-called 'records' on, for example, FamilySearch, which are just guesses based on a different record and various assumptions, for example they might have found a marriage, and they invent a birth 25 years earlier for the groom and 21 years earlier for the bride.
There is an outside chance that there might be a stray register that escaped in 1855 when all the Church of Scotland registers were collected by the Registrar General. Or that there might be a surviving register of a dissenting church that has not been digitised because permission to do has not not been forthcoming from the congregation that owns it. Or there might be a register of the Episcopal Church lurking somewhere in a kirk or in an archive somewhere. But it's very unlikely, and it is going to be extremely difficult to find and check even the very small number of such registers that do exist.
So I think that you may have to accept that William is one of the large numbers of people (some say as many as 30% around 1800) whose baptism is not there to be found.
-
I notice for the baptism of William’s sister, Margaret - Kirkcudbright 00/00/1852, there is a note on the index in Scotlands People. It says “year assumed”
From that, I understand that there is some problem with the original document. Maybe it is too damaged to read, or there are pages missing, that makes SP have to guess the date. Since We would expect William to be around the 1852-53 date, it might be that his record has succumbed to whatever the problem is.
I suppose you could try asking SP for more information about their comment on Margaret’s record?
-
You could just look at the original and see for yourself what the problem is, of course.
-
Thank you Forfarian for your comprehensive reply which has been most helpful. I agree, it appears highly unlikely that the birth or baptism record will be found. Never mind. :(
Neale1961, you may be onto something here thanks for pointing this out - I have sent SP a message however, I may have to eventually view the original as Forfarian suggests.
Margaret.
-
I think the assumption made by SP that Margaret’s baptism was 1852, is not correct.
According to census data, William was born about 1852, and Margaret came after him, about 1854.
That makes me wonder if (rather than damage), there are pages missing from the original register, so it makes the dates impossible to confirm.
But by checking the other names on the same page as Margaret against the census, one should be able to come up with a firm year.
-
I think the assumption made by SP that Margaret’s baptism was 1852, is not correct.
According to census data, William was born about 1852, and Margaret came after him, about 1854.
That makes me wonder if (rather than damage), there are pages missing from the original register, so it makes the dates impossible to confirm.
But by checking the other names on the same page as Margaret against the census, one should be able to come up with a firm year.
I agree, I checked my Isle of Man research which seems to bear this out also. I'll post the results for both William and Margaret in separate posts next.
Margaret :D
-
I've been trying to narrow down William Rae's birth year using all the available information thus far:
From ManxBMD death index William died 1932 Arbory aged 81 years. I have a copies of an Isle of Man newspaper obituary and another relating to his Estate confirming that he died 1 Dec 1932 and the funeral took place on Sunday 4 December 1932 at Rushen IOM Churchyard.
Census
1861 Scotland – 7 April - age 9 born Kirkcudbright Scotland
1871 Isle of Man – 2 April - age 19 Single no birthplace recorded
1881 Isle of Man – 3 April - age 29 Married born Kirkcudbright Scotland
1891 Isle of Man – 5 April - age 38 Married born Scotland
1901 Isle of Man – 31 March - age 50 Widower born Scotland
1911 Isle of Man – 2 April - age 60 Widower born Kirkcudbright Scotland
1901 and 1911 cenuses William was an Inn Keeper of Shore Hotel Port St Mary, Isle of Man and Sea Mount Port St Mary.
Margaret
-
....William's wife, Isabella nee Cannell died in 1892 leaving William with 6 children ranging in age from 11 months - 11 years. On 1901 Isle of Man census Margaret was living with William and the children. She is enumerated as his sister 48 years Housekeeper born Scotland. She was still with them in 1911- Margrett Rae Sister 58 Single Housekeeper born Kirkcudbright Scotland.
From ManxBMD death index Margaret died in Rushen Isle of Man in 1927 aged 73 years. From newspaper obituary, Miss Margaret Rae, sister of Mr Rae of Sea Mount Port St Mary died Thurs 3rd Feb 1927 for interment Sun 6 Feb 1927 at Rushen Churchyard.
As William didn't die until 1932, he may well have been the informant on her death certificate which may hopefully include Cunningham Rae and Grace Logan as their parents, therefore, I will need to order both death certificates for William and Margaret - finances permitting.
It would be interesting to see where Margaret was living between 1871 - 1891 incl.
Margaret :D
-
.....I'll see what else I can find.
Margaret
-
1881 Census has a Margaret Rae (27) born 1854 Kirkenlight possibly Kirkcudbright, living with a Fildes family as a servant/cook at Lytham, Lancashire. There is also Margaret Ray (17) servant, 1871 Census at Ditton, Lancashire but birth place is only given as Scotland.
hmcc.
-
Thank you hmcc for looking for Margaret - these look promising - she may well have ventured to Lancs in search of work.
I forgot to mention that I don't have the Scotland 1871 census for her parents Cunningham Rae b.1808 Rerrick, Kirkcudbrightshire and Grace b. abt 1826 Kirkinner, Wigtown. She was not with them in 1881 and 1891 censuses.
Thanks again
Margaret
-
Margaret Rae is still with parents in 1871 Census, you can disregard the 1871 census for Lancashire in my last post.
Cunningham (58), Grace (48), Margaret (17), Ann (14), James (11),Jane (6) and Agnes (3) Kirkcudbright on SP.
hmcc.
-
Possible for Margaret Rae in 1891 is as a cook domestic at Clunes House, Kirkhill, Invernesshire . This could follow on from the 1881 census entry found by hmcc as there is a death for Thomas Fildes in 1887 and so Margaret might have needed to seek a new position. ( Also worth noting that Thomas Fildes widow, Jessie, who rapidly remarried, seems to have been born in Kirkcudbrightshire).
William
-
Margaret Rae is still with parents in 1871 Census, you can disregard the 1871 census for Lancashire in my last post.
Cunningham (58), Grace (48), Margaret (17), Ann (14), James (11),Jane (6) and Agnes (3) Kirkcudbright on SP.
hmcc.
Thank you hmcc - I'm so sorry for my omission about the 1871 census. I really appreciate you looking again and finding her still with her family in Kirkcudbright.
Margaret
-
Possible for Margaret Rae in 1891 is as a cook domestic at Clunes House, Kirkhill, Invernesshire . This could follow on from the 1881 census entry found by hmcc as there is a death for Thomas Fildes in 1887 and so Margaret might have needed to seek a new position. ( Also worth noting that Thomas Fildes widow, Jessie, who rapidly remarried, seems to have been born in Kirkcudbrightshire).
William
Thank you William - this could indeed be she in 1891 working at Kirkhill, Inverness, before travelling to the Isle of Man to help brother William with the children and the Inn some time between 1892 - 1901. Also, I appreciate the extra info re Thomas Fildes death and his widow, Jessie's remarriage. Even though I can't find anyone with forename Jessie in our immediate Kirkcudbright family, I will certainly keep this in mind for future reference.
Margaret
-
Even though I can't find anyone with forename Jessie in our immediate Kirkcudbright family.
Are you aware that the names Janet and Jessie are used interchangeably in Scotland? Do you have any missing Janets?
-
Even though I can't find anyone with forename Jessie in our immediate Kirkcudbright family.
Are you aware that the names Janet and Jessie are used interchangeably in Scotland? Do you have any missing Janets?
....No, I wasn't aware of that....once again thank you Forfarian for sharing your knowlege.
Margaret
-
Hi ..following the thread on cunningham rae.
I can confirm that he is buried in the galtway ( gatta) kirkyard.
Headstone 24 (5 rows from back)
Reads
ERECTED IN MEMORY OF GRACE LOGAN WIFE OF CUNNINGHAM RAE. WHO DIED AT CROFTHEAD ON 29TH NOVEMBER 1895 AGED 60 YEARS OLD. ALSO CUNNINGHAM RAE WHO DIED AT CROFTHEAD 29TH DECEMBER 1903 AGED 98 YEARS.
Regards Catherine
-
Thank you Catherine - just out of interest, are you related to Cunningham Rae?
-
Hi ..my line is from cunningham stevenson..my gt gt granny was a stevenson
-
Yes cunningham rae is my relation
-
Hi Catherine,
My husband's line is Cunningham Rae and Grace Logan, their son William Rae b. c1851 Kirkcudbrightshire d. 1932 Rushen, Isle of Man and Isabella Cannell b. 1850 Arbory, Isle of Man d. 1892 Rushen, IOM.
Margaret
-
Hi ..im from euphemia rae ( cunninghams sister ) married John stevenson.
I stay in kirkcudbright.