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Greetings from South Africa!
I would be eternally grateful for birth or marriage info for George Willmore(born btw.1718-1723). He had a son, John (1744), but his wife's detail is contradictory in Anc.co.uk. Anything else on that lineage would be much appreciated.
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Welcome to Rootschat, and greetings from France
Have you checked the IGI at www.familysearch.org ? Virtually all Beds baptisma and marriages pre 1812 have been extracted from the parish registers. But rely only on those entries which say Extracted from... Those which say Record submitted by a member... are not to be trusted
Or you can access the extracted items via http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountryEngland.htm#PageTitle thus cutting out all the member submissions. Using this I can't see that the mother of John or his siblings was named in any of their baptisms. The IGI has a marriage of George Wilmore in 1742 in Higham Gobian, 3 miles from Flitton, which might be him (but these entries are member submissions, so need to be checked - I did say "virtually all!). You need someone with access to Higham Gobian transcript to see if it says that George was of the parish of Flitton
David
Edit - fortunately John and I didn't disagree!
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Hello Flickw & welcome to RootsChat
The majority of Bedfordshire baptisms & marriages prior to 1812 are available on the IGI on the FamilySearch website.
George Wilmore was christened Flitton with Silsoe on 22 Feb 1719, parents John Wilmore & Elizabeth
His son John, most likely, was christened 09 Jun 1745 Flitton with Silsoe, but just states father as George Wilmore. No mother is stated. There is also a George Wilmore with just father George christened at Flitton with Silsoe on 23 Jun 1743
There are 4 member submissions of a marriage of George Wilmore to Hannah Smith on 29 Aug 1742 at Higham Gobion, which is not too far away from Flitton; who may be John & George junior's parents; but you need to verify this from the parish records.
Regards
John
PS David got in first but I had already typed it up so you've got it twice....
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Thanks guys. I reached similar conclusions viz a viz the Higham marriage. Sounds feasible, but without documentation I am hesitant to add to my tree. Wish I could investigate in person . Ho -hum - maybe one day! BTW, I also checked the Friends records on Familysearch, since later generations of Willmores were practising Quakers - some attending Croyden School.
Regards
Flick
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Wish I could investigate in person
No need to. Higham Gobian parish register and bishops transcript have been filmed by the LDS so are available to order and view at your nearest LDS Family History Centre. Both look to have large gaps, but the BT does cover 1742
David
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Hi Flick; The Higham Gobian marriage entry exists but just has date & names - no additional info, 29 Aug 1742 of George Wilmore to Hannah Smyth
The Flitton baptisms of John & George just say son of George Wilmore and his wife. There are many others baptised just saying son/daughter of Xxxxx and his wife. There is also a Sarah baptised on 7 Jan 1748 to George W & wife; & she was buried 10 Feb 1748, again just daughter of George W.
Searching further through the Flitton burials came across Hannah Wilmar age 92 on 15 Mar 1803, making her born 1711 - could she be the wife of George baptised 1719 ?
regards John
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There is a Hannah Smyth baptised in Elstow December 17 1710. Which would make her 92 in March 1803.
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There is a Hannah Smyth baptised in Elstow December 17 1710. Which would make her 92 in March 1803.
BUT... as per Elstow PR transcript... that baptism is of Hannah Smyth, adult !
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GEO Wilmer, Buried 20 May 1805, St John the Baptist, Flitton
Age 94, Pauper
( c 1711)
Obviously this is only as good as the informants knowledge of how old he was.
+ WM Wilmore buried 26 Nov 1747, Son of Geo*
I can see Baptisms for Geo 1743/Jn 1745/Sarah 1748/9
Cant find William.
All on FreeREG.
I also wondered about the 22 Feb 1717/18 Baptism to JN/ELIZ as earlier Children with Father John (Jn) have Mother as ALICE.
Thos 1710
Mary 1712
Jn 1713
Jn 1715
Wm 1716
All Flitton
Jn WILMORE married Alice GEE 08 Mar 1708/9 Flitton
Trish :)
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There is a George Wilmore christened 22 Feb 1719 in Flitton w Silsoe. Parents listed as John Wilmore and Elizabeth. Could be the same George who died at "age 94" in 1805.
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Yes I agree willmoreh about that Georges Baptism but it was 22 Feb 1718/9 to JN/ELIZ
I was trying to point out that Eliz is likely Alice and has been transcribed incorrectly.
Trish :)
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@Flickw
Greetings from the US!
In a quest to continue the family history research my father began many years ago, I happened upon your post. From afar, it appears that maybe you are a descendent of Gregory Willmore who married Jane Torr and is the son of Benjamin Willmore (Gregory and Jane ended up in South Africa). If this is the case, we are from the same line of Willmores! If not, at the very least, you might have some additional information beyond what I have. My father's research ends at Benjamin's father John Willmore. From what I can gather from this forum you started, it seems like your information goes farther back. I would love to discuss this with you if you have some time.
Sincerely,
Edwin Willmore
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Hi Edwin,
How interesting! My husband is a descendant of Gregory & Jane via Charles Arthur. Could you give me your lineage from Benjamin? Am so curious. If you wouldn't mind giving me an e-mail address I'll send you the family pages as I have them. HOWEVER please use these only as a starting point for your research. I have so often taken info from well-meaning folk, only to find that their research has been skewed at some point. Would hate you to take my info as 'gospel' when it could as easily be incorrect.
Rgds
Flick
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Welcome to Rootschat Edwin.
If you make 2 more posts on this query the PM system activates and you can exchange email addresses with Flick.
Trish :)
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Thanks Trish - clearly missed that part of the small print!!
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Your welcome :)
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Thank you Trish and Flick! The rest of my family here in the US will be so excited! I’ll make another post so we can exchange info more easily.
Edwin
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It blows my mind to think of all the history and the things our ancestors did and here we are, meeting distant family from around the world! I’m very excited to see where this takes me!
Edwin
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Hi again Edwin,
Can you go back in your lineage for me - which of Gregory and Jane's children is your forefather?
Rgds
Flick
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My line actually goes through Gregory's brother Howson, so our common link is Benjamin. From Howson it goes through his son Howson Edward - Frank Adain - Edwin Franklin - Howson Edward (my father) - Me.
Hope that helps!
Edwin