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Research in Other Countries => Other Countries => Topic started by: Falleniceangel on Tuesday 17 August 10 13:21 BST (UK)
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Can anyone help me find anything! I've looked on Fibis, census records, family search etc etc and can find so little about the India(n) side of the family, even my Grandmother doesn't appear to exist!
What I know so far is...
Alick Ennis married (a woman) in India, we think she is a native Indian lady. In 1888 they had a daughter May Lena Ennis. Jan 14th 1914 saw her married to Alfred H Graham (who I'm not having problems with) and in the March of 1914/15 they had their only child Ellen Barbara Graham. On 15 sept 1937 in Cawnpore, India she married Thomas Santus. They had a daughter Francis around 1938, and in 1939 they moved to England. There aren't many problems once they get to the Uk.
We know that the family lived in Cawnpore and Allahabad, and my Grandmother (ellen) went to school in Shimla at the Lawrence school. The cousins of the family were the Connolly's who were gentlemans tailors in Allahabad/Cawnpore
I welcome any help, hints, tips etc as I'm starting to go a bit crackers :P
Thanks all
PS: I'm indrawignall1 on ancestry.com, just in case that comes up in searches
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Might May Lena Ennis have been baptised Mary Helena or Mary Helina Ennis?
There was a girl of that name born 5 October 1888 in Nawodik Bengal to Charles Alexander ( Alick????) and Agnes Ennis
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#birthPlaceId=1927063&surname=ennis&searchType=close&p=recordResults&givenName=Mary%20helina&birthPlaceLoc1=India
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According to this online tree, Charles Alexander Ennis was married to Dympna Agnes Connolly
http://links2dent.woelmuis.nl/trees/hatton_1-3.htm
More seekers of this family:
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/INDIA/1998-06/0897746378
http://listsearches.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/INDIA/2007-10/1191273483
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I have seen this one, and I know that Agnes' surname is Dimpha (sp?) so it could be, but I'm almost sure that she was May Lena, it's what she is recorded as on the wedding information.
I have a feeling that there is two of them with a similar name knocking about just to annoy me :p
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ShaunJ: it could be, but Mum was almost sure that May had no siblings, nobody was ever mentioned and my mum spent alot of time with May when she was growing up.
The addition of the name Connolly however does hint that she could be wrong, but the placename is one that has never been mentioned before, and India was spoken about a lot in the family. I shall have a look into this and see if I can follow it along to a name I recognise though.
Thanks :D
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My mum was baptised Mary but has always been known as May. And it's a short step from Helina to Lena.
Another mention of Dympna Agnes Connolly (her birth is in the IGI as Connelly)
http://newsfeed.rootsweb.com/th/read/INDIA/2008-04/1207119264
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Like I said I will look into it, but I don't think it's right. I don't think she had siblings, it's the wrong name and the wrong part of India.
I have found these names before and they don't seem to fit. It's all driving me a bit mental :( I can't even find my nan and I KNOW her details. I think they don't exist and I'm just a figment of my own imagination :P
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Nawodik seems to be a place name known only to LDS transcribers
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Google 'handily' suggested somewhere in Poland *sigh* but I think it maybe one of the many places that got renamed, I also found Nadia in West bengal, which it could be.
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Nawada is another possibility
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oooh could be, is closer to Allahabad and Kanpur too, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... I may ring my Aunt, see if she can remember anything.
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There were three Ennis baptisms at "Nawodik" on the same day - Boxing Day, 26 December 1888: Alice Irene, Thomas Frederick and Mary Helina.
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I'm hoping someone will pick up on this thread, I know it was written seven years ago!
Somewhere I have a photo of an Auntie May with her daughter Ellen. I think it might have been taken aboard a ship. As far as I know May was the sister of my great grandma 'Nellie Margaret' Davis, nee Ennis, or as she was baptised, Margaret Ellen. She was the daughter of Charles Alexander Ennis, and Agnes Dymphna Connelly. As far as I'm aware the Ennis family were based in India from quite early on in the 1800's.
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Hello!
Ellen was my grandmother and I've found out loads more since my original post. I have photos of loads of the family, info on the ship they came over on and loads of stories of India. I'll DM you my email address.....cuz! :P
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Wow! Hello Cuz! How do I find your email address? I'm new to this site, just joined today.
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DMR1965: Email addresses aren't allowed to be posted.
If you make one more post (to bring the total to 3) then you and Falleniceangel can exchange Personal Messages.
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Ha ha, thank you! Still trying to find my way round. I'm technologically challenged I'm afraid!
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Hi DMR
Welcome to Rootschat ;D
Glad to see you're reconnected with your family!
You're making good progress here with your posts but if you need more help try our 'help' pages
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and the section on personal messages
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Dawn
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Hi Falleniceangel,
I just wanted to add that the marriage for May Lena Ennis on 14 January 1914 has her age as 24, so she would have been born ca. 1889, and she was living in Allahabad, which is a place you mentioned. Also, her father is given as Alick Ennis. She married Alfred Harry Graham.
The birth of Mary Helena Ennis gives her as the daughter of Charles Alexander and Agnes Ennis, so presumably that is not her.
If this is of interest, I can give you the rest.
Amazing that you found your cousin on here!
Alan
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Hi Alan. May Lena is the daughter of Charles Alexander and Agnes Ennis. One of her sisters was my great grandma Margaret Ellen, who was known as Nellie Margaret, so I guess it's possible May's given name was Mary Helena.
Falleniceangel seemed very excited to find that we were cousins but I haven't heard from her since we first made contact last year.
Donna
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Hi Donna,
I just read through the whole set of posts again, but I'm having difficulty getting a handle on it all as I haven't looked at this for a while.
As regards Falleniceangel, I can only say that I've had several experiences where I thought people didn't want to answer me, but it turned out that they were just too busy or didn't get the message or something. It certainly sounds like she wanted to contact you.
I would try PM'ing her again, giving her your email address and asking for hers. If you already gave her your email address, don't forget to check your spam folder, though if she sent you a message some time ago and it ended up in your spam folder, it might not be there any more.
Wishing you the best of luck.
Alan
P.S. I might perhaps add to this that it appears that the records from British India are fairly incomplete, as far as I can gather. I finally made it to the British Library last year to do some research on someone's family. I didn't find what I was looking for there, but actually looking at how the records were arranged and stored there enabled me to make a breakthrough afterwards on the Internet. The surname I was looking for was a double barrelled one, "Austen Lewis", but I found a bunch of records, some with the surname of Lewis with Austen or Austin as a first name. I am very far from being an expert in these records, but I can certainly understand Falleniceangel's initial post, where she says she can't find the Indian records. They may simply not be there or they may be there in some variant of the expected name perhaps.