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Title: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: jayfish on Sunday 19 September 10 19:47 BST (UK)
Thomas Sweeney and Mary Jane Sheerin  married in Burt  Co. Donegal on
 20 Dec 1861 though I`ve no idea what denomination they were or which of the many parishes they came from..

How do I go about getting their marriage certificate and what  information will  it  provide ?

Jay
Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 19 September 10 20:09 BST (UK)
Unfortunately you will probably need to establish the family religion as full civil registration started in 1864, so if the family were Catholic there will be no marriage cert. Non-Catholic marriages were registered from 1845, so if for example the family were Church of Ireland or married in a registry office then the marriage would be included in the civil index. You can search this index on familysearch, and use the details to order a marriage cert from the GRO - see : 

 Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
 Details included on a Marriage Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html)

For earlier marriages (e.g. Catholic before 1864, or Church of Ireland before 1845), you would need to know where the family lived - i.e. town, townland or parish.


Shane
Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: jayfish on Sunday 19 September 10 21:00 BST (UK)
Thanks Shanew,

Oh dear - I`m not holding out much hope!
They left  Ireland and moved to Glasgow not long after their marriage and I know nothing else about them before that.

Jay

 
Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 19 September 10 21:07 BST (UK)
Catholic records for the parish of Burt should include an 1861 marriage - but dont go back very much further.  See Burt RC Parish, Co. Donegal (http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/rcparishmaps/index.cfm?fuseaction=showidrecords&CityCounty=Donegal&parish=Burt&churchid=351) (Irish Times Family History) for details of which records exist for the parish


Shane
Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: Pastmagic on Sunday 19 September 10 21:09 BST (UK)
Some Burt records on this site.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/Burtproj.htm

You could post what you have there as it gets a lot of traffic.
Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: jayfish on Sunday 19 September 10 22:07 BST (UK)
Thanks again Shane,

It must be my age - Irish research has me baffled !

Jay



Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: jayfish on Sunday 19 September 10 22:10 BST (UK)
Thanks Past Magic,

I`ll do as you suggest and keep all my fingers crossed !!


Jay
Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: derrylass on Sunday 19 September 10 22:31 BST (UK)
If they moved to Glasgow and died in Scotland, their death certs should have names of parents - information which may not be on church records.
Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: Pastmagic on Sunday 19 September 10 23:07 BST (UK)

The following are in Griffith's valuation for Sheerin for info on the valuation see:

www.nli.ie/en/griffiths-valuation.aspx

Sheerin         Anne              Mulleny

Sheerin         James             Mulleny                   
Sheerin         John              Mulleny                   
Sheerin         Peter             Mulleny                 
Sheerin         Richard           Bohullion, Lower       

The likelehood is that they were married in her parish, so these people could be related. Have you been to Burt? 
Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: Pastmagic on Sunday 19 September 10 23:32 BST (UK)
Just noticed we started with:

Thomas Sweeney and Mary Jane Sheerin  married in Burt  Co. Donegal on
20 Dec 1861 though I`ve no idea what denomination they were or which of the many parishes they came from..

so is this from a family bible?

It is most likely, but not definite, they were R.C with those two names. There were still Sheerins in Burt in 1901 in the Census. PRONI hold some Burt RC records. I know these Donegal searches are complicated, but persistence does pay. If you do get the death certs and they have the parents names, that will make it a lot easier, as there may be census substitutes to check those names against,
Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: rathmore on Wednesday 22 September 10 11:32 BST (UK)
found Mary Jane Sweeney on census 1901 age 58 Widow two daughters.  Ballynarally, Breda, Down
Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 22 September 10 12:12 BST (UK)
found Mary Jane Sweeney on census 1901 age 58 Widow two daughters.  Ballynarally, Breda, Down
This is the link for the 1901 census entry-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Breda/Ballynarally/1238486
However, all 3 women are born in Co. Down not Donegal so I don't think this could be the correct family.

The I.G.I. (www.familysearch.org) lists a child of a Thomas Sweeney and Mary Jane Sherran- Edward Sweeney born 30 July1871 Maryhill, Lanark, Scotland.
Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: rathmore on Friday 24 September 10 11:21 BST (UK)
found by chance Mary Sweeney 67, Widow, Children Catherine 35, James 32, Andrew 30, Elizebeth 27,
16 Speenoge, Burt, Donegal on the 1901 census also mention on the 1911 census.
Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: MauriceSheerin on Tuesday 14 March 17 13:35 GMT (UK)
Roots Ireland.ie have a marriage of a sweeney to a Mary Jane Sheerin on 20th December 1861 in Fahan which is right beside Burt--both are just south of Buncrana on the west side of the Inishowen Pennisula. Rootsireland is a subscription website with typed copies of Church Records. I ve come across errors previously on it and I ve seen errors on original Church records. Root Ireland give the grooms Christain name as John which is also the brides father's name. The grooms father's name is not on this transcript. It is Catholic wedding. Her address is 'Millainy' which is likely a mispelling  of Mullaney and his Fahan. Likely townlands in the same Parish.   

Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: MauriceSheerin on Tuesday 14 March 17 13:53 GMT (UK)
Fahan RC Parish includes Burt and Inch.  Also google werelate.org Sheerin. This was set up by the Doherty inishowen project but quite a few Sheerin's on it. I tried without success contacting the authors and someone ales advised that it was not all accurate. However interesting in the amount of Sheerin,s listed.
Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 15 March 17 09:00 GMT (UK)
Roots Ireland.ie have a marriage of a sweeney to a Mary Jane Sheerin on 20th December 1861 in Fahan which is right beside Burt--both are just south of Buncrana on the west side of the Inishowen Pennisula. Rootsireland is a subscription website with typed copies of Church Records. I ve come across errors previously on it and I ve seen errors on original Church records. Root Ireland give the grooms Christain name as John which is also the brides father's name. The grooms father's name is not on this transcript. It is Catholic wedding. Her address is 'Millainy' which is likely a mispelling  of Mullaney and his Fahan. Likely townlands in the same Parish. 

You can see the actual register online (free) rather than relying on a transcription and trying to second guess what's there.
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633002#page/31/mode/1up
Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: Johnsderry on Tuesday 09 January 18 22:12 GMT (UK)
I have a john sheerin born circa 1827 in burt - died 1887 in Derry city.

He married Mary Ferry - from Fahan - died Mary Sheerin 1914 in Derry City.

Has to be relatives to your Mary Jane Sheerin.
Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: Johnsderry on Monday 22 January 18 17:55 GMT (UK)
UPDATE:

Mary Sheerin (Ferry) living in 12 Mulleny Burt in 1901 - Widow 67.

Moved back to derry - living in 11 anne street in 1911 - Widow 76.

All of these mulleny Sheerins must be connected. Anybody???
Title: Re: Sweeney / Sheerin marriage in Burt.
Post by: hallmark on Monday 22 January 18 19:24 GMT (UK)
UPDATE:

Mary Sheerin (Ferry) living in 12 Mulleny Burt in 1901 - Widow 67.

Moved back to derry - living in 11 anne street in 1911 - Widow 76.

All of these mulleny Sheerins must be connected. Anybody???

I presume there are links to what you are asking about.