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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: jayfish on Sunday 19 September 10 19:47 BST (UK)
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Thomas Sweeney and Mary Jane Sheerin married in Burt Co. Donegal on
20 Dec 1861 though I`ve no idea what denomination they were or which of the many parishes they came from..
How do I go about getting their marriage certificate and what information will it provide ?
Jay
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Unfortunately you will probably need to establish the family religion as full civil registration started in 1864, so if the family were Catholic there will be no marriage cert. Non-Catholic marriages were registered from 1845, so if for example the family were Church of Ireland or married in a registry office then the marriage would be included in the civil index. You can search this index on familysearch, and use the details to order a marriage cert from the GRO - see :
Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
Details included on a Marriage Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html)
For earlier marriages (e.g. Catholic before 1864, or Church of Ireland before 1845), you would need to know where the family lived - i.e. town, townland or parish.
Shane
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Thanks Shanew,
Oh dear - I`m not holding out much hope!
They left Ireland and moved to Glasgow not long after their marriage and I know nothing else about them before that.
Jay
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Catholic records for the parish of Burt should include an 1861 marriage - but dont go back very much further. See Burt RC Parish, Co. Donegal (http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/rcparishmaps/index.cfm?fuseaction=showidrecords&CityCounty=Donegal&parish=Burt&churchid=351) (Irish Times Family History) for details of which records exist for the parish
Shane
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Some Burt records on this site.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/Burtproj.htm
You could post what you have there as it gets a lot of traffic.
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Thanks again Shane,
It must be my age - Irish research has me baffled !
Jay
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Thanks Past Magic,
I`ll do as you suggest and keep all my fingers crossed !!
Jay
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If they moved to Glasgow and died in Scotland, their death certs should have names of parents - information which may not be on church records.
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The following are in Griffith's valuation for Sheerin for info on the valuation see:
www.nli.ie/en/griffiths-valuation.aspx
Sheerin Anne Mulleny
Sheerin James Mulleny
Sheerin John Mulleny
Sheerin Peter Mulleny
Sheerin Richard Bohullion, Lower
The likelehood is that they were married in her parish, so these people could be related. Have you been to Burt?
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Just noticed we started with:
Thomas Sweeney and Mary Jane Sheerin married in Burt Co. Donegal on
20 Dec 1861 though I`ve no idea what denomination they were or which of the many parishes they came from..
so is this from a family bible?
It is most likely, but not definite, they were R.C with those two names. There were still Sheerins in Burt in 1901 in the Census. PRONI hold some Burt RC records. I know these Donegal searches are complicated, but persistence does pay. If you do get the death certs and they have the parents names, that will make it a lot easier, as there may be census substitutes to check those names against,
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found Mary Jane Sweeney on census 1901 age 58 Widow two daughters. Ballynarally, Breda, Down
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found Mary Jane Sweeney on census 1901 age 58 Widow two daughters. Ballynarally, Breda, Down
This is the link for the 1901 census entry-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Breda/Ballynarally/1238486
However, all 3 women are born in Co. Down not Donegal so I don't think this could be the correct family.
The I.G.I. (www.familysearch.org) lists a child of a Thomas Sweeney and Mary Jane Sherran- Edward Sweeney born 30 July1871 Maryhill, Lanark, Scotland.
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found by chance Mary Sweeney 67, Widow, Children Catherine 35, James 32, Andrew 30, Elizebeth 27,
16 Speenoge, Burt, Donegal on the 1901 census also mention on the 1911 census.
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Roots Ireland.ie have a marriage of a sweeney to a Mary Jane Sheerin on 20th December 1861 in Fahan which is right beside Burt--both are just south of Buncrana on the west side of the Inishowen Pennisula. Rootsireland is a subscription website with typed copies of Church Records. I ve come across errors previously on it and I ve seen errors on original Church records. Root Ireland give the grooms Christain name as John which is also the brides father's name. The grooms father's name is not on this transcript. It is Catholic wedding. Her address is 'Millainy' which is likely a mispelling of Mullaney and his Fahan. Likely townlands in the same Parish.
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Fahan RC Parish includes Burt and Inch. Also google werelate.org Sheerin. This was set up by the Doherty inishowen project but quite a few Sheerin's on it. I tried without success contacting the authors and someone ales advised that it was not all accurate. However interesting in the amount of Sheerin,s listed.
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Roots Ireland.ie have a marriage of a sweeney to a Mary Jane Sheerin on 20th December 1861 in Fahan which is right beside Burt--both are just south of Buncrana on the west side of the Inishowen Pennisula. Rootsireland is a subscription website with typed copies of Church Records. I ve come across errors previously on it and I ve seen errors on original Church records. Root Ireland give the grooms Christain name as John which is also the brides father's name. The grooms father's name is not on this transcript. It is Catholic wedding. Her address is 'Millainy' which is likely a mispelling of Mullaney and his Fahan. Likely townlands in the same Parish.
You can see the actual register online (free) rather than relying on a transcription and trying to second guess what's there.
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633002#page/31/mode/1up
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I have a john sheerin born circa 1827 in burt - died 1887 in Derry city.
He married Mary Ferry - from Fahan - died Mary Sheerin 1914 in Derry City.
Has to be relatives to your Mary Jane Sheerin.
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UPDATE:
Mary Sheerin (Ferry) living in 12 Mulleny Burt in 1901 - Widow 67.
Moved back to derry - living in 11 anne street in 1911 - Widow 76.
All of these mulleny Sheerins must be connected. Anybody???
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UPDATE:
Mary Sheerin (Ferry) living in 12 Mulleny Burt in 1901 - Widow 67.
Moved back to derry - living in 11 anne street in 1911 - Widow 76.
All of these mulleny Sheerins must be connected. Anybody???
I presume there are links to what you are asking about.